President Donald J. Trump

[21st Century Man]

Another excellent article about what took place with Flynn.

Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/former-obama-officials-loyalists-waged-campaign-oust-flynn/

[21st Century Man]

It isn't that; its the sanctimonious moral high ground that Reps take. Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and eliminate the corruption and self interests of officials.. Yeah? How is that going?

Republicans generally believe in good morals and Democrats don't.  I'll stick with the Republicans if you don't mind.  Sure they fail sometimes but it is something we all should aspire to.  No one is perfect.  The only thing the Democrats aspire to is holding power.

[Yorkshire pud]

Republicans generally believe in good morals and Democrats don't.  I'll stick with the Republicans if you don't mind.  Sure they fail sometimes but it is something we all should aspire to.  The only thing the Democrats aspire to is holding power.

Oh, so you think the deafening silence from the the Reps in both houses not to investigate the Flynn scandal and its implications is moral?

[21st Century Man]

What's absolutely terrifying is that I just figured out who you work for. OXOX

So who do I work for, Jack?  Maybe the people who killed Kennedy?  lol

[21st Century Man]

Oh, so you think the deafening silence from the the Reps in both houses not to investigate the Flynn scandal and its implications is moral?

Did you read the articles I just posted about how NSA types from the Obama administration were listening in on Flynn's calls when they shouldn't have been?  That is far more disturbing to me than what the Reps have or have not been doing.  And for the record, I blame Rance Priebus for the Flynn resignation.

[Luka Megurine]

So who do I work for, Jack?  Maybe the people who killed Kennedy?  lol

[Yorkshire pud]

Did you read the articles I just posted about how NSA types from the Obama administration were listening in on Flynn's calls when they shouldn't have been?  That is far more disturbing to me than what the Reps have or have not been doing.  And for the record, I blame Rance Priebus for the Flynn business.

Really? The time line okay?; Obama expels spooks from DC back to Russia 29th December. The WH fully anticipates that the Russians will reciprocate a similar expulsion, but it doesn't happen. In fact, quite the opposite; Putin throws a party for the American spooks and ambassador staff.

Between the expulsion and the party, Flynn calls the Russian ambassador in DC. The day after the party, Trump says he always knew Putin was a smart guy.

The none Russian reaction sparked the US spooks to investigate why. So they went over their surveiled calls from the Russian ambassador and discovered the calls between him and Flynn...and further investigation reveals he was chatting to the same guy in the campaign.

The US spooks told the WH via the then acting AG and staff. The WH still went ahead and had Flynn put in place. Only Flynn collated any intelligence he passed on to the POTUS. POTUS knew he was a potential blackmail risk three weeks ago, Pence only last friday. Oh, Pence is the VP by the way.

And add in that Flynn was paid to attend a RT dinner with Putin last year. That is against the rules too.

Tonight it seems that there are four more current WH staff being investigated for similar to Flynn. I wonder which four?

You're welcome.

[21st Century Man]

Really? The time line okay?; Obama expels spooks from DC back to Russia 29th December. The WH fully anticipates that the Russians will reciprocate a similar expulsion, but it doesn't happen. In fact, quite the opposite; Putin throws a party for the American spooks and ambassador staff.

Between the expulsion and the party, Flynn calls the Russian ambassador in DC. The day after the party, Trump says he always knew Putin was a smart guy.

The none Russian reaction sparked the US spooks to investigate why. So they went over their surveiled calls from the Russian ambassador and discovered the calls between him and Flynn...and further investigation reveals he was chatting to the same guy in the campaign.

The US spooks told the WH via the then acting AG and staff. The WH still went ahead and had Flynn put in place. Only Flynn collated any intelligence he passed on to the POTUS. POTUS knew he was a potential blackmail risk three weeks ago, Pence only last friday. Oh, Pence is the VP by the way.

And add in that Flynn was paid to attend a RT dinner with Putin last year. That is against the rules too.

Tonight it seems that there are four more current WH staff being investigated for similar to Flynn. I wonder which four?

You're welcome.

Flynn was going to expose the shenanigans behind the Iran deal but before he could, Obama plants in national security went on a systematic campaign to bring down Flynn.  I don't know about you but I'd like to know the details about the Iran deal.  Now that won't happen anytime soon.  Just who is covering things up?

[Meister_000]

The New Yorker | Feb 14, 2017
The White House would like you to "believe" that Michael Flynn’s sin was (merely) lying.

"To understand why this account is so self-serving and dubious, you have to review the chronology of events surrounding this unusual episode.

