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Coronavirus 2020

Started by MV/Liberace!, January 23, 2020, 09:29:38 PM


Dr. MD MD

I’m all for real science but now we’re being told that instead of our elected leaders we should all follow the words of unelected technocrats; experts in their fields, yes but who are people who also have political beliefs and biases and who will sometimes work as hired guns to attack other science they don’t agree with for various reason, as with Syngenta paying scientists to attack Hayes’ study that showed that their product caused birth defects in frogs and probably people as well. I fear that if this becomes the standard the nation will invariably move to the left and probably outright socialism cuz science.

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 25, 2020, 11:02:06 AM
I’m all for real science but now we’re being told that instead of our elected leaders we should all follow the words of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5HXQ1HFDgA


aldousburbank

You can socially distance some of the people some of the time. You can socially distance some of the people all of the time. But you can’t socially distance all of the people all of the time.

Jackstar

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 25, 2020, 12:14:03 PM
But you can’t socially distance all of the people all of the time.


aldousburbank

I’m no infectious disease expert but it seems to me that distinguishing corona infection from antibody presence is a critical factor in squelching the medical emergency which is creating social and financial catastrophe. There’s hardly a mention in the media of the subject, which means it’s probably important. Anyhoo...

https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-blood-test-antibodies.html
The current tests being used in the U.S. to diagnose infections with the new coronavirus disease, COVID-19, are different from antibody tests. The former look for the new coronavirus's genes in samples taken from people's noses and throats, which indicate that a person is actively infected with the virus, SARS-CoV-2. The latter look for antibodies that a person's immune system develops to fight the new coronavirus. Such antibodies stick around in a person's blood, so they can show if a person has been infected with COVID-19 in the past.

Antibody tests are important for a number of reasons. They can show what percentage of the population has ever been infected with the virus (even if the people aren't currently infected) â€" a key piece of information, given that many COVID-19 infections may be mild, and thus undiagnosed. By knowing how many individuals have had the virus, researchers can calculate a more accurate fatality rate and have a better idea of the percentages of cases that are mild versus severe.

Researchers could also use antibody tests to screen health care workers and identify those who are already immune to the virus, which would likely mean they could care for patients without the risk of being infected, the authors said.

Gd5150

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 25, 2020, 11:02:06 AM
I’m all for real science but now we’re being told that instead of our elected leaders we should all follow the words of unelected technocrats; experts in their fields, yes but who are people who also have political beliefs and biases and who will sometimes work as hired guns to attack other science they don’t agree with for various reason, as with Syngenta paying scientists to attack Hayes’ study that showed that their product caused birth defects in frogs and probably people as well. I fear that if this becomes the standard the nation will invariably move to the left and probably outright socialism cuz science.

Mainstream “Science” has been corrupted by the left and their globalist communism. One can be pro science and be against scientists. Carl Sagan is the perfect example of this. The original Cosmos was a great series. The history of science and study of the cosmos was inspiring and encouraged millions to pursue the sciences. His opinions on climate and politics were laughable. Constantly harping on the threat of nucYOUler war because as we all remember “Reagan wanted WW3”. Sagan single handedly started the global warming garbage. Citing Venus as his primary model, a planet who’s atmosphere is 90x as dense as Earths, and is made up of 96.5% co2. Earths atmosphere is .04% co2.

The communist left will never complete its takeover of science because in the end it’s evidence based. Not hypothetical dire predictions based.

Jackstar

Quote from: Gd5150 on March 25, 2020, 12:44:09 PM
Mainstream “Science” has been corrupted by the left and their globalist communism.




I found a book you'll like.

analog kid

^^ That's a lot of crazy right there.

SpaceMeowMaid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 25, 2020, 11:02:06 AM
I’m all for real science but now we’re being told that instead of our elected leaders we should all follow the words of unelected technocrats; experts in their fields, yes but who are people who also have political beliefs and biases and who will sometimes work as hired guns to attack other science they don’t agree with for various reason, as with Syngenta paying scientists to attack Hayes’ study that showed that their product caused birth defects in frogs and probably people as well. I fear that if this becomes the standard the nation will invariably move to the left and probably outright socialism cuz science.

This is a Big PROBLEM in my book too. Let's see how this 1984 simulation plays out though. I think we can "listen" without OBEYING> Do not consent. Take your measures as you normally would. Use this time to prepare for the Great Awakening. People are being forced to wake up. Now, I should add, that even the "elected officials" give me pause with their "advice" and opinions. They rarely do as they suggest others do, and they really are granted WAY TOO MUCH POWER OVER THE PEOPLE> Caveat: of course there are exceptions but they are few.

