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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 04:47:30 PM
Okay let's deal with your obsession with Bannon.  He's your father who went out for a pack of smokes when you were 2 and never came back, right?

Bannon looks like he might be related to Christopher Hitchens who happened to be a personal hero of mine even though I disagreed with him about religious issues.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
Bannon looks like he might be related to Christopher Hitchens who happened to be a personal hero of mine even though I disagreed with him about religious issues.

For sure! The world could use some more Hitch-slapping.  :)

Kidnostad3

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
Bannon looks like he might be related to Christopher Hitchens who happened to be a personal hero of mine even though I disagreed with him about religious issues.

I was am fan of Hitchens also.  Great mind.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 04:43:14 PM
What are you not getting?  Trump is rescinding that order because of the green card and visa issue.  The 9th could have merely struck down that part of the order so green card and visa holders would not be affected. 

No they couldn't. They weren't allowed to alter it, only judge on what was presented. The WH presented the EO in its entirety wth later amendments they believed (wrongly) were valid.

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They didn't do that because they have an ideological problem with Trump.

Yeah, because he thinks the constitution doesn't apply to him. Not ideologcal. Its funny, how the Reps get all misty eyed about it, but its so inconvenient right now!

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  Well guess what, Trump is basically rewriting the EO with exceptions for green card and visa holders.

Yeah; which Bannon should have done at the beggining. Lol. Just incompetent.

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  The rest of the order will basically be the same.  Trump has the authority to do this.  Trump's new order will hold up against court scrutiny in the long term.  The left doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Oh? The Dems haven't complained about the vetting that refugees have to go through (up to four years currently), so what is your point? Trump is full of blowhard.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 10, 2017, 04:51:25 PM
For sure! The world could use some more Hitch-slapping.  :)

I loved reading Hitchens and hearing him talk on shows.  Simply a superb elocutionist.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 04:53:10 PM
I loved reading Hitchens and hearing him talk on shows.  Simply a superb elocutionist.

Yeah, he talked good too.

Meister_000

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
. . .The only thing questionable about the EO was the failure to address Visa and Green Card holders.

Let's say that's true, that that was the only problem (which I'm not yet conceeding, but let's just say). Isn't/wasn't that enough? And what about all the human consequences, upheavels, nation-wide unrest (which could easily have gotten much worse)? And who was it who insisted that these things were wrong and ensured that they must be correct? The "Lefties" of course. Trump showed no concern here for either Law OR Order. Ironic, that, huh.

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 04:52:35 PM
No they couldn't. They weren't allowed to alter it, only judge on what was presented. The WH presented the EO in its entirety wth later amendments they believed (wrongly) were valid.


That is not what I heard from law experts on TV last night but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because I'm a nice guy.  :D

Doesn't really matter anyway, the EO will be rewritten.  Do I think Trump and friends did a poor job on the original EO?  Yes, I do but you have to remember he didn't have an attorney general to advise him on the EO.  You can blame that on the Democrats for stalling the nomination.  Trump has a learning curve  and I'm sure he'll do better as he gets more comfortable in the office.  Maybe I'll be wrong about that but I like to be optimistic.


Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 04:58:59 PM
Let's say that's true, that that was the only problem (which I'm not yet conceeding, but let's just say). Isn't/wasn't that enough? And what about all the human consequences, upheavels, nation-wide unrest (which could easily have gotten much worse)? And who was it who insisted that these things were wrong and ensured that they must be correct? The "Lefties" of course. Trump showed no concern here for either Law OR Order. Ironic, that, huh.

What human consequences, upheavals and nation-wide unrest are you talking about?  Please elaborate.  We are talking a delay of a few months, nothing more.  Be reasonable.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 04:58:59 PM
Let's say that's true, that that was the only problem (which I'm not yet conceeding, but let's just say). Isn't/wasn't that enough? And what about all the human consequences, upheavels, nation-wide unrest (which could easily have gotten much worse)? And who was it who insisted that these things were wrong and ensured that they must be correct? The "Lefties" of course. Trump showed no concern here for either Law OR Order. Ironic, that, huh.

The lefties would have rioted because it was Tuesday.  Please don't ascribe any sort of thought process to the left wing.  It's all visceral hatred. 

Meister_000

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 05:03:13 PM
What human consequences, upheavals and nation-wide unrest are you talking about?  Please elaborate.  We are talking a delay of a few months, nothing more.  Be reasonable.
Google it for Christ's sakes. Go back over your (or a better than your) twitter timeline feed from last weekend.

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 05:06:10 PM
Google it for Christ's sakes. Go back over your (or a better than your) twitter timeline feed from last weekend.

Are you talking about the uneducated idiots on the left who spazz out whenever Trump does something?  Give me a break.  They are a bunch of sheep who can't think for themselves.  Trump should do nothing to accommodate those idiots.  Best to just ignore them.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 04:47:30 PM
Okay let's deal with your obsession with Bannon.  He's your father who went out for a pack of smokes when you were 2 and never came back, right?

Okay, Bannon reminds you of your second grade teacher who made you wear a dunce cap for eating crayons right?  Am I getting warmer?

WildCard

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 09, 2017, 04:46:18 AM
Take a look at my tightly written readable post

Got any more pics of your mom?

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 05:06:10 PM
Google it for Christ's sakes. Go back over your (or a better than your) twitter timeline feed from last weekend.

Listen, I've gotta know, are you male or female because the answer will influence our responses to your bullshit. 





Kidnostad3

Quote from: WildCard on February 10, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
Got any more pics of your mom?

You did notice I was white didn't you.  That is why I posted the picture. 

Do you have any pictures of your mother naked?  If you don't I can sell you some.

aldousburbank

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Are you talking about the uneducated idiots on the left who spazz out whenever Trump does something?

To be fair, many of the idiots are "educated", which gives them an extra measure of deplor(dis)ability.



Meister_000

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 05:04:40 PM
The lefties would have rioted because it was Tuesday.  Please don't ascribe any sort of thought process to the left wing.  It's all visceral hatred.

Again, your deranged 180° twisted projections and delusional self-flatterings. Falseworlder's syndrome.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 05:30:34 PM
Again, your deranged 180° twisted projections and delusional self-flatterings. Falseworlder's syndrome.


Stop trying to butter me up and answer the question:  Are you male, female or indifferent?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 06:05:55 PM

Stop trying to butter me up and answer the question:  Are you male, female or indifferent?

Pronouns, pronouns...so many to choose from these days.  :D

Jackstar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 06:05:55 PM
Stop trying to butter me up and answer the question:  Are you male, female or indifferent?

It's a trick. Get a mohel.


Jackstar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
I was am fan of Hitchens also.  Great mind.


Note that to properly respect him, we have to continue to pretend that he no longer exists.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 06:05:55 PM

Stop trying to butter me up and answer the question:  Are you male, female or indifferent?

https://youtu.be/CQFEY9RIRJA

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 10, 2017, 06:25:52 PM

Note that to properly respect him, we have to continue to pretend that he no longer exists.

Christopher lives!

https://youtu.be/Mchag1zto2U

Jackstar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Christopher lives!

He says, keep it down--he's nursing one Hell of a hangover, and is terribly embarrassed.

I tried to tell him, get over it, still superior to American H.S. or both Clinton presidencies combined, and he's having none of it. I think he's just out of Scotch.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 10, 2017, 06:43:57 PM
He says, keep it down--he's nursing one Hell of a hangover, and is terribly embarrassed.

I tried to tell him, get over it, still superior to American H.S. or both Clinton presidencies combined, and he's having none of it. I think he's just out of Scotch.

Get him some Glenfiddich and it's all good.

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