Art Bell

[jazmunda]

Back in April, Art was dumped from the Classic Shows lineup on the Coast to Coast AM website (http://coastgab.com/index.php/topic,3094.0.html). These "classic" shows are from 2006, 2007 and sometimes 2008 so they are hardly classic. However I was collecting these shows because they had the bumper music which my copies originally downloaded from the C2CAM website at airtime did not contain the bumper music due to copyright issues. These shows just never sounded as good without the bumper music which adds a bit of atmosphere.

At the time that Art was dumped from the classic lineup I thought this was a bit of a slap in the face to the man who created the show. I also thought it was a stupid decision as having Art shows on there would entice people to buy a subscription to get that content.

Now Art is back on the classic shows lineup and has been for the past 3 weeks. This coincides nicely with Art's attempts to have Somewhere In Time removed from the C2CAM lineup. Seems like another slap in the face to Art from the boys at Prem Radio. Well played.

[Sardondi]

This might be tied in with some recent cryptic comments Art made on FB (redundant - what other kind does Art make?), in which he made a reference to things possibly changing, and for everyone to stand by, etc.

[ziznak]

I want Art to become the true "Noory tosser."  If he's back in the US he can easily start up his own little show... shit even if it was a podcast it would kick the current c2c's ass and steal most of the audience... premrats ratings would plunge!! He could do some serious damage if he wanted to.

[coaster]

I don't think Art Bell even knows what Art Bell wants to do. His facebook comments clearly show hes still undecided on whats coming up next.

[Sardondi]

Art's bored.

[WOTR]

Art's bored.

So am I...  If I had thousands of people hanging on my every word I think I might be tempted to have a little fun.  As it stands, I do not even have a FB account.  Nobody hangs on my every word, waits for my announcements nor cares where I might reside...

[dumbanddumber]

shortly before Art "retired" he hosted richard hoagland on the show about bees or something. They had a few minutes conversation off the topic and those few minutes were erased from the official C2C archive. Maybe that is the key.

[MV/Liberace!]

shortly before Art "retired" he hosted richard hoagland on the show about bees or something. They had a few minutes conversation off the topic and those few minutes were erased from the official C2C archive. Maybe that is the key.

what was erased, and what is the key to what?  i'm not clear.

[Ipokesmot]

"Somewhere In Time" is still on luckily. 

How long before Art breaks the big secret that Noory is a Lebanese transgendered goat boy?

[Corona Kitty]

So this pending lawsuit, cements any chance of art coming back.

[Sardondi]

So this pending lawsuit, cements any chance of art coming back.

Okay, I suppose saying that there is "chance of (A)rt coming back" is, while not really what we'd call likely, technically within the realm of imagination. So saying that there's a chance of Art coming back is the equivalent of saying there's "a chance" John Goodman will be named the spokesman for Weight Watchers: conceivable, but in reality next to impossible.

[anorexorcist]

There's a phrase that fits this show now, except when Knapp is there... He who is all things to all people is nothing to everyone...

I think that the shows owners realized the show was a cash cow, even thought is was making certain people upset, so they brought in Noory to homogenize things, but keep raking in the dough....

I agree with this totally and completely. I dont hate George Noory AT ALL, he's just too nice for me to hate - but this is what makes him a shitty host. He tries to be everything to everyone. He's unopinionated, too friendly to ask "juicy" questions... Basically he is safe. I dont think hes a bad person, he just isnt cut out for this.

[ziznak]

I don't hate Noory... he just DISGUSTS me.  His "homo"-genization has most Art fans facepalming through the whole show if they dare to tune in.  He's not a host to me he's more like a piece of furniture thats just there for the guest to sit on.  Except George is the squeaky chair that keeps interrupting with needless noise.

[BigDave]

I know that everybody has different tastes (heck, there are people who think that Noory does a bang-up job.)  Have you toured the Wells thread lately?  I am not certain that you would find much support for replacing Noory with Wells.

In my estimation Wells ranks just one half of one notch lower than Noory.  I would actually sooner listen to Noory than Wells (at least that is what I say tonight- I reserve to swap the positions of the above mentioned hosts without notice.)

