The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

astroguy · August 05, 2015, 01:55:30 AM

Quote from: zeebo on August 05, 2015, 01:52:32 AM
Did I just understand him to say the gov't images are concealing the truth as part of the cover-up, but also at the same time since the truth is in there in cryptic form they can claim they never hid anything later?

Yessir.

nooryisawesome · August 05, 2015, 01:55:33 AM

Quote from: astroguy on August 05, 2015, 01:54:28 AM
Me or him? I think he's doing more of an Inconsistency fallacy rather than specifically moving the goalpost, but I could be wrong.

Yes you are, Dick Hoagland is right as always.

Claudius · August 05, 2015, 01:55:37 AM

Quote from: astroguy on August 05, 2015, 01:54:28 AM
Me or him? I think he's doing more of an Inconsistency fallacy rather than specifically moving the goalpost, but I could be wrong.

He is to me. The pictures will never be good enough to prove him wrong, but then they are... ok well now I need X photos.

Textor · August 05, 2015, 01:55:41 AM

Quote from: UnfamiliarWind on August 05, 2015, 01:54:51 AM
I feel like I heard this guy 100x on C2C and never paid attention to what he was actually saying. Now I'm trying to piece together his extremely complex theories.

I know the feeling. I barely can pay any attention to him now.

ShayP · August 05, 2015, 01:55:52 AM

I'm calling now to see what he wants me to eat for breakfast...seriously.

astroguy · August 05, 2015, 01:56:36 AM

Quote from: UnfamiliarWind on August 05, 2015, 01:54:51 AM
I feel like I heard this guy 100x on C2C and never paid attention to what he was actually saying. Now I'm trying to piece together his extremely complex theories.

Yeah, good luck with that. I've paid close attention to his ~~rantings~~ words of wisdom for over 7 years, and listened to 2 decades of archives, and I still haven't figured everything out that makes up his world.

Claudius · August 05, 2015, 01:56:55 AM

Quote from: ShayP on August 05, 2015, 01:55:52 AM
I'm calling now to see what he wants me to eat for breakfast...seriously.

He will correct you too... NO not Wheaties! Corn flakes!

whiptrackercracker · August 05, 2015, 01:56:59 AM

Quote from: Claudius on August 05, 2015, 01:53:53 AM
Our nuclear submarines do not travel from station A to station B moron. They stay at sea for several months. And also, did you ask her? Dude she is an engineer on one of a nuclear subs, you think she is going to start spilling secrets about outputs from the reactors?

Its actually a question I've been dying to ask a few nukes in the past. But you are correct, that is a no-go question because of their national security oath. Not to mention the person monitoring reactor output is not going to know where they are, necessarily, anyways. It is an interesting question though, since we don't really have other reactors out there that are dynamically mobile and also somewhat shielded from other sources being farther underwater.

zeebo · August 05, 2015, 01:58:08 AM

Quote from: UnfamiliarWind on August 05, 2015, 01:54:51 AM
...Does he believe in UFOs?

Someone correct me if wrong but I don't think he talks much about ufo's, maybe since they're not part of his theories.

Claudius · August 05, 2015, 01:58:25 AM

Also a good point, usually only the command crew and officers know exactly where they are

AppealPlay · August 05, 2015, 01:58:41 AM

Best show thus far. Awesome, awesome call astroguy!

ShayP · August 05, 2015, 01:59:04 AM

Lost the call...lost the show...wtf?

Textor · August 05, 2015, 01:59:10 AM

Quote from: zeebo on August 05, 2015, 01:58:08 AM
Someone correct me if wrong but I don't think he talks much about ufo's, maybe since they're not part of his theories.

Maybe they are the last remnants of the precursor civilization, reminding us to look to the stars for the bones and find the 19.5 libraries on Pluto.

astroguy · August 05, 2015, 01:59:17 AM

Quote from: MichaelFromVA on August 05, 2015, 01:58:41 AM
Best show thus far. Awesome, awesome call astroguy!

Thank you. I tried to stay calm. Being ridiculously tired helped. :

Claudius · August 05, 2015, 01:59:49 AM

Quote from: MichaelFromVA on August 05, 2015, 01:58:41 AM
Best show thus far. Awesome, awesome call astroguy!

