20150721 - Charles Faddis - Biological Terrorism

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Last night's guest revealed little to nothing about his role in the CIA.  I wonder if Art knew of his political aspirations prior to him being booked for the show.  His appearance reminds me why I don't care to hear politics discussed on Art's show.  Even with Art's talent for trying to maintain a middle ground, it's too easy to fall into fear-based personal opinion among listeners and create divisiveness, just as it did here in this thread.  As if right on cue folks began to take their respective sides:  Left/Right, Libtard/GOP Wingnut , etc.  Other Bellgabers are right--we can hear endless loops of this crap on a number of other shows.

Far more interesting to me, and more appropriate for a host like Art, would be to talk about our continued dependence on oil, and how it continues to dominate U.S. relationships and policy not only in the Middle East, but throughout the world. 

What's the latest on energy and fuel alternatives??

I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say he wasn't slanting his views for campaigning purposes but rather he has some ideals he believes strongly and is campaigning so he can put those ideals into practice.  I don't think his political aspirations coloured his commentary last night.  When he becomes a career politician, I will then become more cynical of his views, but maybe I wasn't listening closely enough.

I thought it was a really good show last night.

[nika01]

If you listened to the show you would have heard Art ask the guest about his Senate run. Faddis immediately went in to campaign mode, criticizing the current administration's foreign policy and telling us how he would handle it differently...essentially, "Vote for me." BTW, I'm not interested in defending or criticizing the current administration. Regardless of which party is in the White House, I think the is little hope for any resolution with such a profoundly divided two-party system.

I heard that, and it wasn't very political in my mind. I hope that Trump and Bernie run as 3rd and 4th party candidates and make this next election really, really interesting. Having said all that I have about politics, I agree, I would rather hear Art interview a muzzled Graham Hancock than listening to current events. It is depressing.

[Freyja]

Where do you hear politics?? I dont get it. Seriously. Sounded pretty factual to me, and a refreshing departure from misinformation from standard media sources.

Facts according to whom?

[Freyja]

I'm sure both of you could find a deal on a house in the suburbs of Baghdad.

LOL...that's your best counterpoint to what that caller was asking Faddis and his response? Seriously??  :

There must be great sale on koolaid in your neighborhood somewhere.

[Lt.Uhura]

I heard that, and it wasn't very political in my mind. I hope that Trump and Bernie run as 3rd and 4th party candidates and make this next election really, really interesting. Having said all that I have about politics, I agree, I would rather hear Art interview a muzzled Graham Hancock than listening to current events. It is depressing.

Yes, I'd like to see other candidates level the playing field.  The media however loves the high drama of a dysfunctional two-party system, and gives little attention to serious alternatives.

[nika01]

LOL...that's your best counterpoint to what that caller was asking Faddis and his response? Seriously??  :

There must be great sale on koolaid in your neighborhood somewhere.

I am still waiting on the list of inaccuracies, apparently you don't have any, just want to sling ill defined muck.

[NowhereInTime]

If the next president is merely another Republican, nothing will get cleaned up. We need someone radically different from what we've elected previously. Someone offensive. Someone with no regard for what his opponents and/or/in the media say about him/her.

Spot on, Mike.  This is why I am praying for a Trump v. Sanders election.  Bush/Clinton reeks of entitled political machinery and the type of duplicity that has stagnated our political process.

Say what you will about Trump, he is refreshingly candid, fearless, and the ultimate deal maker.

Say what you will about Sanders, he is unafraid of the media label machine, has been consistent with his principles, and appeals to an underserved demographic.

This could be the best campaign in decades.

[CrazyLady]

PRESIDENT TRUMP? Get me outta here!

Ugh!!Trump for President... really Art?? I thought you were smarter than the average American!!?? The thought of it makes my skin crawl.

Who would be his VP. Bill Gates??!!

[Freyja]

I am still waiting on the list of inaccuracies, apparently you don't have any, just want to sling ill defined muck.

You didn't ask me for a list of any kind...you did suggest real estate in Baghdad though. Such a thoughtful and intelligent response to my original post. I am overwhelmed.  :  Which pile of rubble do you suggest I choose? Do you have brochures?

I had said all I had to say on last nights program until your response. Don't expect to sling first without getting slung.

You have your opinion, I have mine and other have theirs. Let's just leave it at that. None of us will ever know the truth about this and so many other things. Isn't that what this is all about?...the search for the truth?

[nika01]

You didn't ask me for a list of any kind...you did suggest real estate in Baghdad though. Such a thoughtful and intelligent response to my original post. I am overwhelmed.  :  Which pile of rubble do you suggest I choose? Do you have brochures?

