President Donald J. Trump

[Inglorious Bitch]

I'm doing this for your own good. Perhaps  a name change to Illiterate Bitch?

Ug. Spellcheck fails me again.

[PB the Deplorable]

For God's sakes. Over the course of 4 decades these are blips! And it's Berkeley ffs, a college town, and not just any college town. With it's history what else would you expect? This a _very_ big country -- the scale and "threat" (of post-60's) Berkeley has been virtually insignificant. The "mighty" impact of the goings-on in Berkeley were so insignificant you couldn't even feel it 10 miles away across the bay. If you watched the news footage of the SF quake in 1989 you would have thought the entire city was engulfed by fire. It was literally a few buildings in the Marina district.

You are so full of shit.  The protests I mentioned were mostly in San Francisco.  They were attacking police, chaining themselves together, burning dumpsters, lighting buildings on fire, blocking roads and bridges, destroying cars, breaking windows, assaulting people, you know, the usual.

10s of thousands of people (while of course claiming 100s of thousands).

In your original post below, you claim ''nary a whimper of protest or activism of ANY KIND to speak of in the SF Bay Area during that *entire* 37 year period''.  Now it's ''blips'', but only in Berkeley.

Why are you lying?  Do you really think people will believe none of this occurred in SF in the ''37 years from 1980''?  Throughout the whole Reagan term, throughout the whole Sandinista/Contra period, throughout the whole nuclear arms dealings with the Soviets, throughout the invasions of Grenada, Iraq, the incident with Libya, etc?  The thuggy SF Left just sat on their hands the whole time?  Is that what everyone else remembers?

I would be embarrassed about it too, but I thought the people supporting this garbage were proud of it.

It's not just rhetoric it's Bullshit. I've lived IN San Francisco for 37 years, since exacly 1980. Fact is, there was nary a whimper of protest or activism of ANY KIND to speak of in the SF Bay Area during that *entire* 37 year period _except_ a few flare-ups around the time of Occupy and a couple in the last 2 or 3 years over police killings of Blacks both nation-wide and locally. You are completely full of shit. [and I was a teenager in the late 60's so I know/remember what Real protest-times look like!]

[Yorkshire pud]

Um, the executive has specific powers, as does the Congress, as does the judiciary. 

The Congress legislates or doesn't.  The president can sign a bill or veto it.  If the Congress refuses to pass legislation a president wants, that's the end of it - he doesn't then bypass them and create whatever law he wants.

As far as the judiciary, they have jurisdiction to settle disputes in certain areas.  In certain other areas - such as immigration and deciding what is in the interest of national security, they have no jurisdiction.  The phony judges in the 9th Circuit were asking Trump's lawyers for proof the ''immigrants'' from those countries posed a threat.  That is not their role, their role is to interpret the law - and the law is the president decides.

They also had it pointed out that as it stood, the EO wasn't valid. Less so when the on/off yes to Green cards/no to Green cards debacle was highlighted. The DoJ went with a busted flush; they should have known that;that they didn't demonstrates their incompetence.

I hope that helps, although from past experience I know you'll ignore it and just continue on.  That's ok, we're used to the Libs here going through any channel to get their way, Constitutional or not, why would you be any different

Nope; not ignoring you, but it is revealing that Obama only had to fart and you'd call for his removal; Trump hasn't as yet done anything that wasn't from a fit of pique or just idiotic due to the lack of thought, intelligence or consultation.

[Meister_000]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/world/asia/trump-twitter-north-korea-missiles-china.html?_r=0
January 2nd.
‘It Won’t Happen,’ Donald Trump Says of North Korean Missile Test;
Today.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38947451

Ya right; the "BBC". Talk about FAKE liberal limey drool!

[Yorkshire pud]

I know what it is to make a midlife career change.  Ain't easy and I had some retirement money coming in.

Most prominently, Trump has been doing exactly what he said he was going to do with his executive orders and efforts to bring back industry.  Whatever you think of him, he's indefatigable and focused and is keeping his word as best he can.  I trust and respect action more than I do words.

