Art Bell

[Faustina]

It's interesting to go back and listen to excerpts after learning of her breakdown before open lines, begging bateman to take over the show.

During Heather's dreadful David Bowie tribute Monday night, after playing Space Oddity:

HW: I appreciate everybody takin' a moment to listen to that great, groundbreaking song that David Bowie brought us and, uh, who's gonna fill his shoes, right? That's a question I've been hearin' a lot lately and, uh, [pause] I can relate because you know what? I'm here filling some pretty big shoes right now and there's a question of, uh, whether or not it's appropriate to have a female in this position.

The woes of anti-feminism is such a cop-out in this case. What's more believable, (redacted), that you're being attacked because you're a woman or because you took the hot seat without a lick of radio experience and it's apparent to everyone? No one in their right mind would hitch their wagon to Keith's network or host MITD, which is damaged goods at this point, yet you're surprised when bateman backed out? The entire situation is toxic and there's no one to blame except Art and his "lean, mean team."

It could well be that the lean mean team is suggesting listeners prefer a male voice for night-time talk radio, as an easier way (I guess? it's more diplomatic?) for telling Heather they feel the show needs someone with more experience.  I brought up the example that there has been no truly successful woman as a late night talk radio show in some time, which is true.  LJN's wife was brought up, and Rollye James, as successful women late night talk show hosts, but I question how really successful they were.  RJ's radio show is only just a once a week podcast now, so what brief success on radio she may have had has faded.  Staying power counts, too, in my book.  Clyde Lewis, for example has been on radio for over 20 years, most of that time (and still) on terrestrial radio and syndicated.  Perhaps LJN's wife was really good:  I never heard her.

[Bounder]

a very young girl from an entirely different reality who was from one of the biggest cities in the Philippines who's now in her 30s with a kid living in the middle of nowhere desert in a different country with a 70-something year old man who's all wrapped up on a lady he met on a forum who's obsessed with him and talking about how someone is trying to kill him when he does his radio show. I'm sure everything is swell.

Art was born in 1945, making him not even a "Baby Boomer."  He's from the generation before â€" the so-called "Silent Generation," or "Lucky Few."

His wife is a Millennial.

Four generations in between.

I can't imagine it.  41 when your spouse is born.  51 when they turn 10.

That's all considered apart from the geographic-cultural gap, which is just as wide.  The Philippine islands are only region in the world where people get crucified . . . by request.

Maybe that explains Art's evident appetite for self-flagellation.

[Value Of Pi]

After re-reading the latest brouhaha and ruminating on it I have reached a conclusion:  I am not sure I have enough issues to continue posting here, especially in this thread.  I think I'd feel safer living in the village from Shirley Jackson's The Lottery than amongst many of you regardless of which side you are on.  I lived through junior high school once,  I'll not volunteer for another stint.  I know I haven't been here long but the current environment is not healthy for anyone.  This is coming from someone that scored zero on the feeling portion of a Myers-Brigs test.  I may still participate in some other threads but I will not participate in the current climate of cannibalism.

Art's apparent approach to life must be catching. Stick out an unpleasant situation until it makes you want to leave immediately, then suddenly leave. Don't figure out and implement some kind of healthy middle ground. And do rage, rage against the night.

[stenjay]

They finally posted a guest for MITD tonight.  Looks like Heather hasn't hit terminal burn out yet, as some suspected.

[3OctaveFart]

It is surprising how someone with a military pedigree can consistently show so little self-discipline.

[boxman]

They finally posted a guest for MITD tonight.  Looks like Heather hasn't hit terminal burn out yet, as some suspected.

Either I think she is hanging in there in the hope they find a new guest or she will announce that she will be quitting.

[Value Of Pi]

I dunno.  Women should be appreciated.  I particularly like when a woman wears high heels, nylons (not pantyhose) a short skirt that shows off her thighs, push up bra (because she's a woman after all) a well fitted blouse....

Because she IS woman and I want to hear her roar as she throws back her head.

About the job.  Was there anybody else to take over?  Really?  I dunno.  But how many professional hosts other than backshooting Jimmy Chooch would drop their own show to host, indefinitely, someone else's show?  Bateman?  He has his own thing.  Cover on occasion?  I'm guessing he could if he wanted to.  Could he do it on a short notice emergency basis?  I think I've heard other hosts step in short notice to C2C.  *shrug*

But yeah, 'Because I'm a woman' does mean something to me.  Maybe not the same thing to you.

Remove the sex and then try rethinking this.

[Taco Bell]

Either I think she is hanging in there in the hope they find a new guest or she will announce that she will be quitting.

Or Art will be in the drivers seat and when gabbers are done shitting themselves they'll find something else to endlessly bitch about.

[TigerLily]

Or Art will be in the drivers seat and when gabbers are done shitting themselves they'll find something else to endlessly bitch about.

+1 

[coaster]

Either I think she is hanging in there in the hope they find a new guest or she will announce that she will be quitting.

Shes probably staying until they replace her, because her loyalty to Art. Can't go upsetting Mr. Bell now, what would he think of her then?

[Bounder]

I wonder how many people still feel that she should post her full name, address, phone number and previous employers to make it easier for people to tear her apart and make it impossible to get away?

She already has.

