President Donald J. Trump

[Dr. MD MD]

Is that you drinking up whatever Hillary tells you to believe? Did you check that water for Russians first? You normally ridicule every conspiracy theory EXCEPT the one that Hillary tells you to believe, you pathetic cuck.  :

[Value Of Pi]

Donald Trump volunteers are signing a lifelong contract never to criticize him

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/2/12769084/donald-trump-volunteers

Trump voters are, in effect, signing the same kind of contract just by voting for him. Since he has no respect for the law or the principles underlying the law, he'll see votes as oaths of loyaly and any later criticism by his supporters as betrayal.

Being vindictive, like his political role model Putin, he'll look for a way to abuse his power to punish any offenders. But some people are dumb enough to sign up for anything and so they're likely to have some nasty surprises in store for them.

[Dr. MD MD]

Trump probably did that himself. No one could damage his brand as much as he has.

You're just incredibly bad at this. Did they hire from a bus stop?!  :

[albrecht]

You're just incredibly bad at this. Did they hire from a bus stop?!  :

Various undercover videos show DNC and Billary connected activists claiming they pay homeless and "crazy" people to do things like disrupt RNC and Trump events. Leaked emails claim about "sexless nerds" being paid to post pro-Billary stuff on message boards. Or try to set up supporters to react to a threat and get it on film etc. One likely paid poster on BG even admitted his mental health problems and keeps posting pro-Billary tripe and looking at some of the agitators at various rallies I think the video was correct. There are is anecdotal stories of Billary supporters or counter-protesters all leaving at the same time. Like they are paid for a few hours and now it is time to punch-out.

[Yorkshire pud]

Trump voters are, in effect, signing the same kind of contract just by voting for him. Since he has no respect for the law or the principles underlying the law, he'll see votes as oaths of loyaly and any later criticism by his supporters as betrayal.

Being vindictive, like his political role model Putin, he'll look for a way to abuse his power to punish any offenders. But some people are dumb enough to sign up for anything and so they're likely to have some nasty surprises in store for them.

Its horrifying/hilarious that the very same accusations about 'big brother' thrown at Obama/Clinton/anyone who isn't like Trump, by Trumpy supporters are forgotten when he does the same. And they really don't think that given his own way, he wouldn't be a despotic dictator? He openly wants and requires (and gets, apparently) the unquestioning devotion from his volunteers, who probably haven't/can't read the terms and conditions, because they're clearly not that clever! Anyone labouring under the delusion still he's a man of the people? Well, when he isn't grabbing pussy of course or fondling his daughter/other men's wives and daughters/random women he meets (as long as they meet the Ol Donny 'attractive' test; because lets face it girls, he's gods gift to the female sex eh?) because Donny the dirty old man has that right goddamit.

[albrecht]

Trump voters are, in effect, signing the same kind of contract just by voting for him. Since he has no respect for the law or the principles underlying the law, he'll see votes as oaths of loyaly and any later criticism by his supporters as betrayal.

Being vindictive, like his political role model Putin, he'll look for a way to abuse his power to punish any offenders. But some people are dumb enough to sign up for anything and so they're likely to have some nasty surprises in store for them.

If you knew about the country you would know that these types of "contracts" are notoriously hard to enforce and in some states and cases illegal. Even in business NDAs are often very hard to enforce. It is perception creating reality. Like how many a person, especially a poor or uneducated one, thinks a letter from a lawyer carries some force (these are often used by debt collectors etc trying to collect on a debt that might be not legit or even paid off or to intimidate someone from exercising their rights etc.) I could see how Trump is very careful now due to the unproven allegations and previous business experience that he would want anyone near or working for him to at least think that they can't later allege something, tell about their experiences, sue him, etc. Of course it is unenforceable in most cases.

ps: and I can tell you from experience that voting for Trump doesn't include any "contract"- at least in my State. The ballot has nothing like that on it. (And I read even all the minutiae of the bond proposal.) This assumes, of course, that my vote wasn't 'flipped' or 'mistakenly changed' after I submitted it.

