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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

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albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on February 10, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
Not in the same way. Except Roosevelt with the internment camps
I think Democrat Roosevelt's, and earlier Democrat Wilson's, policies of internment wasn't as bad as the seizure of so much property and real estate that was never returned. Our camps weren't that bad, compared to say the English or German ones, and people were released but businesses, land, etc often sold off to others and not returned to them.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-confiscated-half-billion-dollars-private-property-during-wwi-180952144/
http://fear.org/RMillerJ-A.html

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on February 10, 2017, 02:06:14 PM
I wish, but I'm doomed to eternally walk the earth dragging the chains I forged in life because I didn't keep Christmas in my heart and completely forgot that mankind was my business while I lived. Don't make the same mistake, because it's no picnic, especially when people think you're just a hallucination caused by an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, or a crumb of cheese.

I appreciate the warning but it comes too late.  I no doubt am destined to become a dumb spook too but I get my own territory don't I?

Jackstar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 02:00:23 PM
He doesn't even know he's dead and is supposed to walk towards the light.

It's a trick. He's playing fetch with my axe.

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 11:39:54 AM
After researching this for over an hour I think it probably is a fake account. I did actually give it a cursory check before posting it, and it looked real enough, and still does even now hours later.  I won't say just now how/why/what makes me suspect it's authenticity (now) because I'm certain you were just parroting/benefiting-from some elses (unexplained) posted suspicion rather than figuring-out for yourself exactly if, how, why, and what, the best red-flag might be.

One, the name isn't spelled correctly.  It is Sessions, not Session.  Red flag there.

Second, one of the tweets he refers to black people as "colored people".

Third, he is tweeting to Shaun King.  Why the fuck would Jeff Sessions pay any attention to a racial con man like Shaun King?

Jackstar

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on February 10, 2017, 02:42:38 PM
Why the fuck would Jeff Sessions pay any attention to a racial con man like Shaun King?


Impressive start. One question leads inexorably to another. How are you with salt?

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 11:39:54 AM
After researching this for over an hour I think it probably is a fake account.

You are literally a fucking retard if you spent over an hour "researching" this.

Holy fuck.

JesusJuice

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 11:39:54 AM
After researching this for over an hour I think it probably is a fake account. I did actually give it a cursory check before posting it, and it looked real enough, and still does even now hours later.  I won't say just now how/why/what makes me suspect it's authenticity (now) because I'm certain you were just parroting/benefiting-from some elses (unexplained) posted suspicion rather than figuring-out for yourself exactly if, how, why, and what, the best red-flag might be.


It took you over an hour to notice that his account didn't have a little blue check mark?

Quote from: (((The King of Kings))) on February 10, 2017, 02:44:09 PM
You are literally a fucking retard if you spent over an hour "researching" this.

Holy fuck.

Typical snowflake.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 10, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
Typical snowflake.

How long do you think it will take her to research "snowflake?"

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 10, 2017, 01:59:04 PM
They based their opinion on hearsay and campaign rhetoric. Enjoy the victory. It'll be short-lived.  ;)

Actually no: They based their judgement on several things, that largely pointed to the WH (aka Bannon) not doing their homework, and making elementary mistakes. Two notable ones: Firstly, the 'adendem' that apparently gave green card holders entry to the USA, after the EO was issued. The EO stood at the time, so couldn't be countermanded, unless by another revised EO. Secondly, the assertion by Trump (who else?) that he was somehow not bound by the law. The judges rightfully handed the WH play actors their asses on a plate, with the unsaid suggestion they go away, learn what to do, and start again.

Oh, and Trump is making his son in law an ambassador. Amply qualified. No doubt he can case out various countries for ol Don  to expand the empire.  :D

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 02:49:56 PM
Actually no: They based their judgement on several things, that largely pointed to the WH (aka Bannon) not doing their homework, and making elementary mistakes. Two notable ones: Firstly, the 'adendem' that apparently gave green card holders entry to the USA, after the EO was issued. The EO stood at the time, so couldn't be countermanded, unless by another revised EO. Secondly, the assertion by Trump (who else?) that he was somehow not bound by the law. The judges rightfully handed the WH play actors their asses on a plate, with the unsaid suggestion they go away, learn what to do, and start again.