I had said all I had to say on last nights program until your response. Don't expect to sling first without getting slung.

You have your opinion, I have mine and other have theirs. Let's just leave it at that. None of us will ever know the truth about this and so many other things. Isn't that what this is all about?...the search for the truth?

"Pure BS/Propaganda from beginning to end is right." Your words...

Which part was BS, which part was propaganda? If you don't want to answer, its fine.

[BattyBrooke]

I know you're new, Prairie Ghost, so I am being gentle when I tell you posting inspirational quotes here will get you a bountiful beating. You're welcome.

[Uncle Duke]

Where do you hear politics?? I dont get it. Seriously. Sounded pretty factual to me, and a refreshing departure from misinformation from standard media sources. Tell me where the politics are, honestly.

I agree, the guest seemed to answer questions as a function of his personal experience.  I found it refreshing to hear a guest decline to respond to questions in areas he admittedly had no expertise or experience.  He did offer opinions, some political in nature, but primarily in response to direct questions from Art. 

I was restarting TuneIn at the point it was revealed the guest was considering a run for Congress.  How did that become part of the interview?  Did he volunteer the information unasked or did Art ask him about it first?  I did notice an uptick in rhetoric after his run for office was in play, but if Art brought it up, I think the guest probably felt it was OK to stump a bit.  Either way, Art would have put a stop to it if he believed it to have been outside the scope of the guest's appearance.  Art's not shy, he will not just stammer "very true" or "that's a good point" when a guest starts losing focus.

[coaster]

I think no matter who runs we are truly fucked. No one stands out. I'm tired of the Bushes and Clintons thinking the Presidency is a game. Trump is a fucking joke. Perhaps I'll call one of my Canadian friends to see if they have a spare room.

[ziznak]

I know you're new, Prairie Ghost, so I am being gentle when I tell you posting inspirational quotes here will get you a bountiful beating. You're welcome.

theres too much there to mess with... fit in your box??? that's what SHE said!

muahahahaha ahaha muh meh.... ehhhhh... ahhh shit.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

I agree, the guest seemed to answer questions as a function of his personal experience.  I found it refreshing to hear a guest decline to respond to questions in areas he admittedly had no expertise or experience.  He did offer opinions, some political in nature, but primarily in response to direct questions from Art. 

I was restarting TuneIn at the point it was revealed the guest was considering a run for Congress.  How did that become part of the interview?  Did he volunteer the information unasked or did Art ask him about it first?  I did notice an uptick in rhetoric after his run for office was in play, but if Art brought it up, I think the guest probably felt it was OK to stump a bit.  Either way, Art would have put a stop to it if he believed it to have been outside the scope of the guest's appearance.  Art's not shy, he will not just stammer "very true" or "that's a good point" when a guest starts losing focus.

Art brought it up by saying the guest had an announcement he was prepared to make, or reveal, or something along those lines.

[Surmo]

Isn't that how Hitler was elected?

Please, not the Hitler card!

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Please, not the Hitler card!

I knew that post would turn people off but this is the exact situation that got Hitler elected in 1930s Germany.  People were experiencing economic turmoil, they were fed up with the Jews, and they were fed up with the status quo so they elected someone who wasn't going to be politically correct and do the same old things.  History has cycles and we are not immune just because it's not 1930 anymore.  Replace Jew with Muslim and you have 2010's America.

[nika01]

I agree, the guest seemed to answer questions as a function of his personal experience.  I found it refreshing to hear a guest decline to respond to questions in areas he admittedly had no expertise or experience.  He did offer opinions, some political in nature, but primarily in response to direct questions from Art. 

I was restarting TuneIn at the point it was revealed the guest was considering a run for Congress.  How did that become part of the interview?  Did he volunteer the information unasked or did Art ask him about it first?  I did notice an uptick in rhetoric after his run for office was in play, but if Art brought it up, I think the guest probably felt it was OK to stump a bit.  Either way, Art would have put a stop to it if he believed it to have been outside the scope of the guest's appearance.  Art's not shy, he will not just stammer "very true" or "that's a good point" when a guest starts losing focus.

Art asked him, but I think it was already set up in advance of the interview.

[ziznak]

I've got a full house... 3 hitlers and 2 mussolinis... BAM!

gimme all yer chips

[Surmo]

I knew that post would turn people off but this is the exact situation that got Hitler elected in 1930s Germany.  People were experiencing economic turmoil, they were fed up with the Jews, and they were fed up with the status quo so they elected someone who wasn't going to be politically correct and do the same old things.  History has cycles and we are not immune just because it's not 1930 anymore.  Replace Jew with Muslim and you have 2010's America.

