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bateman

Quote from: the_peeve on January 19, 2016, 08:36:18 PM
I have lost a lot respect for Bateman. He took advantage of the situation. Heather had her hands tied with the network and the show, and couldn't say much while Bateman went straight for mud-slinging.
I find he retains information to use for future mud-slinging. For someone who says he doesn't like drama, it doesn't bode well when you are a repetitive mud-slinger. He seemed to be in a peculiar situation (getting calls from Heather when she might have been airing out grievances and stress from the show). That shouldn't have been made public, and it's just mud-slinging to bring that up and calling it meltdowns. A meltdown is when someone doesn't come out of the shit-show in the same standing. Therefore, Heather might have had a shit-show on the phone with him, but it wasn't a meltdown. Using the word "meltdown" was hurtful and vindictive. Calling her a lunatic was super low.
Was rattling Bateman's cage a dick move? Yeah, but I also get a feeling that if Bateman said "Yeah, I want the show" she would have seriously taken that into consideration and help get his foot through the door. Instead Bateman seems to be butt-hurt about not being approached before Heather for the show's reigns to start with. He has a lot of vitriol for Heather's show on this GabCast. It comes out as unhealthy disdain.
I remember he did the same mud-slinging when Noory sent him PM messages here at BG. It's just an opportunist who likes to air that kind of stuff out in public. It's shallow and self-serving only. Those were private conversations between Heather and Bateman.
Yeah Heather looked bad on this Gabcast, but she took the high road and would have been super stupid to do otherwise. Bateman hit below the belt and it sucks because I thought they were friends at one time. She seems to have been betrayed by many one-time friends.
Although its Gabcast, it is still a public forum and cast. There needs to civility and professionalism and Bateman crossed the line and I can't listen to non-professionals, so his outburst cost me as a listener to his show.

Quote from: the_peeve on December 20, 2015, 07:26:08 PM
There ain't no meltdowns like former DMN member meltdowns or soon to be former (Midlands)!

Reported for using the word meltdown.

Your post is incoherent. -10 points.


ItsOver

Quote from: bateman on January 20, 2016, 04:46:50 PM
Reported for using the word meltdown.

Your post is incoherent. -10 points.
Welcome, "Heather."  ;)

Seriously, I'm glad you called the GabCast and spoke your peace.

Gruntled

Quote from: starrmtn001 on January 20, 2016, 01:38:05 PM
Yes, I am NOT a professional.  You'll get no argument from me.  I, very much, regret volunteering for that episode.  I could have feigned tech or Skype problems and bailed, but I didn't.  I gave my word to co host, and kept it.  I was simply doing my part to keep things from getting bloody ugly.  But, apparently, most folks in the chat room wanted to see a cage fight.  I do not regret, nor do I apologize for helping to keep things from turning into a blood bath on air.  Also, I will never apologize for being me, for being who I am.
Dear Ms Star, I much admire your willingness to co host the GabCast
You never have to apologize for being a gracious, kind person.
Well done.

starrmtn001

Quote from: Gruntled on January 20, 2016, 05:10:15 PM
Dear Ms Star, I much admire your willingness to co host the GabCast
You never have to apologize for being a gracious, kind person.
Well done.
Thank you kindly Mr. Gruntled.  :)

Taco Bell

Bateman, more like baitman, am I right?

Will check his show out this evening assuming I can find it.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Taco Bell on January 20, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
Bateman, more like baitman, am I right?

Will check his show out this evening assuming I can find it.

His podcasts are well done. DarkCity.fm

HumanBeing

Quote from: ItsOver on January 20, 2016, 04:51:52 PM
Welcome, "Heather."  ;)

Seriously, I'm glad you called the GabCast and spoke your peace.


Quote from: GravitySucks on January 20, 2016, 08:37:35 AM
I'm still royally pissed off that (Redacted) and Bateman even called in. Self-promoting, arrogant twats they are. The show is GabCast. Not MITDCast or DCCast dammit. They can call each other out on their own shows.

We had important stuff to discuss. Falkie had just been to a Woo Woo Con. The number of Trump posts on the forum heavily out weigh the number of posts for all other candidates. There was bacon in the Bella-Haven thread. People were mourning the passing of David Bowie. On January 17, 1916 something happened. I don't remember what, but I saw a post on it. LittleChris is back. EddieCoyle isn't. Everybody knows Clinton is a crook, but there is heated debate about whether or not she will be indicted. Chine has new artwork. Haiku production has slowed way down.

THESE were the issues we should have been discussing. Things that are the heart and soul of BellGab.

The interviews were a travesty. Not because of the questions that were asked or were not asked, but by the mere fact that they happened at all.

I ask you again... What difference does it make???