Oh, and Trump is making his son in law an ambassador. Amply qualified. No doubt he can case out various countries for ol Don  to expand the empire.  :D

I'll go along with you on the green card and visa business.  The order could have been written better and it now will be.  The court could have simply struck down that part of the order and let the rest stand though.

John Adams appointed his son, John Quincy Adams as Minister to Russia during his term as president.  Big fucking deal.  You'll have to do better, pud.

Jackstar

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 02:49:56 PM
They based their judgement on several things


You're in their heads. You're a TITAN.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 02:49:56 PM
Actually no: They based their judgement on several things, that largely pointed to the WH (aka Bannon) not doing their homework, and making elementary mistakes. Two notable ones: Firstly, the 'adendem' that apparently gave green card holders entry to the USA, after the EO was issued. The EO stood at the time, so couldn't be countermanded, unless by another revised EO. Secondly, the assertion by Trump (who else?) that he was somehow not bound by the law. The judges rightfully handed the WH play actors their asses on a plate, with the unsaid suggestion they go away, learn what to do, and start again.

Oh, and Trump is making his son in law an ambassador. Amply qualified. No doubt he can case out various countries for ol Don  to expand the empire.  :D

A mere technicality. He didn't even have his AG in place and we know the DOJ was staffed with Democratic insiders going back to the Clinton administration.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on February 10, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
I think Democrat Roosevelt's, and earlier Democrat Wilson's, policies of internment wasn't as bad as the seizure of so much property and real estate that was never returned. Our camps weren't that bad, compared to say the English or German ones, and people were released but businesses, land, etc often sold off to others and not returned to them.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-confiscated-half-billion-dollars-private-property-during-wwi-180952144/
http://fear.org/RMillerJ-A.html

I think there should also be a provision to intern seditious leftists and other miscreants and ne'er do wells that piss us off.  Just sayin'

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 10, 2017, 03:05:48 PM
we know the DOJ was staffed with Democratic insiders accomplices to murder going back to the Clinton Johnson administration.


Say it with me, kids--which John's son?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 10, 2017, 03:05:48 PM
A mere technicality. He didn't even have his AG in place and we know the DOJ was staffed with Democratic insiders going back to the Clinton administration.

An EO and Trump pretty much saying the law doesn't apply to him;  'a mere technicality', lol.  ;D Unfortunately for Trump, courts tend to deal with technicalities. He clearly thinks everyone else should operate with serious stuff like the overly drunk herd of elephants, his team resemble when dealing with things.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 03:13:24 PM
An EO and Trump pretty much saying the law doesn't apply to him;  'a mere technicality', lol.  ;D

The EO didn't say that. Trump did and he's right. This right is afforded him according to our constitution. Judges just can't willy nilly decide that they don't agree with certain sections of the constitution just because they find them personally distasteful or politically inconvenient. Oh wait! They just did.  ::) :D

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 02:49:56 PM


Oh, and Trump is making his son in law an ambassador. Amply qualified. No doubt he can case out various countries for ol Don  to expand the empire.  :D

Apparently you are not aware that ambassadorial appointments are bought through large contributions to presidential campaigns and/or the Clinton Foundation.  Did you not see Hilliary's emails. 


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 10, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
The EO didn't say that. Trump did and he's right. This right is afforded him according to our constitution. Judges just can't willy nilly decide that they don't agree with certain sections of the constitution just because they find them personally distasteful or politically inconvenient. Oh wait! They just did.  ::) :D

You.  Are.  So.  Full.  Of.  Shit.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
Apparently you are not aware that ambassadorial appointments are bought through large contributions to presidential campaigns and/or the Clinton Foundation.  Did you not see Hilliary's emails.