Almost immediately after Obama made his sanctions announcement, on December 29th, expelling thirty-five Russian diplomats and closing down two Russian compounds, the Russian government made clear that Putin would retaliate in kind.

“We, of course, cannot leave unanswered the insults of the kind, reciprocity is the law of diplomacy and foreign relations,” Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, said during televised remarks in Russia. “Thus, the Russian Foreign Ministry and officials of other authorities have suggested the Russian President to announce thirty-one personnel of the U.S. Embassy in Moscow and four diplomats from the Consulate General in St. Petersburg persona non grata.” Lavrov also said that he had recommended the closure of two U.S. facilities used by American diplomats.

Lavrov’s spokesman said, “Tomorrow there will be official statements, countermeasures.”

Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary to Vladimir Putin, affirmed that a reciprocal response would be forthcoming. “There is no doubt that Russia’s adequate and mirror response will make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable, as well,” he said. The Russian Embassy’s official account tweeted that Obama’s sanctions “are aimed directly at undermining bilateral relations,” and “they won’t be left unanswered.”

And then: nothing.

On Friday, December 30th, early in the morning in the United States (the afternoon in Moscow), an official statement from Putin was posted on the Kremlin’s Web site. “Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration,” the statement said. “We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone.”

A few hours later, Trump celebrated the decision. “Great move on delay (by V. Putin) â€" I always knew he was very smart!” he tweeted.

What happened between Obama’s statement on Thursday and Putin’s statement on Friday to change the Russian government’s response? This is the period when Flynn and the Russian Ambassador exchanged a flurry of communications, including, we now know with certainty, discussions about the Obama Administration’s sanctions.

Before the Post confirmed (in article of Feb. 9th) with nine officials that Flynn had discussed sanctions on those calls, both Vice-President Mike Pence and Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, denied that Flynn had. The White House would like this to be a story about Flynn lying to them."

http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/the-questionable-account-of-what-michael-flynn-told-the-white-house?mbid=social_twitter

[Yorkshire pud]

Two things that Trump said in the campaign that almost everyone assumed referred to Clinton;

1) He maintained the election was rigged.

2) He was asked if he'd accept the result of the election 'Yes, if I win"

Oh and Flynn said if he'd done a tenth of what Clinton had done, he'd go to jail...I guess he'll be getting changed now into prison fatigues?

[21st Century Man]

The New Yorker | Feb 14, 2017
The White House would like you to "believe" that Michael Flynn’s sin was (merely) lying.

"To understand why this account is so self-serving and dubious, you have to review the chronology of events surrounding this unusual episode.

Almost immediately after Obama made his sanctions announcement, on December 29th, expelling thirty-five Russian diplomats and closing down two Russian compounds, the Russian government made clear that Putin would retaliate in kind.

“We, of course, cannot leave unanswered the insults of the kind, reciprocity is the law of diplomacy and foreign relations,” Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, said during televised remarks in Russia. “Thus, the Russian Foreign Ministry and officials of other authorities have suggested the Russian President to announce thirty-one personnel of the U.S. Embassy in Moscow and four diplomats from the Consulate General in St. Petersburg persona non grata.” Lavrov also said that he had recommended the closure of two U.S. facilities used by American diplomats.

Lavrov’s spokesman said, “Tomorrow there will be official statements, countermeasures.”

Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary to Vladimir Putin, affirmed that a reciprocal response would be forthcoming. “There is no doubt that Russia’s adequate and mirror response will make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable, as well,” he said. The Russian Embassy’s official account tweeted that Obama’s sanctions “are aimed directly at undermining bilateral relations,” and “they won’t be left unanswered.”

And then: nothing.

On Friday, December 30th, early in the morning in the United States (the afternoon in Moscow), an official statement from Putin was posted on the Kremlin’s Web site. “Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration,” the statement said. “We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone.”

A few hours later, Trump celebrated the decision. “Great move on delay (by V. Putin) â€" I always knew he was very smart!” he tweeted.

What happened between Obama’s statement on Thursday and Putin’s statement on Friday to change the Russian government’s response? This is the period when Flynn and the Russian Ambassador exchanged a flurry of communications, including, we now know with certainty, discussions about the Obama Administration’s sanctions. Before the Post confirmed with nine officials that Flynn had discussed sanctions on those calls, both Vice-President Mike Pence and Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, denied that Flynn had. The White House would like this to be a story about Flynn lying to them."

http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/the-questionable-account-of-what-michael-flynn-told-the-white-house?mbid=social_twitter

[Dr. MD MD]

Why? Trump championed the leaking from Wikileaks in the campaign; what's so different?

