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20150911 - Art Bell, Open Lines - Live Chat Thread

Started by MV/Liberace!, September 11, 2015, 06:53:06 PM

Sean92008

Quote from: ShayP on September 11, 2015, 11:39:37 PM
You don't need that added pressure.

Pressure+heat+moisture+motion...  Pleasure in life. 

Fuck service to humanity.  I mean fuck to service humanity.  :P

WhiteCrow

Quote from: ManiacMatt on September 11, 2015, 11:25:28 PM
Most of the founding fathers were atheists (Franklin) and deists at best.  I believe Jefferson was a deist. Most were not Christians.

Need to study your history a bit more. There were a lot more founding fathers that were Christians.

AvDaBr

Quote from: WhiteCrow on September 11, 2015, 11:36:47 PM
So you want to live in a completely secular society that doesn't have the any influence from religions?

No religionist schools to offer an alternative to substandard public school districts?

If you've seen many of his posts you'd know he's being facetious.

henge0stone

Quote from: coaster on September 11, 2015, 11:36:43 PM
I think anyone who claims they know for sure what the universe and life is all about are ignorant, self-righteous dickheads. Be they atheists or god fearing folk. We know jack shit.

yep, that's why these debates suck.

WanagoBleu


The problem with morality and golden rules maybe that they change depending on who's making the terms of those rules. Atheism skates around this issue and applies some sort of Ultilitarian scheme, what does the most good, etc.

Quote from: norland2424 on September 11, 2015, 11:41:27 PM
well he did get paid for that ad

Exactly. If you get paid to endorse something what else are you being paid to endorse? Credibility!

Zenman

Quote from: Sandra Kristen on September 11, 2015, 11:38:00 PM
Because who cares? The answer will always be the same. People don't need someone above them to tell them how they should behave. To even suggest such is almost offensive. I am actually disturbed by people that ask such a question, because I am wondering if they are evil people that are only not being evil because they believe in some god judging them. That is a very scary thought.

Yep. Some great points.

zeebo

I'd honestly rather hear a debate on Star Wars vs. Star Trek.


RoseGirl

Matt is very manipulative and just tries to polarize every argument. Dat's my take.



Sean92008

I blame Art Bell! 

I'll post later when I figure out what I blame him for.


ShayP

Quote from: Sean92008 on September 11, 2015, 11:41:51 PM
Pressure+heat+moisture+motion...  Pleasure in life. 

Fuck service to humanity.  I mean fuck to service humanity.  :P



albrecht

Quote from: henge0stone on September 11, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
yep, that's why these debates suck.
I want a real nihilist or someone as a guest/caller and take the theory to the limits. No FCC hear, but I agree no cussing. ISIS here? Or a real Satanist or neo-con? come on....




Quote from: WhiteCrow on September 11, 2015, 11:36:47 PM
So you want to live in a completely secular society that doesn't have the any influence from religions?

No religionist schools to offer an alternative to substandard public school districts?

Sounds like he wants a state religion, which is what we're going to get
once the government starts taxing churches that won't perform
same-sex marriages.

Dr_Blue

If you are a guest, you might be picked up at the airport in>>>>





Morgus

This debate would only be good if it was Bill the AAA vs JC Jr

zeebo

I've often thought that there is no more noble person than an altruistic athiest.  I mean, they're not angling for any afterlife perks - just being nice for the sake of it.

Manx

Actually this guy Matt has grown on me. He's representing the typical spineless attitude that people who proclaim themselves to be atheists take when asked to stand by one solid belief in something. He weasels out of the question and at the same time is empowered by Art who is clueless enough in the art of debating and frothing at the mouth for controversy and fireworks that he just lets Matt get away with it and takes his side.


More shows like this please, Art. Listener numbers don't mean anything

TigerLily

Quote from: zeebo on September 11, 2015, 11:43:22 PM
I'd honestly rather hear a debate on Star Wars vs. Star Trek.
I'd buy an extra TT subscription for that!

Quote from: QuantumMystics on September 11, 2015, 11:41:42 PM
How can you measure empathy, you would have to crawl into that persons mind to measure it, if they don't tell you, then you cannot know it, they have no "empathic essence" that you can measure, you have to take what they say at face value, and then if not then it doesn't mean what they say it means, the entire description sounds metaphysical.

I'm sure there is a more rigorous diagnostic definition but if I ever knew it, I've forgotten what it was.

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