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Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Jackstar

I am a native American--I was born here.

You wouldn't have heard of my tribe. We're very twinkly.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 01:50:42 PM
Seriously, cut off your own head. It's useless now and well past it's expiry date.  ;)

Love carbon taxes much?

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
I was torn.


What the fuck could you have possibly found compelling about Albert Gore? That guy makes vanilla look like LSD-25.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 16, 2017, 02:00:56 PM

What the fuck could you have possibly found compelling about Albert Gore? That guy makes vanilla look like LSD-25.

I honestly didn't but compared to the alternatives... :-\

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: #Fake News on February 16, 2017, 02:00:54 PM
Love carbon taxes much?

Oh sure! Let's tax the gas we all exhale. I think I saw that movie. Total Recall, right?  :D

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 02:07:05 PM
I honestly didn't but compared to the alternatives... :-\



This doesn't even remotely answer the question put to you. Nurse!!

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 02:09:04 PM
Oh sure! Let's tax the gas we all exhale. I think I saw that movie. Total Recall, right?  :D

Wouldn't have been science fiction with Gore in the Presidency and a Democratic Congress.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 16, 2017, 02:11:03 PM


This doesn't even remotely answer the question put to you. Nurse!!

That election became more about preventing who I didn't want to be president than who I did, not that any of the candidates that year were particularly strong in all areas of concern.  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: #Fake News on February 16, 2017, 02:14:19 PM
Wouldn't have been science fiction with Gore in the Presidency and a Democratic Congress.

Hindsight's 20/20  ;)

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 02:15:56 PM
That election became more about preventing who I didn't want to be president than who I did, not that any of the candidates that year were particularly strong in all areas of concern.  ;)


You really don't understand how voting works.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 16, 2017, 02:17:01 PM

You really don't understand how voting works.

Apparently, no one did that year except the people who rigged it.  ;)

aldousburbank

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 16, 2017, 11:24:06 AM
It's not about xenophobia or racism.  It's about preserving the physical integrity of our country and controlling who comes and who stays.   Nothing more than that.  Trump was the alternative to open borders and a continued decline of America into a characterless socialist chess pool.  Look at what Obama is still trying to do to fundamentally change America into a knockoff of the Netherlands or France with their open frontiers and hostile immigrants.

My folks were first in their lineage to be born north of the border. When I was a kid every few months they'd pack us kids in the car with a lot of clothes, sundry housewares, and non-perishable food and we'd head down to old Agua Prieta to deliver the love to a couple of particularly economically challenged families. People literally living dirt floor, cardboard walls style. Their upscale neighbors lived comparatively opulent lifestyles with their mud daub homes with tin ceilings and their little frozen paleta cart gig or whatevers. Each time we'd cross the international line my dad would tell me and my sisters- Allright kids, you all have to really watch your asses now. This place is full of nothing but Mexicans.

I wasn't the smartest kid in the '66 Impala so I didn't really catch on to what he was saying and why he said it every time. But I realized he said it for a reason. He was not racist or contemptuous of those whom he considered his own people. He wasn't deragatory of their lack of success or illiteracy. He had taught himself how to read and was clearly an open hearted dude who consistently went out of his way to befriend and spend time with his thoroughly disadvantaged brothers and sisters. But while raising my own family and taking them to Mexico, I really, really got the lesson which his little funny absurdity was payloading.

These are hungry people staring at us through a chain link fence with razor wire. They want to keep their kids warm and dry and healthy just like us del norte. The best of them will work hard to make their own community great. Others, like my Nanas and Tatas will do good by becoming the person they need to be to legally migrate and become productive U.S. Citizens. Many others will surely try to sneak in if we let them so you absolutely need to lock and monitor that gate. You can't pop that poverty balloon all at once because it will fuck us all- and has been. Just because you don't like to see people suffer doesn't mean you'll be helping anything by blowing up the grain silos for everybody to grapple for a few grains of piñata candy. I mean, to be a good citizen, here anyway, you have to be the type of person who follows rules, pays the man his due, buys insurance, and all kinds of tricks like that there which fools sneaking into the circus tent are just not likely to be prone, or expected to do.

