Art Bell

[jazmunda]

No, Noory has his own lines and phone numbers the network provided when Noory took over the show.
Art Bell had different dedicated phone lines he could still use on his own since they are not the same.

I don't mean the actual phone numbers. I was referring to the name of the lines. Borey used to use East and West of the Rockies and Wild Card and First Time caller lines but on my rare listens these days I occasionally just hear him go to the next caller by their name and city without the name of the line that they called on.

[MV/Liberace!]

If you nslookup artbell.com what address(s) are you getting ?

ns1.rowlandnet.com
ns2.rowlandnet.com

as in keith rowland.

[ziznak]

Everytime I hear this one it's like stuck in my head for days... I love this song and it reminds me of Art sooooo much.
apparently its not allowed to be embedded... fucking copyright shit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_aaA-SeSlQ

[Morgus]

Bell is only a few years older than Noory, and Bell has been in radio his whole life. I'm pretty sure he would have no problem doing it full time, hes used to it. Its not that hard to sit in a chair.

but remember that Art Bell has a back problem and was having problems sitting 4 hours straight back 10 years ago in the year prior to Noory taking over, he had to miss a lot of shows during the week back then and thats when they had to start adding guest  hosts.
Bell didn't have guests hosts during the 90's when his health was better in comparison.
When he returned while Noory was hosting, Art could only do one or two shows a week (on the weekend) for reference.

[Morgus]

I don't mean the actual phone numbers. I was referring to the name of the lines. Borey used to use East and West of the Rockies and Wild Card and First Time caller lines but on my rare listens these days I occasionally just hear him go to the next caller by their name and city without the name of the line that they called on.

For reference, the c2c website has the phone number lines listed under the 'Contact' link:

Call-In Phone Numbers and International Access Codes 

Western US:1-800-618-8255 (toll free)Eastern US:1-800-825-5033 (toll free)First time caller:1-818-501-4721Wild Card line:1-818-501-4109 (anyone can call)Skype users call:george97313Text:1-818-298-6521

[kingotnw]

but remember that Art Bell has a back problem and was having problems sitting 4 hours straight back 10 years ago in the year prior to Noory taking over, he had to miss a lot of shows during the week back then and thats when they had to start adding guest  hosts.
Bell didn't have guests hosts during the 90's when his health was better in comparison.
When he returned while Noory was hosting, Art could only do one or two shows a week (on the weekend) for reference.

I don't know... Looking back, Art was drifting from C2C, and it seems to me the reasons had less to do with his health, and more the state of what was going on behind the scenes. If you put together all of what he has said about C2C over the past year, if you read between the lines you can see a guy who was clearly unhappy with the way things were. I would also go so far as to say he was paid off to leave, hence the non-compete clause. A person who is retiring does not sign a non-compete clause. A person with full intention of going back to work after a period of time does though.

My take... He was either forced out, or was put in a position of needing to select from a series of options he wasn't happy with. My money is more on the first one. Given his cryptic comments a few months back alluding to the fact that he never really wanted to retire in the first place in my opinion is good evidence of that fact.

As far as back problems go... There are few people on this planet who can move that has worse back problems than me. I say that that with statistics proving that to be the case. I am in pain 100% of every day of my life and have been for years on end. There are relatively simple things that can be done to help with the problem f sitting still for long periods of time, but at the end of the day it is what it is, and I suck it up and deal with it. Art is as much of a pro as anyone out there, and I'm sure he feels the same way.

I think he got shafted a while back, around the time that Ramona died, and just played it off as something else.

If he's coming back (and its very clear that he is), he's coming back full time. Anything less wouldn't get the job done.

[LeslieV]

Not getting it here in the Denver area either MV

[YNOT]

I've tried it  out from  Ohio and New York with varying results. So perhaps their just playing around and we're chasing stuff probagating around.
The good news is that Rowland may be involved... Oh well. We'll find out when it happens I guess.

[ItsOver]

I'm guessing Art will have some intro music different from "The Chase," which is unfortunate.  To this day, I can't help thinking about Art every time C2C with the Nooron starts-up with it.   Then reality hits home and the nightmare begins when I hear Jorch's mealy mouth intro about "floating somewhere off the Pacific coast."  :


One very good thing, though, I'm sure Art will never play that freaking UFO Phil song and he won't be playing any OTHER lame song every blasted Friday night.

[morphiaflow]

I'm going to cross-post this because I think it's a good point to consider.

