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George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

Started by MV/Liberace!, April 06, 2008, 12:23:02 AM

Can Noory pronounce anything correctly?

No
No

Jocko Johnson

Dave...so where do you see the next five years going...not next year the next five?

Oh OK when you asked for the next 5 I thought you meant next year...you know the next one year....thx for clearing that up you jerk!   What an idiot!!!!!!

Falkie2013

Quote from: Jocko Johnson on November 20, 2013, 11:42:41 PM
Dave...so where do you see the next five years going...not next year the next five?

Oh OK when you asked for the next 5 I thought you meant next year...you know the next one year....thx for clearing that up you jerk!   What an idiot!!!!!!

Dave thought he was asking about the next 5 minutes.
Or seconds.

Jocko Johnson

What a stinking ball sack he is....good nite...I gotta go can't  take it and the ass clown callers...If Art thought his calls were bad...ART listen to this shit!!! What a freaking nitemare!

Falkie2013

Quote from: Jocko Johnson on November 20, 2013, 11:48:52 PM
What a stinking ball sack he is....good nite...I gotta go can't  take it and the ass clown callers...If Art thought his calls were bad...ART listen to this shit!!! What a freaking nitemare!

Is it too late to make you an LAPD reserve officer and you fly to St. Louis and arrest Noory on the air ?

Jocko Johnson

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 20, 2013, 11:50:28 PM
Is it too late to make you an LAPD reserve officer and you fly to St. Louis and arrest Noory on the air ?
I don't need no stinking badges!

Falkie2013

Time to arrest Noory on a 412 too.

Overacting.

With apologies to Stan Freberg.

My gf and I were listening to that bit on the way home last  night. She'd never heard St. George and the Dragonet before.

Speaking of crime, it just came on the air on KFBK that Placer County Sherriff's are looking for a burglar who broke into a widows house and stole 2 urns containing the ashes of her husband and her cat.
Nothing else was stolen.
Surprised she didn't have both of them stuffed instead of cremating them.

http://www.bearcat1.com/radioca.htm

Charge $noory with a 10-91, too.

Unneccessary use of radio.

Jocko Johnson

XM channel 82 I listen to it all the time...Radio Classics its worth the price of the subscription

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Seraphim27 on November 20, 2013, 11:16:39 PM
I caught that commentary as well and thought, "Hey George! You should do that more often!" Maybe it's because he's talking to an intelligent female.

That aside, I have hellish insomnia. I thought for sure that this topic and the guest's kind of NPA-ish radio voice would take care of that in about five minutes. Yet here I am, wide awake and feeling slightly fried.

I'm tempted to recommend my most recent book. That one could put anyone to sleep. That said, I have good luck with reading my kindle. Just pick a dry read and go with it. Usually helps me sleep within a half hour. Failing that, a good old shot of whiskey works.

zeebo

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 20, 2013, 11:42:01 PM
Get a warrant and issue an APB for a 10-30, illegal use of radio.

" Callling all cars. Be on the lookout for suspect $noorge $noory. Identifying marks. Walrus mustache, bad toupe, sings Elvis songs and has inability to say the word " ARISTOCRACY ". "

"Be aware the suspect is armed with blazing hot pizza rolls"

Falkie2013

Quote from: zeebo on November 21, 2013, 12:12:23 AM

"Be aware the suspect is armed with blazing hot pizza rolls"

" AND a live microphone. "

Morgus

Noory asked James Van Pragh about the death of psychic Sylvia Browne, and mentioned he banned her from c2c years ago.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: zeebo on November 20, 2013, 11:19:26 PM
It does seem kinda random to me, I guess that's why I used to be able to listen to him more.  Sometimes he'll seem fairly lucid and on-point, other times strangely detached and off-track from the topic.  Sometimes he seems genuinely interested in paranormal topics, other times he seems to just sleepwalk through it as it's part of the job.  Sometimes he seems empathetic and able to connect emotionally e.g. to callers, other times he's bored and remote and even impolite. 

