Art Bell

[awguy]

Noory, he says, has "ruined" the franchise. Noory declined to speak to Time; a spokesperson for his syndicator, Premiere Networks, said the company is "fortunate" to have him.

"Not a chance in hell," Bell says, when asked if he would ever return to his old show. "It's not personal. It's just an institutional hatred. I really hate them."
[/i]

This is the highlight of the whole article for me. Not that there is any new info here but the fact that this is Time Magazine. Not Art's personal Facebook page or posing somewhere online... But Time Freakin Magazine! Bringing out the big guns with this article.

Now all we need is for JC to call in the first night

Monday would be the best day of my life if this happened!

[lonevoice]

I hope this has been of assistance.

Aiiiiirrrrrrr!   

Honestly, even Tommy won't be able to explain that to George. 

And here I was just going to reply to coaster's question with the smart ass comment that Art is not only one of "the haters", Art is the HMFIC!   

[Sardondi]

...Not that there is any new info here but the fact that this is Time Magazine. Not Art's personal Facebook page or posing somewhere online... But Time Freakin Magazine! Bringing out the big guns with this article....

Exactly, exactly, exactly. Legitimacy.

[SaucyRossy]

So just some speculation but while his salary may seem low, the brilliant part is he can get up to half of the profits of the show.

This might just mean commercials BUT could mean half of new subscriptions and if he is splitting half the profits of new subscribers then by god, the man is genius.

Do the math.
Lets say average subscriber pays $16 a month for Sirius.

16x12 months = $192 a year

Now lets say conservatively, he brings in 10k new subscribers.

10k x 192 = 1.92 million

Half of 1.92 million = $960,000

And 10k is VERY conservative.

Plug in 25k new subscribers = $2.4 million for Art. In one year.

NOW this is all very speculative and assumes The profits Sirius will be sharing with Art is new subscribers.


I am also assuming its easy for Sirius to track what users are listening too.

Heck even just profit from commercials would be plenty.

Couple this type of profit sharing with COMPLETE CONTROL, it is a no brainer why Art went with Sirius.

[CampsieNP]

I hope they can track the subscribers and listeners. I also hope Art makes a ton of money.
Good for Art. I could not be happier for him and us!! Four more days...oh my!

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Satellite radio can give you exact figures-since they can just see who is tuned in on what channel. As opposed to Premier RN, who use sampling and surveys.
I have no idea what his contract deal is but it might be something like   people that signed up since Aug 16- and are tuned into Art's broadcast  6 hours per week or something along those lines.

[SaucyRossy]

Satellite radio can give you exact figures-since they can just see who is tuned in on what channel. As opposed to Premier RN, who use sampling and surveys.
I have no idea what his contract deal is but it might be something like   people that signed up since Aug 16- and are tuned into Art's broadcast  6 hours per week or something along those lines.

Yeah I assumed they can track listeners.

So yeah, my numbers are totally spot on. He can possibly make a million or more depending on how many subscribers.

While I said 10-25k, I wouldn't be surprised if he brings 50k-100k especially as word gets out (time magazine will help for sure)

Hell I can look at the analytics of the trailers I posted to YouTube and know that he's going to easily get 15k new subscribers.

[bateman]

Yeah I assumed they can track listeners.

So yeah, my numbers are totally spot on. He can possibly make a million or more depending on how many subscribers.

While I said 10-25k, I wouldn't be surprised if he brings 50k-100k especially as word gets out (time magazine will help for sure)

Hell I can look at the analytics of the trailers I posted to YouTube and know that he's going to easily get 15k new subscribers.

I like your numbers, and I agree, that they're conservative, but I don't think that $16 per subscriber is pure profit. I'm no finance whiz, but they definitely have operating costs..

[SaucyRossy]

I like your numbers, and I agree, that they're conservative, but I don't think that $16 per subscriber is pure profit. I'm no finance whiz, but they definitely have operating costs..

True but even if he splits 12-8 dollars a month from each subscriber with Sirius that's serious (pun!) dough.