[Value Of Pi]

Are you hoping that if you keep peppering the forum with posts like these then you will eventually get an appreciative message in your inbox, you lovesick puppy? I would take the 'man' to take the job to mean simply someone who had the background and ability to take it on. A man is needed, not a boy. People want a good show, if they don't get one they are entitled to say so. You don't get a prize for merely showing up. Can you get more fucking hysterical? She is not stepping into an 'exploding volcano'. For fuck's sake, innumerable people take genuine risks every day in the line of work, doing a radio show does not get anywhere near to that.

You really need to simmer down and acquire some perspective, because these overheated, trouser-rubbing posts of yours are not making you look very good.

What's nuts about this response (three people to this point) also is that it's totally based on one person's account and memory of a conversation, as reported on the Internet. The actual quote was probably worse. It probably was about finding someone more competent.

[Emergency Bacon]

But if she gets forced out, then I'm done with DMDN.

You are never going to be given enough information to know.  Unless what someone says to defend themselves on a messageboard counts as viable information.

It seems both Heather and Art are adept at omitting facts or just bending the truth to make themselves sound better (just like all humans)  Which one you choose to believe will just be confirmation bias.

[Value Of Pi]

That's precisely the conclusion I reached.

How many of us here would have the stones to grab the mic and face the searing hostility following Art's sudden departure, on air live  five nights a week, with the world's lowest forms of slime simultaneously trolling here and the open lines? Merely considering it makes my skin crawl.  I'm amazed that anyone in her position made it a month without ending up in a straight jacket.  If I were in that position, and the bosses I was torching my sanity for didn't thank their lucky stars to my courage and resilience throughout this wicked shit storm, I'd probably go Full Metal Jacket on every poor fucker who stumbled into my sights.

You see her as having the stones. I see her as acting foolishly and making bad decisions, which has nothing to do with being courageous or having guts. Different perspectives and impressions, I guess.

[3OctaveFart]

Maybe a lesson here in choosing your idols better.

Does Heather still think Art Bell did her a solid?

[Showroom Dummy]

It could well be that the lean mean team is suggesting listeners prefer a male voice for night-time talk radio, as an easier way (I guess? it's more diplomatic?) for telling Heather they feel the show needs someone with more experience.  I brought up the example that there has been no truly successful woman as a late night talk radio show in some time, which is true.  LJN's wife was brought up, and Rollye James, as successful women late night talk show hosts, but I question how really successful they were.  RJ's radio show is only just a once a week podcast now, so what brief success on radio she may have had has faded.  Staying power counts, too, in my book.  Clyde Lewis, for example has been on radio for over 20 years, most of that time (and still) on terrestrial radio and syndicated.  Perhaps LJN's wife was really good:  I never heard her.

candy jones 
http://www.maebrussell.com/Audio/Candy%20Jones.mp3

[Value Of Pi]

I DO think people have different definitions of what loyalty means.  I would want a loyal friend to tell me the truth, NOT blow sunshine up my chimney.

The meaning of loyalty is a great discussion subject. The word gets so much abuse as to be a travesty of its true, noble meaning.

[littlechris]

I'm happy I haven't read about someone discovering a body in this thread yet.

[Taco Bell]

Is that sweater from JC Pennys?

[stenjay]

Looks like you hacked Falkie's nipple mounted camera

[littlechris]

Is that sweater from JC Pennys?

Sears.

[Emergency Bacon]

All of this because of a supposed stalker. The most incompetent, least intimidating stalker ever.

The stalker is a mixed bag.  He's a poor shot and somehow managed to miss the house he was firing at, but knew enough tradecraft to pick up his ejected casings.

[norland2424]

[Taco Bell]

The stalker is a mixed bag.  He's a poor shot and somehow managed to miss the house he was firing at, but knew enough tradecraft to pick up his ejected casings.

It's probably hard to have a steady shot and masturbate at the same time.

[coaster]

On the subject of voice, here's a lady that doesn't need to try to sound good, she just sounds good.  Just read me the phone book lady.  You don't even need to try and sound flirty. <3

She has been on a lot of television programs, but I had no idea she did a podcast. Now I have something to listen to. Very cool, thanks for the link.

[Faustina]

They finally posted a guest for MITD tonight.  Looks like Heather hasn't hit terminal burn out yet, as some suspected.

Nick Redfern (again, but a good guest).  Looks like the ship is still afloat for now.

[norland2424]

She has been on a lot of television programs, but I had no idea she did a podcast. Now I have something to listen to. Very cool, thanks for the link.

That podcast usally comes on tues nights after hoaglands show.

[coaster]

That podcast usally comes on tues nights after hoaglands show.

no kidding..hmm. thanks for the info.
watching their show on the oort cloud now.

[Emergency Bacon]

It's probably hard to have a steady shot and masturbate at the same time.

[Faustina]

You are never going to be given enough information to know.  Unless what someone says to defend themselves on a messageboard counts as viable information.

It seems both Heather and Art are adept at omitting facts or just bending the truth to make themselves sound better (just like all humans)  Which one you choose to believe will just be confirmation bias.

Well put.  We'll likely get some sanitized excuse for when Heather finally departs to attempt to make it look better.  If/when she does leave, I don't see anyone agreeing to be a replacement for her at this point.  MITD will probably just cease to exist, with likely DMDN not long behind it.  Sad, after its well-intentioned beginnings.