George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[zeebo]

Someone just called in ... "George, you're one of my personal heroes."  Where do they come from, these Noory drones?  Do they grow them in a pumpkin patch or something? 

[Heather Wade]

They grow Nooron groupies in a gmo lab at monsanto.

[Designx]

Those nasty Jay Thomas commercials air during Coast on Sirius - I guess that tells something.
I wonder if you complained about it to Noory if anything would happen. Art had them gone the very next day.

[Falkie2013]

Someone just called in ... "George, you're one of my personal heroes."  Where do they come from, these Noory drones?  Do they grow them in a pumpkin patch or something?

The Grays leave them.

They're defective human/alien hybrids.

Even aliens can't stomach listening to $noory.

They've developed a techonology to bounce back all HIS broadcasts that attempt to bounce into deep space.
Whereas, to many intelligent races, Art Bell is seen as a godlike figure.

Hmm, do You Tube videos get beamed into space ?

[Falkie2013]

I like listening to LMH but I hate hearing these stories of animal mutilations.
It breaks my heart to hear this particularly when they animals are loved by their people and the people love their animals.

I am wondering why we don't hear stories of many wild animal mutilations or see any being found on nature trails, hiking trails or areas and the like as well as rest stops, watering holes, reservoirs etc.

[nooryisawesome]

I like listening to LMH but I hate hearing these stories of animal mutilations.
It breaks my heart to hear this particularly when they animals are loved by their people and the people love their animals.

I am wondering why we don't hear stories of many wild animal mutilations or see any being found on nature trails, hiking trails or areas and the like as well as rest stops, watering holes, reservoirs etc.

Maybe sickos mutilate their own animals to get noticed.


Ghoulish george loves animal and children being hurt stories. You can hear the glee in his voice.

[zeebo]

Those nasty Jay Thomas commercials air during Coast on Sirius - I guess that tells something.
I wonder if you complained about it to Noory if anything would happen. Art had them gone the very next day.

I doubt he cares what or how many commercials are appearing around the show.  He appears to only care about the numbers he's pulling in rather than the quality of the show for it's own sake.  It's not like Art who takes pride in what he's creating, as something which has it's own intrinsic value to people's lives (which is why it mattered to Art what kind of commercials and how many of them there were.)

[Falkie2013]

The $noore is a sick sob who revels in stories about hurt children and people.

One of the nice things about having LMH on is that during her interviews we all get a break from $nooron's voice droning on and on and on. ...

[zeebo]

I'm sure some of you guys have heard of "Garfield Minus Garfield", where if you remove Garfield the cat from his own comic strip, you end up with a kind of existential meditation:

http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/archive/

I wonder if we could have "George Noory Minus LMH" and achieve a similar effect.  I imagine it would be something like this:

Noory:  I wonder what could have happened?

(silence)

Noory:  It's mystifying.

(silence)

Noory:  Who knows what's out there?

(silence)

[nooryisawesome]

Someone needs to time how much coast is in"break" during the show. This counts advertisements, news breaks,George's stupid commercials, etc.

[PB the Deplorable]

Someone just called in ... "George, you're one of my personal heroes."  Where do they come from, these Noory drones?  Do they grow them in a pumpkin patch or something?

Some are paid callers, others are encouraged by Tommy to praise George, and the rest of them are just happy someone is finally listening to them (except he usually isn't)

[Morgus]

Someone needs to time how much coast is in"break" during the show. This counts advertisements, news breaks,George's stupid commercials, etc.

there appears to be about 37min of show per hour, but maybe a little less because Noory will often throw in extra coomments about his 'tv show' at times

[ZHero]

The $noore is a sick sob who revels in stories about hurt children and people.

One of the nice things about having LMH on is that during her interviews we all get a break from $nooron's voice droning on and on and on. ...

Every time Dave does a cryptozoology show, he NEVER fails to excitedly mention the little boy who almost got carried away by the Thunderbird. You can hear him frothing at the mouth wishing he had been there to stop the mother from saving the kid. 
  And , yeah, I agree, LMH is a nice break from Nooron's idiot babble.  I can almost hear the contempt in her voice for Nooron.

