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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

starrmtn001

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 05:59:39 PM
Yeah, I've heard that.  It could very well be true.  Anyway Trump just could have said, I can't hear you Jake. The earphone is bad.  It also sounds like a convenient excuse.  We shall see how it goes.

Is MV over 35?  I'm so ready to write him in.  PRAISE MV, VOTE MV! ;) ;D

GravitySucks

Quote from: starrmtn001 on February 29, 2016, 06:02:27 PM
Is MV over 35?  I'm so ready to write him in.  PRAISE MV, VOTE MV! ;) ;D

36, if I remember correctly.

But his wife is a terrorist. Not sure he can get a clearance.

starrmtn001

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 29, 2016, 06:03:24 PM
36, if I remember correctly.

But his wife is a terrorist. Not sure he can get a clearance.
Then he's eligible! ;D

starrmtn001

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 29, 2016, 06:03:24 PM
36, if I remember correctly.

But his wife is a terrorist. Not sure he can get a clearance.
No, she's not.  I'm not going to argue with you.

Quote from: Faustina on February 29, 2016, 05:50:47 PM
You've heard by now that Trump had bad earphones that prevented him from hearing the question about the KKK correctly, right?  I'm inclined to believe that was the issue, for to Trump to not immediately disavow the KKK makes no sense.  He'd know that would be a dumb move that would aim racism criticism towards him -- as indeed happened.

Megyn Kelly is going into full cunt mode against Trump using this non-story to tarnish him personally.

What a vapid scorned bimbo.

Quote from: GravitySucks on February 29, 2016, 06:03:24 PM
36, if I remember correctly.

But his wife is a terrorist. Not sure he can get a clearance.


Yeah, maybe in 50 years if the people of the world can quash the Islamic radicals.  Maybe then, an Islamic first lady.

starrmtn001

Quote from: The King of Kings on February 29, 2016, 06:06:28 PM
Megyn Kelly is going into full cunt mode against Trump using this non-story to tarnish him personally.

What a vapid scorned bimbo.
Reported for ingesting stupidity, beyond the legal limit!

Quote from: The King of Kings on February 29, 2016, 06:06:28 PM
Megyn Kelly is going into full cunt mode against Trump using this non-story to tarnish him personally.

What a vapid scorned bimbo.

Why do you watch that crap?  I stopped watching the talking heads years ago.

GravitySucks

Quote from: starrmtn001 on February 29, 2016, 06:06:28 PM
No, she's not.  I'm not going to argue with you.

His words, not mine.

Jackstar

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 05:54:02 PM
I was a supporter of Nixon at the wee age of 5.

Well--you're consistent.


Quote from: Jackstar on February 29, 2016, 06:09:11 PM
Well--you're consistent.

That I am.  I was split in the '76 election.   The aw-shucks country charm of Carter appealed to me while Ford didn't do much for me.  I had no stake in that race at the time though I would later regret the election of Carter.  Reagan really appealed to me and I've been a Republican ever since.

Still, I listened to the election results  of '76 on my little radio in my bed through the wee morning hours.

Faustina

Quote from: The King of Kings on February 29, 2016, 06:06:28 PM
Megyn Kelly is going into full cunt mode against Trump using this non-story to tarnish him personally.

What a vapid scorned bimbo.

She is really riding this "Trump feud" fame bump for all it's worth.  Probably expects it will sell more books.

starrmtn001

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 06:14:38 PM
That I am.  I was split in the '76 election.   The aw-shucks country charm of Carter appealed to me while Ford didn't do much for me.  I had no stake in that race at the time though I would later regret the election of Carter.  Reagan really appealed to me and I've been a Republican ever since.

Still, I listened to the election results  of '76 on my little radio in my bed through the wee morning hours.
I found Ford's Malaprop's endearing, though I wound up voting for Carter, I think.  I forgot.  I want some Mead now.

Quote from: starrmtn001 on February 29, 2016, 06:19:33 PM
I found Ford's Malaprop's endearing, though I wound up voting for Carter, I think.  I forgot.  I want some Mead now.

I'm not sure who my parents voted for.  Mom liked Carter a whole lot.  Dad was harder to read during that election.  I think he probably voted for Ford but didn't talk much about it.  My parents had been Kennedy Democrats but they went to the right as they got older.  Dad was far right in his last years, ears always glued to Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage.

starrmtn001

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 06:24:41 PM
I'm not sure who my parents voted for.  Mom liked Carter a whole lot.  Dad was harder to read during that election.  I think he probably voted for Ford but didn't talk much about it.  My parents had been Kennedy Democrats but they went to the right as they got older.  Dad was far right in his last years, ears always glued to Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage.
I started off as a Dem.  Then, as I got older, I went Rep.  When actual adulthood finally kicked in, I became an Independent, which I've been ever since.

