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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

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Jackstar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 14, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
IF HE TRIED


It's clear he was the first community organizer ordered to not improvise who actually didn't.

Shit, give him a medal too... oh, wait, Hillary deleted them all.

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 14, 2017, 08:05:55 PM
Well, since Hilary and her little terrorist toadie mole Huma aren't in the White House piling up billions more in bribes to the ''Clinton Foundation'', I'd say things are going quite well thank you.

And no matter what happens over the next four years, that's going to be the case.

Next question

Admit it. You're just saying that because she wouldn't be your Valentine.

Meister_000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 14, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
So you have a transcript of what was said.  If you do, you are in possession of classified material that was illegally divulged and when they find out who the traitorous bastard is who leaked it he will do federal time.  (I would actually prefer that he be shot.). Expect to be questioned as a material witness and possible coconspititor. 
Patriot(s) not traitor. You also forget that Flynn used unsecured/unencrypted line intercepted by *the FBI* (at least) -- pro that he is.

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 14, 2017, 08:44:37 PM
Patriot(s) not traitor. You also forget that Flynn used unsecured/unencrypted line intercepted by *the FBI* (at least) -- pro that he is.

Traitors.

albrecht

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 14, 2017, 08:44:37 PM
Patriot(s) not traitor. You also forget that Flynn used unsecured/unencrypted line intercepted by *the FBI* (at least) -- pro that he is.
As opposed to Hillary who operated an illegal, unsecured server and conducted official business on it and via private email accounts, even at very levels of classification, over it- and via her maid at her DC estate who would forward things to a yahoo account to Huma who, in turn, used the same unsecured device(s) as her husband when sexting under-age girls?  My pet theory was the insecure nature of the private, illegal server, devices, and email accounts was done  precisely for this purpose, not "I don't know IT," "I had a bump on my head," or "everybody does it": so that various donors to the Foundation(s) and political campaigns could gain access to DOS, and other, information but with the "plausible deniability"- that, so if discovered, it was "an IT problem" not Hillary or others "giving or allowing" access to the information to the various foreign governments, businesses, and royals who paid-for-play to their Foundation(s.)  Even if my pet theory is incorrect, and Hillary etc was simply incompetent or clueless, she still committed worse crimes than Flynn.

As an aside, I have another different theory? Has anyone considered the sacrifice of a pawn in a larger game? I see nobody, except me here earlier, consider that? On both "sides" it is either: the breaching of the dam, or, Trump caving into to pressure from the media, Deep State, Obama adherents, still in office or making poor decisions. Flynn is gone, but several others that were "controversial" have been appointed, and the media/Democrats, on the run with this story while other things are happening...maybe?

ps: hope sanctions lifted! And situation stabilized in Ukraine. Give Russia Crimea back. The people voted, it was historically Russian, even the 'minorities' (Cossacks) supported it. The vaunted UN tells us to respect elections and "people can decide, etc." Would love to restart the energy deals with Russia (great for shareholders and all) and end the new Cold War- better for Europe also- less stress in the Arctic, cheaper gas for them in cold times, better returns for shareholders and consumers of gas/petrol, less worry of escalation for war, and a united front against Islam- and, maybe, even a hedge or another front against China.) There could be, even, with the deals back on that, a BIG IF, that once Western companies get involved the less corrupt, or safer, business practices "trickle down," at least some and Russian and various 'Stans etc become less corrupt, over time. But never trust Russians, or Chinese. But rather have "friendship" than wars of any kind (keeping in mind always planning for them.)

Quote from: albrecht on February 14, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
As opposed to Hillary who operated an illegal, unsecured server and conducted official business on it and via private email accounts, even at very levels of classification, over it- and via her maid at her DC estate who would forward things to a yahoo account to Huma who, in turn, used the same unsecured device(s) as her husband when sexting under-age girls?  My pet theory was the insecure nature of the private, illegal server, devices, and email accounts was done  precisely for this purpose, not "I don't know IT," "I had a bump on my head," or "everybody does it": so that various donors to the Foundation(s) and political campaigns could gain access to DOS, and other, information but with the "plausible deniability"- that, so if discovered, it was "an IT problem" not Hillary or others "giving or allowing" access to the information to the various foreign governments, businesses, and royals who paid-for-play to their Foundation(s.)  Even if my pet theory is incorrect, and Hillary etc was simply incompetent or clueless, she still committed worse crimes than Flynn.