[Falkie2013]

I'm sure some of you guys have heard of "Garfield Minus Garfield", where if you remove Garfield the cat from his own comic strip, you end up with a kind of existential meditation:

http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/archive/

I wonder if we could have "George Noory Minus LMH" and achieve a similar effect.  I imagine it would be something like this:

Noory:  I wonder what could have happened?

(silence)

Noory:  It's mystifying.

(silence)

Noory:  Who knows what's out there?

(silence)

Noory - LMH.

click.

The sound of thousands of radios being shut off all at once.
Or perhaps the source of those mystery booms every night all over the place.
I have noticed that when LMH is on, $noorge doesn't seem to make as many verbal flubs.
Maybe she's told him off privately to let her talk and to stfu while she's giving her reports.
No comedy nuggets on this show that I have seen.

Caller had a good line that he had been on hold so long he was in another state.
Didn't have that with Art on Sirius either, did you ?

Adopt a moose and some butterflies tomorrow, ok ?

[Falkie2013]

ITvis has left the building.

[SciFiAuthor]

First off, on any of my performance reviews that showed 5 significant issues that impacted my performance for more than 6 months, I would be let go. And so would most people. If my superior let those issues continue for any time past that, their position would be in question. For it to go 10 years...

Noory is a hack, and he sucks.

I also find it interesting that you suggest PB sees things as he wants to. Are you able to put that label on yourself as well?

That depends on what you see as performance. Premiere is a corporation, not a welfare department. They are interested in bottom line performance only, how much Noory brings in in advertising and numbers. Apparently those numbers must be good, especially in light of Art noting how much time they devote to advertising. Noory's apparently made them millions of dollars over that ten years and seems to have no shortage of advertisers. Well, there's your performance review.

No. When you have a guy that's on air for 4 hours, has multiple projects and public appearances, frequent travel, unknown but certainly existent corporate meetings etc. you have absolutely no basis or justification to weave a narrative that he's lazy and sitting around all day. You're more than welcome to try back PB's point up there.

[SciFiAuthor]

I find it incredibly creepy that I was about to make the same statement after reading SciFi's post, and just happened to refresh the page before I posted.

I would go further and ask SciFi if his work exhibited those same flaws that he considers salient, how successful would he be in his chosen profession?

Noory appeals to a segment of the population that is high on paranoia and low on brain cells. I believe that, and his ability to somehow impress (or bullshit) his superiors are the only things that have kept him on the radio.

Here is the state of my chosen profession: if you aren't writing a dystopia, some bullshit about vampires, a BDSM smut piece that makes a Harlequin novel look like 2nd grader reading, or something about Japanese people carving each other up and dancing around in the blood, you will not generate the numbers required for a major breakout book that profits a publisher on a level that can be considered "Good" performance.

This means that the work of Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Frank Herbert, and a good many others would be unpublishable in today's climate.

The reason for that is audience taste. Apparently, especially in light that everyone's bitching about how much advertising Noory has, George is bringing in the bucks by supplying what his audience wants. That bottom line will guarantee passage of the performance review every time.

George is not Art Bell. Bell is a hundred times the broadcaster in his style. Unfortunately though, that style, apparently, is now "so, like, 90's" to the audience and he himself said he couldn't keep his base listening. Welcome to pop cultural entertainment in the 2010's! It's about placating the dumbed down population, not quality. Don't do that, and you don't profit. You could be god himself on the mic or the word processor, and you won't pass a performance review if you do not sell.

[thexfile]

Noory is the new Imus. All he needs is a cowboy hat.

[valdez]

Tonite ... Bigfoot research & LMH.  I should be happy...

...It breaks my heart to hear this...

...I can almost hear the contempt in her voice for Nooron.