There seems a general consensus among most of us, tacitly or implicitly supported by various comments Art's made (however vague), that we don't care for George Noory and what Coast has become in the decade since Art's ceding the main hosting duties to him. Most of us also seem to agree that Wells is pretty bad, and that we like Ian and Knapp (with Simone being a harmless but largely unknown quantity). I know there are some exceptions and I don't mean to generalize, but--I think those are points the majority of us on this site will agree on, just as there is almost unanimous agreement that we miss Art's voice and are thrilled at the notion of him taking to the airwaves once again. I know that at the very least, those are MY feelings.

Having said that, I think there might be a little too much focus on the "competitive" angle, ie, "Noory/Premiere better duck, Art's coming to take him DOWN!" That's a paraphrase, but it encapsulates the tone of a lot of the sentiment. And certainly, it's a sentiment I sympathize with.

That said...how do we know that's what Art actually wants to do?

Granted...he's made it clear he's not happy with Premiere; with what Coast has morphed into; and (subtly) with the job that Noory has done. And there are countless hints of double-dealings, backstabbings, betrayals et al on behalf of those entities towards Art that we haven't even begun to realize. (His threat to "tell all" or "tell his side of the story about his so-called retirements" is pretty telling in itself, even though he has yet to actually do it.)

Even so, Art has said he "doesn't wish to destroy what he created, or what's left of it". That implies--and I've made this point before--he's confident that he COULD destroy it if he wished. And that may well be part of what's motivating him to do something now that he is legally free to do so.

That said...I doubt "revenge" is, or should be, Art's sole motivation in coming back. I hope it's not even a primary motivation. I really hope he's doing it because radio is in his blood and he misses it, and the interaction with guests and callers, the ability to share his views on life, the universe and everything, etc.

Now, if in the process of that, Noory's Coast happens to take a hit to its ratings or affiliate count...I'm sure he wouldn't lose too much sleep over that, nor would any of us. (Though I suspect if Coast ever finally folded he would weep for its end, since it was his baby to begin with, regardless of what it became.)

(It might also be noted that perhaps Noory and the Coast team have done all they can in the last few years to shore up affiliates, pad ratings and create the notion that they ARE (as I called them in a different post) an unstoppable juggernaut...because they knew the day would come when they WOULD have to contend with a challenge from Art Bell on a competing network.)

Ultimately though, whatever happens to Coast itself, Art is an adult and a professional, and I suspect and hope that while ratings and competition are going to be important factors in any new endeavor, he's not going into this with a Noory-sized chip on his shoulder or a single-minded determination to exterminate Noory's show at all costs. I hope he just wants to create really good radio again. He knows what he's created, what he's capable of, he's confident in his abilities, and he doesn't have anything to prove, to himself or to us. And as much as we all may chuckle over the effect it may have on Noory's Coast, and create wish-fulfillment JPEGS and videos illustrating those fantasies in graphic detail--I guess I just find the appearance of everyone lusting for Noory's blood to be slightly disturbing, not least because I  share a degree of that bloodlust myself. So  I hope we can all just focus on sending our energy towards Art making his show as great as it can possibly be.

And if we do that, I suspect, Noory's Coast will become increasingly irrelevant regardless. Art has the goods, and if he brings them to the marketplace--truth will out. Hold up a clean glass and a dirty glass, and let people decide for themselves. Success, even triumph, in the marketplace will be vindication enough for Art, and should be so for those of us who support and believe in him.

[CrabbyOld Bat]

Had to get this in before work, lest I be thinking about it all day. Myself, count me out due to my fears of Premiere ninja men stalking me from my bushes, but has anyone sent that douchebag Noory a fastblast giving him shit about the recent status of Art Bell?

I've sent multiple FastBlasts, a couple of emails (to both Snorge and Tom) and even a couple of text messages about Art's possible return. To no one's surprise, I've never received a response to any of them. But I still enjoy sending them just to annoy Snorge, Tom or whoever at PremRat reads them. I figure one way or another my comments make their way to Snorge so mission accomplished.

A true hater hates. What can I say? I can't help myself.

[morphiaflow]

I'm going to cross-post this because I think it's a good point to consider.