NYT are headlining that four Trump aides had repeated contacts with Russian intelligence in the campaign. Four by-lines on this. Naturally, Trump will say its fake news.  :

Wikileaks releases EVERYTHING. This is just directed political sniping.  :

NYT 

Yes, they've been outed many times recently as being just that.  :

[21st Century Man]

Two things that Trump said in the campaign that almost everyone assumed referred to Clinton;

1) He maintained the election was rigged.

2) He was asked if he'd accept the result of the election 'Yes, if I win"

Oh and Flynn said if he'd done a tenth of what Clinton had done, he'd go to jail...I guess he'll be getting changed now into prison fatigues?

He lied to Pence.  He didn't lie under oath. Big difference.

[Yorkshire pud]

He lied to Pence.  He didn't lie under oath. Big difference.

He lied to the FBI too...you okay with that? But even if it was just to Pence, are you serious? The security advisor lies to the VP...not even a month into the first term? LOL

[Meister_000]

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Thank you for final absolute confirmation of your capacities.

[Yorkshire pud]

Wikileaks releases EVERYTHING. This is just directed political sniping.  :

NYT 

Yes, they've been outed many times recently as being just that.  :

Hmmm, I'll go with the latest NYT story having more legs than what you say. No offence lol

[21st Century Man]

He lied to the FBI too...you okay with that? But even if it was just to Pence, are you serious? The security advisor lies to the VP...not even a month into the first term? LOL

I'm sure Hillary lied to the FBI too.  Where did that get her?  Nowhere. 

[21st Century Man]

Hmmm, I'll go with the latest NYT story having more legs than what you say. No offence lol

Mainstream media cuck.

[Yorkshire pud]

I'm sure Hillary lied to the FBI too.  Where did that get her?  Nowhere.

You're sure? Okay...

[21st Century Man]

You're sure? Okay...

Yep.  Not to mention lying to the American people about Benghazi.  Did she get fired?  Nope.  You're going on and on.  Much ado about nothing.

[Dr. MD MD]

Hmmm, I'll go with the latest NYT story having more legs than what you say. No offence lol

You would. LOL!  :

[Lt.Uhura]

Do you have a list handy of the governments that respected Obama?

Even more to the point would be the list of the world's despots and dictators who were supporting a Trump presidency. I guess it takes one to know one. (I remember posting it here myself, will post again or you can Google it yourself).

[Kidnostad3]

The New Yorker | Feb 14, 2017
The White House would like you to "believe" that Michael Flynn’s sin was (merely) lying.

"To understand why this account is so self-serving and dubious, you have to review the chronology of events surrounding this unusual episode.

Almost immediately after Obama made his sanctions announcement, on December 29th, expelling thirty-five Russian diplomats and closing down two Russian compounds, the Russian government made clear that Putin would retaliate in kind.

“We, of course, cannot leave unanswered the insults of the kind, reciprocity is the law of diplomacy and foreign relations,” Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, said during televised remarks in Russia. “Thus, the Russian Foreign Ministry and officials of other authorities have suggested the Russian President to announce thirty-one personnel of the U.S. Embassy in Moscow and four diplomats from the Consulate General in St. Petersburg persona non grata.” Lavrov also said that he had recommended the closure of two U.S. facilities used by American diplomats.

Lavrov’s spokesman said, “Tomorrow there will be official statements, countermeasures.”

Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary to Vladimir Putin, affirmed that a reciprocal response would be forthcoming. “There is no doubt that Russia’s adequate and mirror response will make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable, as well,” he said. The Russian Embassy’s official account tweeted that Obama’s sanctions “are aimed directly at undermining bilateral relations,” and “they won’t be left unanswered.”

And then: nothing.

On Friday, December 30th, early in the morning in the United States (the afternoon in Moscow), an official statement from Putin was posted on the Kremlin’s Web site. “Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration,” the statement said. “We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone.”

A few hours later, Trump celebrated the decision. “Great move on delay (by V. Putin) â€" I always knew he was very smart!” he tweeted.

What happened between Obama’s statement on Thursday and Putin’s statement on Friday to change the Russian government’s response? This is the period when Flynn and the Russian Ambassador exchanged a flurry of communications, including, we now know with certainty, discussions about the Obama Administration’s sanctions.