GravitySucks

Quote from: starrmtn001 on February 29, 2016, 06:19:33 PM
I found Ford's Malaprop's endearing, though I wound up voting for Carter, I think.  I forgot.  I want some Mead now.

Ford screwed up in one debate. "the Poles are a totally independent and autonomous people". I still remember cringing at that line. In a nuanced manner, he probably knew what he meant, but they were sure under the boot of the USSR at the time.

Funny how 4-6 years later, Reagan capitalized on the independence seeking Poles and their Solidairty movement to begin his victory over the Cold War.

Quote from: starrmtn001 on February 29, 2016, 06:28:39 PM
I started off as a Dem.  Then, as I got older, I went Rep.  When actual adulthood finally kicked in, I became an Independent, which I've been ever since.

I've been trending Independent for a while now though I'd vote for a Republican in a heartbeat over a Democrat in most instances.  This election might be the last straw but then again maybe not.  It takes an effort to go out and change my registration and I've got better things to do.  Dad was a registered Democrat until he died though he hadn't voted as a Democrat in a major election since at least the 70's.  In later years, he always pointed out he was a registered Democrat.  He loved the ironic humor of it.

Faustina

Sometimes I feel like Trump is just running for President coz he's an egoist, and he's riding this Fame Train for all it's worth and lapping up the attention coz he's addicted to it like heroin.  Yes, he was famous before, but I dare say he's more famous now.

Other times, I think he's a plant of the Clintons to ensure that Hillary will win --- coz he definitely won't win as the Republican nominee, "they all" know, and she'll coast into the White House.  What Trump gets out of this deal, I'm not sure.  Perhaps favors when she's installed as President?

Still other times I think Trump genuinely feels he has what it takes to "make America great again."  If so, I'd love to start hearing more specifics from him on how he plans to do this (other than The Wall he's gonna put up).

All in all, pretty fascinating stuff.  Political theater like I've never seen before. 

starrmtn001

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
I've been trending Independent for a while now though I'd vote for a Republican in a heartbeat over a Democrat in most instances.  This election might be the last straw but then again maybe not.  It takes an effort to go out and change my registration and I've got better things to do.  Dad was a registered Democrat until he died though he hadn't voted as a Democrat in a major election since at least the 70's.  In later years, he always pointed out he was a registered Democrat.  He loved the ironic humor of it.
All of my voting life, I've been a person over party voter.  I can certainly appreciate your Dad's humor. ;) ;D

starrmtn001

Quote from: Faustina on February 29, 2016, 06:39:15 PM
Still other times I think Trump genuinely feels he has what it takes to "make America great again."  If so, I'd love to start hearing more specifics from him on how he plans to do this (other than The Wall he's gonna put up).

All in all, pretty fascinating stuff.  Political theater like I've never seen before.
I so agree with you here Faustina.

Quote from: Faustina on February 29, 2016, 06:39:15 PM
Sometimes I feel like Trump is just running for President coz he's an egoist, and he's riding this Fame Train for all it's worth and lapping up the attention coz he's addicted to it like heroin.  Yes, he was famous before, but I dare say he's more famous now.

Other times, I think he's a plant of the Clintons to ensure that Hillary will win --- coz he definitely won't win as the Republican nominee, "they all" know, and she'll coast into the White House.  What Trump gets out of this deal, I'm not sure.  Perhaps favors when she's installed as President?

Still other times I think Trump genuinely feels he has what it takes to "make America great again."  If so, I'd love to start hearing more specifics from him on how he plans to do this (other than The Wall he's gonna put up).

All in all, pretty fascinating stuff.  Political theater like I've never seen before.

I agree with all 3 points. Point number one turns me off deeply.  I used to dismiss the second point but now I am taking it a bit more seriously.  Regarding the 3rd point, yes he needs to elaborate beyond saying it is going to be unbelievable, fantastic et al.

Quote from: starrmtn001 on February 29, 2016, 06:42:14 PM
All of my voting life, I've been a person over party voter.  I can certainly appreciate your Dad's humor. ;) ;D

Yeah,he was one of a kind.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 05:54:02 PM
I really have no idea if Trump is a racist but the media and the Democratic party are going to target him as a racist and provide clips like the Tapper interview and they will succeed once more. LOL, the Nixon reference.  I was a supporter of Nixon at the wee age of 5.  That is how far my Republican roots go.  I had a part in persuading my parents to vote for him in '72.  Part of the reason, I believe in past lives.  Where does this shit come from?