Over the years my dad helped sponsor several legal immigrants into their new lives north of the border, some of whom he assisted in entering vocational or apprenticeship programs. He set a great example of how to teach people to fish instead of breaking into the grocery store.



Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 01:49:00 PM
Hey, liberal hypocrites! Check out a real liberal (I mean the smart black kid, not Jimmy but he's pretty real too ;))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFEm2pter5E

If you could only get your heads around that reality... but no. You'd rather fritter away your political power with trifling identity issues like transgender bathrooms that appeal to less than 10% of the population just so you can look like compassionate good guys on TV. Don't you think it's time to get a little more real now?  :D

The kid knows what he's talking about.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: aldousburbank on February 16, 2017, 02:26:22 PM
My folks were first in their lineage to be born north of the border. When I was a kid every few months they'd pack us kids in the car with a lot of clothes, sundry housewares, and non-perishable food and we'd head down to old Agua Prieta to deliver the love to a couple of particularly economically challenged families. People literally living dirt floor, cardboard walls style. Their upscale neighbors lived comparatively opulent lifestyles with their mud daub homes with tin ceilings and their little frozen paleta cart gig or whatevers. Each time we'd cross the international line my dad would tell me and my sisters- Allright kids, you all have to really watch your asses now. This place is full of nothing but Mexicans.

I wasn't the smartest kid in the '66 Impala so I didn't really catch on to what he was saying and why he said it every time. But I realized he said it for a reason. He was not racist or contemptuous of those whom he considered his own people. He wasn't deragatory of their lack of success or illiteracy. He had taught himself how to read and was clearly an open hearted dude who consistently went out of his way to befriend and spend time with his thoroughly disadvantaged brothers and sisters. But while raising my own family and taking them to Mexico, I really, really got the lesson which his little funny absurdity was payloading.

These are hungry people staring at us through a chain link fence with razor wire. They want to keep their kids warm and dry and healthy just like us del norte. The best of them will work hard to make their own community great. Others, like my Nanas and Tatas will do good by becoming the person they need to be to legally migrate and become productive U.S. Citizens. Many others will surely try to sneak in if we let them so you absolutely need to lock and monitor that gate. You can't pop that poverty balloon all at once because it will fuck us all- and has been. Just because you don't like to see people suffer doesn't mean you'll be helping anything by blowing up the grain silos for everybody to grapple for a few grains of piñata candy. I mean, to be a good citizen, here anyway, you have to be the type of person who follows rules, pays the man his due, buys insurance, and all kinds of tricks like that there which fools sneaking into the circus tent are just not likely to be prone, or expected to do.

Over the years my dad helped sponsor several legal immigrants into their new lives north of the border, some of whom he assisted in entering vocational or apprenticeship programs. He set a great example of how to teach people to fish instead of breaking into the grocery store.

You have a story worth sharing and the writing chops to lay it down.  Write a book dude.  Do it now!


Quote from: aldousburbank on February 16, 2017, 02:26:22 PM
My folks were first in their lineage to be born north of the border. When I was a kid every few months they'd pack us kids in the car with a lot of clothes, sundry housewares, and non-perishable food and we'd head down to old Agua Prieta to deliver the love to a couple of particularly economically challenged families. People literally living dirt floor, cardboard walls style. Their upscale neighbors lived comparatively opulent lifestyles with their mud daub homes with tin ceilings and their little frozen paleta cart gig or whatevers. Each time we'd cross the international line my dad would tell me and my sisters- Allright kids, you all have to really watch your asses now. This place is full of nothing but Mexicans.

I wasn't the smartest kid in the '66 Impala so I didn't really catch on to what he was saying and why he said it every time. But I realized he said it for a reason. He was not racist or contemptuous of those whom he considered his own people. He wasn't deragatory of their lack of success or illiteracy. He had taught himself how to read and was clearly an open hearted dude who consistently went out of his way to befriend and spend time with his thoroughly disadvantaged brothers and sisters. But while raising my own family and taking them to Mexico, I really, really got the lesson which his little funny absurdity was payloading.

