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Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 28, 2016, 04:16:17 AM
I'll sometimes watch a show on MSNBC called Morning Joe. I only watch when I feel like agitating myself because it truly is one of the most obvious Clinton propaganda shows out there and Joe has a face that I think people just inherently want to punch. What I didn't know is that the blathering apologist sitting beside him is none of than Mika Brzezinski, Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter. For those of you that don't know who he is he's the guy who initially dreamed up this policy to use Muslim fundamentalists as a weapon against Russia (and maybe to steer domestic policy here at home but we won't tell them about that  ;)) back in the Carter administration. The man is truly a demented maniac and here sits his daughter trying to steer the thinking of American women. It really couldn't be more Orwellian.  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJys9qxcVt4

The msm is full of people like that. Anderson Cooper is a Vanderbilt. Many are family of people in the current Obama administration. 


I love your avatar, Schlyder! :D ;)

mikuthing01

Trump never made fun of a disabled reporter: it was all a lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lAe4FwyQL0

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 27, 2016, 10:36:46 PM

Trump looked at my breasts.  Story at twelve.

These claims are getting more and more ridiculous.
Well, she actually said that he openly compared them to his wife's boobs - DURING A BUSINESS MEETING.  She is already rich and famous, what would she have to gain by making this up?

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 28, 2016, 07:25:29 AM
Well, she actually said that he openly compared them to his wife's boobs - DURING A BUSINESS MEETING.  She is already rich and famous, what would she have to gain by making this up?

Who the fuck cares?  This is insignificant stuff.  Rape, assault, molestation ok... but this?  Give me a break.

onan

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 28, 2016, 07:35:05 AM
Who the fuck cares?  This is insignificant stuff.  Rape, assault, molestation ok... but this?  Give me a break.

Can I have a picture of your wife's breasts? It's insignificant, right?

Quote from: onan on October 28, 2016, 07:37:20 AM
Can I have a picture of your wife's breasts? It's insignificant, right?

It is minor stuff, onan.  Does it speak well of his character?  Of course not.  The fact that it makes headlines is ridiculous though.  None of this is news to people who have followed Trump over his life.  He's the textbook definition of playboy millionaire.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 28, 2016, 07:43:38 AM
It is minor stuff, onan.  Does it speak well of his character?  Of course not.  The fact that it makes headlines is ridiculous though.  None of this is news to people who have followed Trump over his life.  He's the textbook definition of playboy millionaire.

Minor stuff? Presumably if Hillary Clinton made comments about men's junk and it was made public, you'd not mention it because its minor? Got it

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 28, 2016, 07:49:59 AM
Minor stuff? Presumably if Hillary Clinton made comments about men's junk and it was made public, you'd not mention it because its minor? Got it

Nah.  Hillary saying stuff like that would be good for a joke but I wouldn't prosecute her over it.

=Schlyder=

LOL Trump laid a bitchslap to George Snuffleupagus when he asked Trump if he had any regrets...  Trumps replied "Sure I have some regrets... just as you regret donating to the Clinton Foundation."  LOL

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 28, 2016, 07:35:05 AM
Who the fuck cares?  This is insignificant stuff.  Rape, assault, molestation ok... but this?  Give me a break.
If this were the first incident to become public, I would wholeheartedly agree with you.  Add them all up, throw in the Billy Bush tape, and a pretty clear picture emerges.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 28, 2016, 07:52:54 AM
Nah.  Hillary saying stuff like that would be good for a joke but I wouldn't prosecute her over it.

And you wouldn't have any issues if Trump (or any other bloke for that matter), made unwanted sexually verbal or physical advances to your spouse or daughter? Laugh it off as minor stuff?

I just find it odd that people are having a hissy fit about Trump's character when the poor character of the Clintons has already been established for years.  They in fact like to cover up their character flaws while Trump just lets it all hang out.  The disingenuousness of the Clintons is disgusting.

All things being even,  character should not be the issue as both candidates have poor characters.  Unfortunately we have to choose one of them as President so we have to do the best we can.  I'm voting based on policy issues not character.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 28, 2016, 08:04:04 AM
And you wouldn't have any issues if Trump (or any other bloke for that matter), made unwanted sexually verbal or physical advances to your spouse or daughter? Laugh it off as minor stuff?

I'd tell him to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.  I sure as hell would not be going to the papers about it.  Isn't it funny how this stuff comes up now rather than 8 months ago before the primaries started? 

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on October 28, 2016, 08:02:57 AM
If this were the first incident to become public, I would wholeheartedly agree with you.  Add them all up, throw in the Billy Bush tape, and a pretty clear picture emerges.

