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20150721 - Charles Faddis - Biological Terrorism

Started by MV/Liberace!, July 21, 2015, 11:15:10 AM

Morgus

Quote from: nooryisawesome on July 22, 2015, 12:13:23 AM
Dave is up to his usual tricks. A bellgabber posted over in the GNS thread Dave was talking about Art again and Dave said he will not have anyone on C2C if they go on MITD until enough time has passed. seems like he is trying to black list Art.
How long is "enough time has passed" ?
Linda Howe is Art's guest on Wed night this week.
Noory usually would have Linda on a week later (next week on Thursday night) is a week enough time?
I bet Noory does that differently between the lesser guests and the big regular ones like Linda - other guests might have to wait a year or more after being on MITD...

Quote from: Morgus on July 22, 2015, 12:53:06 AM
How long is "enough time has passed" ?
Linda Howe is Art's guest on Wed night this week.
Noory usually would have Linda on a week later (next week on Thursday night) is a week enough time?
I bet Noory does that differently between the lesser guests and the big regular ones like Linda - other guests might have to wait a year or more after being on MITD...

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on July 22, 2015, 12:44:34 AM
He just said on Malliard's show that he hadn't wanted someone on his show on Monday and then on Dark Matter Tuesday or Wednesday, or visa versa.  He went on to say that LMH will be on MITD a week or ten days before she comes on C2C this month and he's fine with that.

Quote from: mikuthing01 on July 21, 2015, 11:54:56 PM
He just admitted to being pro gun control so now Republicans wont vote for him. He hats Snowden so no one under 60 will vote for him. He just handed libtards the election.
Sounds like a RINO looks like  RINO smells like a RINO....must be a.....RINO!

Sean92008

Quote from: Morgus on July 22, 2015, 12:53:06 AM
How long is "enough time has passed" ?
Linda Howe is Art's guest on Wed night this week.
Noory usually would have Linda on a week later (next week on Thursday night) is a week enough time?
I bet Noory does that differently between the lesser guests and the big regular ones like Linda - other guests might have to wait a year or more after being on MITD...
It won't matter much, many of Dave's "frnge guests" suck.  So, if they're not good enough that they have to wait one year to come on to his show, they wouldn't be good enough for Art any day.

MisterChew

How come I can't access the RCH show thread? It says the board either doesn't exist or I don't have permission to access.

Quote from: MisterChew on July 22, 2015, 01:30:13 AM
How come I can't access the RCH show thread? It says the board either doesn't exist or I don't have permission to access.

It's been merged with another Hoagland thread.

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,8014.msg437696.html#new

Hogo

How long did last nights show take to show up on the dmdn site?

Auslandia

My tune in feed was pretty lagging but it could've been my internet although I normally don't have many issues.

My biggest disappointment is the manual download. It really should be automated.  The multi-part download is both clunky & annoying for those of us who are on the go.

Hogo

Just went up. So I guess about 3 1/2 hours after show.

Freyja

Quote from: waves on July 21, 2015, 11:21:38 PM
To have this whole conversation like the US is the good guys with no mention whatsoever of the complicity of the criminal American Military Industrial Complex as the  creator of huge amounts of the world's problems, totally unethical war practices including biological warfare, the continuous stream of lies they spew to cover their ass thru the controlled media, the unbelievable amounts of war started and innocents murdered for corporate gain, the past and ongoing CIA drug running, the history of false flags, the funding of both sides of supposed conflicts for undisclosed agendas, the fact that the President is purely a figurehead and never really makes any decisions..... I could go on.   

This whole interview is pure BS/propaganda, this guy sounds purely like a robotic monotone player and it makes me remember Art's act of having blinders to this aspect of military/politics.  I don't like it, he's much too smart to be this blind.  Here we go again.

More than well said. My sentiments exactly.

I turned the show off in the third hour after a caller Andrew asked about the link to invading Iraq and Libya due to Sadam and Gadaffi moving away from US currency for the petroleum trade to the euro and dinar gold based currency. Faddis said he he knew of no indications that this played any role in the toppling of these regimes. Really?!?!? Pure BS/Propaganda from beginning to end is right.

I turned my stream off right after that call.

I love Art and am so happy to have him back, however this show was beyond disappointing. This topic and guest was not a great way to kick off debut week of MITD IMO.

   

311guy1

I'm not sure if this was discussed somewhere else, but when will the Dark Matter Radio Network be updated to show who's on the show that day? Is Art going to continue to not give a schedule in advance so Dave doesn't snipe his guests?

Quick Karl

Quote from: Freyja on July 22, 2015, 05:30:06 AM
I turned the show off in the third hour after a caller Andrew asked about the link to invading Iraq and Libya due to Sadam and Gadaffi moving away from US currency for the petroleum trade to the euro and dinar gold based currency. Faddis said he he knew of no indications that this played any role in the toppling of these regimes.