I don't have any problem with George and listen to Him a lot. I just think He wind up being replaced as the main host on C2C within the next few years

[Sardondi]

Oh goodie, another balanced and thoughtful retort, which is perfectly "in kind" and in keeping with the context of the original.

[WOTR]

Oh goodie, another balanced and thoughtful retort, which is perfectly "in kind" and in keeping with the context of the original.

I was busy attempting to piece together and decipher the response when I glanced at the response below it and realized that there is no real point in continuing to expend effort.  Thanks for the chuckle...

[Scully]

Can I really be the only "leftie Coastgabber" to have seen Art's Monday night postings on Facebook?  I know I'm not the only Coastgabber who left their mark on the debacle that followed.  First post said:

"Romney just said 47% of Americans pay no tax and are not responsible people including people on Social Security. I paid a hell of a lot into S.S. What a jerk! S.S. is not Welfare."

In response to some immediate cognitive dissonance, Art quickly replied:

"The context of what Romney said could not be more clear, half of ALL Americans including those on S.S. are not taking responsibility for their lives and are "victims". It's crap really made me angry. I paid more than I will ever recover." 

Have we grown so weary of the words of our fallen idol that we fail to note his infrequent pearls? 

[MV/Liberace!]

Can I really be the only "leftie Coastgabber" to have seen Art's Monday night postings on Facebook?  I know I'm not the only Coastgabber who left their mark on the debacle that followed.  First post said:

"Romney just said 47% of Americans pay no tax and are not responsible people including people on Social Security. I paid a hell of a lot into S.S. What a jerk! S.S. is not Welfare."

In response to some immediate cognitive dissonance, Art quickly replied:

"The context of what Romney said could not be more clear, half of ALL Americans including those on S.S. are not taking responsibility for their lives and are "victims". It's crap really made me angry. I paid more than I will ever recover." 

Have we grown so weary of the words of our fallen idol that we fail to note his infrequent pearls? 

thx for posting this.  lots of us are not facebook users, so we'd never see this otherwise.

[Falkie2013]

Can I really be the only "leftie Coastgabber" to have seen Art's Monday night postings on Facebook?  I know I'm not the only Coastgabber who left their mark on the debacle that followed.  First post said:

"Romney just said 47% of Americans pay no tax and are not responsible people including people on Social Security. I paid a hell of a lot into S.S. What a jerk! S.S. is not Welfare."

In response to some immediate cognitive dissonance, Art quickly replied:

"The context of what Romney said could not be more clear, half of ALL Americans including those on S.S. are not taking responsibility for their lives and are "victims". It's crap really made me angry. I paid more than I will ever recover." 

Have we grown so weary of the words of our fallen idol that we fail to note his infrequent pearls? 

I think what Romney was trying to say is that we have far too many people getting benefits who are not paying into the system.


SS has always been a ponzi scheme.

But ... they also put deliberate curbs to ensure YOU never get off.

Like.

You can't have more than 2 K in the bank. A major car repair ( and many on disability and others drive really old cars ).

No life insurance

No property or land

No dividend income

No interest income

The income limit has NOT been raised since 1988 despite inflation and costs soaring since then.

IF we had jobs out there to try to get, a lot of the people who recently got on disability would be working.

I recently looked on line for the type of job I used to do before I became ill 5 years ago.

There were all of TWO jobs on line.

When I worked before this mess we're in, there were dozens available.

Romney's comments were taken out of context. Even he said so given that it was not the complete soundbite of what he said and he commented on it yesterday.

I have numerous physical ailments and injuries and can never work full time again.

Due to my bad knee which swells up and was never repaired after it was fractured 10 years ago, I can no longer stand on it for long periods of time.

But I could work part time, if there were a job where I could sit.

And even with my limited sources of income, I still sent money and postage stamps to the Romney campaign.

Obama's had 4 years to create jobs. He already admitted in the speech released yesterday he's a redistributionist and as far as I ( and others ) are concerned, he's a Communist who only cares about getting re-elected so he can finish off this country.

Already there are posts that Obama is going to have a false assassination attempt so he can suspend the election.