These are hungry people staring at us through a chain link fence with razor wire. They want to keep their kids warm and dry and healthy just like us del norte. The best of them will work hard to make their own community great. Others, like my Nanas and Tatas will do good by becoming the person they need to be to legally migrate and become productive U.S. Citizens. Many others will surely try to sneak in if we let them so you absolutely need to lock and monitor that gate. You can't pop that poverty balloon all at once because it will fuck us all- and has been. Just because you don't like to see people suffer doesn't mean you'll be helping anything by blowing up the grain silos for everybody to grapple for a few grains of piñata candy. I mean, to be a good citizen, here anyway, you have to be the type of person who follows rules, pays the man his due, buys insurance, and all kinds of tricks like that there which fools sneaking into the circus tent are just not likely to be prone, or expected to do.

Over the years my dad helped sponsor several legal immigrants into their new lives north of the border, some of whom he assisted in entering vocational or apprenticeship programs. He set a great example of how to teach people to fish instead of breaking into the grocery store.

You came from a wonderful family, aldous, and you are continuing the tradition.  I concur with kid.  Write a book.  How a Chicano hippie came to love and vote for Donald Trump.  You'll sell millions.

I've had my fun, pud.  You can have your avatar back.  You were a good sport through it all.

Meister_000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 16, 2017, 01:48:39 PM
You have explained nothing.  And if you tried to hold my hand I would rip off your fucking arm and beat you severely about the neck and ears with the bloody end.  There is no reason whatsoever for Sessions to recuse himself.  You haven't shown anybody anything.  All you have done is regurgitate leftist wet dreams about what you imagine is Sessions' involvement.  Keep posting though, it's like watching a train wreck in real time.

What I have done is to contribute massively to your re-education program. The most recent follow-up lesson you missed, napping again in class, I must now paste-in again here below. This is where we continue, one step at a time, to introduce new ideas for your rotting brain to absorb. Here is where we "show you the light" regarding Federal DOJ Regulations (the ones you claimed don't exist, and are merely "protocol niceties" which carry no weight authority or consequences). This is nessessary background material so that when we move on to particulars, cases and persons, we won't need to stop again for the slow learner in the room, and he might be better equiped to (alas) make the nessessary "connections" amoung new data-points presented to him.

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 16, 2017, 11:42:33 AM
Department of Justice Regulations *require* Recusal by a United States Attorney whenever “a personal interest or professional relationship with any of the parties [creates] an appearance of a conflict of interest or a loss of impartiality.

Regs @ DOJ:
U.S. Attorneys' Manual
https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-3-2000-united-states-attorneys-ausas-special-assistants-and-agac#3-2.170

3-2.170 - Recusals

When United States Attorneys, or their offices, become aware of an issue that could require a recusal in a criminal or civil matter or case as a result of a personal interest or professional relationship with parties involved in the matter, they must contact General Counsel's Office (GCO), EOUSA. The requirement of recusal does not arise in every instance, but only where a conflict of interest exists or there is an appearance of a conflict of interest or loss of impartiality.

A United States Attorney who becomes aware of circumstances that might necessitate his or her recusal or that of the entire office, should promptly notify GCO, EOUSA, at (202) 252-1600 to discuss whether a recusal is required. If recusal is appropriate, the USAO will submit a written recusal request memorandum to GCO. GCO will then coordinate the recusal action, obtain necessary approvals for the recusal, and assist the office in arranging for a transfer of responsibility to another office, including any designations of attorneys as a Special Attorney or Special Assistant to the Attorney General (see USAM 3-2.300) pursuant to 28 U.S.C. Sec. 515. See USAP 3-2.170.001 (M).

[updated August 2016] [cited in USAM 3-1.200; 3-2.220]

Luka Megurine

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 01:49:00 PM
Hey, liberal hypocrites! Check out a real liberal (I mean the smart black kid, not Jimmy but he's pretty real too ;))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFEm2pter5E

If you could only get your heads around that reality... but no. You'd rather fritter away your political power with trifling identity issues like transgender bathrooms that appeal to less than 10% of the population just so you can look like compassionate good guys on TV. Don't you think it's time to get a little more real now?  :D

Chicago should have never torn down the black ghetto's it just displaced the violent niggers to surrounding areas and made everywhere dangerous.