Rhettman Mullis on bigfoot.  He's putting together a team to "catch, tag, and release" them so that they can be better studied.  Amazing. Truly amazing. It's weird how rising sea levels, and polar bears drifting around on ice sheets, and global super storms mean nothing to me; but listening to Linda Moulton Howe describe the effects of global warming on monarch butterflies and all of a sudden this climate change denier starts to genuinely feel bad about the whole thing.  She also talked about those loud booms that people are hearing around the world.  George wondered if the sounds were caused by "illuminati types that might be building bunkers...Have you ruled that out?" George uses the "you can't rule it out" theorem to legitimize most of the half-baked schemes he pretends to patronize, but LMH wasn't in the mood for it.  She just laughed.

sadness

[onan]

That depends on what you see as performance. Premiere is a corporation, not a welfare department. They are interested in bottom line performance only, how much Noory brings in in advertising and numbers. Apparently those numbers must be good, especially in light of Art noting how much time they devote to advertising. Noory's apparently made them millions of dollars over that ten years and seems to have no shortage of advertisers. Well, there's your performance review.

No. When you have a guy that's on air for 4 hours, has multiple projects and public appearances, frequent travel, unknown but certainly existent corporate meetings etc. you have absolutely no basis or justification to weave a narrative that he's lazy and sitting around all day. You're more than welcome to try back PB's point up there.

I know lots of people that are incompetent and keep their job. It certainly isn't a majority but they are there. As I said I know lost of people that are incompetent, noory is one of them.

[UnscreenedCaller]

      Rhettman Mullis on bigfoot.  He's putting together a team to "catch, tag, and release" them so that they can be better studied.  Amazing. Truly amazing.

I listened to this bull crap on the way to work this morning. The desire to facepalm myself was incredible. Only the fact that I was driving saved me.

And here is where my complaint about George's interviewing skills, not to mention gullibility, hits bedrock. Mullins claims to have 4 people who were descended form Bigfoots. Did science intervene and George inquire how inter species fertilization was possible? Nope. And the proof? Not dodgy DNA - one guy had abnormally large hand and feet and was massive. A quick look at any medical site should offer plenty of pituitary problems that affect growth, but that little detail never came up.

I don't mind suspending disbelief, but sloppy over generalizations and a disregard for basic medical principles is a road too far for me. George should have at least asked the questions.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Welcome to pop cultural entertainment in the 2010's! It's about placating the dumbed down population, not quality. Don't do that, and you don't profit. You could be god himself on the mic or the word processor, and you won't pass a performance review if you do not sell.

The point of this thread is George Noory Sucks.  I don't think people are all that concerned whether he is making money for PremRat or not, although it has been pointed out (in a long essay by Rollye James) that he is bundled in a package deal to stations that want to carry Rush, and is just filling a time slot that might otherwise go to a competitor. 

You were arguing that he doesn't really suck, that we are all just making it up.  Now it sounds like you're saying it's ok if he sucks as long as PremRat is making money.  That's a whole different argument, and one that is not in conflict with this thread. 

[PB the Deplorable]

... No. When you have a guy that's on air for 4 hours, has multiple projects and public appearances, frequent travel, unknown but certainly existent corporate meetings etc. you have absolutely no basis or justification to weave a narrative that he's lazy and sitting around all day. You're more than welcome to try back PB's point up there.

The point is he does not put in the required effort to do a good job hosting Coast.  He does not come prepared, period.  And since he doesn't really have the talent for the job, he should be the last one to just try to wing it every night.

That he is sometimes working on all these other things instead of just surfing he net all day is irrelevant.  As far as not coming to his show prepared it doesn't matter what he is doing or not doing, whether he is working on his side gigs or just napping. 

When it comes to Coast, I call it laziness.  You think his days are filled with something other than Coast.  Either way... 

[SciFiAuthor]

I know lots of people that are incompetent and keep their job. It certainly isn't a majority but they are there. As I said I know lost of people that are incompetent, noory is one of them.

Incompetent still has to make money. With all that advertising, Noory's pulling in millions for Premiere. That's the real bottom line. He also seems to be keeping advertisers for a very long time, Carnivora just keeps going and going. Well, they wouldn't be doing that if they weren't selling pills to enough of an audience to make it worthwhile.

[SciFiAuthor]

The point of this thread is George Noory Sucks.  I don't think people are all that concerned whether he is making money for PremRat or not, although it has been pointed out (in a long essay by Rollye James) that he is bundled in a package deal to stations that want to carry Rush, and is just filling a time slot that might otherwise go to a competitor. 

You were arguing that he doesn't really suck, that we are all just making it up.  Now it sounds like you're saying it's ok if he sucks as long as PremRat is making money.  That's a whole different argument, and one that is not in conflict with this thread.