But he hasn't really; He trotted out the Intel thing the other day. Obama did the same one a few years ago. The five most top selling cars in the USA are Japanese. Whatever Trump might want everyone (including the company CEO's) to think; he will not bring millions of jobs back into the USA; He won't resurrect the steel industry. He may be forced into turning over several million dollars as sweeteners for firms threatening to take a token amount of jobs out of the USA.

He's living in a fantasy. I've been in industry pretty much all my life, and not  pushing a pen in the meantime. I know how profit margins are frequently single figure percentages above the final cost. Its so competitive, and the Chinese and the South Koreans and the Mexicans and the East Europeans can do it cheaper. Not necessarily as good; but good enough for it to sell and be made worthwhile.


As for keeping his word; I can't see any evidence of that, because I wouldn't be convinced if he told me that the Pope was Catholic. Trump is a pathological liar.

[Yorkshire pud]

Ya right; the "BBC". Talk about FAKE liberal limey drool!

[Kidnostad3]

But he hasn't really; He trotted out the Intel thing the other day. Obama did the same one a few years ago. The five most top selling cars in the USA are Japanese. Whatever Trump might want everyone (including the company CEO's) to think; he will not bring millions of jobs back into the USA; He won't resurrect the steel industry. He may be forced into turning over several million dollars as sweeteners for firms threatening to take a token amount of jobs out of the USA.

He's living in a fantasy. I've been in industry pretty much all my life, and not  pushing a pen in the meantime. I know how profit margins are frequently single figure percentages above the final cost. Its so competitive, and the Chinese and the South Koreans and the Mexicans and the East Europeans can do it cheaper. Not necessarily as good; but good enough for it to sell and be made worthwhile.


As for keeping his word; I can't see any evidence of that, because I wouldn't be convinced if he told me that the Pope was Catholic. Trump is a pathological liar.

We shall see.  MAGA!

[Yorkshire pud]

Ya right; the "BBC". Talk about FAKE liberal limey drool!

Trump can make Baron the ambassador for China and sort it out; or just tweet to tell China to rein in NK. Either will work, I just hope Nordstrom doesn't do anything silly in the meantime to distract him. 

[PB the Deplorable]

... Nope; not ignoring you, but it is revealing that Obama only had to fart and you'd call for his removal; Trump hasn't as yet done anything that wasn't from a fit of pique or just idiotic due to the lack of thought, intelligence or consultation.

The difference is Obama consistently went well beyond his Constitutional authority.  Trump hasn't to any significant degree that I'm aware if.

Whether you or anyone else agrees with Trump, whether you like or don't like what you think is his thought process, whether you like or don't like comments he makes is irrelevant - he was elected to make certain decisions, and has the Constitutional authority to do so. 

I don't like certain things he's said and done either, and we'll get to that at some point, but right now the Constitution is under assault from the usual anti-democratic pukes and that comes first.

I don't want to hear about Nordstroms, or some undiplomatic comment he makes.  Let me know when he bypasses the Senate and installs an illegal arms-for-hostages type ''treaty'' with an enemy like Iran, or sets up an unsecure server full of classified information in his barn, or runs a pay-for-play ''charitable foundation'', or his appointees lie about something like Benghazi in a Congressional hearing while under oath.

[Meister_000]

You are so full of shit.  The protests I mentioned were mostly in San Francisco. 
. . . Do you really think people will believe none of this occurred in SF in the ''37 years from 1980''? . . .
The thuggy SF Left just sat on their hands the whole time? . .

You are one unbelievably looney tune! I don't even know how to respond to your insanity! Now you're going to tell me about what's been going on in SF since 1980? Really? "The thuggy SF Left"?? There is no active left in SF unless it has something to do with Gay rights stuff! Seriously! SF is and has been essentially brain-dead since 1982/3 (end of Punk/New Wave scene) with the exception of a little "Occupy" sympathetic activity. I'm sure there were a few incidental protests here and there over the years but now we're _really_ talking about "blips" on the screen. You are scaring me now (you're so far off base). Your usual rubbish (hysteria) is bad enough, but now you propose to tell me about my own city? I don't think so. There's only so much cognitive dissonance I can tollerate. (Please get some help.)