Having said that it is weird but nothing compared to what is coming out daily about the sheer amounts and parties involved in the Clinton machine's corruption and finances and how belittling they are about their own constituents, candidates, and supporters! And it goes both ways, many of her aids and supporters question or joke about Hillary for her boozing, health, and attitude. It is crazy though the amount of money foreigners, big businesses, and billionaires paid to gain access to the Clintons and State Dept. (As ex-con Jack Abramoff a master of DC corruption mentioned in an interview it is rarely about "here is the check, now pass that bill or make that decision" but about "access" and "becoming friends so they look more favorably on your issue in the future." Though with some things I think with the Clintons it is more "cut the check and it is done" type of thing.)
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ but if you are afraid that it is illegal to view those as CNN claimed, falsely, the FBI releases some really good stuff also:
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-01-of-04/view

[theONE]

Its horrifying/hilarious that the very same accusations about 'big brother' thrown at Obama/Clinton/anyone who isn't like Trump, by Trumpy supporters are forgotten when he does the same. And they really don't think that given his own way, he wouldn't be a despotic dictator? He openly wants and requires (and gets, apparently) the unquestioning devotion from his volunteers, who probably haven't/can't read the terms and conditions, because they're clearly not that clever! Anyone labouring under the delusion still he's a man of the people? Well, when he isn't grabbing pussy of course or fondling his daughter/other men's wives and daughters/random women he meets (as long as they meet the Ol Donny 'attractive' test; because lets face it girls, he's gods gift to the female sex eh?) because Donny the dirty old man has that right goddamit.

Its horrifying/hilarious that the very same accusations about 'big brother' thrown at Obama/Clinton/anyone who isn't like Trump, by Trumpy supporters are forgotten when he does the same.
And they really don't think that given his own way, he wouldn't be a despotic dictator?
He openly wants and requires (and gets, apparently) the unquestioning devotion from his volunteers, who probably haven't/can't read the terms
and conditions, because they're clearly not that clever! Anyone labouring under the delusion still he's a man of the people?
Well, when he isn't grabbing pussy of course or fondling his daughter/other men's wives and daughters/random women he meets
(as long as they meet the Ol Donny 'attractive' test; because lets face it girls, he's gods gift to the female sex eh?) because Donny the dirty old man has that right goddamit.

pud,..if you compose your wall of text like I did in my rearrangement it would by much easier to read ..but who am I
to teach you how to use your own language 
I belive it's called creating..paragraphs,pud

[Yorkshire pud]

pud,..if you compose your wall of text like I did in my rearrangement it would by much easier to read ..but who am I
to teach you how to use your own language 
I belive it's called creating..paragraphs,pud

You've been sent down to the mid 600's for taking the time and trouble. At this rate, and allowing for deaths/retirements etc, you'll be back in the top 200 by about 2078,  around June 8th, about 17:35. Ish.

[GravitySucks]

https://youtu.be/NlAUQwfOkfQ

[Value Of Pi]

If you knew about the country you would know that these types of "contracts" are notoriously hard to enforce and in some states and cases illegal. Even in business NDAs are often very hard to enforce. It is perception creating reality. Like how many a person, especially a poor or uneducated one, thinks a letter from a lawyer carries some force (these are often used by debt collectors etc trying to collect on a debt that might be not legit or even paid off or to intimidate someone from exercising their rights etc.) I could see how Trump is very careful now due to the unproven allegations and previous business experience that he would want anyone near or working for him to at least think that they can't later allege something, tell about their experiences, sue him, etc. Of course it is unenforceable in most cases.

ps: and I can tell you from experience that voting for Trump doesn't include any "contract"- at least in my State. The ballot has nothing like that on it. (And I read even all the minutiae of the bond proposal.) This assumes, of course, that my vote wasn't 'flipped' or 'mistakenly changed' after I submitted it.

Having said that it is weird but nothing compared to what is coming out daily about the sheer amounts and parties involved in the Clinton machine's corruption and finances and how belittling they are about their own constituents, candidates, and supporters! And it goes both ways, many of her aids and supporters question or joke about Hillary for her boozing, health, and attitude. It is crazy though the amount of money foreigners, big businesses, and billionaires paid to gain access to the Clintons and State Dept. (As ex-con Jack Abramoff a master of DC corruption mentioned in an interview it is rarely about "here is the check, now pass that bill or make that decision" but about "access" and "becoming friends so they look more favorably on your issue in the future." Though with some things I think with the Clintons it is more "cut the check and it is done" type of thing.)
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ but if you are afraid that it is illegal to view those as CNN claimed, falsely, the FBI releases some really good stuff also:
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-01-of-04/view

My point was that Trump has an autocratic mindset and believes he can and should control the actions of U.S. citizens regardless of what the law says. It's another question about how that would turn out for him if he took power, but fighting a would-be dictator is not what Americans want, even most Trump voters. Some do want that kind of leader, of course.

[GravitySucks]

My point was that Trump has an autocratic mindset and believes he can and should control the actions of U.S. citizens regardless of what the law says. It's another question about how that would turn out for him if he took power, but fighting a would-be dictator is not what Americans want, even most Trump voters. Some do want that kind of leader, of course.

You should write science fiction. You have quite the imagination. Maybe Jackstar could be your technical advisor.

