President Donald J. Trump

[starrmtn001]

LIVE STREAM: President Donald Trump Speaks at the NAVY USS Gerald R. Ford (PCU).

https://youtu.be/4IbexUSAD4Q

[Dr. MD MD]

The Trump admin said there was voting fraud. Then said they'd fund a thorough investigation to find out what they alleged they already knew was true because they had evidence, that they couldn't present. Or something.

If Trump is so keen to have that investigation that is a serious thing, why be so reticent to have an independent investigation into Russian hacking that seventeen security departments (plus NATO allies concur) have data on?

The Russians didn't expect Trump to win. Their hacking of the Dems servers was to reveal all after they expected Clinton to win. Now the useful idiot won, they're in a dilemma because Trump is no good to them now, he sucks Putin's dick and will have no ambitions to extend NATO any further into the former SU, the way Bill Clinton did. Putin has never forgiven him for that, and loaths Hilary Clinton because she's Bill's wife, and also wanted more NATO reach.

Putin would live to get the Baltic countries back, Poland and Ukraine. He can't depend on Trump to provoke him, as he could with Clinton. He's told the Russian media to stop reporting on Trump's petulance because he knows the satarists will link him to it. Putin like Trump, hates things he doesn't agree with, and as Trump does, dismisss things he disagrees with as lies.

We should team with Russia to invade England and free your people once and for all. 

[pyewacket]

It's OK! I mixed in some rat poison with the troll food. 

Wrong answer, sweetie. What are you looking to get out of all this? Just to fight with random people on a small forum? If so, carry on- it's your choice.

I've given up on having any real discussions on this thread. There are a few posters who actually do read, have real questions, and seem to actually care about our future- the rest are here to babble.

[Dr. MD MD]

Wrong answer, sweetie. What are you looking to get out of all this? Just to fight with random people on a small forum? If so, carry on- it's your choice.

I've given up on having any real discussions on this thread. There are a few posters who actually do read, have real questions, and seem to actually care about our future- the rest are here to babble.

Fuck 'em then! 

[Yorkshire pud]

We should team with Russia to invade England and free your people once and for all. 

Free? You think Russia is a free country? The USA is rapidly getting the same ethos that Putin employs.

[pyewacket]

Fuck 'em then! 

Eh- you could- but I wouldn't! 

[Dr. MD MD]

Free? You think Russia is a free country? The USA is rapidly getting the same ethos that Putin employs.

Freer than you are, apparently. You can never go "off book" from your petulant elitist ideology and the ghouls you serve.  :

[Lt.Uhura]

. Haha! Note the tone dials for Stupidity and Insanity are cranked up to the max!

[Yorkshire pud]

Wrong answer, sweetie. What are you looking to get out of all this? Just to fight with random people on a small forum? If so, carry on- it's your choice.

I've given up on having any real discussions on this thread. There are a few posters who actually do read, have real questions, and seem to actually care about our future- the rest are here to babble.

Maybe some of us aren't blinkered, and see Trump for what he is. Actually, that should read, Trump, Bannon, Preibus, and the other 'Alternative facts' lie machines.

[Dr. MD MD]

Eh- you could- but I wouldn't! 

Not literally, of course but as far as I know all are still free to weigh-in with their opinions and ideas here. Nothing's stopping them. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Freer than you are, apparently. You can never go "off book" from your petulant elitist ideology and the ghouls you serve.  :

What the fuck do you think you're talking about?

[Dr. MD MD]

Maybe Some of us aren't are blinkered, and that's me!

FIFY 

[Dr. MD MD]

What the fuck do you think you're talking about?

Your confusion isn't surprising to me. I've come to expect it. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Your confusion isn't surprising to me. I've come to expect it. 

I'm confused because of your incoherence.

[pyewacket]

Not literally, of course but as far as I know all are still free to weigh-in with their opinions and ideas here. Nothing's stopping them. 

I never suggested that they should stop; I just questioned why you take them so seriously.

[Dr. MD MD]

I'm confused because of your incoherence.

Anyone ever tell you you're really fucking boring?....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Dr. MD MD]

I never suggested that they should stop; I just questioned why you take them so seriously.