I can't figure the guy out, it's like he just bounces around alot.  I think he likes being an on-air personality and all that comes with it, but he too often just seems disconnected either from laziness, or boredom, or who-knows-what.  I think he'd be much more suited to something with less responsibility and less preperation like spinning oldies on the solid gold hour or hosting some reality talent show.

I don't think it's laziness, per se. I think it's too much on the plate. We know he does the radio show, the internet TV show, public appearances, collaborative books, travel all over the place, posts here, etc. I think it can be reasonably established that he's productive. I think the problem is more likely to be that the quality of all suffers when you try to do too much.

I don't blame him. He's in his 60's, and having his moment in the sun. When that happens, you make as much money from it as you possibly can WHILE you can or you're a fool. Especially in that industry where most people in it are moving city to city desperate to take whatever they can to make a living on air in a climate where their job has little security.

But in the end I think he can't act. There are some boring ass topics in the paranormal. There are also some hyper-interesting ones. George knows what his audience wants to hear, so he must cater to them. He lost his Art Bell audience, as this forum illustrates, so he's after the more fluffy part of the genre with the psychics and numerology and bullcrap. The people that spend millions on horoscopes in the grocery stores type of thing. That's certainly lucrative, and if he didn't cater to them I'm sure Premiere would be pissed. But with that he pisses us off.

But, we're no longer what pays the bills. Art lost his base quickly. He shouldn't have. We're either millions of people so cheap that we won't spring for SXM, or we are not numbered in the millions.

And, there you go. George can't just pick topics that interest him specifically. He has to mix in other things, and he's guilty of appearing disinterested in those things. Art had a different thing, he was a 90's phenomenon, along with the X-Files and the sentiment of those times and could do things differently. I loved his show for that, but I realize now that the climate of the times is different. We're relics. I hope Art can bring that vibe back, oh god do I wish people were more distrustful of government like we were in the 90's, but that's something only Art can do. George can't afford to.

SciFiAuthor

I DO blame him for bad behavior. Oates was wrong, wrong, wrong.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 21, 2013, 12:34:12 AM
I don't think it's laziness, per se. I think it's too much on the plate. We know he does the radio show, the internet TV show, public appearances, collaborative books, travel all over the place, posts here, etc. I think it can be reasonably established that he's productive. I think the problem is more likely to be that the quality of all suffers when you try to do too much...\



Maybe your theory would be valid if George had started out well and declined over the years as he was adding these different activities.  But George wasn't a very good host when he started, or even after he'd been at it for awhile.  He didn't have all those other things going on back then.

How much effort is it to have someone else write a book and put his name on it?  Of fly to Colorado and do a pod TV cast with no more show prep that he does for Coast?  Or fly off to a convention, sing a few songs, tell a few jokes, do a little Q & A and shake a few hands? 

I don't think any of that takes much advance work by him personally - he has an agent and admins to do much of it, and what little of it there is he can do during the day at PremRat when he should be preparing for the radio show.


When all is said and done, he sucks at hosting a radio show.  On top of that he doesn't seen to put in any effort to get better.  And too often he doesn't even pretend to be interested.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 21, 2013, 01:00:02 AM


Maybe your theory would be valid if George had started out well and declined over the years as he was adding these different activities.  But George wasn't a very good host when he started, or even after he'd been at it for awhile.  He didn't have all those other things going on back then.

How much effort is it to have someone else write a book and put his name on it?  Of fly to Colorado and do a pod TV cast with no more show prep that he does for Coast?  Or fly off to a convention, sing a few songs, tell a few jokes, do a little Q & A and shake a few hands? 

I don't think any of that takes much advance work by him personally - he has an agent and admins to do much of it, and what little of it there is he can do during the day at PremRat when he should be preparing for the radio show.


When all is said and done, he sucks at hosting a radio show.  On top of that he doesn't seen to put in any effort to get better.  And too often he doesn't even pretend to be interested.

