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Coronavirus 2020

Started by MV/Liberace!, January 23, 2020, 09:29:38 PM

aldousburbank

I’m no statistician or epidemiologist but even a fucking hippie can figure this shit out. If you base the level of freedom a people are allowed to have on incomplete or inconclusive statistics then you are likely to justify perfect enslavement in service of imperfect data.

Included in most corona reports shoveled into our feed trough you have get two maybe three data points.

Existing cases
Number of deaths
And possibly, number of recoveries.

Here is what needs to be reported in order to adjust quarantine restrictions appropriately and effectively.

Number of confirmed positive cases in past 3 weeks.
Number of confirmed positive cases total
Number of confirmed dead daily.
Number of confirmed dead total.
And most importantly-
Number of tests given AND number of residents total.

This data needs to be pooled on a county by county basis to form regional and national emergency levels and containment policies. Ultimately the missing factor would be the number of residents in each county that test positive for CV antibodies but these tests are still in development and from what I understand not yet readily available.
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Dr. MD MD

I just heard a great caller on Rush who said something that reminded me of my back and forth with kidnostad lately. He said, I’m not mad at the left because what they’ve been doing has been obvious for decades now. I’m angry with our side who see it, continute to let it happen and do absolutely nothing about it. Well, in kid’s case nothing but call any non-globalist a racist.

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 31, 2020, 10:51:55 AM
I’m no statistician or epidemiologist but even a fucking hippie can figure this shit out. If you base the level of freedom a people are allowed to have on incomplete or inconclusive statistics then you are likely to justify perfect enslavement in service of imperfect data.

Included in most corona reports shoveled into our feed trough you have get two maybe three data points.

Existing cases
Number of deaths
And possibly, number of recoveries.

Here is what needs to be reported in order to adjust quarantine restrictions appropriately and effectively.

Number of confirmed positive cases in past 3 weeks.
Number of confirmed positive cases total
Number of confirmed dead daily.
Number of confirmed dead total.
And most importantly-
Number of tests given AND number of residents total.

This data needs to be pooled on a county by county basis to form regional and national emergency levels and containment policies. Ultimately the missing factor would be the number of residents in each county that test positive for CV antibodies but these tests are still in development and from what I understand not yet readily available.
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Not much to discuss Bro.  I think you've grabbed the thing by the balls straight away.  I'd like to see some concrete data on the retests of individuals.   One heard tales of people being tested multiple times  with erratic results.  That was early on in China.  How are these vaunted U.S. developed tests doing?

Kidnostad3

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 31, 2020, 10:51:55 AM
I’m no statistician or epidemiologist but even a fucking hippie can figure this shit out. If you base the level of freedom a people are allowed to have on incomplete or inconclusive statistics then you are likely to justify perfect enslavement in service of imperfect data.

Included in most corona reports shoveled into our feed trough you have get two maybe three data points.

Existing cases
Number of deaths
And possibly, number of recoveries.

Here is what needs to be reported in order to adjust quarantine restrictions appropriately and effectively.

Number of confirmed positive cases in past 3 weeks.
Number of confirmed positive cases total
Number of confirmed dead daily.
Number of confirmed dead total.
And most importantly-
Number of tests given AND number of residents total.

This data needs to be pooled on a county by county basis to form regional and national emergency levels and containment policies. Ultimately the missing factor would be the number of residents in each county that test positive for CV antibodies but these tests are still in development and from what I understand not yet readily available.
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You may not realize it but what you’ve laid out is Statistical Analysis 101.  Did you learn that in hippie school? 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 31, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
You may not realize it but what you’ve laid out is Statistical Analysis 101.  Did you learn that in hippie school?

This post manages to be both condescending and obsequious at once. Touche!

aldousburbank

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 31, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
You may not realize it but what you’ve laid out is Statistical Analysis 101.  Did you learn that in hippie school?


Jojo

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on January 25, 2020, 07:38:56 AM
Here is the paper that has caused the alarm.  They don't describe how their model works really and who knows how accurate the data being plugged into it is but the conclusions are alarming.   Figure 3 is where the action is at.   I'm getting off the flu doom train now.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v1.full.pdf+html
How do I get to the figure tables

Novel coronas have been mutating a long time. Here's a 2003 article about it being in humans.

Quote from: Jojo on March 31, 2020, 12:08:01 PM
How do I get to the figure tables

Novel coronas have been mutating a long time. Here's a 2003 article about it being in humans.

There is a little "Preview PDF" button in there.   Post from January!  Seems like 10 years ago now.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on March 31, 2020, 12:15:27 PM
There is a little "Preview PDF" button in there.   Post from January!  Seems like 10 years ago now.

The Quickening. ;)


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 31, 2020, 11:55:38 AM
This post manages to be both condescending and obsequious at once. Touche!

You never fail to confirm the worst that is said about.  Got a job yet? 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 31, 2020, 12:28:48 PM
You never fail to confirm the worst that is said about.  Got a job yet?