[ADG12311990]

For anyone who doesn't want to read through the whole thing, the high points are:

- Ross Mitchell is coming back
- Art signed at least a 3 year deal
- Art clearly isn't doing this for the money, given the salary quoted in the article
- Art says Noory "ruined" Coast, says he will never return to Coast, and says "George can keep them" in regards to the current Coast audience

[phrodo]

Yeah I assumed they can track listeners.

So yeah, my numbers are totally spot on. He can possibly make a million or more depending on how many subscribers.

While I said 10-25k, I wouldn't be surprised if he brings 50k-100k especially as word gets out (time magazine will help for sure)

Hell I can look at the analytics of the trailers I posted to YouTube and know that he's going to easily get 15k new subscribers.

How can Sirius track what a user's radio is tuned to? Sirius sends out the signal but the radio doesn't send a signal back AFAIK. They *could* track internet listeners as there are server logs .. but as far as what any new subscribers to radio are listening to -- not sure how they could possibly do that.

That's just one reason I'm waiting until the 16th to subscribe.

[SaucyRossy]

How can Sirius track what a user's radio is tuned to? Sirius sends out the signal but the radio doesn't send a signal back AFAIK. They *could* track internet listeners as there are server logs .. but as far as what any new subscribers to radio are listening to -- not sure how they could possibly do that.

That's just one reason I'm waiting until the 16th to subscribe.

They know what receivers are accessing what channels because the receiver requests the channel from the Satellite (which I am sure is logged) with the unique user ID
That's just my best guess.

[rarlsatan]

I doubt that they would share subscriber profits with Art, maybe only a small part of subscriptions off of the affiliate link on artbell.com. What they likely mean is that he will get to share in the profits of the ads that are on the show. They likely made this deal so that Art will have added incentive to do a fair amount of ads.

It also means that if Art doesn't feel like doing as many commercials in one night, it's fine. He just doesn't get as much money on that particular night.

I'm not quite sure what they would charge for a 30 sec. spot on SiriusXM, but I bet it's a good amount. A company would likely buy a pack of 10-20 30 second, to 1 minute ads for a few thousand dollars, considering that it's a new show on a less popular SiriusXM channel. Sirius doesn't post listener statistics, but I bet it does give that info to advertisers. If the show proves popular, and Art does an average of 5-10 minutes of ads per hour, he will start making some serious cash.

[onan]

They know what receivers are accessing what channels because the receiver requests the channel from the Satellite (which I am sure is logged) with the unique user ID
That's just my best guess.

Bingo, when you register your radio is given a code number.

[SaucyRossy]

I doubt that they would share subscriber profits with Art, maybe only a small part of subscriptions off of the affiliate link on artbell.com. What they likely mean is that he will get to share in the profits of the  ads that are on the show. They likely made this deal so that Art will have added incentive to do a fair amount of ads.

Of course everything I said was pure speculation BUT the fact that his annual salary is so low and that the 50% profit sharing is only for part of his contract leads me to believe that he will share in the initial profits of new subscribers who sign up for the start of his new show.

That's why I assumed it wasn't just ad revenue they were talking about.

Besides Sirius is going to make plenty of money from Art, with minimal investment (im sure the studio they set up for him cost far less than most think, just due to how advanced technology is now), besides Art is going to be the main programming attraction on a channel that had NO major shows on it.

He's going to make that channel instantly super profitable.

[phrodo]

They know what receivers are accessing what channels because the receiver requests the channel from the Satellite (which I am sure is logged) with the unique user ID
That's just my best guess.

That's not how it works -- all channels are being broadcast/transmitted at all times by the satellite .. the receiver merely tunes to the frequency you want to listen to at the time. The user ID/account number is what identifies the radio to listen via an authorization stream sent out every so often = that's what allows the radio to work/receive/decrypt the signal. Which 'tier' of channels the radio is 'allowed' to receive is also included in that authorization stream.

[SaucyRossy]

I just downloaded Sirius to my iPhone and iPad and started my free trial and all I have to say is WOW.

I did not expect it to be this awesome.