Not to my memory. He was much welcomed after Siegal and did a fine job replacing him before declining. He was fine as the The Nighthawk here in St. Louis and had a dedicated fan base as a local broadcaster, one that he built very rapidly.

I'll tell you hard it is to write a book with someone else's help. It's about 50 percent as intensive as writing it yourself, especially for a book like Worker in the Light. To write something biographical for someone would require a huge synopsis of their life that only they can provide, constant contact, and a huge amount of hours on the part of the subject. Even if it's entirely a fabrication to make them look good, it takes even more time. You still have to make it satisfactory to them, which requires revision after revision, submission after submission, until you finally get it right. Well, I write books for a living and it takes me about 6 hours per day for about six months to write an 80,000 word novel. Halve that and you still have significant time invested. Don't believe me? I'll write four paragraphs for you about your life in a PM. Wait until you see what I have to ask just to compose four paragraphs and what you have to do to provide it. Challenge open.

Try a convention. A few hours of Q and A and travel equates in reality to many hours. Fly from LA to Toronto and tell me how long that takes. Then travel to and from the airport. Then the event itself. And then back home. Tell me what condition you're in after that. Then we can talk about how easy it is. What it really is an entirely blown day just for a few hours of public contact.

I have no idea what it takes to tape a TV show. It's probably longer than the air time.

Agents, LOL. Um, no. Agents tell you what to do and remind you that you do not pay them directly, instead they take a percentage of the haul. They are a vested party, not a service. I get a daily contact from one and it's never something about them doing something meaningful for me, rather it's a nicely-worded "to do" list. As far as management, I have no idea if Noory's on that level or not. I would suspect Tommy does it, but I really don't know and I have no idea how much effort or what goes on there.

Now a cook book, that's low-intensity, but I doubt it was George's idea. That's a publisher using George's name to make money. It's telling by how little George is promoting it on air.

He asked you for tips in this thread on how to improve and said multiple times that he's willing to listen to constructive criticism. He showed that he was reactive on air. It was well discussed. You were here. I was here. There was much talk at that time just a few months ago about George doing things on air related to this board. I personally got him to ask a question on air simply by not being a flagrant asshole to him when I suggested it. How the fuck much did you need to indicate to you that the guy was listening and reacting?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It's a different thing to observe, satirize and heckle that someone sucks, and to WANT someone to suck. If you WANT George to Suck, then you're really pissed off at Art. You, Paper, WANT George to suck. It's misguided.

SciFiAuthor

George just demonstrated knowledge of von Praagh with his "Daisy Dukes" joke.

Falkie2013

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 21, 2013, 01:35:01 AM
Not to my memory. He was much welcomed after Siegal and did a fine job replacing him before declining. He was fine as the The Nighthawk here in St. Louis and had a dedicated fan base as a local broadcaster, one that he built very rapidly.

I'll tell you hard it is to write a book with someone else's help. It's about 50 percent as intensive as writing it yourself, especially for a book like Worker in the Light. To write something biographical for someone would require a huge synopsis of their life that only they can provide, constant contact, and a huge amount of hours on the part of the subject. Even if it's entirely a fabrication to make them look good, it takes even more time. You still have to make it satisfactory to them, which requires revision after revision, submission after submission, until you finally get it right. Well, I write books for a living and it takes me about 6 hours per day for about six months to write an 80,000 word novel. Halve that and you still have significant time invested. Don't believe me? I'll write four paragraphs for you about your life in a PM. Wait until you see what I have to ask just to compose four paragraphs and what you have to do to provide it. Challenge open.

Try a convention. A few hours of Q and A and travel equates in reality to many hours. Fly from LA to Toronto and tell me how long that takes. Then travel to and from the airport. Then the event itself. And then back home. Tell me what condition you're in after that. Then we can talk about how easy it is. What it really is an entirely blown day just for a few hours of public contact.

I have no idea what it takes to tape a TV show. It's probably longer than the air time.