There seems a general consensus among most of us, tacitly or implicitly supported by various comments Art's made (however vague), that we don't care for George Noory and what Coast has become in the decade since Art's ceding the main hosting duties to him. Most of us also seem to agree that Wells is pretty bad, and that we like Ian and Knapp (with Simone being a harmless but largely unknown quantity). I know there are some exceptions and I don't mean to generalize, but--I think those are points the majority of us on this site will agree on, just as there is almost unanimous agreement that we miss Art's voice and are thrilled at the notion of him taking to the airwaves once again. I know that at the very least, those are MY feelings.

Having said that, I think there might be a little too much focus on the "competitive" angle, ie, "Noory/Premiere better duck, Art's coming to take him DOWN!" That's a paraphrase, but it encapsulates the tone of a lot of the sentiment. And certainly, it's a sentiment I sympathize with.

That said...how do we know that's what Art actually wants to do?

Granted...he's made it clear he's not happy with Premiere; with what Coast has morphed into; and (subtly) with the job that Noory has done. And there are countless hints of double-dealings, backstabbings, betrayals et al on behalf of those entities towards Art that we haven't even begun to realize. (His threat to "tell all" or "tell his side of the story about his so-called retirements" is pretty telling in itself, even though he has yet to actually do it.)

Even so, Art has said he "doesn't wish to destroy what he created, or what's left of it". That implies--and I've made this point before--he's confident that he COULD destroy it if he wished. And that may well be part of what's motivating him to do something now that he is legally free to do so.

That said...I doubt "revenge" is, or should be, Art's sole motivation in coming back. I hope it's not even a primary motivation. I really hope he's doing it because radio is in his blood and he misses it, and the interaction with guests and callers, the ability to share his views on life, the universe and everything, etc.

Now, if in the process of that, Noory's Coast happens to take a hit to its ratings or affiliate count...I'm sure he wouldn't lose too much sleep over that, nor would any of us. (Though I suspect if Coast ever finally folded he would weep for its end, since it was his baby to begin with, regardless of what it became.)

(It might also be noted that perhaps Noory and the Coast team have done all they can in the last few years to shore up affiliates, pad ratings and create the notion that they ARE (as I called them in a different post) an unstoppable juggernaut...because they knew the day would come when they WOULD have to contend with a challenge from Art Bell on a competing network.)

Ultimately though, whatever happens to Coast itself, Art is an adult and a professional, and I suspect and hope that while ratings and competition are going to be important factors in any new endeavor, he's not going into this with a Noory-sized chip on his shoulder or a single-minded determination to exterminate Noory's show at all costs. I hope he just wants to create really good radio again. He knows what he's created, what he's capable of, he's confident in his abilities, and he doesn't have anything to prove, to himself or to us. And as much as we all may chuckle over the effect it may have on Noory's Coast, and create wish-fulfillment JPEGS and videos illustrating those fantasies in graphic detail--I guess I just find the appearance of everyone lusting for Noory's blood to be slightly disturbing, not least because I  share a degree of that bloodlust myself. So  I hope we can all just focus on sending our energy towards Art making his show as great as it can possibly be.

And if we do that, I suspect, Noory's Coast will become increasingly irrelevant regardless. Art has the goods, and if he brings them to the marketplace--truth will out. Hold up a clean glass and a dirty glass, and let people decide for themselves. Success, even triumph, in the marketplace will be vindication enough for Art, and should be so for those of us who support and believe in him.

[MV/Liberace!]

Not getting it here in the Denver area either MV

how are you checking?

[CrabbyOld Bat]

In short, barring some behind the scenes exclusivity arrangement, I think Art COULD use that theme--it's just a question of if he would WANT to, and how much flack Premiere would give him over it.

I doubt Art would want to use it again. It's been tainted by a Snoorific stench. I believe Art would want a fresh start and clean cut from the current version of C2C.

However, I would love to see Art's fans swamp C2C with requests to stop using all of Art's most familiar old bumper music if Art does return to radio. That is, not just the Midnight Express theme song by Chase, but also the songs by Matisse and Cusco that Art helped make famous.

I'm sure Snorge would be thrilled to record his renditions of Elvis or Sinatra tunes to be used as the intro and closing numbers.  :

[morphiaflow]

I'm sure Snorge would be thrilled to record his renditions of Elvis or Sinatra tunes to be used as the intro and closing numbers.  :

That would make everyone listening need therapy.

Small correction, just a nitpick (sorry!)--the Midnight Express theme isn't BY Chase; it's actually CALLED "The Chase" and it's by Giorgio Moroder. Sorry....years of working at record stores (when that meant something...)

