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Fox confirms X-Files reboot talks; Anderson & Duchovny may reprise roles

Started by bateman, January 17, 2015, 04:07:22 PM



coaster

I'm ten minutes in the latest episode and I already can't stand the mini Mulder and Scully team. The Einstein woman is overacting in every scene. And a story about terrorism to boot. The series is going in the wrong direction.  I'm actually about to turn it off. Never thought I'd say that about the X Files.
Edit-kept watching and it did get better, though I cannot stand the two kids playing agents. Unbearable.

Faustina

Quote from: coaster on February 16, 2016, 12:26:07 AM
I'm ten minutes in the latest episode and I already can't stand the mini Mulder and Scully team. The Einstein woman is overacting in every scene. And a story about terrorism to boot. The series is going in the wrong direction.  I'm actually about to turn it off. Never thought I'd say that about the X Files.
Edit-kept watching and it did get better, though I cannot stand the two kids playing agents. Unbearable.

Agent Einstein was obviously based on a Young Scully, too.  Casting missed its mark on that score:  I found her grating. 

area51drone

Quote from: coaster on February 16, 2016, 12:26:07 AM
I'm ten minutes in the latest episode and I already can't stand the mini Mulder and Scully team. The Einstein woman is overacting in every scene. And a story about terrorism to boot. The series is going in the wrong direction.  I'm actually about to turn it off. Never thought I'd say that about the X Files.
Edit-kept watching and it did get better, though I cannot stand the two kids playing agents. Unbearable.

Quote from: Faustina on February 16, 2016, 01:11:46 AM
Agent Einstein was obviously based on a Young Scully, too.  Casting missed its mark on that score:  I found her grating. 

Agreed.  Real people don't talk as succinctly as the interaction between her and everyone else.   It could just be the direction.  The end of the episode sequence with her and Miller wasn't a bad scene.   Miller is too GQ for the role, and sounds too young at times to be believable, although again, at the end scene, he was fine.

I liked the episode, the tripping montage was good, and I liked how Scully came up with the way to communicate through ecg monitors.  Scully's voice is still shot though, and damn I still wish she'd just put on like 5 pounds.   The gaunt look does not work for her. 

I think with enough time they (duchovney/anderson/carter) could get back in step, so far it's been kind of a rocky road.   Before I watched this episode, I watched the x00 teaser thing and I couldn't believe how much they were congratulating themselves on how great their casting of the extra characters in episode 1 was.   LOL, it was atrocious.


I'd take this Scully look over the current one any day, and it has nothing to do with her age.



BTW, where was this image from, anyone know?  Both of them look better in this image than they do in the show, although maybe it was photoshopped.





Value Of Pi

Loved the episode and the Chris Carter writing. I don't understand the negative reaction to the younger Mulder/Scully characters, pretty amusing really, and I love this actress from her role in "Six Feet Under."

The final scene with Mulder and Scully reflecting on God and the state of the world was terrific and the whole episode worked on a number of levels. I'm not sure what the critics here are wanting and not getting. The show is delivering what it has in the past, assuming you liked it back then.

area51drone

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 16, 2016, 04:32:27 AM
Loved the episode and the Chris Carter writing. I don't understand the negative reaction to the younger Mulder/Scully characters, pretty amusing really, and I love this actress from her role in "Six Feet Under."

One of the reasons, if I recall correctly, is that he already did it in a previous episode.   Kind of pointless.  It would be better if it were characters that weren't playing off other characters.  I mean, really?

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 16, 2016, 04:32:27 AM
The final scene with Mulder and Scully reflecting on God and the state of the world was terrific and the whole episode worked on a number of levels. I'm not sure what the critics here are wanting and not getting. The show is delivering what it has in the past, assuming you liked it back then.

I've heard it said elsewhere that the show is too much like the X-Files for it's own good. It blasts past any criticism based on it not being faithful because it's eminently faithful and gets into the minutiae like Scully being too thin or their voices sounding gravelly (how does one fix that?), which would normally be secondary footnote criticisms. People are using a magnifying glass that is too highly powered in order to criticize, setting their expectations impossibly high to the point of involving aging as a factor in their disappointment with the series. That is not valid criticism, that's perfectionism.

My take is that it's the X-Files as it always has been. This miniseries feels more like the classic X-Files than seasons 8, 9 and the last movie. We even got a classic episode that stacks up well to the first five seasons in "Mulder and Scully Meet the Were-Monster". There have been some weak episodes, episodes 1 and 4 were weak, but there were weak episodes in the first five seasons. Last night's episode was good overall, I thought. I walked away feeling entertained, given that I was looking forward to it beforehand. It's nice to look forward to watching an episode of something on TV again, I haven't felt that since "Lost". But I want more than 6 episodes.

onan

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on February 16, 2016, 10:02:48 AM
I've heard it said elsewhere that the show is too much like the X-Files for it's own good. It blasts past any criticism based on it not being faithful because it's eminently faithful and gets into the minutiae like Scully being too thin or their voices sounding gravelly (how does one fix that?), which would normally be secondary footnote criticisms. People are using a magnifying glass that is too highly powered in order to criticize, setting their expectations impossibly high to the point of involving aging as a factor in their disappointment with the series. That is not valid criticism, that's perfectionism.

