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President Donald J. Trump

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albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 05:53:47 PM
I'm just one of those people who prefer real news to fake news
Remember: there is no truth, only a matter of perspective, a result of inherent bias in our culture, or a self-fulfilling prophecy, etc. Even your gender is simply a social construct.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 05:58:07 PM
That would be Fox and Friends "Home of the Real Fake News"

More like CNN, NYT, et al.  ;)

Meister_000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 15, 2017, 05:49:58 PM
Horse Shit.  The Attorney General is a cabinet member.  What AG does not have a political relationship with the President.  Did the FBI under Loretta Lynch not investigate Hilliary's email bust.  Was not Loretta Lynch appointed to the federal bench by Bill Clinton.  Did Bill not visit her on on the tarmac in Phoenix.  You and Schumer are fucking morons.

I'm sorry you lost your way. So, one more time:
The Justice Department's rule on the matter is brief: "No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome.

Quote from: albrecht on February 15, 2017, 05:59:08 PM
Remember: there is no truth, only a matter of perspective, a result of inherent bias in our culture, or a self-fulfilling prophecy, etc. Even your gender is simply a social construct.

I would postulate that there is truth, but we're rarely able to see all of it because our perspective is usually limited by incomplete knowledge of it.

TigerLily

Quote from: albrecht on February 15, 2017, 05:59:08 PM
Remember: there is no truth, only a matter of perspective, a result of inherent bias in our culture, or a self-fulfilling prophecy, etc. Even your gender is simply a social construct.

Very philosophical, albrecht. But there are Facts. And then there are Alternative Facts. Which do you prefer?

albrecht

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 15, 2017, 06:02:26 PM
I'm sorry you lost your way. So, one more time:
The Justice Department's rule on the matter is brief: "No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome.
I love the entertainment of all of these Democrats and Leftists now concerned about corruption or foreign entanglements. And now loving wars and them evil Russians- we got to start it up again! The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming! And bringing in things like the Logan Act and problems with "personal relationships." Haha. They are even talking about "truth," tax protests, State Rights, and even secession. It is awesome. And all because of Trump (and some suicidal notion they hold that illegal aliens, no borders, and more radical Muslims is a good thing.) I'm sick of winning.

TigerLily

Quote from: albrecht on February 15, 2017, 06:11:26 PM
I love the entertainment of all of these Democrats and Leftists now concerned about corruption or foreign entanglements. And now loving wars and them evil Russians- we got to start it up again! The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming! And bringing in things like the Logan Act and problems with "personal relationships." Haha. They are even talking about "truth," tax protests, State Rights, and even secession. It is awesome. And all because of Trump (and some suicidal notion they hold that illegal aliens, no borders, and more radical Muslims is a good thing.) I'm sick of winning.

Still lost in the weeds? The concern is how beholden is Trump to the Russians

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 06:13:08 PM
Still lost in the weeds? The concern is how beholden is Trump to the Russians

If at all. You keep forgetting that part. :D

albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 06:08:52 PM
Very philosophical, albrecht. But there are Facts. And then there are Alternative Facts. Which do you prefer?
Not to wax philosophical but for some time the left has told us that there aren't facts- only a matter of perspective, biases, editorial judgement, or problems with perception. Or just a social construct or a result of inherent, systemic, and/or cultural racism, sexism, bias, etc.

albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 06:13:08 PM
Still lost in the weeds? The concern is how beholden is Trump to the Russians
As I've stated before I would like to have a better relationship with the Russians and hope the sanctions are lifted, the situation is stabilized in the various "problem regions" (no more wars and Cold Wars or problems over the Arctic, Ukraine and the various Ossestias etc) and we get better business going and take on the common enemy- radical Muslims, the rise of Asian countries (though most of Russia is arguably Asian,) and better exploit the resources Russia has. Get the oil and gas deals back on track- cheaper, more reliable, and good for stockholders. And wean us off the Middle-East and all their messes (and messes we've created because we want the resources.) Never trust the Russians but I don't care, and certainly not going to escalate the situation, if they pass innocuous laws about homosexuals or ban us from adopting their kids or whatever domestic policy. I don't accept foreign aggression, assassinations, etc (not that we don't but we are the good guy so it is ok) but could care less what they do in Chechnya or to terrorists. It could be possible? Maybe? Over some decades that doing business with them and more 'soft' foreign policy that the corruption in Russia would change? Maybe or maybe not but I'd rather a civil, profitable relationship rather than war or even proxy wars. This coming from a die-hard anti-Commie, Red Dawn lover.