First, I'd like to say I've enjoyed every GabCast, and think the guest hosts have done well.  I realize they aren't professionals, and that's part of what makes it a good show.  I didn't mean to be critical, I just thought there was a lost opportunity for some interesting questions instead of repeatedly asking them to be friends,   

I agree with your post to a certain extent, and reiterate what I said about the phone calls.  If it were me, I'd either have no phone calls at all or take a few towards the end of the show.  If there are topics the hosts want to discuss, why not do that instead of cutting off in the middle of a conversation just because the phone rings.  I really do not understand the rush to drop everything to answer the phone and go in whatever direction the caller takes you.

If a host thought Bateman and (Redacted) were taking up too much time and wanted to go on to other thing, ask each of them for a final comment and wrap it up. 

Maybe in the future the hosts could discuss whatever topics they have planned, then ask for phone calls. 



Quote from: GravitySucks on January 20, 2016, 03:41:57 PM
If you are going to post quotes, you should post them in context. I told both of them via PM and in the thread itself, that they were being unprofessional.

If either of them worked for me, and I had a business reputation to maintain, they would have been fired.

I don't think I would fit in her pants.

I don't think bateman (Steve) did or said anything unprofessional. Too me, it sounded like he was defending himself against Heather's passive aggressive behavior. She also called him a "liar" on the air...

I'm not suprised at all he was upset, and felt like he needed to respond. She tired to pull an Urkel and was called on it.

-"Did I do thaaat???"

qaddisin

Don't normally listen to the GabCast. I don't like the "morning zoo" atmosphere of too many co-hosts trying to talk over each other. Decided to give this one a listen because, well, drama.

Regarding the (redacted)/bateman fracas: My perception is that bateman politely announced he was stepping away from DMDN for 'reasons', (redacted) decided to exacerbate the situation, and it degenerated from there. Of course the whole thing could have been handled with more aplomb on both sides, but I completely understand bateman's desire for equal time to defend himself when (redacted) called in. It seems as though there are more than few people on the forum who accuse bateman of acting out of line, but give (redacted) a pass when she acted the same way, if not worse.

Regarding the hosts: I understand the desire to want to keep the peace, but you just ended up coming off like milquetoasts. If you didn't want to devote the show to that situation, then ask them to give a brief statement, offer the chance for each to give a brief rebuttal, then move on with whatever topics you want. Or even just tell them to not use this platform for this and end both calls. It's more than a little disingenuous to say that "we didn't want it to be like that", but keep them both on for the entire show because drama = listeners.

I agree with P*B's assessment that if the topics you want to discuss are so important to you, then don't take calls until the end of the program. It ends up becoming a disjointed "party line" that, I personally believe, becomes too hard to listen to.

HumanBeing

Quote from: Paper*Boy on January 20, 2016, 05:43:04 PM
First, I'd like to say I've enjoyed every GabCast, and think the guest hosts have done well.  I realize they aren't professionals, and that's part of what makes it a good show.  I didn't mean to be critical, I just thought there was a lost opportunity for some interesting questions instead of repeatedly asking them to be friends,   

I agree with your post to a certain extent, and reiterate what I said about the phone calls.  If it were me, I'd either have no phone calls at all or take a few towards the end of the show.  If there are topics the hosts want to discuss, why not do that instead of cutting off in the middle of a conversation just because the phone rings.  I really do not understand the rush to drop everything to answer the phone and go in whatever direction the caller takes you.

If a host thought Bateman and (Redacted) were taking up too much time and wanted to go on to other thing, ask each of them for a final comment and wrap it up. 

Maybe in the future the hosts could discuss whatever topics they have planned, then ask for phone calls.

+1

so this is what i'm getting from reading the posts
im in negotiations right now with MV  that we do GABCAST about THE LAST GABCAST

we will have 4 co hosts  and we can talk in full detail about what we should or shouldn't have done     
everyone who wants to can call in and contribute   how awesome

who's with me .........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zc0BI7T1LA


cweb

Quote from: rekcuf on January 20, 2016, 05:46:03 PM
I don't think bateman (Steve) did or said anything unprofessional. Too me, it sounded like he was defending himself against Heather's passive aggressive behavior. She also called him a "liar" on the air...

I'm not suprised at all he was upset, and felt like he needed to respond. She tired to pull an Urkel and was called on it.

-"Did I do thaaat???"
He was definitely aggressive, but I'd be pissed too. It was insulting the way she just threw the show at him.

She's obviously hurt by what's been said, but that's what happens when you become a public figure- no matter how anonymous you make yourself. Listening to the conversation/argument again, Heather's account lacks consistency and completeness. Either she was flustered, or she had a selective way of remembering things. Maybe both.