[albrecht]

My point was that Trump has an autocratic mindset and believes he can and should control the actions of U.S. citizens regardless of what the law says. It's another question about how that would turn out for him if he took power, but fighting a would-be dictator is not what Americans want, even most Trump voters. Some do want that kind of leader, of course.

Although I tend to agree with you that Obama, and before him Bushes and Clinton, have aggrandized the Federal government, and especially the Executive office and departments waaay too much I think this claim of Hillary supporters that he upon election will suddenly become a dictator and Hitler. It is not a good argument and previous experience has shown that the Clintons, and Obama, have been more corrupt in using official positions and offices to go after enemies or solicit "donations" in exchange for access or favors. The hyperbole is crazy. His daughter is married to a Jewish guy. He opened up a prominent golf club to Jews etc. And yet "he is Hitler!" There is still Congress, State governments, the military, and a yuuuge, bloated civil service and agencies that can prevent Billary or Trump from going full dictator- if they want to do so. Considering the $'s given from those people, excepting military, go to Billary I could see the DC establishment putting up with a Billary dictatorship as long as she still gives them jobs, accepts donations, and enacts the regulations they want.

[theONE]

You've been sent down to the mid 600's for taking the time and trouble. At this rate, and allowing for deaths/retirements etc, you'll be back in the top 200 by about 2078,  around June 8th, about 17:35. Ish.

haha, you are full of .......................................................... love ,pud , lol

[albrecht]

My point was that Trump has an autocratic mindset and believes he can and should control the actions of U.S. citizens regardless of what the law says. It's another question about how that would turn out for him if he took power, but fighting a would-be dictator is not what Americans want, even most Trump voters. Some do want that kind of leader, of course.

I voted yesterday. Where was that contract for Trump I signed? 
http://www.traviscountyclerk.org/eclerk/content/images/sample_ballots/2016.11.08/2016.11.08_G16_GeneralBallot.pdf

[starrmtn001]

Full Speech: Donald Trump Foreign Policy Speech in Charlotte, North Carolina .  10.26.16.

https://youtu.be/Cq8k_Suw2ME

[Yorkshire pud]

Full Speech: Donald Trump Foreign Policy Speech in Charlotte, North Carolina .  10.26.16.

I wonder how long ago he arrived at the 0 shape with finger and thumb to try and add gravitas to his bollox?  Foreign policy? "They're not American, therefore they're bad, oh wait! Not the ones who work for me and tell me how great I am without the implied threat of losing their job if they don't. Loathsome smelly brown people who aren't pretty enough to grab the pussy of"

[Catsmile]

Dat maff...

[136 or 142]

Full Speech: Donald Trump Foreign Policy Speech in Charlotte, North Carolina .  10.26.16.

"There's a world outside the U.S borders.  I know this because I have some businesses that operate there.  That's about all I know.  Well, I'll just make up the rest as I go along.  That's what I've been doing up to now and my idiot supporters haven't noticed yet.  I really love the poorly educated!"

[albrecht]

Full Speech: Donald Trump Foreign Policy Speech in Charlotte, North Carolina .  10.26.16.

https://youtu.be/Cq8k_Suw2ME

Lots of stamina. The country's opponent could barely manage a small step earlier today without help from handlers. Not that a disability or medical condition or addiction, necessarily, means she is not fit for the Office- the corruption, promises, and past policies show that- but she should be forthright and tell voters about whatever alcohol or medical issues she has since her 'finger will be on the button,' as they say. What if she needed to steady herself from too much booze or the dodgy head and accidentally pushed or grab the button- and it not the misspelled Russia "reset" button she used?  (I know unlike the hyperbolic media that the procedures to launch are not that simple.)
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-hillary-needs-help-going-one-step/

[albrecht]

Dat maff...

Yeah, and a lot of that Saudi spending is via kick-backs deals from British and USA companies and government policy. I would almost agree with it if it really benefited the average American tax-payer but so much is going to defend OTHER people's borders, big corporations, and so many contractors, lawyers, and lobbyists in the DC area. N.Va is filled with offices for folks milking off the "national security" teat. Sure there are some jobs created but at what cost? But if the government really cared about foreign threats or national security wouldn't the first thing a sane entity would do would be secure our borders? Double-check on VISA holders who over-stayed? Vett some Muslim coming in without ID as a 'refugee'? Or act on intelligence known about threats given to us by foreign agencies or even our OWN agencies but don't due to political correctness, or worse? But we don't so....Eisenhower was likely correct.

[136 or 142]

The Trump Thing as Archie Bunker was mentioned earlier:

[Value Of Pi]

You should write science fiction. You have quite the imagination. Maybe Jackstar could be your technical advisor.