Do I think Trump is a pig?  Yes, I do but I also think the Clintons inhabit the same pen.

onan

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 28, 2016, 08:06:24 AM
I just find it odd that people are having a hissy fit about Trump's character when the poor character of the Clintons has already been established for years.  They in fact like to cover up their character flaws while Trump just lets it all hang out.  The disingenuousness of the Clintons is disgusting.

All things being even,  character should not be the issue as both candidates have poor characters.  Unfortunately we have to choose one of them as President so we have to do the best we can.  I'm voting based on policy issues not character.

Ok, I get that. But let's not forget that Bill was excoriated for his behaviors, even though in many situations there was a consensual aspect. Let's not also forget that Ken Starr spent millions and found little. Let's not forget that Ken Starr interviewed Juanita Broaddrick and chose to not have her as part of his prosecution. Let's also not forget, that even if you don't believe there was a right wing conspiracy against the Clintons many do believe that. Let's not forget that there is a cottage industry that continues to spew information that has been proven false.

As to Trump, it may seem frivolous to many but that doesn't mean it is frivolous. I won't pretend to know what it takes to be president. However, to many, his lack of respect for women is quite troubling.

SredniVashtar

This goes into all the flaws that Hillary brings to the table and attempts to show why she is still a better bet than Trump. I know it won't convince any of you but I thought it was worth posting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACDqFL8mW3s

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 28, 2016, 08:08:05 AM
I'd tell him to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.  I sure as hell would not be going to the papers about it.  Isn't it funny how this stuff comes up now rather than 8 months ago before the primaries started?

I have mixed feelings about going to the papers, but what are they supposed to do?  Behave like good little girls and say nothing because when all said and done, its their fault for being attractive to him? Funny tbat. Because certain men of certain religions use the excuse that if women 'didn't dress like whores' (in other words they're not covered head to toe), men wouldn't give into their natural rightful lusts and rape/assault them.

As for telling him where to stick it? Without his bodygaurds he'd be picking up his pearly white teeth with his tiny fingers if he did it to female relatives of mine.

albrecht

There are other candidates running but effectively there are only two choices at this point. Both of which have questionable backgrounds and a history of bad behavior. One though involved using our government for personal gain and used an official position to curry favor with people and a private Foundation as a way to collect funds in exchange for access (I won't claim it was straight 'cut a check and whatever policy you want happens' but more about access and facetime, like lobbying is.) One also has a history of even driving associates to suicide, and near, with her drama and vindictiveness. One is thought by people even close to her as having a drinking problem. One has weird medical problems and even keels over doing simple things like stepping off a curb or needs assistance to tackle those tough problems like a raised podium or staircase- something small children can usually accomplish without handlers. One colluded with her National political party, contrary to their own rules, to deny another candidate a shot at the nomination. One has been in office or involved with politics for decades and what successes? Besides various scandals and new wars and regional destabilization, what has she accomplished? The misspelled Russia "reset" button really worked great! The TPP she championed and fought for that she, now, says is bad and doesn't support? The big banks she spoke too, and accepted tons of money from, that she won't the "little people" what she said, now, says are bad? Now, desperately, she is even blaming the Russian government, without real proof, and ramping up rhetoric with them to defend  herself against emails that she and her staff wrote to people and each other that came out. Risking more animosity or even conflict for her own gain. That is crazy.
And she forgets that many of the emails were not a result of hackers but released per DOJ policy and due to FOIA lawsuits because she had them on her illegal, private server.
https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton
https://www.wikileaks.com/dnc-emails/
https://www.wikileaks.com/clinton-emails/
https://www.wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/


SredniVashtar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 28, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
I have mixed feelings about going to the papers...

Can we expect to find your heart-shaped face splashed over the Sunday tabloids? Was it a kiss 'n' tell sting you were part of? Just remember to save that dress you wore for evidential purposes. You were determined to bring Trump down one way or the other but you had to fight dirty, didn't ya?

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: albrecht on October 28, 2016, 08:38:50 AM
Now, desperately, she is even blaming the Russian government, without real proof, and ramping up rhetoric with them to defend  herself against emails that she and her staff wrote to people and each other that came out. Risking more animosity or even conflict for her own gain. That is crazy.

That's the real elephant in the room that the media wants to ignore, but it seems social media is not. Provoking Russia and risking conflict just to gain political points isn't just crazy, it could cause enough of the female vote to not turn out and cost her the election. Most of her voters are sensitive to the climate change issue. Well, nothing changes a planet's climate more drastically than a nuclear war.