At one time I considered that perhaps she was favored because she might be related to Art, but I think it just boils down to the fact that she was there and Art wanted to give her a shot.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Showroom Dummy on January 20, 2016, 06:54:07 PM
so this is what i'm getting from reading the posts
im in negotiations right now with MV  that we do GABCAST about THE LAST GABCAST

we will have 4 co hosts  and we can talk in full detail about what we should or shouldn't have done     
everyone who wants to can call in and contribute   how awesome

who's with me .........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zc0BI7T1LA

FIRST RULE OF GABCAST. THERE IS NO GABCAST.


akwilly

I finally got to listen to the gabcast. I thought Bateman came across as mean. I felt that heather did a great job keeping her cool. I think girls make phone calls to rant all the time. I feel her phone call to Bateman should stayed between them. Bateman is a very talented radio guy as well as heather.bateman, in my mind, sounded like guys I know that think they can do my job better than me, but when given the chance they fold under the pressure or can't do it for any length of time.


Element 115

Quote from: Meatie Pie on January 20, 2016, 07:17:24 PM
Four co-hosts is too many, imo.

But seriously, they all did well. No one was aware that Heather and Bateman were going to call in. They did well considering the circumstances.

3OctaveFart

They did fine. But had to unnecessarily interject to participate. Two hosts is enough for this show. They're not discussing the Middle East crisis.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: akwilly on January 20, 2016, 07:24:54 PM
I finally got to listen to the gabcast. I thought Bateman came across as mean. I felt that heather did a great job keeping her cool. I think girls make phone calls to rant all the time. I feel her phone call to Bateman should stayed between them. Bateman is a very talented radio guy as well as heather.bateman, in my mind, sounded like guys I know that think they can do my job better than me, but when given the chance they fold under the pressure or can't do it for any length of time.

What do you actually know about Bateman that tells you he's one of those guys that fold under pressure or can't get it done? And does your experience with people like this include just men, or women also?

Quote from: akwilly on January 20, 2016, 07:24:54 PM
I finally got to listen to the gabcast. I thought Bateman came across as mean. I felt that heather did a great job keeping her cool. I think girls make phone calls to rant all the time. I feel her phone call to Bateman should stayed between them. Bateman is a very talented radio guy as well as heather.bateman, in my mind, sounded like guys I know that think they can do my job better than me, but when given the chance they fold under the pressure or can't do it for any length of time.

Mean, maybe? Some times the truth hurts. bateman also said he had helped her out many times, which she didn't rebut. I don't feel pity for her.

last point on a positive
since we now have TEN good questions to ask heather  many here agree on them-
who ever would like should take one of the TEN GOOD QUESTIONS FOR HEATHER
open lines are Friday please call in and ask  and we will finally get to the bottom of the bottom
we can look at the last gabcast as a incredible situation or dry run which has allowed us to work out 
TEN GOOD QUESTIONS FOR HEATHER
she has said ask anything on her open lines lets take her up on it   on a positive we only had to wait five days to find the truth  that we were unable to get the other day
thanks so much to SredniVashtar for the QUESTIONS and i am excited and looking forward to hearing your call and her response
YEAH
Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 20, 2016, 05:29:42 AM
1. Is Heather Wade your real name?
2. If you are so reluctant to be on the air, why did you pull a hissy fit and get a man fired who was trying to find a replacement to take the heat off you?
3. Isn't it more likely that, instead of saying 'we don't want a woman on the air', they actually said 'we don't want that woman on the air'?
4. Did Art ever explain why your co-hosting gig a few months ago ended after one badly-received appearance? If he thought you were an embryonic talent, why didn't he find you a low-profile spot on DMDN to cut your teeth and learn from your mistakes?
5. Did Art explain why you got the producer's job based on zero experience or demonstrable aptitude for the position?
6. If you failed as a co-host, why have you been considered suitable (by the man who canned you previously) to be the sole host of the show?
7. Why are you so reluctant to reveal anything about yourself? The first thing people tend to think when people do that is that they have been in jail.
8. Why are you so confident that there is a stalker? Do you have first-hand knowledge, or is it all based on Art's testimony? If it was, then why did you think you had the authority to file a police report without his knowledge?
9. Are you living in Pahrump?
10. Did you come on the show of your own volition, or did Art tell you to?

coaster

Quote from: akwilly on January 20, 2016, 07:24:54 PM
I think girls make phone calls to rant all the time.
Yes, they have uncontrollable emotions. Also, weak wrists and cooties.

akwilly

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 20, 2016, 07:56:51 PM
What do you actually know about Bateman that tells you he's one of those guys that fold under pressure or can't get it done? And does your experience with people like this include just men, or women also?
I don't know much about Bateman other than he is really good on his show. I might not have expressed my thoughts in a reasonable mannor. What I meant was that I have dealt with people, all male, that think they can do my job ( fishing) and I have dealt with their nagging about not catching enough or how and where I take my boat and so on. So finally I told one of the guys here you do it, you take the responsibility,you work for yourself, you take the risks. He didn't last a day. So what I mean is that I felt Bateman was kinda being an armchair quarterback.

Let's not forget Redacted called bateman a two-faced liar, a coward and then started accusing him of needing his girlfriend to defend him when he was trying to back off initially.

I mean... come on white knights, get it together.

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