ps: interesting Op-Ed, not news even "fake news," but from a "fake news" source.  ;)
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/opinion/russias-ideology-there-is-no-truth.html?_r=0

TigerLily

Quote from: albrecht on February 15, 2017, 06:18:47 PM
Not to wax philosophical but for some time the left has told us that there aren't facts- only a matter of perspective, biases, editorial judgement, or problems with perception. Or just a social construct or a result of inherent, systemic, and/or cultural racism, sexism, bias, etc.

What is this Left of which you speak

Dr. MD MD


Quote from: albrecht on February 15, 2017, 06:27:17 PM
As I've stated before I would like to have a better relationship with the Russians and hope the sanctions are lifted, the situation is stabilized in the various "problem regions" (no more wars and Cold Wars or problems over the Arctic, Ukraine and the various Ossestias etc) and we get better business going and take on the common enemy- radical Muslims, the rise of Asian countries (though most of Russia is arguably Asian,) and better exploit the resources Russia has. Get the oil and gas deals back on track- cheaper, more reliable, and good for stockholders. And wean us off the Middle-East and all their messes (and messes we've created because we want the resources.) Never trust the Russians but I don't care, and certainly not going to escalate the situation, if they pass innocuous laws about homosexuals or ban us from adopting their kids or whatever domestic policy. I don't accept foreign aggression, assassinations, etc (not that we don't but we are the good guy so it is ok) but could care less what they do in Chechnya or to terrorists. It could be possible? Maybe? Over some decades that doing business with them and more 'soft' foreign policy that the corruption in Russia would change? Maybe or maybe not but I'd rather a civil, profitable relationship rather than war or even proxy wars. This coming from a die-hard anti-Commie, Red Dawn lover.

I'm all for better relations with Russia, and every other country for that matter, but I'd rather keep relations with Putin cool, aloof, and cordially adversarial. Russia will be there long after he's gone, and instead of cozying up to him and possibly making unwise concessions, we should be formulating a plan for how to proceed when he's out of power.

TigerLily

Quote from: albrecht on February 15, 2017, 06:27:17 PM
As I've stated before I would like to have a better relationship with the Russians and hope the sanctions are lifted, the situation is stabilized in the various "problem regions" (no more wars and Cold Wars or problems over the Arctic, Ukraine and the various Ossestias etc) and we get better business going and take on the common enemy- radical Muslims, the rise of Asian countries (though most of Russia is arguably Asian,) and better exploit the resources Russia has. Get the oil and gas deals back on track- cheaper, more reliable, and good for stockholders. And wean us off the Middle-East and all their messes (and messes we've created because we want the resources.) Never trust the Russians but I don't care, and certainly not going to escalate the situation, if they pass innocuous laws about homosexuals or ban us from adopting their kids or whatever domestic policy. I don't accept foreign aggression, assassinations, etc (not that we don't but we are the good guy so it is ok) but could care less what they do in Chechnya or to terrorists. It could be possible? Maybe? Over some decades that doing business with them and more 'soft' foreign policy that the corruption in Russia would change? Maybe or maybe not but I'd rather a civil, profitable relationship rather than war or even proxy wars. This coming from a die-hard anti-Commie, Red Dawn lover.

ps: interesting Op-Ed, not news even "fake news," but from a "fake news" source.  ;)
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/opinion/russias-ideology-there-is-no-truth.html?_r=0

When did your personal Cold War begin to defrost?

Profitable for whom? There's the issue. Do you think Trump and his staff's cozy relationship with Russia deserves some scrutiny?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 15, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
I'm all for better relations with Russia, and every other country for that matter, but I'd rather keep relations with Putin cool, aloof, and cordially adversarial.