We heard that for months by the liberals who said George Bush was going to do that.

He didn't.

But Obama thinks he's some kind of GOD or King and is arrogant enough to do so.

[BobGrau]

Oh great. Politics infects another thread.

[PB the Deplorable]

... I paid a hell of a lot into S.S. What a jerk! S.S. is not Welfare."...

Of course SS is welfare.  Art's generation made the decision to fund the previous generations retirement.  Thru a government Ponzi scheme.  Now they expect us to fund theirs.

... Have we grown so weary of the words of our fallen idol that we fail to note his infrequent pearls? 

Art is a self proclaimed Libertarian.  He fell for Obamamania last time.  Now it's Romney he mad at?  I'm starting to wonder if the Libertarians know what it is they claim to belive in.

[Juan]

It wasn't Art's generation that made the decision - it was the World War I generation that was in power with Roosevelt.  Art wasn't born until about 10-years after SS was implemented.  Then the WWII generation, under Lyndon Johnson, decided to spend the "trust fund."  Those folks were also older than Art.

[MV/Liberace!]

hey guys... could we please keep politics in the politics forum?  coastgab is pretty relaxed in terms of who talks about what and where, but politics is a different kind of animal that needs to be contained.

[ziznak]

hey guys... could we please keep politics in the politics forum?  coastgab is pretty relaxed in terms of who talks about what and where, but politics is a different kind of animal that needs to be contained.

the mighty foot has landed...

[b_dubb]

Noory is always going on about "haters". Did Art have the same problem? Ever? With the anti-fans?

[Eddie Coyle]

Noory is always going on about "haters". Did Art have the same problem? Ever? With the anti-fans?

After 2004, absolutely. Art's views on 9/11 and climate change would lead to a lot of friction with his base. His support for Obama was another issue that came up...you could hear Art's annoyance/frustration on those rare appearances the last few years.

[Lunger]

Yeah, we tend to put Art on a pedestal, when he could have his head every bit as far up his fundament as Noory. We forget AB could engage in some unconscionable fear-mongering and rushing-to-judgment himself. Y2K is a perfect example, and he brooked no disputes of the theory. He is solely responsible for the travesty known as Richard C. Hoagland. Then there's "The Quickening", in which something  earth-shattering was always due to happen in a year or two, which recently hit its 20th Anniversary. Also there's "Spiricom", aka "Frank's Box", aka "ghost box", or whatever that thing was that the inventor made by running white noise through a tuner while seeking AM frequencies. As I recall AB bought that one hook, line and sinker, despite the fact the theory and process were secret and the results irreplicable unless run by the inventor after having been set up at a place of his choosing.

Art, like everyone, is flawed. He has his biases and blindspots. It's clear he's manipulative. He occasionally lurks at places like this to hear how wonderful he is. But he's still a better host than Noory can ever be.

This is true.  I always though that Art , on-the-air Art, was a character he played with the express purpose of growing the show....if you get my meaning.  I think from the beginning his plan was to grow the show that then sell it to the highest bidder.

I think he did a good job.  I still listen to Art almost everyday.  He makes for good radio.

[Morgus]

Noory is always going on about "haters". Did Art have the same problem? Ever? With the anti-fans?

Not the same, but Art had a lot of disappointers after his frequent retirements and need for lot of fill-in hosts, that eventually resulted in Noory taking over.
But Noory had his 'hater's from the very start...

[McPhallus]

Noory is always going on about "haters". Did Art have the same problem? Ever? With the anti-fans?

Art's haters seemed to focus on the subject matter of the show, rather than his skills as a host. 

Nobody's most virulent haters are a different breed.... They seem fond of the subject matter, which is partly what fuels their hatred of George and premier over the mangling of interviews and commercialization of the show.

[ziznak]

Art's haters seemed to focus on the subject matter of the show, rather than his skills as a host. 

Nobody's most virulent haters are a different breed.... They seem fond of the subject matter, which is partly what fuels their hatred of George and premier over the mangling of interviews and commercialization of the show.

nailed it...
hehe was the use of "nobody's" a spellcheck thing or did you really mean to call him that?