Must disagree.  Economic issues are much less now.  We don't take a wheelbarrow of money to buy groceries, and people arent starving in the street. People fed up with the Moslems - more like with Islam, though I see your point.  Fed up with the status quo - I'll give you that one.  But the Versailles Treaty was the real setup in bringing about Hitler, and there is nothing like that here.

Most importantly, just mentioning Hitler is like calling people racist when they disagree with you....you end logical discussion, and make it an emotional name-calling battle serving no purpose but to further divide.

[onan]

I've got a full house... 3 hitlers and 2 mussolinis... BAM!

gimme all yer chips

Yeah well I am holding 4 jesus'. Hand me the money.

[Surmo]

Yeah well I am holding 4 jesus'. Hand me the money.

"Trumps" me!  Time to move on to Linda M. Howe.  The Lady had her best
performance perhaps ever on Dark Matter (since she won her pageant), and
I'm hoping for another one tonight.

[Uncle Duke]

Art asked him, but I think it was already set up in advance of the interview.

OK, so Art's smart enough to know he could not ask a potential political office seeker about his run for public office without some degree of rhetoric coming out of the discussion. If you didn't like the fact partisan politics became part of the interview, I suggest your problem is with Art, not the guest.  On the other hand, if you disagreed with the guest's opinions or found them offensive, you could have dropped the stream as at least a couple posters here said they did.

Personally, I'm just glad to have a host who will engage and challenge a guest and not allow the guest to control the interview.

[Art_s Farts]

Yeah well I am holding 4 jesus'. Hand me the money.

You said it man nobody fucks with the jesus

[paladin1991]

I worked as a civilian contractor during Reagan Star Wars Defense Project. Supposedly it was never completed. Guess what? It's healthy and doing it's job quietly waiting for it's time to come on line.

God bless Ronald Raygun.

[paladin1991]

More than well said. My sentiments exactly.

I turned the show off in the third hour after a caller Andrew asked about the link to invading Iraq and Libya due to Sadam and Gadaffi moving away from US currency for the petroleum trade to the euro and dinar gold based currency. Faddis said he he knew of no indications that this played any role in the toppling of these regimes. Really?!?!? Pure BS/Propaganda from beginning to end is right.

I turned my stream off right after that call.

I love Art and am so happy to have him back, however this show was beyond disappointing. This topic and guest was not a great way to kick off debut week of MITD IMO.

Holy Shit!  Somebody check on ART.  Make sure that all sharps instruments are taken away...oh, hold on.  It's only his 'opinion.'  Whoa, for a second I thought it was something that mattered.  You know. Like facts?

[henge0stone]

indeed

[Jackstar]

Step 1: Rabidly, publicly support Trump
Step 2: Vote Sanders

Step 3:

             

[Freyja]

"Pure BS/Propaganda from beginning to end is right." Your words...

Which part was BS, which part was propaganda? If you don't want to answer, its fine.

The part that I already posted about the move of both Saddam and Gadaffi from the US $$ to EU/gold based dinar.

He is expected us to believe, that high level "retired" CIA, Faddis said he knew of no indications that this played any role in the toppling of these regimes.

When asked if the MM/CNN was run by the CIA he said no ( I didn't take notes so he may have said he had no knowledge) however Anderson Cooper of CNN has admitted this ( google it)

There was much talk of ISIS, however nothing was revealed: who funds them, where they are getting their weapons from etc. Guess Al Quaeda ( also CIA created or complicit) has lost the fear factor and another evil doer needed to be created and funded...JMHO of course.

etc. etc. etc....

I am not going to relisten to the program and make notes....it was bad enough a listen the first time.

Now tell me how credible this is coming from a former "chief operations officer" of the CIA....seriously.....and now he's running for congress??.

What if anything new did Faddis bring to the table that we haven't heard ad nauseum on MM?

My take is that he's a talking head shill on the guvment payroll still enlisted to spew their rhetoric. That is MHO and you are entitled as is anyone else to hold yours.

Lastly your quote above are not  my words...I was reposting agreement to waves words in his/her post. 

[paladin1991]

I've got a full house... 3 hitlers and 2 mussolinis... BAM!

gimme all yer chips

I got a fistful of Wild Cards and my finger on a button.  Let's play a new game, it's called Bend Over!  Rules?  You do whatever I tell you to do.
I know, right?  Sounds like marriage!