I think you just contradicted yourself there, chief.  :D

Cordially adversarial?! What an oxymoron!  ;D

albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 06:33:00 PM
What is this Left of which you speak
The ideas I mentioned are mainly in the English and Philosophy Departments (never ventured into the Gender or various Racial Studies departments and can't imagine what stuff they come up with) and the media. The Left is an umbrella that is pretty large and encompasses a lot of different group but the main thing is the "collective" versus the individual, contrary to what they like to think. Conformity by abnormality, etc.

ps: you might like this short and older, Op-Ed about Russia and "truth." It was worse under the commies but still using the same type of system. There is no truth or truth is what you want it to be, etc. Corruption also is so ingrained I'm not sure how long it would take to clean up, from my experience. But better than wars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/opinion/russias-ideology-there-is-no-truth.html?_r=0

Yorkshire pud

More fake news from the Right wing Press..  :-\

https://www.wsj.com/articles/spies-keep-intelligence-from-donald-trump-1487209351

Quote
U.S. intelligence officials have withheld sensitive intelligence from President Donald Trump because they are concerned it could be leaked or compromised, according to current and former officials familiar with the matter.


As told in last Sunday's Observer too..  8)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 15, 2017, 06:37:15 PM
I think you just contradicted yourself there, chief.  :D

Cordially adversarial?! What an oxymoron!  ;D

Otherwise known as walk softly but carry a big stick.

albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 06:35:00 PM
When did your personal Cold War begin to defrost?
Meeting and hiring some after it was "over" as opposed to only knowing those who left to come here and so, obviously, against Russia, etc. Also seeing how we so screwed up the Cold War ending. We had a real opportunity, I think, to get better relations but we thought simply throw cash and too-quickly dismantling things (sound familiar) and/or gloating or attempting to seize the opportunity to expand our influence and continued to listen to the old, familiar guys about hegemony etc. I almost sound like a Leftist, ha. But more a realist who prefers dominating by culture, law, and business than war (except when needed) but also allowing for cultural differences and not exporting the worst of ours. Nations need borders. Real multiculturalism is allowing nations to exist.

Dropping some sanctions and things like the XOM, BP, etc etc deals would benefit shareholders, Europeans, Russians, and the normal US citizen. Cheaper, more reliable energy, cutting out more unstable systems of delivery or costs, farmers and businesses, etc. Also help the more poorer NATO countries who might be swayed another way, if not allowed to trade with the Russians.

Jackstar

Quote from: StarrMountain® 2010 on February 15, 2017, 03:52:23 PM
President Donald Drumpf and Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu Press Conference and Q and A.  2.15.17.

I just finished watching this. Mouth hung agape for the last 80%.



Half of you armchair citizens barely know what the other half is missing while pissing down your leg and telling you it is rain.



Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 15, 2017, 04:12:27 PM
I love you more than you'll ever know Jack. Seriously.  :-*





Quote from: huge nerd raging faggot on February 15, 2017, 05:44:37 PM
So essentially you're okay with the possibility that Flynn and others may have committed treason?

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 15, 2017, 04:03:26 PM
... whose side are you on, anyway?

WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 15, 2017, 05:53:20 PM
Nice!! How many times on any given day would you say you type Hitler anyway?
Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 15, 2017, 05:56:55 PM
First time in many weeks. But you're too easy and I can't guarantee I won't use it again in response to a future post of yours. So stay on your toes.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 15, 2017, 05:59:08 PM
FIFY  ;)

I have no life...  After searching through YP's posting history, he is telling the truth.  But what is really interesting is that he quoted others who brought up Hitler who are almost all right leaning.

Pyewacket- Feb 4
DrMDMD- Feb 1
Albrecht- Jan 29
KOK))) - Jan 29
PB - Jan 29
Gravitysucks- Jan 22
Albrecht - Jan 17


In response to Albrecht's post on the 17th, YP did type


Quote from: Got to love an Aston on January 17, 2017, 07:27:02 PM
Not Hitler, more Saladin. Shoot the messenger if the news is not favourable. I didn't say they became neo nazis; nor that they were the majority. But the neo nazis who voted, didn't vote Clinton.