Agents, LOL. Um, no. Agents tell you what to do and remind you that you do not pay them directly, instead they take a percentage of the haul. They are a vested party, not a service. I get a daily contact from one and it's never something about them doing something meaningful for me, rather it's a nicely-worded "to do" list. As far as management, I have no idea if Noory's on that level or not. I would suspect Tommy does it, but I really don't know and I have no idea how much effort or what goes on there.

Now a cook book, that's low-intensity, but I doubt it was George's idea. That's a publisher using George's name to make money. It's telling by how little George is promoting it on air.

He asked you for tips in this thread on how to improve and said multiple times that he's willing to listen to constructive criticism. He showed that he was reactive on air. It was well discussed. You were here. I was here. There was much talk at that time just a few months ago about George doing things on air related to this board. I personally got him to ask a question on air simply by not being a flagrant asshole to him when I suggested it. How the fuck much did you need to indicate to you that the guy was listening and reacting?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It's a different thing to observe, satirize and heckle that someone sucks, and to WANT someone to suck. If you WANT George to Suck, then you're really pissed off at Art. You, Paper, WANT George to suck. It's misguided.

Oh, come on sci fi.Quit being an apologist for Noory. You continually defend the guy no matter how outrageous his comments are nor how stupid they are as well.

Its not a matter of wanting him to suck ( other than it gives ammunition for those like me who make fun of his comments on a regular basis ). Its really a matter of his sucking consistently for 10 years.

And doing absolutely NOTHING to change it or make things better.

Furthermore, it isn't that hard to put down words on paper or on the screen.

I do it extermperaneously and on the spot.

Its thinking about WHAT you're going to write about that is the problem.

I sincerely doubt Noory wrote any of his own books himself. He doesn't show the intelectual capacity for doing the hard work required by an writer who does it on his own.

valdez

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 20, 2013, 10:56:38 PM
One of the odd things about George. He just competently whipped out knowledge and a complex thought base on the healthcare system and abolishing the IRS and did it concisely in a few sentences. His commentary was further outside of the box than 98% of the professional talking head pundits on television and radio, and seemed to knock KAF a bit off kilter.

     He said he believed that no one should be denied health care, and that our tax system should be replaced with a "consumption based fair" something or other.  He supports the Fair Tax.  He's had Fair tax people on and I've given him credit and praise for it.  But why doesn't he just call it what it is instead of the "consumption based fair" thingee like he's inventing it all on his own?  I agree he can string together sentences that can convey a specific coherent thought, but they're usually just clichés.   I say "usually" just to be nice.  I've never heard an original thought come out of his head ever.  The promo for his cook book, with the "to Serve Man" theme, is actually funny and well done, and it would surprise me if somebody in his gang had anything to do with it.  Catherine Austin Fitts surprised me tonight.  She started recounting the timeline of our present economic woes, calling it a coup d’état that began in the late nineties with some secret decision to transfer money out of the country, and something about securities, and by the time 2010 came around billions of dollars were taken out of our treasury and spent on "space ships."  Space ships?  Did she say that?  And later she voiced her belief that the government was controlling the weather.  I like her, but I didn't know she was freaky that way.  James Van Praagh definitely had his freak on when he totally nailed that dead mother/daisy dukes thing.  God bless him.


Juan

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 21, 2013, 12:34:12 AM
I don't think it's laziness, per se. I think it's too much on the plate. We know he does the radio show, the internet TV show, public appearances, collaborative books, travel all over the place, posts here, etc. I think it can be reasonably established that he's productive. I think the problem is more likely to be that the quality of all suffers when you try to do too much.

I think there's a lot to this.  Add to these the insufferable corporate meetings he probably has to attend. 
George: Goodness, we're having God as a guest tonight.  I'd better brush up on his book.
Corporate suit sticking his head in the door: George, do you have a minute?
George: We're having a very important guest on tonight - I really need to do some show prep.
Suit: This will only take a couple of hours.  The top dog got a phone call from a listener complaining that Tommy wears t-shirts on the air.  We need to handle this

as so forth.