[Luka Megurine]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/830571380664070149

[Yorkshire pud]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/830571380664070149

Nothing to his non reaction to being asked about NK missile test. I wonder if he's been told, or is he just genuinely unsure about what to say? Not even a 'Yes. I'm aware it happened' Or he's wetting his pants?

[Kidnostad3]

You are one unbelievably looney tune! I don't even know how to respond to your insanity! Now you're going to tell me about what's been going on in SF since 1980? Really? "The thuggy SF Left"?? There is no active left in SF unless it has something to do with Gay rights stuff! Seriously! SF is and has been essentially brain-dead since 1982 (end of Punk/New Wave scene) with the exception of a little "Occupy" sympathetic activity. I'm sure there were a few incidental protests here and there over the years but now we're _really_ talking about "blips" on the screen. You are scaring now (you're so far off base). Your usual rubbish (hysteria) is bad enough, but now you propose to tell me about my own city? I don't think so. There's only so much cognitive dissonance I can tollerate. (Please get some help.)

You really don't understand that those "blips" don't happen in other cities with the regularity that they occur in your fair city?  Your "few incidental protests" are not the norm in most other cities but are an aberration.   But you probably can't get your head around that can you?

[Meister_000]

You really don't understand that those "blips" don't happen in other cities with the regularity that they occur in your fair city?  Your "few incidental protests" are not the norm in most other cities but are an aberration.   But you probably can't get your head around that can you?

What there _is_ in SF is a very small core of perhaps 30 individuals (goof-balls) who are basically a media-event-driven theater-troop who show up like clock-work for every imaginable cause or complaint and make as much noise as they possibly can for the camera crews. No-one here takes them seriously. You hicks probably do, but all that means is that they succeeded enough to make _YOU_ believe it. Silly girl.

[PB the Deplorable]

You are one unbelievably looney tune! I don't even know how to respond to your insanity! Now you're going to tell me about what's been going on in SF since 1980? Really? "The thuggy SF Left"?? There is no active left in SF unless it has something to do with Gay rights stuff! Seriously! SF is and has been essentially brain-dead since 1982/3 (end of Punk/New Wave scene) with the exception of a little "Occupy" sympathetic activity. I'm sure there were a few incidental protests here and there over the years but now we're _really_ talking about "blips" on the screen. You are scaring me now (you're so far off base). Your usual rubbish (hysteria) is bad enough, but now you propose to tell me about my own city? I don't think so. There's only so much cognitive dissonance I can tollerate. (Please get some help.)

You either weren't there, weren't paying attention, are intentionally lying, or are senile. 

[aldousburbank]

You either weren't there, weren't paying attention, are intentionally lying, or are senile.

Can't it be all three?

[albrecht]

You either weren't there, weren't paying attention, are intentionally lying, or are senile.

I read some article in a "mainstream" paper about how bad SF has become- homeless people crapping in broad daylight, homeless camps, light-posts falling over due to having been pissed on so many times, illegal aliens shooting random people for no reason, junkies laying about the place, etc. I couldn't believe a city or its residents would put up with all the crap, literally. How can real estate prices be so high if that is what the city is really like? Bizarre.

[aldousburbank]

I don't want to hear about Nordstroms, or some undiplomatic comment he makes.  Let me know when he bypasses the Senate and installs an illegal arms-for-hostages type ''treaty'' with an enemy like Iran, or sets up an unsecure server full of classified information in his barn, or runs a pay-for-play ''charitable foundation'', or his appointees lie about something like Benghazi in a Congressional hearing while under oath.

Or runs guns to Mexican cartels.

