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Asteroid 2015HM10

Started by Stellar, June 04, 2015, 11:14:31 PM

eddie dean

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on June 08, 2015, 03:45:42 PM
Escape velocity is only for something on the surface of the Earth.  At the surface of the Earth, escape velocity to get infinitely far from the Earth is your stated 25 000 mph.  Orbital speed at the height of the space station (250 miles) is about 17 000 miles per hour.  Orbital speed of the moon is only 2 300 miles per hour.  The Moon has not landed on Washington DC. 

Orbital speed at 82 000 miles would only be about 3 900 miles per hour by the relation v=sqrt(GM/r).  Anything faster would be flung out to a higher orbit, and anything as fast as the asteroid would pass by mostly unaffected.  Also, if the asteroid closed to within a distance of 82 000 miles, Earth's gravity would speed it up by an additional 4 500 miles per hour by the relation v=sqrt(2(g1h1-g2h2)).  If the asteroid closed to the distance of the space station, the additional speed would be 24 000 miles per hour, nearly Earth's escape velocity all by itself (which is no coincidence... the asteroid was doing the opposite of escaping).  Add that to your original 18 500 miles per hour, except you can't just algebraically add them because neither of us know the vectors.  The Earth cannot capture this thing.  If it could we'd be surrounded by hundreds of asteroid sized moons.

In any case, there is no chance for the asteroid to get caught by Earth's gravity.  It would have to score a direct hit and even your numbers forbid that from happening.

Yay Science!

Stellar

Quote from: eddie dean on June 08, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Yay Science!
# obs. used (total)        20 
Listen folks do you all understand what rare means.  Well this event hardly ever happens and with only 20 observations don't you think NASA is watching this asteroid as I type; well why don't they update the observation list for asteroid 2015HM10.  Because they don't wish to alarm the public

Look I'm just stating the facts below it says its rare for uncertainty to be above 6.  Also all the global military exercises is rare too along with Jade Helm.

Uncertainty Parameter U and Orbit Quality Codes
Uncertainty Parameter U
QuoteIn order to quantify the uncertainty in a perturbed orbital solution for a minor planet in a concise fashion, the Minor Planet Center has introduced the U parameter. This is an integer in the range 0 to 9, where 0 indicates a very small uncertainty and 9 an extremely large uncertainty. In practice, U is rarely larger than 6.

Also NASA is lieing about 2015HM10 just read this and remember the uncertainty is higher than 6 as it is a 7 which is very rare
http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/info/UValue.html
When interpreting the Sentry Impact Risk Page, where information on known potential NEA impacts is posted, one must bear in mind that an Earth collision by a sizable NEA is a very low probability event. Objects normally appear on the Risk Page because their orbits can bring them close to the Earth's orbit and the limited number of available observations do not yet allow their trajectories to be well-enough defined. In such cases, there may be a wide range of possible future paths that can be fit to the existing observations, sometimes including a few that can intersect the Earth.
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/doc/sentry.html

Quote from: eddie dean on June 08, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Yay Science!

unfortunately, a wasted effort (as expected) upon the creator of this and umpteen number of such threads by those of the authors ilk. i say this because GFP2216 tries and always has when dealing with this guy. gifs are so much more.... um... fun.  ;D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Stellar on June 08, 2015, 04:59:13 PM
  # obs. used (total)        20 
Listen folks do you all understand what rare means.  Well this event hardly ever happens and with only 20 observations don't you think NASA is watching this asteroid as I type; well why don't they update the observation list for asteroid 2015HM10.  Because they don't wish to alarm the public

Look I'm just stating the facts below it says its rare for uncertainty to be above 6.  Also all the global military exercises is rare too along with Jade Helm.

Uncertainty Parameter U and Orbit Quality Codes
Uncertainty Parameter U
Also NASA is lieing about 2015HM10 just read this and remember the uncertainty is higher than 6 as it is a 7 which is very rare
http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/info/UValue.html
When interpreting the Sentry Impact Risk Page, where information on known potential NEA impacts is posted, one must bear in mind that an Earth collision by a sizable NEA is a very low probability event. Objects normally appear on the Risk Page because their orbits can bring them close to the Earth's orbit and the limited number of available observations do not yet allow their trajectories to be well-enough defined. In such cases, there may be a wide range of possible future paths that can be fit to the existing observations, sometimes including a few that can intersect the Earth.
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/doc/sentry.html

When it doesn't happen, will you apologise for scare mongering?