Plus, when you get a lot of experience as an interviewer, you learn stock questions and you learn stock ways of doing things.  It's very easy to fall into a rut of suckage.  Particularly when you are not really good at the job anyway.  I never heard George as the Nighthawk, but I do remember him early on Coast and he was acceptable, though with some quirks - particularly that one of asking a question the guest had just answered.

ziznak

If ever you hear George Noory spit out a few intelligent sentences you can bet yer prius he read that shit somewhere.  It's just like his "love" of animals. 

Jocko Johnson

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 21, 2013, 01:00:02 AM


Maybe your theory would be valid if George had started out well and declined over the years as he was adding these different activities.  But George wasn't a very good host when he started, or even after he'd been at it for awhile.  He didn't have all those other things going on back then.

How much effort is it to have someone else write a book and put his name on it?  Of fly to Colorado and do a pod TV cast with no more show prep that he does for Coast?  Or fly off to a convention, sing a few songs, tell a few jokes, do a little Q & A and shake a few hands? 

I don't think any of that takes much advance work by him personally - he has an agent and admins to do much of it, and what little of it there is he can do during the day at PremRat when he should be preparing for the radio show.


When all is said and done, he sucks at hosting a radio show.  On top of that he doesn't seen to put in any effort to get better.  And too often he doesn't even pretend to be interested.

BINGO!!!!!  Paper boy you hit the nail on the head...he sucked before c2c, during and will suck even after his ride is over...he not stretched . He has no brains to stretch  no knowledge or desire to not only get better but even to be just acceptable . Besides all the running around is suckering people, greed. Not his moment in the sun. I've said before...selling useless crap and cures. Endorsing phony cancer cures by having charlatans on his show and never challenging them in the slightest way. He's just a greedy sicking individual and is always all about him.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 21, 2013, 01:35:01 AM
... He was fine as the The Nighthawk here in St. Louis and had a dedicated fan base as a local broadcaster, one that he built very rapidly...


George should get ahold of some of those shows - the ones with good guests and not too dated - and play them here and there when he takes a vacation day

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 21, 2013, 01:35:01 AM
... I'll tell you hard it is to write a book with someone else's help. It's about 50 percent as intensive as writing it yourself, especially for a book like Worker in the Light...

... Try a convention. A few hours of Q and A and travel equates in reality to many hours. Fly from LA to Toronto and tell me how long that takes. Then travel to and from the airport. Then the event itself. And then back home. Tell me what condition you're in after that. Then we can talk about how easy it is. What it really is an entirely blown day just for a few hours of public contact.

I have no idea what it takes to tape a TV show. It's probably longer than the air time.

... I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It's a different thing to observe, satirize and heckle that someone sucks, and to WANT someone to suck. If you WANT George to Suck, then you're really pissed off at Art. You, Paper, WANT George to suck. It's misguided.



Sure, it all takes time.  George seems to have nothing but time on his hands.  I'd guess he spends his days at PremRat working on whatever needs to be worked on for these other projects.  Which is time he could be spending on show prep.  Instead he makes excuses, like 'I want to hear the material at the same time as the listeners so I can react to it the way they would'.  Except he doesn't.  He's too slow on his feet, as they say, to do that. 

I'd also guess George doesn't have much to do on his days off, especially when he's in LA.  Flying to a convention or to do his 'TV' show fills the time - especially when he ducks out early on Fridays, or just takes the whole day off.


I listened to George's show for a long time.  Having a day job, I didn't listen to the whole show every night - I didn't even do that when Art Bell was on.  I'd usually listen to the opening comments and most of the first hour, and the whole show only when it was a guest or topic I really wanted to hear. 

Doing that, it takes awhile for a person to realize the Full Suckage of George.  Sure, he wasn't Art, and I convinced myself that I was listening for the guests and not for George anyway.  I could live with the malapropos and mispronounced words and lack of knowledge on just about any subject, it was actually pretty funny.