Before the Post confirmed with nine officials that Flynn had discussed sanctions on those calls, both Vice-President Mike Pence and Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, denied that Flynn had. The White House would like this to be a story about Flynn lying to them."

http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/the-questionable-account-of-what-michael-flynn-told-the-white-house?mbid=social_twitter

So you have a transcript of what was said.  If you do, you are in possession of classified material that was illegally divulged and when they find out who the traitorous bastard is who leaked it he will do federal time.  (I would actually prefer that he be shot.). Expect to be questioned as a material witness and possible coconspititor. 

OBTW:  OBAMA IS SEEN BY THE ARAB WORLD AS A WEAKLING WHO BETRAYS FRIENDS AND BLOWS UP WEDDING PARTIES AND HOSPITALS.  IRAN THUMBED ITS NOSE AT HIM ON A DAILY BASIS AND STILL DOES AND THE RUSSIANS THINK HE'S A DUFUS WHO IS EASY TO PUSH AROUND.  THE CHINESE ATE HIS LUNCH EVERY DAY FOR 8 YEARS.  THERE WAS EVEN TALK BY THE SWEDES OF TAKING BACK THE NOBEL PRIZE THAT HE WAS GIVEN FOR GETTING ELECTED IN 2008.  OH BUT HE DID RESTORE RELATIONS WITH CUBA.  THAT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A BLESSING FOR THE PEOPLE OF CUBA AND THE UNITED STATES.  AND OF COURSE RACE RELATIONS HAVE IMPROVED IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE ACÁ IS A SWIMMING SUCCESS..  OBAMA COULDN'T HAVE  FUCKED THINGS UP WORSE IF HE TRIED.

THE DEMOCRAT LOSS IN THE 2016 ELECTION WAS A REBUKE OF OBAMA AND THE PARTY AND OF IDIOTS LIKE YOU.

[Yorkshire pud]

So you have a transcript of what was said.  If you do, you are in possession of classified material that was illegally divulged and when they find out who the traitorous bastard is who leaked it he will do federal time.  (I would actually prefer that he be shot.). Expect to be questioned as a material witness and possible coconspititor. 

OBTW:  OBAMA IS SEEN BY THE ARAB WORLD AS A WEAKLING WHO BETRAYS FRIENDS AND BLOWS UP WEDDING PARTIES AND HOSPITALS.  IRAN THUMBED ITS NOSE AT HIM ON A DAIL BASIS AND STILL DOES AND THE RUSSIANS THINK HE'S A DUFUS WHO IS EASY TO PUSH AROUND.  THE CHINESE ATE HIS LUNCH EVERY DAY FOR 8 YEARS.  THERE WAS EVEN TALK BY THE SWEDES OF TAKING BACK THE NOBEL PRIZE THAT HE WAS GIVEN FOR GETTING ELECTED IN 2008.  OH BUT HE DID RESTORE RELATIONS WITH CUBA.  THAT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A BLESSING FOR THE PEOPLE OF CUBA AND THE UNITED STATES.  AND OF COURSE RACE RELATIONS HAVE IMPROVED IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE ACÁ IS A SWIMMING SUCCESS..  OBAMA COULDN'T HAVE  FUCKED THINGS UP WORSE IF HE TRIED.

THE DEMOCRAT LOSS IN THE 2016 WAS A REBUKE OF OBAMA AND THE PARTY AND OF IDIOTS LIKE YOU.

The king is naked. 

[Dr. MD MD]

The king is naked. 

So is your queen...and she's waiting for her bum to be wiped. Off with ya! 

[21st Century Man]

So is your queen...and she's waiting for her num to be wiped. Off with ya! 

[Kidnostad3]

The king is naked. 

You can't even get that right.  It was the emperor who had no clothes. 

[PB the Deplorable]

It isn't that; its the sanctimonious moral high ground that Reps take. Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and eliminate the corruption and self interests of officials.. Yeah? How is that going?

Well, since Hilary and her little terrorist toadie mole Huma aren't in the White House piling up billions more in bribes to the ''Clinton Foundation'', I'd say things are going quite well thank you.

And no matter what happens over the next four years, that's going to be the case.

Next question

[PB the Deplorable]

Republicans generally believe in good morals and Democrats don't.  I'll stick with the Republicans if you don't mind.  Sure they fail sometimes but it is something we all should aspire to.  No one is perfect.  The only thing the Democrats aspire to is holding power.

And extending control over the rest of us.

[Jackstar]

So who do I work for, Jack?

I am not being paid to reveal that.

Maybe the people who killed Kennedy?  lol

I'm going to start charging you when you theorize. First one's free. Second one will cost you a set of steak knives.

Theorizing about the third counts.