I think the Dems are worried. I'm sure they'll try to paint Trump with a war on the minorities schtick, but the variables for Trump are completely different than for any other candidate. The Dems have a problem, internally they know that while people will vote for Hillary, few in the party actually like her. They also know that Trump won't follow the rules and will hit Hillary constantly with her past. Trump can't be beat regarding ratings for news stations, so for the first time in my memory the coverage won't be stacked against the Republican candidate, as it was for Romney who damned nearly disappeared for months at one point from the media eye. That said, Trump can also monumentally screw up in ways the might not have been able to do in the primaries.

I was fascinated with politics by the age of 8 and well remember loving Firing Line. William F. Buckley is my Big Bird. That said, I started out as a voter as a libertarian, grew more pragmatic with age and joined the GOP, then during W. I left it and went independent moderate softcore libertarian. I'd still be there, but Ron and Rand Paul sort of enticed me back into the fray of the GOP but I'm far from a social conservative. My support of Trump stems from the fact that I do not believe it is possible for the GOP to win any longer with the layout of the electoral college map. Only a wildcard can defeat Hillary, and the only wildcard up there is Trump.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 03:50:56 PM

This is not a biased media clip.  It is simply Trump in his own words.  I agree with you and SFAuthor about the media.  They are terrible.  I posted the Jake Tapper clip earlier because while it may have been a gotcha question, it was one that should have been easily answered and Trump repeatedly sidestepped it. That is his fault not Tapper's.

Definitely not a gotcha question. Candidates get asked the same question all the time when there's a questionable endorsement. Cruz just got asked recently about the endorsement of that controversial midwest preacher. Also, Tapper was not expecting Trump's answer. Who could possibly have expected that? It was a dumb move and Trump is not dumb.

Zoo

Dems and the GOP are all freaking the fuck out. They think they got Bernie beat and they just might. Most Democrats are to dumb to realise that Hillary is so full of shit. She is going to lie and cheat her way in. As for the Republicans they do not know what the hell to do besides freak the hell out. So it looks like Hillary and Trump will be facing off. But I heard that if it is going to be Trump and Hillary then Jesse Ventura will enter the race!!1

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Faustina on February 29, 2016, 05:50:47 PM
You've heard by now that Trump had bad earphones that prevented him from hearing the question about the KKK correctly, right?  I'm inclined to believe that was the issue, for to Trump not to immediately disavow the KKK makes no sense.  He'd know that would be a dumb move that would aim racism criticism towards him -- as indeed happened.

There's no clear explanation, that's for sure. But the bad audio excuse is not flying on Fox. They are doing a good job demonstrating that he did hear the question very well and botched the answer. And that's Fox, mind you.

Is Trump a racist? I don't know, but I do know he has other problems which make him a no-go as POTUS.

Designx

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on February 29, 2016, 12:06:50 PM
Yeah, but we're not talking about Democrat voters here, we're talking about our older GOP voters. I have some respect for those folks and the fact is Cruz spent money trying to trick them and then wouldn't apologize for it. And then we get into the "Ben Carson quit the Campaign" stuff, which probably hurt Carson. I'm not a Carson supporter, but he's one of the few people in the field that has maintained my respect. He deserved better.

I have no respect for Cruz. His campaign sent my mother an email using my dead grandmother's name claiming she wanted my mother to vote for Cruz and donate $5. What an ahole.

Quote from: Designx on February 29, 2016, 09:27:19 PM
I have no respect for Cruz. His campaign sent my mother an email using my dead grandmother's name claiming she wanted my mother to vote for Cruz and donate $5. What an ahole.

Whoa, what context was the letter?

Did it specifically refer to your Grandmother as someone who passed away, and urging your Mom to honor her memory by voting for Ted?

Faustina

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 29, 2016, 06:45:59 PM
I agree with all 3 points. Point number one turns me off deeply.  I used to dismiss the second point but now I am taking it a bit more seriously.  Regarding the 3rd point, yes he needs to elaborate beyond saying it is going to be unbelievable, fantastic et al.

The funny thing is, I usually feel like I know:  at least to the degree of a "gut feeling."  In this case, I bounce back and forth equally between the three scenarios depending on what sort of clues I'm gleaning from internet or TV.  I'd prefer to think it's the 3rd theory that's correct:  that he genuinely believes he can make America better.  Even if that's the case, though, he could find his fine ideals well hog-tied by the restrictions of Congress once he gets to the White House -- assuming he does.  I'm expecting he'll lose to Hillary.

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