I would wonder why George seemed to be asking random questions instead of just having a conversation, and why he would be constantly interrupting the guests instead of letting them finish their thoughts.  I started to notice he asked everybody the same questions more or less, and his comments like 'amazing', absolutely', 'so true' 'riveting' etc often didn't even make sense.


Then came the time he had a guest on I was really looking forward to.  George was doing everything he could think of to ruin it - interrupting, asking the same questions several times, asking things the guest had already answered.  He asked the guest to tell one story and cut him off just before he got to the end of it.  Several times the guest would say something astonishing and instead of following up, George would just go on to his next boring cue card question.  After about the third one of those, I actually wanted to throw my radio against the wall.  That was the night I thought about it, put it all together, and realized he pretty much did those same things with every show.

That's when I started thinking what a lazy ass George was.

It wasn't long after that his face and voice popped up on a new TV show I had started watching called 'Ancient Aliens'.  'Ohh noooo', I said, and googled 'George Noory Sucks'.

I continued listening for a few more years, wit low to no expectations and more for the humor of the suckage than anything else.  I even sent George a few constructive criticism emails.  I was pretty surprised at the emails I got back from him - just a few words or a sentence calling me a 'low life' or 'pond scum'.  He made it pretty clear he isn't interested in improving.

I have to admit it was fun listening to those shows, laughing at George, posting with the people on the GLP George Suck thread, then here.  Then at some point it wasn't worth listening to anymore, even for the humorous hideousness of it.


I'm not really pissed off at Art.  I don't 'want' George to suck.  I wish he had turned out to be a fantastic host, or even an acceptable one.  But he didn't, and isn't.  And I can't affect any of that anyway.  I just really find George to be quite the character study, and it's fun to follow along with his antics (as long as I don't have to actually listen anymore).


Like I said, if you enjoy him then that's great.  For me, he's terrible.  He's not a good person.  He isn't interested in improving.  He's dumb, lazy and boring.  He Sucks.


Edited to add:  As far as George wanting hints on how to improve - I suggest all he has to do is read this thread, starting from the first page. 

Textor

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 21, 2013, 10:24:37 AM


Sure, it all takes time.  George seems to have nothing but time on his hands.  I'd guess he spends his days at PremRat working on whatever needs to be worked on for these other projects.  Which is time he could be spending on show prep.  Instead he makes excuses, like 'I want to hear the material at the same time as the listeners so I can react to it the way they would'.  Except he doesn't.  He's too slow on his feet, as they say, to do that. 

I'd also guess George doesn't have much to do on his days off, especially when he's in LA.  Flying to a convention or to do his 'TV' show fills the time - especially when he ducks out early on Fridays, or just takes the whole day off.


I listened to George's show for a long time.  Having a day job, I didn't listen to the whole show every night - I didn't even do that when Art Bell was on.  I'd usually listen to the opening comments and most of the first hour, and the whole show only when it was a guest or topic I really wanted to hear. 

Doing that, it takes awhile for a person to realize the Full Suckage of George.  Sure, he wasn't Art, and I convinced myself that I was listening for the guests and not for George anyway.  I could live with the malapropos and mispronounced words and lack of knowledge on just about any subject, it was actually pretty funny.

I would wonder why George seemed to be asking random questions instead of just having a conversation, and why he would be constantly interrupting the guests instead of letting them finish their thoughts.  I started to notice he asked everybody the same questions more or less, and his comments like 'amazing', absolutely', 'so true' 'riveting' etc often didn't even make sense.


Then came the time he had a guest on I was really looking forward to.  George was doing everything he could think of to ruin it - interrupting, asking the same questions several times, asking things the guest had already answered.  He asked the guest to tell one story and cut him off just before he got to the end of it.  Several times the guest would say something astonishing and instead of following up, George would just go on to his next boring cue card question.  After about the third one of those, I actually wanted to throw my radio against the wall.  That was the night I thought about it, put it all together, and realized he pretty much did those same things with every show.

That's when I started thinking what a lazy ass George was.