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 16, 2017, 03:57:23 PM
What I have done is to contribute massively to your re-education program. The most recent follow-up lesson you missed, napping again in class, I must now paste-in again here below. This is where we continue, one step at a time, to introduce new ideas for your rotting brain to absorb. Here is where we "show you the light" regarding Federal DOJ Regulations (the ones you claimed don't exist, and are merely "protocol niceties" which carry no weight authority or consequences. This is nessessary background material so that when we move on to particulars, cases and persons, we won't need to stop again for the slow learner in the room, and he might be better equiped to (alas) make the nessessary "connections" amoung new data-points presented to him.

Your whole supposition is arguable.  Guess what. He is not going to recuse himself so go cry in your spilt milk.  Besides Session has never been Russia's friend anyway. Much ado about nothing.  But that is nothing new coming from you.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: lukathing03🗾🇯🇵🗻🌸 on February 16, 2017, 04:00:32 PM
Chicago should have never torn down the black ghetto's it just displaced the violent niggers to surrounding areas and made everywhere dangerous.

Not according to the people who live there, miku. They say it's still heavily ghettoized.  ;)

Luka Megurine

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2017, 04:18:32 PM
Not according to the people who live there, miku. They say it's still heavily ghettoized.  ;)

White people have ghetto's too they are called trailer parks but you never see them shooting each other in drive by shootings

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: lukathing03🗾🇯🇵🗻🌸 on February 16, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
White people have ghetto's too they are called trailer parks but you never see them shooting each other in drive by shootings

Yeah, mostly they use guns for hunting and suicide. I get your point and agree with you to a degree. I have to draw the line on an absolute eugenics explanation though. Perhaps science will reveal some genetic difference that accounts behavioral differences like that but to deny the nurture aspect of one's environment is equally absurd.  ;)

Kidnostad3

Since you are just reposting the same dumb shit that you have for the last several days, I will again post what the NYT said to answer your question.  Look up guidelines and then look up interpretation. 
The key here is that Sessions has no conflict of interest, he has only been accused by democrats with an ax to grind.  Sessions has sworn to carry out his duties in a fair and impartial manner.  He is neither morally or legally bound to recuse himself.  Did Lynch recuse herself when it came to the Clinton investigation.  She did not. 

Volume of words and repetition will not help your case.  What might help you in grasping reality would be your taking you head out of your ass.  You are obviously suffering from oxygen narcosis on top of  being just plain stupid. 

If and when any of the claims about Sessions or Trump prove true, I will be the first to call for a bipartisan commission or special prosecutor.

"Justice Department guidelines prevent prosecutors from participating in a case in which they have “a personal or political relationship” with a person or group that would be directly affected by the outcome. But there has been wide disagreement over the years about how that should be interpreted, and a congressional measure that set off the use of an outside counsel in some situations was allowed to lapse in 1999.

Democrats acknowledged, however, that they had no way to force Mr. Sessions to remove himself from the case, leaving them to rely instead on political and public pressure."



albrecht

Quote from: aldousburbank on February 16, 2017, 02:26:22 PM
My folks were first in their lineage to be born north of the border. When I was a kid every few months they'd pack us kids in the car with a lot of clothes, sundry housewares, and non-perishable food and we'd head down to old Agua Prieta to deliver the love to a couple of particularly economically challenged families. People literally living dirt floor, cardboard walls style. Their upscale neighbors lived comparatively opulent lifestyles with their mud daub homes with tin ceilings and their little frozen paleta cart gig or whatevers. Each time we'd cross the international line my dad would tell me and my sisters- Allright kids, you all have to really watch your asses now. This place is full of nothing but Mexicans.