Really?!?!? Pure BS/Propaganda from beginning to end is right.

Do you have any facts to support your conclusion, or just ESP?

jazmunda

Quote from: 311guy1 on July 22, 2015, 05:31:32 AM
I'm not sure if this was discussed somewhere else, but when will the Dark Matter Radio Network be updated to show who's on the show that day? Is Art going to continue to not give a schedule in advance so Dave doesn't snipe his guests?

Keith had been releasing the next days guests shortly after the show has aired. Tonight is Linda Moulton Howe. I guess they are protecting their guests from Dave so he doesn't attempt to interfere like he did during Dark Matter.

Time will tell how long this will go on for. Hopefully in time this won't be an issue. It's frustrating for us fans but hey I'm here for Art and I'm enjoying the ride no matter who is along for it.

Mastodonkey

This show wasn't my cup of tea. I turned it off about an hour in. As far as Linda Howe goes.. I know she's been coming on with Art forever but whether she comes on on his show or with Noory I always find it boring. She's basically just reading off news articles and reports for god knows how long.

Auslandia

Lol I was just about to say that!  She totally does just go down her earth files page & read articles.  She's also kind of become a laughing stock.  Her type of "reporting" is a bit too Hoagland for today's mentality.  Back before people had a lot of info at their fingertips, we had to take her at her word but now most people are savvy enough to disregard her tendency to over exaggerate, report conjecture as fact & generally do a lousy job at honest reporting. 

nextgen.fm

Good MOrning! Will Linda be calling on Skype??

henge0stone

Quote from: nooryisawesome on July 22, 2015, 12:13:23 AM
Dave is up to his usual tricks. A bellgabber posted over in the GNS thread Dave was talking about Art again and Dave said he will not have anyone on C2C if they go on MITD until enough time has passed. seems like he is trying to black list Art.

What an @hole. Doesn't he know this doesn't make him look good at all? They probably won't dump Linda since she is such a regular but who knows. Art coming back has them all flustered its pathetic really. Maybe if they realized that Noory has been there 5 to 6 years too long and did something about it, instead they are just going to create animosity between themselves and the guests. Keep doing your own thing Art! They're only freaking out because they know you're better than them.

Surmo

Quote from: MV on July 21, 2015, 11:48:47 PM
If the next president is merely another Republican, nothing will get cleaned up. We need someone radically different from what we've elected previously. Someone offensive. Someone with no regard for what his opponents and/or/in the media say about him/her.

This.

munbeam666

Quote from: waves on July 21, 2015, 11:21:38 PM
To have this whole conversation like the US is the good guys with no mention whatsoever of the complicity of the criminal American Military Industrial Complex as the  creator of huge amounts of the world's problems, totally unethical war practices including biological warfare, the continuous stream of lies they spew to cover their ass thru the controlled media, the unbelievable amounts of war started and innocents murdered for corporate gain, the past and ongoing CIA drug running, the history of false flags, the funding of both sides of supposed conflicts for undisclosed agendas, the fact that the President is purely a figurehead and never really makes any decisions..... I could go on.   

This whole interview is pure BS/propaganda, this guy sounds purely like a robotic monotone player and it makes me remember Art's act of having blinders to this aspect of military/politics.  I don't like it, he's much too smart to be this blind.  Here we go again.
Agreed. I believe that this guy is part of an intelligence propaganda arm, as well. I shut the program off after about 15 minutes into this interview. I'm looking forward to LMH tonight

NoMoreNoory

Quote from: waves on July 21, 2015, 11:21:38 PM
To have this whole conversation like the US is the good guys with no mention whatsoever of the complicity of the criminal American Military Industrial Complex as the  creator of huge amounts of the world's problems, totally unethical war practices including biological warfare, the continuous stream of lies they spew to cover their ass thru the controlled media, the unbelievable amounts of war started and innocents murdered for corporate gain, the past and ongoing CIA drug running, the history of false flags, the funding of both sides of supposed conflicts for undisclosed agendas, the fact that the President is purely a figurehead and never really makes any decisions..... I could go on.   

This whole interview is pure BS/propaganda, this guy sounds purely like a robotic monotone player and it makes me remember Art's act of having blinders to this aspect of military/politics.  I don't like it, he's much too smart to be this blind.  Here we go again.

Spot on. I would refer anyone who thinks otherwise to Stephen Kinzer's excellent The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles And Their Secret World War (bought after Kinzer guested with George Knapp).

Surmo

I think it is more of a mindset, not a "propaganda arm."  I used to do the same job as Faddis for the XVIII Airborne Corps, and everyone there thinks that way, or at least acts like they do.  I think Faddis honestly believes most of what he says.  And other than on Snowden and a few things Faddis said for "congressional campaign purposes," I think he was spot on.  Not a thing wrong with what he said about how bad the Iran deal is, which was his main focus, and I have read almost nothing on BellGab actually challenging any of THOSE facts.  And Faddis did admit a couple of times that what much of this is about is oil and money.....an obvious truth, but one progagandists often gloss over.

