The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[astroguy]

isnt whitley the ass probe guy?

Yes.

[ShayP]

isnt whitley the ass probe guy?

LOL! Yep.  In the movie.

[SciFiAuthor]

Really?  Damn, I was sure that was you.

Wish so, but no, it's not. You'll know it if I get on. Look for a hair complement.

[ShayP]

I am using it on the computer. Easy to use and install (I am not very Mac savvy, which is what I am using) so if I can do it...

So I at least need a microphone.  Camera?

[astroguy]

Okay, now I sorta remember what I was trying to get out of Richard at the end, or at least to show: He's horribly inconsistent.  Official government photos are perfectly legit (if they show what he wants, like the Chinese photos), but they are totally illegit, too (if they don't show what he wants, like LRO, Kaguya, etc.).  It's B.S. and I hope that came through.

And Hoagie is just going off now on how he's waiting for the "real" stuff to be put in the official government archives.  So which is it -- is stuff that's "official" real or fake?  Make up your f---ing mind!

[Textor]

No, please ... no ... I'm going to have nightmares about that.  I'm already in the fetal position just thinking about it.

For the record, I have written papers (actual peer-reviewed papers) on image analysis and done many podcasts on image processing (see the second heading, "Anomalies and Images").

Oh, but he has secret technologies so obviously your peer reviewed research is inferior to his secret tech.

[Asadora]

Serious debate regarding the politics behind a supposed nuclear war that happened half a billion years ago on a different planet. Only on the Other Side of Midnight.

Funny funny and so true!

haha - thanks for the giggle!

[astroguy]

Oh, but he has secret technologies so obviously your peer reviewed research is inferior to his secret tech.

But, but ... I have 20.5! It's a whole 1 more than his puny 19.5.

[lonevoice]

I got it.  He obviously didn't or didn't want to.

Richard got it, you can be sure of that.

[nooryisawesome]

Gonna be a rough one after two martinis, but I think the key is to put Hoagland on the defensive. I'm going to ask him why anyone would build domes on planets and moons when an advanced civilization would use nanotech and then lead into an attack on Hoagland for living in the 1950's with his futurism. I hope to use the words "you're wrong, why?" a lot. Hope I get through.

You did well. I like the fact you were respectful. Hoagland is not Noory.

[AppealPlay]

Richard is insane but lovable in an avuncular way.

[Royal_Tenenbaum]

isnt whitley the ass probe guy?

Yup. He rambled on Dark Matter about how South Park cruelly and specifically mocked his alien ass rape. He did give us The Wolfen, Hunger, and Communion. So there's that. But his ego and sensitivity are so easily affronted.

[whiptrackercracker]

So I at least need a microphone.  Camera?

No camera, not for these shows. Only for if you want to video chat with someone. I would recommend a headset. You can get a logitech headset for like 20 dollars that works just fine.

[Claudius]

No, please ... no ... I'm going to have nightmares about that.  I'm already in the fetal position just thinking about it.

For the record, I have written papers (actual peer-reviewed papers) on image analysis and done many podcasts on image processing (see the second heading, "Anomalies and Images").

THEY DON'T HAVE EXPLANATIONS! Actually they do have potential explanations for what you see. 

[Textor]

But, but ... I have 20.5! It's a whole 1 more than his puny 19.5.

Given enough time, he will likely find a way to convert your 20.5 into 19.5 again.

[Royal_Tenenbaum]

Richard is insane but lovable in an avuncular way.

More like carbuncular.

[ShayP]

No camera, not for these shows. Only for if you want to video chat with someone. I would recommend a headset. You can get a logitech headset for like 20 dollars that works just fine.

Thanks! 

[astroguy]

So let me get this straight ... Richard is now telling the caller what his question is?

[Claudius]

And Hoagie is just going off now on how he's waiting for the "real" stuff to be put in the official government archives.  So which is it -- is stuff that's "official" real or fake?  Make up your f---ing mind!

Moving the goal post.

[zeebo]

Did I just understand him to say the gov't images are concealing the truth as part of the cover-up, but also at the same time since the truth is in there in cryptic form they can claim they never hid anything later?

[Textor]

So let me get this straight ... Richard is now telling the caller what his question is?

He knew what your question was, he didn't even need to hear it!

[AppealPlay]

So let me get this straight ... Richard is now telling the caller what his question is?

No matter what the question is Richard will talk about what he wants to talk about.

[astroguy]

THEY DON'T HAVE EXPLANATIONS! Actually they do have potential explanations for what you see.

Ug. That was really annoying, too.  He was playing such b.s. games with semantics there and when I called him on it, he utterly refused to admit it.

[Claudius]

Our nuclear submarines do not travel from station A to station B moron. They stay at sea for several months. And also, did you ask her? Dude she is an engineer on one of a nuclear subs, you think she is going to start spilling secrets about outputs from the reactors?

[lonevoice]

Wish so, but no, it's not. You'll know it if I get on. Look for a hair complement.

Of course!   

[whiptrackercracker]

No matter what the question is Richard will talk about what he wants to talk about.

Yeah he has always seemed to be a guided agenda type guy. I was floored when I heard he had his own show now. I just had to see the circus for myself.

[astroguy]

Moving the goal post.

Me or him?  I think he's doing more of an Inconsistency fallacy rather than specifically moving the goalpost, but I could be wrong.

[nooryisawesome]

Clearly you are all haters 19.5

[astroguy]

No matter what the question is Richard will talk about what he wants to talk about.

RCH Proverb #19.5.

[UnfamiliarWind]

I'd love to call RCH in but I feel like I don't know his theories well enough to formulate a cogent question.

This might be a dumb question but has RCH ever addressed WHO built all these monuments on other planets? Does he just leave it at "aliens"? Is it a specific "breed" (like the Greys)? Human ancestors? Does he believe in UFOs?

I feel like I heard this guy 100x on C2C and never paid attention to what he was actually saying. Now I'm trying to piece together his extremely complex theories.