I wasn't the smartest kid in the '66 Impala so I didn't really catch on to what he was saying and why he said it every time. But I realized he said it for a reason. He was not racist or contemptuous of those whom he considered his own people. He wasn't deragatory of their lack of success or illiteracy. He had taught himself how to read and was clearly an open hearted dude who consistently went out of his way to befriend and spend time with his thoroughly disadvantaged brothers and sisters. But while raising my own family and taking them to Mexico, I really, really got the lesson which his little funny absurdity was payloading.

These are hungry people staring at us through a chain link fence with razor wire. They want to keep their kids warm and dry and healthy just like us del norte. The best of them will work hard to make their own community great. Others, like my Nanas and Tatas will do good by becoming the person they need to be to legally migrate and become productive U.S. Citizens. Many others will surely try to sneak in if we let them so you absolutely need to lock and monitor that gate. You can't pop that poverty balloon all at once because it will fuck us all- and has been. Just because you don't like to see people suffer doesn't mean you'll be helping anything by blowing up the grain silos for everybody to grapple for a few grains of piñata candy. I mean, to be a good citizen, here anyway, you have to be the type of person who follows rules, pays the man his due, buys insurance, and all kinds of tricks like that there which fools sneaking into the circus tent are just not likely to be prone, or expected to do.

Over the years my dad helped sponsor several legal immigrants into their new lives north of the border, some of whom he assisted in entering vocational or apprenticeship programs. He set a great example of how to teach people to fish instead of breaking into the grocery store.
Interesting perspective. As a gringo I guess I can't comment but will anyway several of the "Mexicans" I know here don't want illegal immigration and some are from when Texas was a part of Mexico and some prominent families who fought in our revolution were "Mexican.") I also grew up though with parents saying "Joe" family background was Spanish or even Italian, them saying it- not us gringos. Though in some cases it is true, their is a sort of caste system in Mexico etc based on amount of 'native' blood versus European.

Nobody, well most people I think/hope, don't like to see anyone starve or become victims of crime or corruption. There is a difference between an illegal who simply is coming over to work or find a better life in desperation and one who is coming over to exploit, commit crime, commit terrorism, or etc. This latest round-up, that is causing protests here, is arresting illegals with OTHER charges in their history for the most part. How can someone defend an illegal who is also a drunk driver, a rapist, a child abuser, etc? Another fundamental question: if you have no border, no shared history, no shared language, no shared values, no shared religion, no rule of law, or nothing in common can it even be considered a country, much less a nation?

One thing I never hear anyone address is:
(I will use Mexco as example but this also applies to other countries, to an extent.)
1) assume, for sake of argument, everyone what migrates here from where ever is good, honest, hard-working, God-fearing, best people on earth. How will that flight effect their home countries? Will Mexico solve its cartel or corruption problems if honest people and capital flee (many rich Mexicans buying up houses here due to violence, threats of kidnapping, etc there.)
2) in the past (here at least) more trabajeros came up to work. And work hard. And would return to Mexico for holidays and remit a lot of their money to their families back home. Even good things like putting in plumbing to villages and "colonias" (makeshift towns on both sides of the border.) Now they don't return home for holidays (threats of violence, concerns about getting caught, etc) but also because the migration has changed with more families and women and children coming. Who, for the most part, are not a benefit, at least initially, (in terms of pure economic utility) to society here but a drain (public education, EBT, ER as medical program, etc) and that means the workers not sending money back because family here.) How does this effect Mexico if remittances slow down or cease?


Lt.Uhura

Quote from: lukathing03🗾🇯🇵🗻🌸 on February 16, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
White people have ghetto's too they are called trailer parks but you never see them shooting each other in drive by shootings

That's right. White people are clearly more civilized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gie1ULuDb7E

WOTR

Quote from: albrecht on February 16, 2017, 09:16:35 AM
I saw on the news that some students at a primarily Mexican HS near there walked out yesterday to join in (hopefully they will be punished or expelled)
Teach them well, and teach them early to always follow authority and who their masters are.  I particularly like the idea of expelling them.  I hope those bastards don't get an education, end up on welfare, and cost you millions.  It would serve you them right.


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