Hey, thats how the education sec got elected natch!  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 03:20:16 PM
You.  Are.  So.  Full.  Of.  Shit.

Be. Specific. You. Stupid. Shithead.  :D

Meister_000

Quote from: TigerLily on February 10, 2017, 01:57:38 PM
Acccording to the Federal Judiciary he isn't (following the law)

What astonishes me is that Trump's fan-boys here actually believe _they_ know more about Law than the Federal Judges do -- let alone all the other informed and educated observers, lawyers, scholars, reporters in the U.S. do!  If the Courts had "no authority" to challenge Trump on this matter THEY WOULDN'T/COULDN'T have done so -- end of story! NO-ONE would have paid them any mind, let alone "obeyed" them and their ruling (however temporary a Stay is was/is). ffs!  Do you honestly believe that the 9th Circuit were ignorant-of/unawares-of their "authority" with regard to or even the existence of "The Code" you'all have been waving around here all day ["section (f): 8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President"]?!?   Really?!?  If the matter and content of Trumps EO were "automatically" off-limits and out-of-bounds you don't think they, the Federal Judges, wouldn't have know that?  Really?!?  One of you, the Fed Judges or Trump's fan boys are REALLY stupid -- and it won't surprise you to learn which of those two I'll (automatically) give the benefit-of-doubt to.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 03:21:09 PM
Hey, thats how the education sec got elected natch!  ;)

Yeah that's right, she paid big bucks to oversee the decommissioning of the Department of Education.  Money well spent if you ask me.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 10, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
Be. Specific. You. Stupid. Shithead.  :D


The EO is a technicality. Him saying that he wasn't subject to the law is a technicality. What are you struggling with?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on February 10, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
Yeah that's right, she paid big bucks to oversee the decommissioning of the Department of Education.  Money well spent if you ask me.

Get back in four years and let us know if you still think so.  :)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 03:23:51 PM
What astonishes me is that Trump's fan-boys here actually believe _they_ know more about Law than the Federal Judges do -- let alone all the other informed and educated observers, lawyers, scholars, reporters in the U.S. do!  If the Courts had "no authority" to challenge Trump on this matter THEY WOULDN'T/COULDN'T have done so -- end of story! NO-ONE would have paid them any mind, let alone "obeyed" them and their ruling (however temporary a Stay is was/is). ffs!  Do you honestly believe that the 9th Circuit were ignorant-of/unawares-of their "authority" with regard to or even the existence of "The Code" you'all have been waving around here all day ["section (f): 8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President"]?!?   Really?!?  If the matter and content of Trumps were EO was "automatically" off-limits and out-of-bounds you don't think they, the Federal Judges, would have know that?  Really?!?  One of you, the Fed Judges or Trump's fan boys are REALLY stupid -- and it won't surprise you to learn which of those two I'll (automatically) give the benefit-of-doubt to.

The prevailing legal opinion is that they either obviously didn't (not likely) or just did it anyway, to be obstructionist. Ultimately, Trump will get his way here because it's the power we gave him when we elected him.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on February 10, 2017, 03:23:51 PM
here actually believe _they_ know more about Law...

Can anyone tell me why she uses an underscore to connect words like that?   Is it like a nervous tic or something?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 03:24:52 PM

The EO is a technicality. Him saying that he wasn't subject to the law is a technicality. What are you struggling with?

He never said he wasn't subject to the law, only that as president he has the authority to do this without getting permission from the judges first.  ::)

Meister_000

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 10, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
The prevailing legal opinion is that they either obviously didn't (not likely) or just did it anyway, to be obstructionist. Ultimately, Trump will get his way here because it's the power we gave him when we elected him.

"The prevailing legal opinion" on what Planet?

Quote from: Got to love an Aston on February 10, 2017, 03:20:16 PM
You.  Are.  So.  Full.  Of.  Shit.

Sometimes, I give MD hell but he is dead right on this matter.  The judiciary needs to follow the US code as much as Trump does.  The problem is, they rarely do especially the 9th circus.

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