Who said I was? I'm just pointing out who the scumbags are who would use a dead Navy SEAL and his grieving widow to further their own political position. They just suck and they and everyone else here should know it. 

[SredniVashtar]

Who said I was? I'm just pointing out who the scumbags are who would use a dead Navy SEAL and his grieving widow to further their own political position.

Who brought a grieving widow in for a speech, pointed at her, all for some cheap applause?

[starrmtn001]

Wrong answer, sweetie. What are you looking to get out of all this? Just to fight with random people on a small forum? If so, carry on- it's your choice.

I've given up on having any real discussions on this thread. There are a few posters who actually do read, have real questions, and seem to actually care about our future- the rest are here to babble.

[SredniVashtar]

I've given up on having any real discussions on this thread. There are a few posters who actually do read, have real questions, and seem to actually care about our future- the rest are here to babble.

You don't have the courage  of your convictions. You say something, or drop a link, and then don't defend it. Fair enough, but don't pretend you're above it all.

[Dr. MD MD]

Who brought a grieving widow in for a speech, pointed at her, all for some cheap applause?

She was invited, agreed and Obama would've done the exact same thing and you all would've dropped to your knees and hauled his big black chode for it. I can't imagine any bigger hypocrites.

[pyewacket]

Who said I was? I'm just pointing out who the scumbags are who would use a dead Navy SEAL and his grieving widow to further their own political position. They just suck and they and everyone else here should know it. 

We do. We also know who the antagonists are, too.

[Dr. MD MD]

Starr, sorry hun but I refuse to play nice with assholes who want to make political hay out of dead people and those that grieve them. Surely, you're not supporting this?! 

[Dr. MD MD]

We do. We also know who the antagonists are, too.

2 come from Britain. One from Mexico. 

[SredniVashtar]

She was invited, agreed and Obama would've done the exact same thing and you all would've dropped to your knees and hauled his big black chode for it. I can't imagine any bigger hypocrites.

Yes, she was invited. I hadn't thought she'd been kidnapped. And, no, you're just saying the first thing to come into your head about Obama because you have  no argument. It was crass whoever did it, and anyone who thought otherwise is an idiot.

[Dr. MD MD]

Yes, she was invited. I hadn't thought she'd been kidnapped. And, no, you're just saying the first thing to come into your head about Obama because you have  no argument. It was crass whoever did it, and anyone who thought otherwise is an idiot.

You're being disingenuous. You know Obama would've done the same thing in the same circumstance. They all do.

[SredniVashtar]

You're being disingenuous. You know Obama would've done the same thing in the same circumstance. They all do.

No, that was uniquely Trumpian. First deny that he had anything to do with it, blaming other people for it. Then drag on the wife  to try and claim posthumous credit for it. Truly vomworthy.

[Dr. MD MD]

No, that was uniquely Trumpian. First deny that he had anything to do with it, blaming other people for it. Then drag on the wife  to try and claim posthumous credit for it. Truly vomworthy.

You and your "nation" are the only things that are vomit-worthy.  :

[Yorkshire pud]

You're being disingenuous. You know Obama would've done the same thing in the same circumstance. They all do.

The point is, Trump DID do it. Obama didn't.

[GravitySucks]

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The Russians didn't expect Trump to win. Their hacking of the Dems servers was to reveal all after they expected Clinton to win. Now the useful idiot won, they're in a dilemma because Trump is no good to them now, he sucks Putin's dick and will have no ambitions to extend NATO any further into the former SU, the way Bill Clinton did. Putin has never forgiven him for that, and loaths Hilary Clinton because she's Bill's wife, and also wanted more NATO reach.
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The Russians might very well have hacked the DNC servers, the Clinton email servers and Podesta's gmail account, but I don't believe they were the only ones and I don't believe they were the ones that released the info to WikiLeaks.

You said yourself they expected to use the info after Hillary won.

Then why release the DNC info in July? There is more evidence that Seth Rich was the sour for WikiLeaks than the Russians.

The Clinton emails on WikiLeaks were not the result of hacks, they were the result of FOIA requests that Assange copied from the state dept website and then indexed.

The Podesta emails were released before the election as well.

Maybe the Russians did hack the Clinton server and planned to use the 30,000plus emails that she had deleted against her after the election, but that certainly did not influence the election.