[CrabbyOld Bat]

Small correction, just a nitpick (sorry!)--the Midnight Express theme isn't BY Chase; it's actually CALLED "The Chase" and it's by Giorgio Moroder. Sorry....years of working at record stores (when that meant something...)

Oops, I knew that! Thanks for correcting me. It was simple hurried carelessness on my part.  I actually have the recording!

[General Johnson Jameson]

Morphiaflow, it isn't 100% primary bloodlust I don't think. At least not focused on one man for replacing a man that we loved. It's a bit deeper. For instance, say with me, would be like having a group of people coming up to me each day and giving me a platter full of bullshit sandwiches, telling me to fill up and enjoy the good food and wonderful nutrition. But inside I know that I am being lied to cuz these sandwiches taste like bullshit and someone is forcing other people to accept these lies.

It's fully expected of me to run around to all of my friends, whom are starving btw, and tell them how I am so full and the meal I had was so good and nothing could be more perfect. In reality though, someone just forced me to eat a whole tray of bullshit sandwiches while trying to make me think it were steak on a hoagie.

After having to put up with bullshit sandwiches for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, along with the controllers telling me how joyous of a marvel these bullshit sandwiches are not only in taste, but in nutrition for, what, a decade? It's time for them to eat the bullshit sandwiches now 

Do you remember listening to a clip from youtube morphiaflow dealing with Art talking to another ham radio operator? The subject was the state of the show and it was obvious that Art was having to spit out bullshit sandwiches from the remarks he made. I will go try to find this video after my post. Actually, I've rambled enough on bullshit sandwiches so I'll do it now. I think you all understand me though  I'll come back here with it if I am successful.

[General Johnson Jameson]

Art Bell Talks About George Noory On His HAM Radio

[morphiaflow]

Thanks for the input, General, and I completely get the bullshit sandwich metaphor. I agree with it even, and yes I know that clip well. What Art's saying, and what he's not letting himself say. I can read (or listen!) between the lines. And again I'm not saying there's not an element of "Fuck Noory, let's bury him" or even that there shouldn't be. I would just rather see the focus be on getting a new show up and running and making it huge rather than just repeating the "Noory Sucks!" refrain. We KNOW he sucks. ART knows he sucks. But merely by doing a great and successful show, the suckage will be that much more apparent. I suppose I'm appealing to people to consider the high road, at least, even if they don't take it. That's all.

Now having said that, if Art himself gets on the air, or takes to a blog, and rips into Noory, Premiere, and Latter-Day-Coast, then it's open season and all bets are off.

[Disheartened]

I'm going to cross-post this because I think it's a good point to consider.

There seems a general consensus among most of us, tacitly or implicitly supported by various comments Art's made (however vague), that we don't care for George Noory and what Coast has become in the decade since Art's ceding the main hosting duties to him. Most of us also seem to agree that Wells is pretty bad, and that we like Ian and Knapp (with Simone being a harmless but largely unknown quantity). I know there are some exceptions and I don't mean to generalize, but--I think those are points the majority of us on this site will agree on, just as there is almost unanimous agreement that we miss Art's voice and are thrilled at the notion of him taking to the airwaves once again. I know that at the very least, those are MY feelings.

Having said that, I think there might be a little too much focus on the "competitive" angle, ie, "Noory/Premiere better duck, Art's coming to take him DOWN!" That's a paraphrase, but it encapsulates the tone of a lot of the sentiment. And certainly, it's a sentiment I sympathize with.

That said...how do we know that's what Art actually wants to do?

Granted...he's made it clear he's not happy with Premiere; with what Coast has morphed into; and (subtly) with the job that Noory has done. And there are countless hints of double-dealings, backstabbings, betrayals et al on behalf of those entities towards Art that we haven't even begun to realize. (His threat to "tell all" or "tell his side of the story about his so-called retirements" is pretty telling in itself, even though he has yet to actually do it.)

Even so, Art has said he "doesn't wish to destroy what he created, or what's left of it". That implies--and I've made this point before--he's confident that he COULD destroy it if he wished. And that may well be part of what's motivating him to do something now that he is legally free to do so.

That said...I doubt "revenge" is, or should be, Art's sole motivation in coming back. I hope it's not even a primary motivation. I really hope he's doing it because radio is in his blood and he misses it, and the interaction with guests and callers, the ability to share his views on life, the universe and everything, etc.