Yup astro you need to call more. Have really in depth science questions to ask him, you can totally trip him up.

GeorgieForPresident2216 · August 05, 2015, 02:00:09 AM

No, Richard, the Earth's rotation isn't changing by a second a year. The Earth's rotation is slowing but not by that much. A day is just a fraction of a second longer than 24 hours (now) so after many, many days, those little fractions add up to a full second and have to be accounted for. Even if the Earth's rotation stopped slowing completely that would still be the case.

whiptrackercracker · August 05, 2015, 02:00:14 AM

Quote from: Claudius on August 05, 2015, 01:58:25 AM
Also a good point, usually only the command crew and officers know exactly where they are

Yeah and there is a good chance that those level of "fluctuations" are so inept that it's not something command wants to hear reports on. That is unless they are conducting research into that exact question. It is actually quite the valuable research question though.

Claudius · August 05, 2015, 02:00:18 AM

Quote from: astroguy on August 05, 2015, 01:59:17 AM
Thank you. I tried to stay calm. Being ridiculously tired helped. :

Bah its only 3 here in CO

UnfamiliarWind · August 05, 2015, 02:00:53 AM

Never forget C3PO's head on the moon.

ShayP · August 05, 2015, 02:00:59 AM

I was using the Dark Matter pop-up player and it just died.

astroguy · August 05, 2015, 02:01:29 AM

Quote from: Claudius on August 05, 2015, 02:00:18 AM
Bah its only 3 here in CO

Yeah, I'm in CO, too, but I only got a 1-hr nap today.

lonevoice · August 05, 2015, 02:01:50 AM

Quote from: MichaelFromVA on August 05, 2015, 01:58:41 AM
Best show thus far. Awesome, awesome call astroguy!

Agree. That was one for the memory books. Thank you, Stuart.

ShayP · August 05, 2015, 02:02:03 AM

Hoagie needs to manage open lines better. He let that one guy ramble for 10 minutes.

zeebo · August 05, 2015, 02:02:36 AM

Quote from: Textor on August 05, 2015, 01:59:10 AM
Maybe they are the last remnants of the precursor civilization, reminding us to look to the stars for the bones and find the 19.5 libraries on Pluto.

See now that's clever thinking - someone needs to suggest that to him one of these nights. We should do an experiment and see if we can subtly alter his theories over time.

Claudius · August 05, 2015, 02:02:52 AM

Quote from: astroguy on August 05, 2015, 02:01:29 AM
Yeah, I'm in CO, too, but I only got a 1-hr nap today.

Yikes, plus you're in Boulder... good luck on 36 in the morning.

Jackstar · August 05, 2015, 02:03:04 AM

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on August 05, 2015, 01:39:13 AM
I hope to use the words "you're wrong, why?" a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV0x4XHdbyc

Claudius · August 05, 2015, 02:04:20 AM

Quote from: astroguy on August 05, 2015, 02:01:29 AM
Yeah, I'm in CO, too, but I only got a 1-hr nap today.

Heres a serious question for you before I go to bed. Have you ever worked with Air Force Space Command? I have a friend she is a captain over there and the stuff that they actually do that she can't tell me about seems quite.... over the top.

astroguy · August 05, 2015, 02:04:27 AM

Quote from: Claudius on August 05, 2015, 02:02:52 AM
Yikes, plus you're in Boulder... good luck on 36 in the morning.

Lyons, and I'm working from home this week.

AppealPlay · August 05, 2015, 02:05:05 AM

Night, guys. I hope tomorrow's show is just as good!

Again, Astroguy is confirmed to be Jesus.

astroguy · August 05, 2015, 02:05:08 AM

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on August 05, 2015, 02:00:09 AM
No, Richard, the Earth's rotation isn't changing by a second a year. The Earth's rotation is slowing but not by that much. A day is just a fraction of a second longer than 24 hours (now) so after many, many days, those little fractions add up to a full second and have to be accounted for. Even if the Earth's rotation stopped slowing completely that would still be the case.

Which Wikipedia helpfully explains here in a lovely chart part-way down the page.