It's like I'm rediscovering radio. Actually good well programmed music channels with no commercials?? My mind is slightly blown.

I've already added Arts show to my favorites and for alerts and downloads. So excited. So close everyone!!!

[bateman]

]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/child-bride-dies-wedding-night-yemen-article-1.1450874]



We are 100% sure Art has not been to Yemen recently right?

:

[bateman]

I just downloaded Sirius to my iPhone and iPad and started my free trial and all I have to say is WOW.

I did not expect it to be this awesome.

It's like I'm rediscovering radio. Actually good well programmed music channels with no commercials?? My mind is slightly blown.

I've already added Arts show to my favorites and for alerts and downloads. So excited. So close everyone!!!

I've been enjoying Opie & Anthony too, it's been a few years since I last heard them.

[SaucyRossy]

That's not how it works -- all channels are being broadcast/transmitted at all times by the satellite .. the receiver merely tunes to the frequency you want to listen to at the time. The user ID/account number is what identifies the radio to listen via an authorization stream sent out every so often = that's what allows the radio to work/receive/decrypt the signal. Which 'tier' of channels the radio is 'allowed' to receive is also included in that authorization stream.

Thanks for straightening that out. I was just guessing anyways. Figured they would have more control over being able to know what people are listening to.

[SaucyRossy]

I've been enjoying Opie & Anthony too, it's been a few years since I last heard them.

Yeah opie and Anthony are fun. So much stuff to listen to, I'm not gonna lie. I'm listening to 1st Wave the 80's new wave channel haha

[The General]

We are 100% sure Art has not been to Yemen recently right?

Jeezus, that was a low blow. 

[Foodlion]

]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/child-bride-dies-wedding-night-yemen-article-1.1450874]



We are 100% sure Art has not been to Yemen recently right?

Tommy is that you?

[phrodo]

Thanks for straightening that out. I was just guessing anyways. Figured they would have more control over being able to know what people are listening to.

They don't know any more than a terrestrial station would... via Arbitron ratings basically. One GREAT way to "vote" for Art is to listen online - that they can indeed track thru server logs and cookies.

It would be righteous if Art's show would have the highest number of internet listeners in the history of SiriusXM.   

[SaucyRossy]

They don't know any more than a terrestrial station would... via Arbitron ratings basically. One GREAT way to "vote" for Art is to listen online - that they can indeed track thru server logs and cookies.

It would be righteous if Art's show would have the highest number of internet listeners in the history of SiriusXM.

Ill be listening through my phone/iPad, same thing right ?

[bateman]

They don't know any more than a terrestrial station would... via Arbitron ratings basically. One GREAT way to "vote" for Art is to listen online - that they can indeed track thru server logs and cookies.

It would be righteous if Art's show would have the highest number of internet listeners in the history of SiriusXM.   

I'm afraid Stern has that distinction, but Art is certainly no lightweight.

[DontFearTheReaper]

I just downloaded Sirius to my iPhone and iPad and started my free trial and all I have to say is WOW.

I did not expect it to be this awesome.

It's like I'm rediscovering radio. Actually good well programmed music channels with no commercials?? My mind is slightly blown.

I've already added Arts show to my favorites and for alerts and downloads. So excited. So close everyone!!!

That's the thing - there is SO much good stuff on there! I got xm back in '07 to try to make my work commute (70 mile daily roundtrip in Chicago) and it pretty much changed my life. I rarely if ever listen to AM/FM anymore - it's either XM or my iPod.

[nooryisawesome]

I am surpised Art didn't get more money in the Sirius deal. I'm sure he could have gotten a better deal elsewhere, but wanted the freedome Sirius offered.

[phrodo]

Ill be listening through my phone/iPad, same thing right ?

Yes - phones/tablets have two-way communication via cell towers and the interweb and their channel usage can indeed be tracked. Getting a signal to a satellite is a different feat ... takes a much larger antenna to do that.   

[Foodlion]

I am surpised Art didn't get more money in the Sirius deal. I'm sure he could have gotten a better deal elsewhere, but wanted the freedome Sirius offered.

What's the amount he was given?