As an aside, I have another different theory? Has anyone considered the sacrifice of a pawn in a larger game? I see nobody, except me here earlier, consider that? On both "sides" it is either: the breaching of the dam, or, Trump caving into to pressure from the media, Deep State, Obama adherents, still in office or making poor decisions. Flynn is gone, but several others that were "controversial" have been appointed, and the media/Democrats, on the run with this story while other things are happening...maybe?

ps: hope sanctions lifted! And situation stabilized in Ukraine. Give Russia Crimea back. The people voted, it was historically Russian, even the 'minorities' (Cossacks) supported it. The vaunted UN tells us to respect elections and "people can decide, etc." Would love to restart the energy deals with Russia (great for shareholders and all) and end the new Cold War- better for Europe also- less stress in the Arctic, cheaper gas for them in cold times, better returns for shareholders and consumers of gas/petrol, less worry of escalation for war, and a united front against Islam- and, maybe, even a hedge or another front against China.) There could be, even, with the deals back on that, a BIG IF, that once Western companies get involved the less corrupt, or safer, business practices "trickle down," at least some and Russian and various 'Stans etc become less corrupt, over time. But never trust Russians, or Chinese. But rather have "friendship" than wars of any kind (keeping in mind always planning for them.)

No offense, but that sounds like a Kiplinger Washington Letter on meth.  :D 

Meister_000

Quote from: albrecht on February 14, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
Hillary committed worse crimes than Flynn.
Donald Trump and his entire Cabinet are *The Worst Crime* in American History, PERIOD.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 14, 2017, 09:25:48 PM
PERIOD.

Exactly! Every one of your posts is just an ongoing menstruation.  :D

WOTR

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 14, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
I'm going to start charging you when you theorize. First one's free. Second one will cost you a set of steak knives.

Theorizing about the third counts.
So... Dracula, or Nobel?  8)


K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on February 14, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
As an aside, I have another different theory? Has anyone considered the sacrifice of a pawn in a larger game? I see nobody, except me here earlier, consider that? On both "sides" it is either: the breaching of the dam, or, Trump caving into to pressure from the media, Deep State, Obama adherents, still in office or making poor decisions. Flynn is gone, but several others that were "controversial" have been appointed, and the media/Democrats, on the run with this story while other things are happening...maybe?

I think if they wanted it as a distraction they'd have made Pence stifle his pride and kept him on, since the line is currently that he's committed no crime and was just doing his job.  His resignation didn't do anything to cauterize the Russia charges.  Looks like a loss to me.

I hope they retain some unofficial link to him and his ideas because they certainly shook up the foreign-policy establishment and I'd be sorry to think they're no longer part of the discussion.

albrecht

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 14, 2017, 09:22:17 PM
No offense, but that sounds like a Kiplinger Washington Letter on meth.  :D
No offense! I take it as an accolade. Or, at least, benign recognition.

First, nice reference! Many dont remember or know said  company. Second, can you believe we give that stuff (well, reformulated) to kids?! I can't imagine my "walls of texts" (formerly called content, explanation, rhetoric,  or letters etc) if I was given than stuff early on, like kids are today?  :o

Meister_000

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 14, 2017, 09:39:19 PM
Exactly! Every one of your posts is just an ongoing menstruation.  :D

". . . for the sake of the purgation of the communal body, the embodiment of crisis within the society must be expelled/annihilated."

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 14, 2017, 09:47:42 PM
I think if they wanted it as a distraction they'd have made Pence stifle his pride and kept him on, since the line is currently that he's committed no crime and was just doing his job.  His resignation didn't do anything to cauterize the Russia charges.  Looks like a loss to me.

I hope they retain some unofficial link to him and his ideas because they certainly shook up the foreign-policy establishment and I'd be sorry to think they're no longer part of the discussion.
Remember...pawns can be regained...with MORE power.   ;)
Having said I speculate but these political games are the same as old ones. Only the speed changes. Much to be learned, even if schools say, history, and even novels, sagas, myths, Shakespeare, Bible, royal Intrigues, etc "don't relate, because don't matter and old."

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: albrecht on February 14, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
As opposed to Hillary...

Hillary. Hillary. Hillary!

Really? Is that all you have to defend your boy?  "but Hillary ___"...Hilary was never president, and if you want to go back in time to Bill's improprieties, we might as well include Bush and Cheney's war crimes. Your deflections are impotent and irrelevant in regard to the current administration's fuck ups.

Bottom line is, the man you so rabidly defend has spent his early days in office embroiled in chaos and dysfunction. He has no cabinet to speak of, and instead is surrounded by inexperienced aides who are winging it, as he is. The resulting lack of leadership has created a power vacuum and left America vulnerable. This house of cards simply can't hold up. Now would be a good time for the wiser, more level-headed Rs to step up to the plate, but they seem just as flummoxed as everyone else.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 14, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
Another excellent article about what took place with Flynn.

Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/former-obama-officials-loyalists-waged-campaign-oust-flynn/

So it turns out Obama and his flunkies are actively trying to undermine an incoming new president, in part to keep the details of the foolhardy Iran ''treaty'' secret.

Does any of this bother any of the O-bots on this board?  Does it, at long last, give them pause about the character and conduct of the former president as he fades away?  Not in the slightest. 

Jackstar

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 14, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
Another excellent article about what took place with Flynn.


I'll allow it. I'm busy with both of these barrels of monkeys.