Now, if in the process of that, Noory's Coast happens to take a hit to its ratings or affiliate count...I'm sure he wouldn't lose too much sleep over that, nor would any of us. (Though I suspect if Coast ever finally folded he would weep for its end, since it was his baby to begin with, regardless of what it became.)

(It might also be noted that perhaps Noory and the Coast team have done all they can in the last few years to shore up affiliates, pad ratings and create the notion that they ARE (as I called them in a different post) an unstoppable juggernaut...because they knew the day would come when they WOULD have to contend with a challenge from Art Bell on a competing network.)

Ultimately though, whatever happens to Coast itself, Art is an adult and a professional, and I suspect and hope that while ratings and competition are going to be important factors in any new endeavor, he's not going into this with a Noory-sized chip on his shoulder or a single-minded determination to exterminate Noory's show at all costs. I hope he just wants to create really good radio again. He knows what he's created, what he's capable of, he's confident in his abilities, and he doesn't have anything to prove, to himself or to us. And as much as we all may chuckle over the effect it may have on Noory's Coast, and create wish-fulfillment JPEGS and videos illustrating those fantasies in graphic detail--I guess I just find the appearance of everyone lusting for Noory's blood to be slightly disturbing, not least because I  share a degree of that bloodlust myself. So  I hope we can all just focus on sending our energy towards Art making his show as great as it can possibly be.

And if we do that, I suspect, Noory's Coast will become increasingly irrelevant regardless. Art has the goods, and if he brings them to the marketplace--truth will out. Hold up a clean glass and a dirty glass, and let people decide for themselves. Success, even triumph, in the marketplace will be vindication enough for Art, and should be so for those of us who support and believe in him.

Well said. 

[Disheartened]

I do not wish for George's demise.

I wish for Art's success.

The rest will take care of itself.

[morphiaflow]

I do not wish for George's demise.

I wish for Art's success.

The rest will take care of itself.

Thank you disheartened. You summed up my thousands words and dozen paragraphs in 3 lines.

[General Johnson Jameson]

Ok, I watched the video this time instead of listening and at the bottom...CoastGab! Oh sweet irony

[General Johnson Jameson]

I do not wish for George's demise.

I wish for Art's success.

The rest will take care of itself.

I don't want the man to die for crying out loud. Nobody has ever said that here. I don't even want him to lose his show. It should always be on the airwaves with him at the mic, forever. Even an idiot savant deserves his day.

[morphiaflow]

oh I don't think anyone wishes actual physical harm upon GN or anyone else involved with PRN or C2C. I certainly took demise in a metaphorical, on-the-job sense. I don't wish harm on anyone, and even if I did--GN is guilty of bad radio, but I hope no one thinks that's a reason for anything truly bad to happen to him! (I feel this ground has been covered in the past when people have gotten really vitriolic in their anti-GN sentiments.)

[Laurakinch]

This was posted by someone on the "Quits" thread, but it absolutely bears repeating here. Thanks to the OP--this is one of the most brilliant and succinct summations of Art Bell's history..."

http://www.theawl.com/2013/01/is-art-bell-coming-back-to-live-radio

There is also a huge amount of bullshit and insults directed at Art and his c2c show. The writer of this piece is a hack and Art would be furious if he saw it.

[General Johnson Jameson]

It has. If Noory has his ninjamen at battlestations there in their cubicles, who knows what kind of trollness we could expect if Art is indeed returning.

[morphiaflow]

The writer is being a writer, and states his opinion/perception. Ultimately I think it is a piece that vindicates Art far more than it buries him.

[morphiaflow]

Yes, that IS something I do believe, and expect. Art is a professional and I highly doubt he would resort to such things. I can't say I feel the same about GN.

[PB the Deplorable]

... That said...I doubt "revenge" is, or should be, Art's sole motivation in coming back. I hope it's not even a primary motivation. I really hope he's doing it because radio is in his blood and he misses it, and the interaction with guests and callers, the ability to share his views on life, the universe and everything, etc...

I would be shocked if this were not the case.  Art is a professional and my take is he just wants to do great radio again on his terms.


The rest of us love to bitch about Noory and kick him around - I know I do - but Art isn't doing that and he won't be on any new show.  I'm guessing he wouldn't mind seeing George fall flat on his face, but I doubt we'd hear much about it. 


Perhaps he might let a few callers get a sentence or two out, or even put something in the next book.  He may even do a short segment - one time - where he brings everyone up to date broadly, but it would be understated and that would be about the extent of it.