Jackstar

Quote from: aldousburbank on March 25, 2020, 12:35:35 PM
I’m no infectious disease expert but it seems to me that distinguishing corona infection from antibody presence is a critical factor in squelching the medical emergency

That's precisely why antibody tests are not being used. If the populace were to discover that the non-lethal strain has been deliberately allowed to spread since January, there would be a planet-surface-wide freak-out the likes of which can barely be imagined.


Quote from: aldousburbank on March 25, 2020, 12:35:35 PM
There’s hardly a mention in the media of the subject, which means it’s probably important.

Chorus is coming, build to a crescendo.


SpaceMeowMaid

Quote from: Jackstar on March 25, 2020, 12:54:25 PM
That's precisely why antibody tests are not being used. If the populace were to discover that the non-lethal strain has been deliberately allowed to spread since January, there would be a planet-surface-wide freak-out the likes of which can barely be imagined.


Chorus is coming, build to a crescendo.

The Batman :)


Juan

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 25, 2020, 11:02:06 AM
I’m all for real science but now we’re being told that instead of our elected leaders we should all follow the words of unelected technocrats; experts in their fields, yes but who are people who also have political beliefs and biases and who will sometimes work as hired guns to attack other science they don’t agree with for various reason, as with Syngenta paying scientists to attack Hayes’ study that showed that their product caused birth defects in frogs and probably people as well. I fear that if this becomes the standard the nation will invariably move to the left and probably outright socialism cuz science.
Welcome to progressivism.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Juan on March 25, 2020, 01:29:43 PM
Welcome to progressivism, where the most nightmarish scenarios for humanity can be justified.

FIFY ;)




SpaceMeowMaid

Quote from: pate on March 25, 2020, 07:40:09 AM
I am screwed.

While finishing my regular "morning constitutional" I used up the last half-roll of toilet paper from the pallet of TP I bought last week.  And, while trying to "clear the chamber" a clog seems to have developed that the plunger will not clear, I think the line might be fouled.  So hopefully, after I get past the 14 military checkpoints between myself and CostCo, get through the 100+ person line to share the store with 9 other lucky shoppers there is still a pallet of TP left, and hopefully a sewer snake.  This clog seems like it is a deep one...

Hmm, maybe I need another 2000lbs of dry oatmeal too.  I seem to be about 3/4 of the way through the 1000lbs I got last Tuesday, as well...

I am getting a bit low on the "emergency stores" budget, did I see someone mention that I can expect a $12,000 check soon?  That would really help get my "emergency stores" to a level that I am comfortable with, maybe I will renew my Netflix account too.  Have to have something to watch while I digest my mac&cheez and oats, wonder if there is any Gas-X left in the pharmacy section at CostCo?

If I leave now (9:30am local) I should be back from my "emergency supply" run by 7pm at the earliest.

-p


Jeez. Can I help you out if you are unable to acquire the shit tickets? I have a lot of TP, and since I live with 2 dudes I don't go through a lot. If you are anywhere near North Seattle/ Shoreline I could probably pass you some TP at the Costco. If not I wish you the best and appreciate your insights.

SpaceMeowMaid

Quote from: Jojo on March 24, 2020, 06:44:08 PM
This is huge planting season.  And we are semi-quarantined and many store shelves are bare.  Yet no one seems to recommend victory gardens.

I recommend Victory Gardens. In fact I am in process now.

Dr. MD MD

Just got back from a grocery run. The cashiers at the store I went to were getting a little too into enforcing their distancing requirements. It didn’t help that they literally looked like Ralph Steadman drawings and had the personality to boot. Let the Nazi flow! ::)

P.S. It was also hard to find zinc supplements at a reasonable price. One place was sold out completely and the other place wanted too much but even they only had one brand left.


aldousburbank

#coronadidnotkillweinstein

Too soon?

Dr. MD MD

President Trump: “Easter’s our timeline. What a beautiful timeline.” :)

OMG   :o  Don't click if you have a shred of decency in your soul...but damn.  Why is stuff always on fire and/or exploding in the P.R.C.?

https://twitter.com/blue500000/status/1242668048978513922

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on March 25, 2020, 03:46:15 PM
OMG   :o  Don't click if you have a shred of decency in your soul...but damn.  Why is stuff always on fire and exploding in the P.R.C.?

https://twitter.com/blue500000/status/1242668048978513922

Weird. The driver looked more on fire than the car. I wonder how that happened? ???

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on March 25, 2020, 03:56:11 PM
Weird. The driver looked more on fire than the car. I wonder how that happened? ???

Communism.


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