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President Donald J. Trump

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albrecht

Quote from: starrmtn001 on March 14, 2016, 03:52:54 PM
LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Vienna, OH (3-14-16)

https://youtu.be/2xtYGBGHodA
How dare he speak or give a speech? This is outrageous. Speech is reserved solely for leftists or minorities. A straight, white, successful, male has no place in our society to speak and hopefully the government or some activists will shut him up.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: PKaiser on March 14, 2016, 03:57:52 PM
Segundus, PKaiser here, pleasure to address you.

I'd like to give you something to think about: the United States of America was built on the freedom of the individual and there is no need for campaign finance reform in any way. If abortion rights are the most important thing to you shouldn't you have the right to give your money to Planned Parenthood so that they can get the ears of politicians in DC? If gun rights are what float your boat shouldn't you be free to donate to the NRA so they can plead your case? You should in no way be stopped from giving any amount of money to a candidate or a lobby. It's basic freedom of speech.

Besides, what we have is a REPRESENTATIONAL REPUBLIC and NOT a democracy. Giving money to lobbying groups is part of that representation and should never be hindered.

If giving money to politicians is connected to free speech, it's even better connected to some other practices: bribery and corruption. At a certain point, a contribution starts to become a bribe. That's how things work.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on March 14, 2016, 03:21:46 PM
So presidential:

https://youtu.be/OkSRJSUY0vs

He is right you know.  And women know that too.

Not a single woman above a 3.  All frumpy feminists looking indignant, and they all thirsty for The Donald's attention.

They hate he is successful and has an stunningly beautiful wife he lavishes on, while they have to get up everyday and work some shit job and have no male attention.  It really burns them up.

onan

Quote from: PKaiser on March 14, 2016, 03:57:52 PM
Segundus, PKaiser here, pleasure to address you.

I'd like to give you something to think about: the United States of America was built on the freedom of the individual and there is no need for campaign finance reform in any way. If abortion rights are the most important thing to you shouldn't you have the right to give your money to Planned Parenthood so that they can get the ears of politicians in DC? If gun rights are what float your boat shouldn't you be free to donate to the NRA so they can plead your case? You should in no way be stopped from giving any amount of money to a candidate or a lobby. It's basic freedom of speech.

Besides, what we have is a REPRESENTATIONAL REPUBLIC and NOT a democracy. Giving money to lobbying groups is part of that representation and should never be hindered.
Planned Parenthood and the NRA are not the boogey man in regards to campaign finance reform. And yes people should be able to donate to their interests. However, politicians might be concerned with Planned Parenthood and the NRA, but by and large those organizations are not the ones buying politicians. The Koch brothers have been pointed out to be spending over 800 billion dollars in this election cycle. That isn't free speech, no matter how you try to spin it. That is big oil gaming the system.

albrecht

Quote from: onan on March 14, 2016, 04:23:09 PM
Planned Parenthood and the NRA are not the boogey man in regards to campaign finance reform. And yes people should be able to donate to their interests. However, politicians might be concerned with Planned Parenthood and the NRA, but by and large those organizations are not the ones buying politicians. The Koch brothers have been pointed out to be spending over 800 billion dollars in this election cycle. That isn't free speech, no matter how you try to spin it. That is big oil gaming the system.
Lest we forget even former foreigners like Soros give a lot of money. And Hollywood and Tech moguls. Just about everybody 'pays to play.' I agree with you that it is not NRA, PP, NARAL, etc that corrupts politicians and people do have the right to represent their interests via voting or giving money to groups or politicians. Since, somehow, our courts have considered corporations legal "people" I'm not sure how we can stop it without some serious reform, which is not likely to be passed. The "Iron Triangle" is pretty hard to change or beat and neither side in the two party system enjoy it and voters, usually, blame "the other guys, not MY representative" so won't change anything.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: PKaiser on March 14, 2016, 03:45:47 PM
yet gave the ruffian-in-chief Clinton (and to a lesser extent Kennedy) an absolute pass. I mean, how "presidential" was that Arkansas hillbilly? Really?

Who could forget how he used to jog around in a jumpsuit munching on egg mcmuffins.


albrecht

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 14, 2016, 04:41:09 PM

I hope these women realize that they are reenacting an action that was the central theme in Aristophanes's Lysistrata. In other words a play written by white, European male (the most evil people on earth.)

Quote from: VoteQuimby on March 14, 2016, 04:41:09 PM


And here I thought women wanted to be treated as equal and taken seriously, yet they are going to use their vagina to get what they want?

Liberal women, not even once.

You know there is some beta cuck, friendzoned, Nu-Male, gentle bernie supporter with low Testosterone patting feminists on the back, desperately trying to get a pity fuck thrown his way.

Quote from: albrecht on March 14, 2016, 04:49:11 PM
I hope these women realize that they are reenacting an action that was the central theme in Aristophanes's Lysistrata. In other words a play written by white, European male (the most evil people on earth.)

I could say so many cutting sardonic things that I'm known for but it's just another illustration of how fucked the left is now. Trump supporters are racist bigot nazis who advocate violence and nuclear war who need to have sex cut off until they conform? Conservatives are the ones motivated by fear?

I'm sort of okay with this as every liberal I've experienced who would actually buy into this mindlessness looks like this


What is the logic to that?

Hey liberal women! Out of all the dicks you're taking, if one of them belongs to a guy who has opposing views you may want to hold off putting that one in you for awhile.

