20150911 - Art Bell, Open Lines - Live Chat Thread

[coaster]

I think anyone who claims they know for sure what the universe and life is all about are ignorant, self-righteous dickheads. Be they atheists or god fearing folk. We know jack shit.

[WanagoBleu]

You did better than me.

hey, you did fine 😁

[WhiteCrow]

Jefferson is a racist, old, dead, white guy and should be shamed, if not eliminated, from our history like all the others....

So you want to live in a completely secular society that doesn't have the any influence from religions?

No religionist schools to offer an alternative to substandard public school districts?

[Designx]

Theists use morality and natural laws as an explanation for human's being different from animals and thus "designed" by a creator who had a similar moral nature. The other side would argue that evolution would weed out the less social humans - and those that lived on had developed a more domesticated nature.

[albrecht]

Why is that the dumbest thing ever, Sandra? Just curious.

I'm waiting though it probably won't happen for a real "satanist, Crowley, Christian sect, Hindoo, racists, ISIS, or "whatever" guest, or caller, to go full-bore: why on the extremes of "do what tho whilst" or "breaking taboos for tantric purity" or "pure bloodlines" or whatever etc? Crazy guests seems to stop at a certain point? Logically, things like murder, spells to kill others, rape, pedophilia, race wars, global annihilation, etc etc should be acceptable? Where are the witches, or whatever, don't go full on to the doctrine in the logical limits? Heck, even some constant war neo-con "telling his theory as it is..."

[WanagoBleu]

I think anyone who claims they know for sure what the universe and life is all about are ignorant, self-righteous dickheads. Be they atheists or god fearing folk. We know jack shit.

agreed.

[RoseGirl]

oh wow...old tunes

love it

[ShayP]

Oh dear, ShayP.  I misunderstood.  I apologize.

It's all good! No worries!  I've been back and forth.  I couldn't identify any callers and have been lagging on the thread and playing catch up. Jason Mraz made me go sideways. 

[Sandra Kristen]

Why is that the dumbest thing ever, Sandra? Just curious.

Because who cares? The answer will always be the same. People don't need someone above them to tell them how they should behave. To even suggest such is almost offensive. I am actually disturbed by people that ask such a question, because I am wondering if they are evil people that are only not being evil because they believe in some god judging them. That is a very scary thought.

[Juan Cena]

Sociopathy has nothing to do with actually being social or not. In fact, most of them are very adept in social situations, hence the political stigma.

Sociopaths are neither social, nor are they on paths.

Discuss among yourselves.

[zeebo]

... There are individuals on the paranormal board that listen to and enjoy Noory. Chew on that, theists. Where's your god now?

Haha, oh dear.  Best line of the night nominee.

[Weirdoradio]

We're in the home stretch, and ironically enough this may be the only true 'open lines' segment we're going to get this evening.

Here's to hoping someone complains about unmarked black helicopters co-mingling with their crops.

EDIT: NOPE. Did not drop his atheist. Meh.

[Dr_Blue]

Art PRE PRE PRE periscope.

[TheMan WhoFell ToEarth]

Comic book news site. It used to have great forums, but they went downhill after the site was sold, then were scrapped altogether.

4chan has swapped hands from its original creator to a team of admins who have implemented entirely overzealous moderation based solely on personal ideologies on what was once hailed as a unregulated, unchecked bastion of free speech. It's dead. Funny enough, the same has happened to Reddit but Reddit was always geared towards the creation of echo chambers and circlejerks given it's base system involves upvoting and downvoting posts made by others, which of course is always done on basis of emotion rather than merit.

Bellgab may be one of the last true bastions of free speech online. And that's some crazy shit.

/rant.

[ShayP]

Leo Ashcraft keeps asking me what I think about stuff.

You don't need that added pressure.

[ShayP]

Art PRE PRE PRE periscope.

Hoagie NOW. 

[Sean92008]

Art PRE PRE PRE periscope.

Try taking that mic stand to a gig in the backseat of your Geo Metro...

[albrecht]

Art PRE PRE PRE periscope.

Well, that one in the Vatican predates this, right? I recall some show about that....Chronovisor or something?

[WanagoBleu]

Braaaps soon........thank you ice cream!!!!

[RoseGirl]

What makes Matt think science isn't a religion?

[coaster]

If you have doubt, doesn't that make you agnostic? 

[Weirdoradio]

You don't need that added pressure.

He has a person named King Slayer on his staff, he really... shouldn't be asking us what we think our opinion about anything.

[ManiacMatt]

[quote author=Johnny from PA link=topic=8664.msg507805#msg507805 date

If you're right...nothing matters, you die and that's it.

If I'm right...everything matters, you die and deal with the consequences of your actions
which come from your faith, whether in God or man.

Choose wisely...

God is dead.
--Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead.
--God
[/quote]

If god exists, you can't fake belief. You can't simply choose.

[SciFiAuthor]

Hoagie NOW. 

*Checks accutron* 19.5 minutes. Braaps.

[Sandra Kristen]

Leo Ashcraft lost all credibility from me when he endorsed Alongside Night.

[ShayP]

Sociopathy has nothing to do with actually being social or not. In fact, most of them are very adept in social situations, hence the political stigma.

I do quite well.   

[norland2424]

Leo Ashcraft lost all credibility from me when he endorsed Alongside Night.

well he did get paid for that ad

[QuantumMystics]

But antisocial doesn't mean the person can't socialize.  It means they can't empathize and tend to use other people to their own ends.  They can actually be very charming until they get what they want.

How can you measure empathy, you would have to crawl into that persons mind to measure it, if they don't tell you, then you cannot know it, they have no "empathic essence" that you can measure, you have to take what they say at face value, and then if not then it doesn't mean what they say it means, the entire description sounds metaphysical.

[ZomZom]

Altruism <> Morality

[zeebo]

You don't need that added pressure.

It is kinda stressful especially since he doesn't tell us how to answer him.