It wasn't long after that his face and voice popped up on a new TV show I had started watching called 'Ancient Aliens'.  'Ohh noooo', I said, and googled 'George Noory Sucks'.

I continued listening for a few more years, more for the humor of the suckage than anything else.  I even sent George a few constructive criticism emails.  I was pretty surprised at the emails I got back from him - just a few words or a sentence calling me a 'low life' or 'pond scum'.  He made it pretty clear he isn't interested in improving.

I have to admit it was fun listening to those shows, laughing at George, posting with the people on the GLP George Suck thread, then here.  Then at some point it wasn't worth listening to anymore, even for the humorous hideousness of it.


I'm not really pissed off at Art.  I don't 'want' George to suck.  I wish he had turned out to be a fantastic host, or even an acceptable one.  But he didn't, and isn't.  And I can't affect any of that anyway.  I just really find George to be quite the character study, and it's fun to follow along with his antics (as long as I don't have to actually listen anymore).


Like I said, if you enjoy him then that's great.  For me, he's terrible.  He's not a good person.  He isn't interested in improving.  He's dumb, lazy and boring.  He Sucks.
I think this is one of the best articulated summaries of why George Noory has succeeded in having legions of people on here hating his guts.

SciFiAuthor

"Sure, it all takes time.  George seems to have nothing but time on his hands.  I'd guess he spends his days at PremRat working on whatever needs to be worked on for these other projects.  Which is time he could be spending on show prep.  Instead he makes excuses, like 'I want to hear the material at the same time as the listeners so I can react to it the way they would'.  Except he doesn't.  He's too slow on his feet, as they say, to do that."

Now see, you couldn't know that. You guess. You assume. You have no idea if the guy is constantly busy during a day or sitting around. You default on sitting around baselessly because you want him to suck. I've never heard him say that he wants to hear and react to the material at the same time as his audience. I did hear Art Bell say something to that effect on Dark Matter.

"I'd also guess George doesn't have much to do on his days off, especially when he's in LA.  Flying to a convention or to do his 'TV' show fills the time - especially when he ducks out early on Fridays, or just takes the whole day off."

You certainly are guessing.

"I listened to George's show for a long time.  Having a day job, I didn't listen to the whole show every night - I didn't even do that when Art Bell was on.  I'd usually listen to the opening comments and most of the first hour, and the whole show only when it was a guest or topic I really wanted to hear.

Doing that, it takes awhile for a person to realize the Full Suckage of George.  Sure, he wasn't Art, and I convinced myself that I was listening for the guests and not for George anyway.  I could live with the malapropos and mispronounced words and lack of knowledge on just about any subject, it was actually pretty funny.

I would wonder why George seemed to be asking random questions instead of just having a conversation, and why he would be constantly interrupting the guests instead of letting them finish their thoughts.  I started to notice he asked everybody the same questions more or less, and his comments like 'amazing', absolutely', 'so true' 'riveting' etc often didn't even make sense."

He's definitely often unengaged. He is not Adolph Hitler for it.


"Then came the time he had a guest on I was really looking forward to.  George was doing everything he could think of to ruin it - interrupting, asking the same questions several times, asking things the guest had already answered.  He asked the guest to tell one story and cut him off just before he got to the end of it.  Several times the guest would say something astonishing and instead of following up, George would just go on to his next boring cue card question.  After about the third one of those, I actually wanted to throw my radio against the wall.  That was the night I thought about it, put it all together, and realized he pretty much did those same things with every show."

He doesn't. He certainly didn't last night.

"That's when I started thinking what a lazy ass George was."

It isn't logically possible given the display of product. I think it's easy to illustrate that you're calling it wrong because you WANT to call it wrong, not out of any logical conclusion.

"It wasn't long after that his face and voice popped up on a new TV show I had started watching called 'Ancient Aliens'.  'Ohh noooo', I said, and googled 'George Noory Sucks'.