Thanks,
Hilanders



PKaiser

Quote from: onan on March 14, 2016, 04:23:09 PM
Planned Parenthood and the NRA are not the boogey man in regards to campaign finance reform. And yes people should be able to donate to their interests. However, politicians might be concerned with Planned Parenthood and the NRA, but by and large those organizations are not the ones buying politicians. The Koch brothers have been pointed out to be spending over 800 billion dollars in this election cycle. That isn't free speech, no matter how you try to spin it. That is big oil gaming the system.

It seems you're willing to overlook George Soros, another billionaire who has donated millions in this cycle and actually helped fund and plan what happened in Chicago last week. He is out front taking credit for it and says there's more to come. But he's on the Democrat's side, so that makes it okay, hmmm?

Oh, and I was using PP and the NRA purely as an example from each side.

GravitySucks

Quote from: onan on March 14, 2016, 04:23:09 PM
Planned Parenthood and the NRA are not the boogey man in regards to campaign finance reform. And yes people should be able to donate to their interests. However, politicians might be concerned with Planned Parenthood and the NRA, but by and large those organizations are not the ones buying politicians. The Koch brothers have been pointed out to be spending over 800 billion dollars in this election cycle. That isn't free speech, no matter how you try to spin it. That is big oil gaming the system.

Since the Koch brothers total net worth is something south of 100 billion, I seriously doubt they are spending 800 billion of it on an election cycle.

PKaiser

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on March 14, 2016, 04:36:21 PM
Who could forget how he used to jog around in a jumpsuit munching on egg mcmuffins.

The pass that cocksucker gets today and got back then still astounds me! It's amazing there are always one set of standards for libtards and another for everyone else. It is absolutely not "American."

PKaiser

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 14, 2016, 05:02:06 PM
Since the Koch brothers total net worth is something south of 100 billion, I seriously doubt they are spending 800 billion of it on an election cycle.

Facts have never mattered to these "people."


VtaGeezer

Quote from: Segundus on March 14, 2016, 02:06:33 PM
Yes.  All this violence is really disturbing.
Violence?  Imagine what the Chicago Loop would have looked like Saturday AM if 10,000 Clinton supporters were told that their rally was cancelled because of well-organized disruption by conservative activists. But, if CNN says some shoving and flaring tempers by a dozen or so out of 10,000 is violence, who's to argue?  And that 130 lb 78 y.o. Willis Nelson wannabee who threw an elbow at the 200 lb protestor in NC; what a thug. 

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: PKaiser on March 14, 2016, 05:04:36 PM
The pass that cocksucker gets today and got back then still astounds me! It's amazing there are always one set of standards for libtards and another for everyone else. It is absolutely not "American."

Yeah, I remember the Clinton presidency well. Like major sex scandals are somehow "presidential".

Trump the United States' first black president. Lawd, give him strength!

norland2424

Quote from: rekcuf on March 14, 2016, 06:20:02 PM
Trump the United States' first black president. Lawd, give him strength!


[Church music playing, with much emphasis on heavy organ solo's] Donald J. Trump-ah! Yaaas'em! *sweats* He's gonna beat-ah! The white-ah! Devil-ah!!! *wipes brow with brightly colored neon kerchief* Amen-ah!!! Hallelujah!!! Hallelujah!!!

Faustina

Quote from: The King of Kings on March 13, 2016, 04:07:24 PM
John Boehner just endorsed Kasich.

I would put that news in the Kasich thread, but there is no Kasich thread.

He'll be gone by Wednesday, so there's little point in creating a thread for him. 

Quote from: Faustina on March 14, 2016, 06:35:45 PM
He'll be gone by Wednesday, so there's little point in creating a thread for him.

LOL @ Boehner.


onan

To PK, I didn't mention Soros. So what? How does that change the argument?

To GS, we don't know how much was actually straight out of the Koch's bank account. We do know that the organization the Koch's established with 300 other members will spend almost 900 million. All under the auspices of Koch's management.

Again both of you are well aware of this. It seems this is more of a "hey democrats are just as guilty. Again, so what? Big money is, as we all agree is corrupting the system.

Look Soros isn't my kind of guy, his money making isn't what I would call healthy either. But he isn't lobbying congress to enact laws that work against the environment and our healthcare.

GravitySucks

Quote from: onan on March 14, 2016, 06:50:55 PM
To PK, I didn't mention Soros. So what? How does that change the argument?

To GS, we don't know how much was actually straight out of the Koch's bank account. We do know that the organization the Koch's established with 300 other members will spend almost 900 million. All under the auspices of Koch's management.

Again both of you are well aware of this. It seems this is more of a "hey democrats are just as guilty. Again, so what? Big money is, as we all agree is corrupting the system.

Look Soros isn't my kind of guy, his money making isn't what I would call healthy either. But he isn't lobbying congress to enact laws that work the environment and our healthcare.

I totally agree too much money is poured into trying to influence the elections. Free speech should come with accountability.

900 million is a lot less than 800 billion. Even in common core math.

akwilly

Odds updated March 14. Clinton -190. Trump +200. Sanders +1000. Cruz +1200. Kasich +2000. Rubio +6600. Romney +7500.

onan

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 14, 2016, 06:53:17 PM
I totally agree too much money is poured into trying to influence the elections. Free speech should come with accountability.

900 million is a lot less than 800 billion. Even in common core math.

Shit, I mistyped. I meant 800 million.

GravitySucks

Quote from: akwilly on March 14, 2016, 06:55:07 PM
Odds updated March 14. Clinton -190. Trump +200. Sanders +1000. Cruz +1200. Kasich +2000. Rubio +6600. Romney +7500.

What? No Ryan?

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