Jackstar

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 14, 2017, 08:21:31 PM
she wouldn't be your Valentine.


I asked her but Hillary deleted the email.


Jackstar

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 14, 2017, 10:00:47 PM
the man you so rabidly defend has spent his early days in office embroiled in chaos and dysfunction





Good. It's what I hired him for. Whose fucking side are you on anyway, Faggot Lieutenant? Get out there and start filling sandbags for Sacramento. Those are orders... from Starfleet.


Lt.Uhura

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 14, 2017, 10:08:50 PM




Good. It's what I hired him for. Whose fucking side are you on anyway, Faggot Lieutenant? Get out there and start filling sandbags for Sacramento. Those are orders... from Starfleet.

Your captain is taking you down with the ship. Good luck, amigo! :P

Jackstar

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 14, 2017, 10:13:30 PM
Your captain is


... some other guy.


Let me guess--you're not clear on what the militia even is, are you?

albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 14, 2017, 10:00:47 PM
Hillary. Hillary. Hillary!

Really? Is that all you have to defend your boy?  "but Hillary ___"...Hilary was never president, and if you want to go back in time to Bill's improprieties, we might as well include Bush and Cheney's war crimes. Your deflections are impotent and irrelevant in regard to the current administration's fuck ups.

Bottom line is, the man you so rabidly defend has spent his early days in office embroiled in chaos and dysfunction. He has no cabinet to speak of, and instead is surrounded by inexperienced aides who are winging it, as he is. The resulting lack of leadership has created a power vacuum and left America vulnerable. This house of cards simply can't hold up. Now would be a good time for the wiser, more level-headed Rs to step up to the plate, but they seem just as flummoxed as everyone else.
"My boy?"  ;D
Funny, as I always mentioned,  my initial concern was that he was Hillary stalking-horse or even outright plant. DNC considering him that. I was always suspect of him. (Read posts) because of his connections to Clintons, NYC, Hollywood etc. And he is still too soft on immigration. But, as I said at length, between Trump and Hillary? Never a question.  Actually quite happy that, so far, he wasn't as I thought- and doing things he said. Despite the media and embedded bureaucrats against him. Im a bit sick of winning. So the Flynn pawn sacrifice was ok.

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 14, 2017, 10:00:47 PM
Hillary. Hillary. Hillary!

Really? Is that all you have to defend your boy?  "but Hillary ___"...Hilary was never president, and if you want to go back in time to Bill's improprieties, we might as well include Bush and Cheney's war crimes. Your deflections are impotent and irrelevant in regard to the current administration's fuck ups.

Bottom line is, the man you so rabidly defend has spent his early days in office embroiled in chaos and dysfunction. He has no cabinet to speak of, and instead is surrounded by inexperienced aides who are winging it, as he is. The resulting lack of leadership has created a power vacuum and left America vulnerable. This house of cards simply can't hold up. Now would be a good time for the wiser, more level-headed Rs to step up to the plate, but they seem just as flummoxed as everyone else.

After the 2000 election, instead of going through a smooth transition George W Bush had to deal with continuous legal challenges from Algor and the Democrats instead of putting a government into place, then having to put things together on the fly after being sworn in.  It is very possible this led directly to the administration missing information regarding 9/11.

The Democrats and their accomplices in the media have out done themselves this time around.  You may be right, by their attempts at hamstringing Trump they may be setting us up for another attack.

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on February 14, 2017, 10:14:53 PM
the Flynn pawn sacrifice


You and I remember the rules of chess very differently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIb1UiD4cMY


This is a sacrifice: That's Huma. I bet she's spicy.

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on February 14, 2017, 10:08:15 PM
Obama. Obama. Obama!

(see above, Hillary)

You say that as if he weren't complicit in this

Eight years ago weren't you one of the ones blaming ''Bush'' for everything Obama was screwing up?

Meister_000

Tonight: Trump/Putin image projected onto NYC building on 9th Avenue, Chelsea. (per Jeanine Ramirez)

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on February 14, 2017, 10:15:40 PM
After the 2000 election, instead of going through a smooth transition George W Bush had to deal with continuous legal challenges from Algor and the Democrats instead of putting a government into place, then having to put things together on the fly after being sworn in.  It's very possible this led directly to the administration missing information regarding 9/11.

The Democrats and their accomplices in the media have out done themselves this time around.  You may be right, by their attempts at hamstringing Trump they may be setting us up for another attack.

I'm not a democrat so I'm not here to defend them. But it's interesting how you Trump devotees twist reality to claim they're "hamstringing Trump". You can't possibly see the how the mistakes he and his lying, incompetent comrades have made led us to this current state of entropy?

albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 14, 2017, 10:20:17 PM

You and I remember the rules of chess very differently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIb1UiD4cMY


This is a sacrifice: That's Huma. I bet she's spicy.
Early game but maybe you will be right? Huma likely orders chorizo, the Mex kind not Spanish, on her pizza.  ;)

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