Stellar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
When it doesn't happen, will you apologise for scare mongering?

No my research supports an Impact on July 7th.

Catsmile

Quote from: Stellar on June 08, 2015, 10:29:17 PM
No my research supports an Impact on July 7th.

Does this mean Art Bells new show is "canceled" ?!


Heather Wade

Quote from: Catsmile on June 08, 2015, 10:34:53 PM
Does this mean Art Bells new show is "canceled" ?!

Somebody call somebody. 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Stellar on June 08, 2015, 10:29:17 PM
No my research supports an Impact on July 7th.

That being the case, will you be prepared for that 'Camping' moment when it doesn't happen? Will you be selling up before July  7th? After all, money will have no meaning and you can take a lead on the heretics.

Stellar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 08, 2015, 10:50:46 PM
That being the case, will you be prepared for that 'Camping' moment when it doesn't happen? Will you be selling up before July  7th? After all, money will have no meaning and you can take a lead on the heretics.
9/11


If you like your conspiracy theories served up with a batch of funny cartoons, this is for you. Back in 1997, an episode of The Simpsons featured Lisa holding up a $9 New York newspaper that features the twin towers.
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An asteroid blast would cause a major sonic boom, which may cause barotrauma that would deviate your septum

July 7, 2015 is when the Asteroid 2015HM10 will hit at 18:15 UT

How much do I need to show you guys and gals?
Big Bang Theory does and episode with Asteroid Strike in it on November 13, 2014 Season 8  Episode 9, "The Septum Deviation".  Hallway Art first appears with a J 7 on it and a burning Fireball Asteroid. 

At about 6:46 seconds you soon see the art in the Hallway in this video and its a J 7 fireball; also asteroid strike is mentioned in the "Deviated Septum" show. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDr3KwNFjt0


Stellar

Trust me I'm reporting this as is.  Washington DC will not have all the sell outs there on July 7, 2015 18:15 UT.  You have to ask yourself who is worse the crook, con, traitor or sell out.  The crooks are the banksters!  The cons are CEO wall street cronies! The traitors are the lobbyists and the Politicians are the sell outs!  Well Guess what if the sell outs are dumb enough to go back to Washington DC before July 7, 2015 which I hope they are then we have a homeland security HM10 bill fall into their ah well I doubt they will be there.









http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzMBqtBIaY8

Yorkshire pud

Yes, but what will you do and say when it doesn't happen..

Stellar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 09, 2015, 10:53:23 AM
Yes, but what will you do and say when it doesn't happen..


Ok my answer is and its a odd Number #1 I would be very happy no one died in mass numbers. Being the even guy well #  2 well if we don't get hit by an asteroid that is severe enough to kill say over 40 people then I would say spending a $TRILLION$ dollars on NASA was worth it when they finally come to their f_c_in_ sick minds and actually push asteroids out of orbit from destroying this beautiful planet, the world system yes go head let it rot in HELL.  Yet I have about .0012 au faith in man with no uncertainty 0 being bad, because history has shown that we are greedy careless bastards, murdering and some are godless and most don't give a shit.

I realize the sellouts control NASA'S direction, because the crooked stinking bankersters hold the purse strings while the con men on wall street live on profits while we all die at the beckoning of their stinking lobbyist traitors.

F_C_ the administration, congressional supreme corporate stinking system as high or should I say lower then HELL, because these Illuminati, bilderburg, free mason one eyed Egyptian Pyramid loving idol worshipers will find their abode in hell for eternity and I have been in hell for three days and it no picnic PUD.  And yet I even said to my self I hope my enemies don't go there, but yes they deserve it ok they are the seed of SATAN


You know what read Revelation 8:8

YOU KNOW WHAT read
QuoteRevelation 8:10-11


eddie dean

I'm enjoying this thread quite a bit Stellar. I think you are wrong, but who cares.
Your posts add a certain ambiance to the forum!
And let's face it, It wouldn't be an Art Bell fan forum without a few CT posters, right?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT7bbgsyzKc

Stellar

Quote from: eddie dean on June 08, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Yay Science!