My take is that it's the X-Files as it always has been. This miniseries feels more like the classic X-Files than seasons 8, 9 and the last movie. We even got a classic episode that stacks up well to the first five seasons in "Mulder and Scully Meet the Were-Monster". There have been some weak episodes, episodes 1 and 4 were weak, but there were weak episodes in the first five seasons. Last night's episode was good overall, I thought. I walked away feeling entertained, given that I was looking forward to it beforehand. It's nice to look forward to watching an episode of something on TV again, I haven't felt that since "Lost". But I want more than 6 episodes.

Well said. My wife and I had a bit of a scuffle this morning regarding Einstein (Lauren Ambrose) and Miller (Robbie Amell). She thought they were fine. They weren't fine to me. But as someone else said, no one is going to fill Fox's and Dana's shoes.

Again the show gave their fans some nostalgia with the Lone Gunman with cameos. I felt it wasn't enough, but it was fun.

However when Scully first says to Einstein and Miller "Nobody here but the FBI's most unwanted", I am pretty sure that is what Fox first said to Scully at their first meeting. And then at the end of the episode, the camera zoom out was just like the zoom out in the movie where the two are on a boat.

Loved Episode 5.

Carter was asked by FOX executives what he thought about the possibility of a X FILES spin-off. To Carter, the show is Mulder and Scully. But, he thought he might have a little fun and insert the two young agents (Miller and Einstein).

There are no plans for a spin-off, and no plans for another season. However, it`s likely FOX will approach Carter and the gang soon about continuing the saga.

ItsOver

Quote from: Faustina on February 16, 2016, 01:11:46 AM
Agent Einstein was obviously based on a Young Scully, too.  Casting missed its mark on that score:  I found her grating.
Yes, over-acting and annoying.  Unfortunately, that's what TV casting seems to look for for today's shows.  Acting talent?  Heh?  What's that?  Plus, the rapid-fire, staccato opening dialogue between the foursome was less than amusing.  I'll chalk it up to too much Red Bull and Starbucks and attempting to cater to the short-attention span demographic.

Overall, the episode still beat just about anything else on big-time TV, these days.  It's too bad the last episode is almost upon us.  The preview looked good.  I still hope the original gang can produce some more shows, hopefully with some better Mulder and Scully wannabees next time, if the need arises.



bateman

I thought Einstein & Miller were alright, but it was clear how out of their depth they were whenever Mulder & Scully were onscreen. I don't think they could carry a show on their own very well.

ItsOver

Quote from: bateman on February 16, 2016, 02:35:52 PM
https://youtu.be/HcGImfZe2NA

Oh sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet
It'll be interesting to see just how final "The Final" is next week.  From the preview, it appears "The Conspiracy" has "infected" the Earth's population with alien genetics.  Genetics which seem to have been counting down for a transformation of the population into an alien life-form.  "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," anyone?


Value Of Pi

Quote from: bateman on February 16, 2016, 02:38:39 PM
I thought Einstein & Miller were alright, but it was clear how out of their depth they were whenever Mulder & Scully were onscreen. I don't think they could carry a show on their own very well.

Okay, let's not get paranoid here. Just because we had Doggett and Reyes for awhile doesn't mean Mulder and Scully are in danger.

I like the idea of Einstein and Miller. It's M&S working a case with their younger selves, which is a fun way to add an extra bit of nostalgia and show how M&S have changed. More about the dynamic than the intrinsic value of these characters, IMO.

I like the magnifying glass explanation of where some of the critiques are coming from. I, for one, revel in any opportunity not to complain about something, or better yet, to praise something that actually works as it should. We don't often get these opportunities. This show isn't perfect but it's still pretty damn good.

Quote from: Evil Twin Of Zen on February 01, 2016, 09:04:04 PM
i never cared much for the X-Files. got boring half way through the first season. the monster of the week eps or the dry hump ufo searching eps. yawn.  :)

Season 10 Episode 3

Better.

Different.

More please.

8)

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: onan on February 16, 2016, 10:20:08 AM
Well said. My wife and I had a bit of a scuffle this morning regarding Einstein (Lauren Ambrose) and Miller (Robbie Amell). She thought they were fine. They weren't fine to me. But as someone else said, no one is going to fill Fox's and Dana's shoes.

I didn't mind them, other than you could definitely tell that Duchovney and Anderson are superior actors that are very comfortable in their characters. But I also don't think they are intended as replacements. I think they are just there for plot purposes with the possibility that if they proved popular a spin-off could be considered.

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Again the show gave their fans some nostalgia with the Lone Gunman with cameos. I felt it wasn't enough, but it was fun.