Although I tend to agree with you that Obama, and before him Bushes and Clinton, have aggrandized the Federal government, and especially the Executive office and departments waaay too much I think this claim of Hillary supporters that he upon election will suddenly become a dictator and Hitler. It is not a good argument and previous experience has shown that the Clintons, and Obama, have been more corrupt in using official positions and offices to go after enemies or solicit "donations" in exchange for access or favors. The hyperbole is crazy. His daughter is married to a Jewish guy. He opened up a prominent golf club to Jews etc. And yet "he is Hitler!" There is still Congress, State governments, the military, and a yuuuge, bloated civil service and agencies that can prevent Billary or Trump from going full dictator- if they want to do so. Considering the $'s given from those people, excepting military, go to Billary I could see the DC establishment putting up with a Billary dictatorship as long as she still gives them jobs, accepts donations, and enacts the regulations they want.

Again I reiterate  , I did not say that Trump would succeed in becoming a dictator, only that it is in his nature to try to become one, damn the consequences. He looks at Putin and sees a great leader, not a dictator. This is just who Trump is and what Trump voters are voting for, whether they know it or not. We have never had this kind of autocrat get so close to the White House, certainly not in modern times.

Incidentally, corruption is much more severe and widespread in autocratic societies than in imperfect democracies like ours. If you want to fight corruption, you don't let someone itching to demolish democratic institutions (like a free press) occupy the most powerful office in the world.

[21st Century Man]

Trump voters are, in effect, signing the same kind of contract just by voting for him. Since he has no respect for the law or the principles underlying the law, he'll see votes as oaths of loyaly and any later criticism by his supporters as betrayal.

Being vindictive, like his political role model Putin, he'll look for a way to abuse his power to punish any offenders. But some people are dumb enough to sign up for anything and so they're likely to have some nasty surprises in store for them.

So you are going to vote for someone who has even less respect for the law.  :

[21st Century Man]

Its horrifying/hilarious that the very same accusations about 'big brother' thrown at Obama/Clinton/anyone who isn't like Trump, by Trumpy supporters are forgotten when he does the same. And they really don't think that given his own way, he wouldn't be a despotic dictator? He openly wants and requires (and gets, apparently) the unquestioning devotion from his volunteers, who probably haven't/can't read the terms and conditions, because they're clearly not that clever! Anyone labouring under the delusion still he's a man of the people? Well, when he isn't grabbing pussy of course or fondling his daughter/other men's wives and daughters/random women he meets (as long as they meet the Ol Donny 'attractive' test; because lets face it girls, he's gods gift to the female sex eh?) because Donny the dirty old man has that right goddamit.

I do worry about possible overreach of executive power from Trump but I'll give him a chance.  The Democrats including Obama and Clinton have already made it clear they have no problem with extending their powers over constitutional limits.

[136 or 142]

So you are going to vote for someone who has even less respect for the law.  :

What's it like living in your fantasy world?

[21st Century Man]

Dat maff...

Yeah, that's because we act as the military of other nations such as Japan, Germany, South Korea and other countries.  Get back with me when we no longer have that responsibility.

[136 or 142]

Yeah, that's because we act as the military of other nations such as Japan, Germany, South Korea and other countries.  Get back with me when we no longer have that responsibility.

You are aware this graph starts in 1948 shortly after the start of the Cold War and right before the Soviet Union successfully tested its first nuclear bomb?

[Value Of Pi]

I do worry about possible overreach of executive power from Trump but I'll give him a chance.  The Democrats including Obama and Clinton have already made it clear they have no problem with extending their powers over constitutional limits.

The question for voters who, like you, think it's worth giving Trump a chance is, what are the risks? I strongly recommend reading this article, which outlines how hard it could be for the checks and balances in the system to stop a President Trump before he did major damage. It's not very comforting, but it seems like a very realistic assessment.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-american-democracy-could-break-down-214383

[GravitySucks]

The question for voters who, like you, think it's worth giving Trump a chance is, what are the risks? I strongly recommend reading this article, which outlines how hard it could be for the checks and balances in the system to stop a President Trump before he did major damage. It's not very comforting, but it seems like a very realistic assessment.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-american-democracy-could-break-down-214383

And you voiced similar concerns when a dope-smoking, cocaine-using, community organizer took office?

[21st Century Man]

You are aware this graph starts in 1948 shortly after the start of the Cold War and right before the Soviet Union successfully tested its first nuclear bomb?

Yes, I can read.  I know what you're saying but as you said it was the beginning of the Cold war.  I would look more at the % of GDP than the actual dollar amount due to inflation.