Precicely 1350 posts ago, he did type "Hitler."  For the record... The answer is roughly every 2,490,400 seconds YP seems to type that hateful word...

***Damn YP, you post a lot!  >:(

Jackstar

Quote from: TigerLily on February 15, 2017, 06:35:00 PM
Do you think Drumpf Clinton and his staff's cozy relationship with Russia Qatar deserves some scrutiny?

Skip the polenta, wench. You're on deck for fucking lobster now.

Quote from: albrecht on February 15, 2017, 06:38:01 PM
The ideas I mentioned are mainly in the English and Philosophy Departments (never ventured into the Gender or various Racial Studies departments and can't imagine what stuff they come up with) and the media. The Left is an umbrella that is pretty large and encompasses a lot of different group but the main thing is the "collective" versus the individual, contrary to what they like to think. Conformity by abnormality, etc.

ps: you might like this short and older, Op-Ed about Russia and "truth." It was worse under the commies but still using the same type of system. There is no truth or truth is what you want it to be, etc. Corruption also is so ingrained I'm not sure how long it would take to clean up, from my experience. But better than wars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/opinion/russias-ideology-there-is-no-truth.html?_r=0

I believe you.  ;)

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 15, 2017, 06:43:30 PM
Otherwise known as walk softly but carry a big stick.

He would have figured it out eventually. Don't be so condescending all the time.  ::)

WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 04, 2017, 01:54:07 PM
I was going to point that out but I was prretty sure it would just go into my Hitler file.  ::)
If you have started to wonder...
Roughly 928,000 seconds for you.  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on February 15, 2017, 06:46:28 PM
I have no life...  After searching through YP's posting history, he is telling the truth.  But what is really interesting is that he quoted others who brought up Hitler who are almost all right leaning.

Pyewacket- Feb 4
DrMDMD- Feb 1
Albrecht- Jan 29
KOK))) - Jan 29
PB - Jan 29
Gravitysucks- Jan 22
Albrecht - Jan 17


In response to Albrecht's post on the 17th, YP did type


Precicely 1350 posts ago, he did type "Hitler."  For the record... The answer is roughly every 2,490,400 seconds YP seems to type that hateful word...

***Damn YP, you post a lot!  >:(

Devastating.  :-\

I'll be sulking in ruin now.  :(

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 15, 2017, 06:02:26 PM
I'm sorry you lost your way. So, one more time:
The Justice Department's rule on the matter is brief: "No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome.

You are still a fucking idiot.  How was Sessions in any way involved in the Flynn matter.  But for the sake of argument suppose he was, he could simply recuse himself.   Do you remember when Lynch said she would rely on the FBI's recommendation. Your ignorance continues to amaze.


WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 15, 2017, 06:52:08 PM
Devastating.  :-\

I'll be sulking in ruin now.  :(
Did you catch your stats?  :D

albrecht

Quote from: WOTR on February 15, 2017, 06:46:28 PM
I have no life...  After searching through YP's posting history, he is telling the truth.  But what is really interesting is that he quoted others who brought up Hitler who are almost all right leaning.

Pyewacket- Feb 4
DrMDMD- Feb 1
Albrecht- Jan 29
KOK))) - Jan 29
PB - Jan 29
Gravitysucks- Jan 22
Albrecht - Jan 17


In response to Albrecht's post on the 17th, YP did type


Precicely 1350 posts ago, he did type "Hitler."  For the record... The answer is roughly every 2,490,400 seconds YP seems to type that hateful word...

***Damn YP, you post a lot!  >:(

Ha, great job! Imagine if the power of you and the internet BG could be put to productive or good use!  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 15, 2017, 06:43:30 PM
Otherwise known as walk softly but carry a big stick.

No. He didn't say that. You can either be cordial or you can be adversarial but you can't be both, not at the same time. Not without being a totally disingenuous douchebag, anyway.  ;)

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