[Meister_000]

You either weren't there, weren't paying attention, are intentionally lying, or are senile.

Coma.

[aldousburbank]

I read some article in a "mainstream" paper about how bad SF has become- homeless people crapping in broad daylight, homeless camps, light-posts falling over due to having been pissed on so many times, illegal aliens shooting random people for no reason, junkies laying about the place, etc. I couldn't believe a city or its residents would put up with all the crap, literally. How can real estate prices be so high if that is what the city is really like? Bizarre.

[Meister_000]

I read some article in a "mainstream" paper about how bad SF has become- homeless people crapping in broad daylight, homeless camps, light-posts falling over due to having been pissed on so many times, illegal aliens shooting random people for no reason, junkies laying about the place, etc. I couldn't believe a city or its residents would put up with all the crap, literally. How can real estate prices be so high if that is what the city is really like? Bizarre.

Oy.The only truth to that is the homeless (i.e. affordable housing) problem. But that's all up and down the west coast, every major city (the homeless crisis), Google to verify. The difference is SF's tourist industry, hence the visibility and "shock" of sight-seers. It is shockingly bad, but not at all exclusive to SF.

[PB the Deplorable]

They also had it pointed out that as it stood, the EO wasn't valid. Less so when the on/off yes to Green cards/no to Green cards debacle was highlighted...

I don't think you quite get the whole separation of powers thing.

Only the Congress has standing to challenge an Executive Order regarding national security, and only the Supreme court can rule it invalid.  To my knowledge the Congress wasn't party to the case, so that should have been the end of it.  Even if a lower court were to rule against it, a reversal can only be implemented after a Supreme Court ruling.  Not the district court. 

How can it possibly be that one of the district courts can overturn a presidential EO on national security?

The same applies to an Executive Order regarding immigration.  In my opinion, a non-US citizen outside the country does not have standing - again, only the Congress would have standing.  If the Supreme Court ruled otherwise, I'm open to hearing their reasoning, but the ruling of a lesser court would have no practical impact as they don't have jurisdiction.

[PB the Deplorable]

Coma.

That would explain it.

[PB the Deplorable]

I read some article in a "mainstream" paper about how bad SF has become- homeless people crapping in broad daylight, homeless camps, light-posts falling over due to having been pissed on so many times, illegal aliens shooting random people for no reason, junkies laying about the place, etc. I couldn't believe a city or its residents would put up with all the crap, literally. How can real estate prices be so high if that is what the city is really like? Bizarre.

Well, Meister lived their all these years and she seems fairly typical.  Which should explain it.

Here she is now to tell us none of that is true:

[PB the Deplorable]

This is going to be huge!   It'll make the Alger Hiss-Whitaker Chambers thing look like a speeding violation.   It shows members of Congress and staff are colossally incompetent or are traitors.  They should immediately pull the clearances of all involved pending investigation.  These IT guys were paid 160K plus a year.  How many American lives were lost because these three Muslim brothers went fishing in Democrat computer accounts?

Well, it would be, except the Democrat Fake News Media will bury it and ignore it. 

It won't have ''legs'' the way, say, an Ivanka / Nordstroms story would.

[Jackstar]

white supremacists who commit atrocities

[Meister_000]

Something's up -- presumably about North Korea:
"🚨BREAKING from Mar-a-Lago: POTUS @realDonaldTrump & Prime Minister @AbeShinzo will be delivering a joint statement at approx. 10:30pmE."

[Jackstar]

Something's up [...] delivering a joint statement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident

[Meister_000]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush_vomiting_incident

God, Bush would be a relief, a blessing, at this point.

[Meister_000]

Something's up -- presumably about North Korea:
"🚨BREAKING from Mar-a-Lago: POTUS @realDonaldTrump & Prime Minister @AbeShinzo will be delivering a joint statement at approx. 10:30pmE."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/10/joint-statement-president-donald-j-trump-and-prime-minister-shinzo-abe

https://youtu.be/wvZhDSJ2yOg