Surmo

No doubt, the Dulles brothers were a couple of crazy dudes......I think of the Peter Sellers German scientist character when I write that.

munbeam666

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on July 22, 2015, 08:24:37 AM
Spot on. I would refer anyone who thinks otherwise to Stephen Kinzer's excellent The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles And Their Secret World War (bought after Kinzer guested with George Knapp).
Noam Chomsky's assessment on US-Iran relations and its history is an excellent alternative viewpoint on the subject:
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35336.htm
Enough with my political rant. I prefer listening to paranormal stuff

nika01

Quote from: Freyja on July 22, 2015, 05:30:06 AM
More than well said. My sentiments exactly.

I turned the show off in the third hour after a caller Andrew asked about the link to invading Iraq and Libya due to Sadam and Gadaffi moving away from US currency for the petroleum trade to the euro and dinar gold based currency. Faddis said he he knew of no indications that this played any role in the toppling of these regimes. Really?!?!? Pure BS/Propaganda from beginning to end is right.

I turned my stream off right after that call.

I love Art and am so happy to have him back, however this show was beyond disappointing. This topic and guest was not a great way to kick off debut week of MITD IMO.



I'm sure both of you could find a deal on a house in the suburbs of Baghdad. 

nika01

Quote from: munbeam666 on July 22, 2015, 07:52:42 AM
Agreed. I believe that this guy is part of an intelligence propaganda arm, as well. I shut the program off after about 15 minutes into this interview. I'm looking forward to LMH tonight

So, all you know it all's should pony up specifically what Faddis said that was somehow wrong or outright lies. Specifics, please.

Lt.Uhura

Last night's guest revealed little to nothing about his role in the CIA.  I wonder if Art knew of his political aspirations prior to him being booked for the show.  His appearance reminds me why I don't care to hear politics discussed on Art's show.  Even with Art's talent for trying to maintain a middle ground, it's too easy to fall into fear-based personal opinion among listeners and create divisiveness, just as it did here in this thread.  As if right on cue folks began to take their respective sides:  Left/Right, Libtard/GOP Wingnut , etc.  Other Bellgabers are right--we can hear endless loops of this crap on a number of other shows.

Far more interesting to me, and more appropriate for a host like Art, would be to talk about our continued dependence on oil, and how it continues to dominate U.S. relationships and policy not only in the Middle East, but throughout the world. 

What's the latest on energy and fuel alternatives??

albrecht

The caller that mentioned "brain fingerprinting" an interesting idea: potentially frightening but potentially useful, thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_fingerprinting

nika01

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on July 22, 2015, 10:19:51 AM
Last night's guest revealed little to nothing about his role in the CIA.  I wonder if Art knew of his political aspirations prior to him being booked for the show.  His appearance reminds me why I don't care to hear politics discussed on Art's show.  Even with Art's talent for trying to maintain a middle ground, it's too easy to fall into fear-based personal opinion among listeners and create divisiveness, just as it did here in this thread.  As if right on cue folks began to take their respective sides:  Left/Right, Libtard/GOP Wingnut , etc.  Other Bellgabers are right--we can hear endless loops of this crap on a number of other shows.

Far more interesting to me, and more appropriate for a host like Art, would be to talk about our continued dependence on oil, and how it continues to dominate U.S. relationships and policy not only in the Middle East, but throughout the world. 

What's the latest on energy and fuel alternatives??

Where do you hear politics?? I dont get it. Seriously. Sounded pretty factual to me, and a refreshing departure from misinformation from standard media sources. Tell me where the politics are, honestly.

Quote from: MV on July 21, 2015, 11:48:47 PM
If the next president is merely another Republican, nothing will get cleaned up. We need someone radically different from what we've elected previously. Someone offensive. Someone with no regard for what his opponents and/or/in the media say about him/her.
Quote from: Surmo on July 22, 2015, 07:06:08 AM
This.

Isn't that how Hitler was elected?

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: nika01 on July 22, 2015, 10:28:15 AM
Where do you hear politics?? I dont get it. Seriously. Sounded pretty factual to me, and a refreshing departure from misinformation from standard media sources. Tell me where the politics are, honestly.

If you listened to the show you would have heard Art ask the guest about his Senate run. Faddis immediately went in to campaign mode, criticizing the current administration's foreign policy and telling us how he would handle it differently...essentially, "Vote for me." BTW, I'm not interested in defending or criticizing the current administration. Regardless of which party is in the White House, I think there is little hope for any resolution with such a profoundly divided two-party system.

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