I continued listening for a few more years, wit low to no expectations and more for the humor of the suckage than anything else.  I even sent George a few constructive criticism emails.  I was pretty surprised at the emails I got back from him - just a few words or a sentence calling me a 'low life' or 'pond scum'.  He made it pretty clear he isn't interested in improving."

I have found the opposite. If you send him a message written in a non-abrasive manner, then you get excellent results. I'm pretty sure, based on posting style, most of the cases where people write George notes and get terse responses are due to the fact that they started the letter with something along the lines of "Hello you lazy fucker".

"I have to admit it was fun listening to those shows, laughing at George, posting with the people on the GLP George Suck thread, then here.  Then at some point it wasn't worth listening to anymore, even for the humorous hideousness of it.

I'm not really pissed off at Art.  I don't 'want' George to suck.  I wish he had turned out to be a fantastic host, or even an acceptable one.  But he didn't, and isn't.  And I can't affect any of that anyway.  I just really find George to be quite the character study, and it's fun to follow along with his antics (as long as I don't have to actually listen anymore)."

That statement is not borne out by the vehement, obsessive hatred with which you present assumption as fact. It just doesn't hold water. You HATE that guy.

"Like I said, if you enjoy him then that's great.  For me, he's terrible.  He's not a good person.  He isn't interested in improving.  He's dumb, lazy and boring.  He Sucks."

Not borne out by the events in this thread over the last three months.

"Edited to add:  As far as George wanting hints on how to improve - I suggest all he has to do is read this thread, starting from the first page."

He seems to have. So have I. It has about five legitimate criticisms across the board that are parroted repeatedly. Beyond that, it's a large mass of baseless assumption, mean-spirited bullshit, attacks on a producer that no one knows, show commentary, with some humorous satire mixed in.

onan

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on November 21, 2013, 01:21:08 PM
It has about five legitimate criticisms across the board that are parroted repeatedly.

First off, on any of my performance reviews that showed 5 significant issues that impacted my performance for more than 6 months, I would be let go. And so would most people. If my superior let those issues continue for any time past that, their position would be in question. For it to go 10 years...

Noory is a hack, and he sucks.

I also find it interesting that you suggest PB sees things as he wants to. Are you able to put that label on yourself as well?

qaddisin

Quote from: onan on November 21, 2013, 02:05:39 PM
First off, on any of my performance reviews that showed 5 significant issues that impacted my performance for more than 6 months, I would be let go. And so would most people. If my superior let those issues continue for any time past that, their position would be in question. For it to go 10 years...

I find it incredibly creepy that I was about to make the same statement after reading SciFi's post, and just happened to refresh the page before I posted.

I would go further and ask SciFi if his work exhibited those same flaws that he considers salient, how successful would he be in his chosen profession?

Noory appeals to a segment of the population that is high on paranoia and low on brain cells. I believe that, and his ability to somehow impress (or bullshit) his superiors are the only things that have kept him on the radio.

Textor

Quote from: qaddisin on November 21, 2013, 02:24:29 PM
his ability to somehow impress (or bullshit) his superiors are the only things that have kept him on the radio.

I'm not sure if that is the case. I think he just lets his superiors do what they want, so they like him because he isn't a troublemaker. Like that Art fellow. Did you know he demanded that they strip commercial time off that program!?

Good thing Noory was there to let them put it all back... and more.

We've heard the rumors about Paid Callers.  I suggest the Paid Poster. 

"Struggling artist, perhaps a writer, work from home..."

qaddisin

Quote from: Textor on November 21, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
I'm not sure if that is the case. I think he just lets his superiors do what they want, so they like him because he isn't a troublemaker. Like that Art fellow. Did you know he demanded that they strip commercial time off that program!?

Good thing Noory was there to let them put it all back... and more.

I'd consider that a part of impressing his superiors. He's willing to turn Coast to Coast into a 4 hour long infomercial on a regular basis already. He may as well permanently make it one. Hell, I'm surprised they haven't had him record five different spots and just put it on a weekly rotation. That way, he would have plenty of time to fly around the country to his appearances, to hawk his book or someone's miracle cures.

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