Hillary could be the most hawkish presidential candidate in a century. That doesn't play well to her base. In fact, I don't think it plays well to anyone since it just looks batshit crazy to any reasonable person.

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 28, 2016, 07:35:05 AM
Who the fuck cares?  This is insignificant stuff.  Rape, assault, molestation ok... but this?  Give me a break.

All of which The Trump Thing is guilty of.

136 or 142

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 28, 2016, 04:16:17 AM
I'll sometimes watch a show on MSNBC called Morning Joe. I only watch when I feel like agitating myself because it truly is one of the most obvious Clinton propaganda shows out there and Joe has a face that I think people just inherently want to punch. What I didn't know is that the blathering apologist sitting beside him is none of than Mika Brzezinski, Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter. For those of you that don't know who he is he's the guy who initially dreamed up this policy to use Muslim fundamentalists as a weapon against Russia (and maybe to steer domestic policy here at home but we won't tell them about that  ;)) back in the Carter administration. The man is truly a demented maniac and here sits his daughter trying to steer the thinking of American women. It really couldn't be more Orwellian. 

Morning Joe Scarborough was a Republican member of the U.S House from the Florida 1st district.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 28, 2016, 09:13:21 AM
Hillary could be the most hawkish presidential candidate in a century.

Do people seriously not see Trump as a person who would go to war? He's driven by ego and if a bomb goes off somewhere over there he's not going to sit back and talk about the budget deficit. He'd be at least as bellicose as Hillary, if not more so. I'm amazed that people don't see that.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 28, 2016, 09:10:44 AM
Can we expect to find your heart-shaped face splashed over the Sunday tabloids? Was it a kiss 'n' tell sting you were part of? Just remember to save that dress you wore for evidential purposes. You were determined to bring Trump down one way or the other but you had to fight dirty, didn't ya?

I was tempted to use the services of the fake sheik, but I understand he's otherwise indisposed at Brenda's pleasure..

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 28, 2016, 09:22:10 AM
Do people seriously not see Trump as a person who would go to war? He's driven by ego and if a bomb goes off somewhere over there he's not going to sit back and talk about the budget deficit. He'd be at least as bellicose as Hillary, if not more so. I'm amazed that people don't see that.

Because: scales and eyes.

136 or 142

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on October 28, 2016, 09:13:21 AM
That's the real elephant in the room that the media wants to ignore, but it seems social media is not. Provoking Russia and risking conflict just to gain political points isn't just crazy, it could cause enough of the female vote to not turn out and cost her the election. Most of her voters are sensitive to the climate change issue. Well, nothing changes a planet's climate more drastically than a nuclear war.

Hillary could be the most hawkish presidential candidate in a century. That doesn't play well to her base. In fact, I don't think it plays well to anyone since it just looks batshit crazy to any reasonable person.

Most hawkish Presidential candidate in a century?  You know your history as badly as you know everything else Dunning Kruger appeaser.

More hawkish since 1948 and start of the Cold War (only counting Democratic and Republican Presidential candidates):
1.Harry Truman
2.Dwight Eisenhower
3.Richard Nixon
4.John Kennedy
5.Barry Goldwater
6.Lyndon Johnnson
7.Jimmy Carter
8.Ronald Reagan
9.Walter Mondale

I don't know enough about Thomas Dewey in 1948 or Adlai Stevenson in 1952 or 1956 to have an opinion on their foreign policy positions.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 28, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
I have mixed feelings about going to the papers, but what are they supposed to do?  Behave like good little girls and say nothing because when all said and done, its their fault for being attractive to him? Funny tbat. Because certain men of certain religions use the excuse that if women 'didn't dress like whores' (in other words they're not covered head to toe), men wouldn't give into their natural rightful lusts and rape/assault them.

As for telling him where to stick it? Without his bodygaurds he'd be picking up his pearly white teeth with his tiny fingers if he did it to female relatives of mine.

I was being mild in my response.  Yeah with no bodyguards around, I'd let him have it.

GravitySucks

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 28, 2016, 09:28:22 AM
Most hawkish Presidential candidate in a century?  You know your history as badly as you know everything else Dunning Kruger.

More hawkish since 1948 and start of the Cold War:
1.Harry Truman
2.Dwight Eisenhower
3.Richard Nixon
4.John Kennedy
5.Barry Goldwater
6.Jimmy Carter
7.Ronald Reagan
8.Walter Mondale

You don't even know which if those were actual presidents.

You forgot the one that bombed an aspirin factory and the one that ordered drone strikes on US citizens to carry out an execution without any due process.

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