Ah, back to ad hominem again cuz you got nothing and the truth hurts. :D


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 31, 2020, 12:31:29 PM
Ah, back to ad hominem again cuz you got nothing and the truth hurts. :D




The truth is that you are an angry mean spirited little shit who butts into other people’s conversations to get attention but has nothing to contribute beyond hackneyed invective that you’ve picked up on line. 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 31, 2020, 12:56:00 PM

The truth is that you are an angry mean spirited little shit who butts into other people’s conversations to get attention but has nothing to contribute beyond hackneyed invective that you’ve picked up on line.



It’s a public forum. Don’t post if you fear responses.

The truth about you is that you’re just a self-righteous, virtue-signalling, hypocrite boomer who has nothing to offer here except calling people you don’t agree with racist and other childish names. Just declare yourself a Democrat already!  :D

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 31, 2020, 01:04:03 PM


The truth about you is that you’re just a self-righteous, virtue-signalling, hypocrite boomer who has nothing to offer here except calling people you don’t agree with racists childish names. Just declare yourself a Democrat already! 

Nope, just you and Langley.  Are you telling me that Langley is not a racist. 



Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 31, 2020, 01:24:06 PM
Nope, just you and Langley.  Are you telling me that Langley is not a racist.

I’m not telling you anything, obviously. You’ve got it all figured out, Sherlock! Thanks for gracing our board!! ::)

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 31, 2020, 12:15:33 AM
You’re such a great person! My God, I really admire you.


whoozit

I think a touching of the dinks is needed here.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 31, 2020, 01:26:00 PM
I’m not telling you anything, obviously. You’ve got it all figured out, Sherlock! Thanks for gracing our board!! ::)

Sure you are. 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: whoozit on March 31, 2020, 01:33:09 PM
I think I feel a touching of the dinks coming on.

You and paladin...wishful thinking. ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on March 31, 2020, 01:33:53 PM
Sure you are.

OK, you’re a self-righteous hypocrite...but I doubt you’ll ever understand that so am I?



albrecht

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 31, 2020, 12:17:52 PM
The Quickening. ;)
Haha. Norry also has his version of it. But it is more muddled and confused when he explains his idea that time is accelerating. Especially as the dreaded "FEB" month approaches.


https://qz.com/1516804/physics-explains-why-time-passes-faster-as-you-age/

So our city government is buying/leasing-to-buy (not sure on details yet) the Crowne Plaza to host homeless with Corona-Chan or potentially with Corona-Chan. At the same time refuses to identify places/people who have been Corona-Chan confirmed because instead "we should treat every place and person as potentially infected."


27 feet!
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763852?resultClick=1
"Given various combinations of an individual patient’s physiology and environmental conditions, such as humidity and temperature, the gas cloud and its payload of pathogen-bearing droplets of all sizes can travel 23 to 27 feet (7-8 m)"

WOTR

Just got an email from one of my wholesalers. Bulk orders on PPE being placed. Delivery between April 15th (hand sanitizer) and April 27th (N-95 masks, hazmat suits, face shields and half mask respirators.)

If anybody is wondering, $8600 CAD will buy you a 1,000 liter tote of hand sanitizer. That should be about 250 gallons @ roughly $2.27 USD right now...

It looks like China is keeping up with demand just fine right now. Good thing that we have the efficient communists to keep us supplied.  8)

Quote from: WOTR on March 31, 2020, 03:56:06 PM
Just got an email from one of my wholesalers. Bulk orders on PPE being placed. Delivery between April 15th (hand sanitizer) and April 27th (N-95 masks, hazmat suits, face shields and half mask respirators.)

If anybody is wondering, $8600 CAD will buy you a 1,000 liter tote of hand sanitizer. That should be about 250 gallons @ roughly $2.27 USD right now...

It looks like China is keeping up with demand just fine right now. Good thing that we have the efficient communists to keep us supplied.  8)

Enjoy the masks

https://twitter.com/PhdParody/status/1244447950199234560
https://twitter.com/PhdParody/status/1244495317355106305

Not really sure what exactly is going on here but it looks awful.

https://twitter.com/PhdParody/status/1244605724543549440

albrecht

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on March 31, 2020, 04:25:57 PM
Not really sure what exactly is going on here but it looks awful.

[tweet]1244605724543549440[/tweet]
I wonder if shiva is abrogated in the time of a virus?

Quote from: albrecht on March 31, 2020, 04:29:00 PM
I wonder if shiva is abrogated in the time of a virus?

I don't know what that means but that didn't look like business as usual.


paladin1991

Quote from: WOTR on March 31, 2020, 03:56:06 PM
Just got an email from one of my wholesalers. Bulk orders on PPE being placed. Delivery between April 15th (hand sanitizer) and April 27th (N-95 masks, hazmat suits, face shields and half mask respirators.)

If anybody is wondering, $8600 CAD will buy you a 1,000 liter tote of hand sanitizer. That should be about 250 gallons @ roughly $2.27 USD right now...

It looks like China is keeping up with demand just fine right now. Good thing that we have the efficient communists to keep us supplied.  8)

https://youtu.be/E3IN2HZBZwY

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