Yes, but some people here are unreasonable whiners that seem disconnected from the real world. They don't account that they get Noory's product for free (who bitches about the quality of a free product in any other context?). Some even bitched that Art wasn't free, and yet still bitched on and on about Noory's free product.

I don't believe the bundling business. If he were ineffective, he would have no advertisers. Flat out bottom line. There is no way around that, none, zilch, zero. Premiere is not a charity to give George Noory a show. He MUST produce a profit from advertising, and given that the only complaints are about how MUCH advertising the guy has, he must be profiting his ass off for Premiere. That is irrefutable. Rumors of how he got his affiliates do not erase that bottom line.

And speaking of affiliates, he quit an affiliate here. KTRS, his old station when he was on in St. Louis and moved to the powerhouse FM newstalk station and a big fight ensued with more than a little trashing of the situation by the other KTRS talkers. Um, that's two affiliates fighting over carrying George Noory. Google search KTRS and Noory together and you'll see it. Bundling trick? My ass, doesn't wash.

Yes, most of it is made up other than five legitimate criticisms that cover everything. I've said it before, I agree with those. He does lose focus especially. He really sucks for the Oates trick. He needs a better methodology of questioning. But let's not forget that a huge chunk of this thread is devoted to such things as claims of a homosexual love affair between George and his producer, claims about the death of his aunt, and such other gems as a lisp that categorically doesn't exist, dual conflicting claims of nefarious machinations and idiocy despite the two being mutually exclusive, baseless and logically dismissable claims of laziness, and many other narratives that don't hold water when the facts are laid bare.

[Juan]

I don't believe the bundling business. If he were ineffective, he would have no advertisers. Flat out bottom line. There is no way around that, none, zilch, zero. Premiere is not a charity to give George Noory a show. He MUST produce a profit from advertising, and given that the only complaints are about how MUCH advertising the guy has, he must be profiting his ass off for Premiere. That is irrefutable. Rumors of how he got his affiliates do not erase that bottom line.

There are other things to consider.  Cheap Channel owns hundreds of radio stations and they need overnight programming.  It's much cheaper for the company to provide an inexpensive program such as Coast than to get programming elsewhere.  Coast does not need to bring in large amounts of advertising dollars to be valuable to the company.  Second, some advertisers buy a specific program, but others make blanket buys that cover the entire broadcast day.  That way, they get their ads on Rush, on Hannity, Andy Dean, and the other Cheap Channel shows as well as Coast.  It costs less per ad that way.

As for affiliates, the idea that Noory is only on low powered stations is a fantasy of some on this board.  In my market, he's on a 50,000-watt AM station and on a100,000-watt FM station.  Nobody covers the market as these two stations do.

[onan]

Incompetent still has to make money. With all that advertising, Noory's pulling in millions for Premiere. That's the real bottom line. He also seems to be keeping advertisers for a very long time, Carnivora just keeps going and going. Well, they wouldn't be doing that if they weren't selling pills to enough of an audience to make it worthwhile.

Quit moving the fucking goal post. Your devil's advocate is getting tiresome. Noory sucks. It is that simple.

[DanTSX]

The Grays leave them.

They're defective human/alien hybrids.

Even aliens can't stomach listening to $noory.

They've developed a techonology to bounce back all HIS broadcasts that attempt to bounce into deep space.
Whereas, to many intelligent races, Art Bell is seen as a godlike figure.

Hmm, do You Tube videos get beamed into space ?

Rectal Core

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[Mind Flayer Monk]

dual conflicting claims of nefarious machinations and idiocy despite the two being mutually exclusive,

Plenty of idiotic and manipulative people on Jerry Springer.

[zeebo]

That depends on what you see as performance. Premiere is a corporation, not a welfare department. They are interested in bottom line performance only, how much Noory brings in in advertising and numbers.
...

Yep I think you're right on that.  It's like a Hollywood studio churning out high-grossing schlock vs. an indie studio making something with true artistic and cultural merit.  For instance I know Art couldn't deal with excessive ads that Premiere airs, which are profitable yes, but harmful to the overall quality of the experience.  Ironic that c2c is now the one on the "Indie" channel.