That's been one of the strong points of the miniseries for me. Carter really tapped into the fan nostalgia and ran with it to great effect. I do think the Lone Gunmen should have been more than a brief flash though. However, overall, the Mulder shrooming sequence was great.

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However when Scully first says to Einstein and Miller "Nobody here but the FBI's most unwanted", I am pretty sure that is what Fox first said to Scully at their first meeting. And then at the end of the episode, the camera zoom out was just like the zoom out in the movie where the two are on a boat.

Yeah, I caught that too.

Faustina

Quote from: bateman on February 16, 2016, 02:38:39 PM
I thought Einstein & Miller were alright, but it was clear how out of their depth they were whenever Mulder & Scully were onscreen. I don't think they could carry a show on their own very well.

Completely agree, as I don't find either at all charismatic (agree with the person who commented that Miller was "too GQ").  Einstein was annoyingly over-assertive and too "snippity" and Miller was too generic male-model-ish.  I'm really hoping FOX doesn't plan an X-Files spin-off show based around those two. 

Faustina

Quote from: ItsOver on February 16, 2016, 02:47:22 PM
It'll be interesting to see just how final "The Final" is next week.  From the preview, it appears "The Conspiracy" has "infected" the Earth's population with alien genetics.  Genetics which seem to have been counting down for a transformation of the population into an alien life-form.  "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," anyone?


I'm a little nonplussed that the storyline from episode 1 of this season seems to have been dropped.  I expected some follow-through on whatever happened to the Alex Jones-type character from that episode.  (Forgetting his name,... "Mahoney"?).  I don't think it would be in character for Mulder and Scully not to persevere and make sure if he was okay, or dead or needed rescuing.  Esp. since Scully seemed to like him (recall she agreed to drink champagne with him in the back of his limo).

ItsOver

Quote from: Faustina on February 16, 2016, 03:44:16 PM
I'm a little nonplussed that the storyline from episode 1 of this season seems to have been dropped.  I expected some follow-through on whatever happened to the Alex Jones-type character from that episode.  (Forgetting his name,... "Mahoney"?).  I don't think it would be in character for Mulder and Scully not to persevere and make sure if he was okay, or dead or needed rescuing.  Esp. since Scully seemed to like him (recall she agreed to drink champagne with him in the back of his limo).
Check out the preview.  It shows the AJ-type character on the tube.  It kind of looks like he's "transforming."  :o

Kolchak

Chris Carter has never been good at writing standalone episodes. This has not changed.

Faustina

Quote from: ItsOver on February 16, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
Check out the preview.  It shows the AJ-type character on the tube.  It kind of looks like he's "transforming."  :o

Oh, good!  :)

area51drone

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 16, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
I like the magnifying glass explanation of where some of the critiques are coming from. I, for one, revel in any opportunity not to complain about something, or better yet, to praise something that actually works as it should. We don't often get these opportunities.

Hillary Clinton is a great communicator.

area51drone

Quote from: Kolchak on February 16, 2016, 03:49:16 PM
Chris Carter has never been good at writing standalone episodes. This has not changed.

Hmm.  I don't think I or many others would agree with this.  There were lots of great ones in the past, but maybe they weren't written by Carter? LOL.  The first thing I think of when I think about X-Files isn't the ufos/aliens etc, it's that guy who eats newspapers to make his nest.  That was insanely creepy.    I also fondly remember the one where the guy could call lightning down on people and cause car crashes by flipping the traffic lights.  There were a lot of good ones.   I can only recall one that I really didn't like, and it was that one they did in black and white, but most people disagree with me apparently because I looked it up on imdb and it got something like 9/10, so what do I know.

Even when Doggett/Reyes took over, I was skeptical, but the show was still pretty good.  I think it suffered that they tried to carry Scully on as a third wheel, and obviously they had to figure out a way to get rid of William because he was definitely dragging the show in a direction it didn't need to go.

On a side note, I don't remember that they ever did an episode on bigfoot, which kind of surprises me and I would still like to see.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: area51drone on February 17, 2016, 02:29:51 AM
Hillary Clinton is a great communicator.

Did you post this comment in the wrong place, by any chance?

Jackstar

Quote from: Value Of Pi on February 17, 2016, 02:39:53 AM
Did you post this comment in the wrong place, by any chance?

There's simply not enough hard evidence of that.

Papa Lazarou

I never cared much for the overarching conspiracy storyline, but I always loved the comedy / monster of the week episodes, so the new season has been great for me.



Quote from: MrHippie on February 17, 2016, 02:35:57 PM
Lone Gunmen !
but not enough of 'em!

and Skinner hasn't had anything to do yet to justify being in the opening credits.
I cannot accept that 6 episodes is it and then pfft.

It pains me to say this, but I have been underwhelmed and I went into it with low expectations. The first episode hit a high point for me and I've been pretty critical of the rest. The trip scene was great but the were-lizard dude was equal and opposite. No net gain.

I'm sort of left asking if we really needed this at all. I hope the finale blows the doors off but not holding my breath for that.

There's always Twin Peaks. No, I haven't learned my lesson yet.

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