The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Why does it even need to be inside of a computer? Couldn't our universe simply be a holographic projection of a 2-D universe?

There we go - - - an open system

[Sandra Kristen]

I like how Richard is getting snappy with this guest.

[trostol]

Minecraft, dude.

You need to stay current.

i was gonna say CoD

[Juan Cena]

Yikes, that's not what Kurzweil claims. Consciousness becomes the machine, not the other way around.

Kurzweil? I was talking about Ellis.

[SciFiAuthor]

Why does it even need to be inside of a computer? Couldn't our universe simply be a holographic projection of a 2-D universe?

Well that's sticky. There is a train of thought that the universe itself can be used as a computer through quantum mechanics. It certainly stores information, which apparently cannot ever be destroyed. The speed of light for example can be expressed as the speed of information transfer. In other words, the universe may be able to compute itself, but how that relates to Bostrum's postulate no one knows. There has to be something generating it though, whether that's a planet-sized computer in some other parent universe or the universe somehow computing itself. 

[norland2424]

I like how Richard is getting snappy with this guest.

like bellboy said, the guest is hoagies bitch now

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Why does it even need to be inside of a computer? Couldn't our universe simply be a holographic projection of a 2-D universe?

Too complex.  You don't need any dimensions if everything is addressed according to its virtual position in a Planck scale matrix, in some sort of memory cache.  The transfer of information between individual memory addresses could be interpreted as the speed of light, and we would interpret that as dimension.

[trostol]

[TigerLily]

“Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was myself. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.”

― Zhuangzi, at least a hundred years ago

I know I am a butterfly

[SciFiAuthor]

Too complex.  You don't need any dimensions if everything is addressed according to its virtual position in a Planck scale matrix, in some sort of memory cache.  The transfer of information between individual memory addresses could be interpreted as the speed of light, and we would interpret that as dimension.

Quit dumbing it down! <g>

[ArJuna]

Minecraft, dude.

You need to stay current.

OK, how do YOU know what they play on this hypothetical alien planet? 

[BellBoy]

like bellboy said, the guest is hoagies bitch now

now, and forever...

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Well that's sticky. There is a train of thought that the universe itself can be used as a computer through quantum mechanics. It certainly stores information, which apparently cannot ever be destroyed. The speed of light for example can be expressed as the speed of information transfer. In other words, the universe may be able to compute itself, but how that relates to Bostrum's postulate no one knows. There has to be something generating it though, whether that's a planet-sized computer in some other parent universe or the universe somehow computing itself. 

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Quit dumbing it down! <g>

Lol sorry.  I thought I came up with that idea.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I know I am a butterfly

     

[Barfly]

Whats up everybody, a saw Arts show was a rerun, i have been having internet issues as well tonight, im sure i didn't miss anything WTF is RCH talking about?

[TigerLily]

Hoagie sounds defensive. Has he ever published  a book?

[norland2424]

Whats up everybody, a saw Arts show was a rerun, i have been having internet issues as well tonight, im sure i didn't miss anything WTF is RCH talking about?

not sure but he keeps punking the guest so its funny to me

[trostol]

[norland2424]

Hoagie sounds defensive. Has he ever published  a book?

hoagie has a few books, i think even a book on obama 

[Sandra Kristen]

[Barfly]

not sure but he keeps punking the guest so its funny to me

Let me strap in for the ride

[Manx]

Whats up everybody, a saw Arts show was a rerun, i have been having internet issues as well tonight, im sure i didn't miss anything WTF is RCH talking about?

Its the kind of thing you talk about when you're high and you just watched the matrix. You talk about whether you're in a matrix now and then exchange stories of something scientific you once heard second or third hand as best as you can remember it and blow eachother's minds.

Except they're not high, so I DONT KNOW

[SciFiAuthor]

Lol sorry.  I thought I came up with that idea.

Don't feel bad, I didn't come up with it either. The whole thing may actually be scientifically testable.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/11/universe-computer-simulation

[Barfly]

Hoagie sounds defensive. Has he ever published  a book?

When Hoagie is defensive= good show

[trostol]

Don't feel bad, I didn't come up with it either. The whole thing may actually be scientifically testable.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/11/universe-computer-simulation

heard a lot about this...a buddy on FB swears by it lol

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Whats up everybody, a saw Arts show was a rerun, i have been having internet issues as well tonight, im sure i didn't miss anything WTF is RCH talking about?

Braaps Barfly
The net has been sporadic for the last 3 weeks for me. 

In a nutshell:
He's presenting a new view of what the universe is.

[TigerLily]

Girlfriend. I'm having a flashback

[trostol]

mmmm this guy just made bagels on this show ...i want one now

[norland2424]

mmmm this guy just made bagels on this show ...i want one now

rick steves??