Let me explain some astrophysics and orbits of phenomenon we are in and the boat less traveled.  Yes we are crossing the galactic plane wow NASA did not see this $TRILLION$ dollar question!  Where were the so called God Fearing leaders?  Well they were busy killing people.  Back to our subject oops time for graphs for knuckle heads like PUD.








OH yes NASA there it is full of Comets, Meteors, asteroids and New Planetary bodies go figure maybe with all that traffic we could resurrect Stanley Kubrick from his Illuminati Satanic followers murdering hands! Then we could make a movie of Bruce Willis actually pushing the asteroid out of trajectory thus creating the illusion that a $TRILLION$ ON PAPER is really worth all those trees! ah let that FIAT burn Burnakee.

Stellar

Quote from: (Redacted) on June 08, 2015, 10:37:50 PM
Somebody call somebody.

Ah its 3:00 am hilary fu_K-Obama too bad you had a nice evening salt and pepper.  Well time to split and hide in DEnVER Airport with the Queen Of England DUMB.  Where is that RED phone oh well I'll use oops my iphone is gone how about Yahoo mail NSA are watching.  Shit I"M Hilary Clinton lets get out the map well screw the EAST Coast ok head west the military will protect the politicians
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2013/03/denver-airport-probe-nearly-2-billion.html





Isaiah 2:19   | Read whole chapter   | See verse in context
And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwrnexYa4Zs

Okay, at the risk of losing my street cred I've graphed this out for you.

This first chart shows what NASA says will happen.  In my next post I'll illustrate your scenario.



The red line represents the relative speed of asteroid 2015 MH2015 as it passes inside of Earth's orbit.  I used NASA's close approach data to make a guess at resolving the velocity vectors, and then reassembled them to give you a total relative velocity for any given distance from the Earth.  It doesn't make a big difference either way.  I did not include the moon because it will be in a gibbous phase, outside of Earth's orbit while the asteroid passes on the inside. 

The vertical orange lines represent where NASA believes the asteroid will make its closest approach.  This includes the 67 minute uncertainty.  If they made a mistake and the asteroid were to approach closer, it would speed up as shown.

The green line is Earth's escape velocity at any given distance.  You can see in the scenario, which is according to NASA data, that the asteroid will always exceed the local escape velocity and hence will not become captured by the Earth.

This was NASA's scenario.  I will illustrate your proposed scenario in my next post.

This is the scenario you propose, Stellar, as I understand it.  You believe the Earth and Moon will be in approximate alignment as the asteroid passes its MOID, it's closest approach to Earth's orbit.  You believe if the asteroid is lagging behind it's nominal trajectory, the combined gravity of an Earth-Moon alignment will capture it.



First things first.  IT DOES NOT MATTER how closely 2015 MH10 passes by Earth's orbit.  EARTH WILL NOT BE THERE.  By then the asteroid will be leading the Earth by several hundred thousand miles.

However, I have illustrated what it would take for an Earth-Moon alignment to capture 2015 MH10.  I have used the Earth-Moon distance for July 7, 2015. The thin green line shows Earth's component of the Earth-Moon escape velocity.  The thin yellow line shows the Moon's.  The thick blue line is the local escape velocity for the combined Earth-Moon system at any given distance from the Earth.

The thick red line, again, represents the velocity of 2015 MH10 at any given distance from the Earth, if in alignment with the Earth and Moon.  This assumes the asteroid is leading the Earth, so this time, Earth's gravity retards its velocity.

The point to see here is that the Earth-Moon system can not capture 2015 MH10, even in this scenario, unless the asteroid happens to pass within about 15 000 miles of Earth in order for the asteroid's speed to drop below the local Earth-Moon escape velocity.

I hope you will study these graphs and understand that 2015 MH10 will not be captured by Earth or the Earth-Moon system during this pass, regardless of a 67 minute uncertainty NASA has already accounted for.

Sorry to piss on your parade again, but we are not passing through the equatorial plane of the galaxy.  We are about 14 light years above and travelling away from it.  Even if we were passing through it, there is nothing to pass through.  It would make no difference to anything.  14 light years is a small distance and for all practical purposes we are always in and around the galaxy's equator.

I know many have made the claim you are making.  This stems from a misunderstanding of terminology.  Astronomers have made a number of Earth-centric conventions for convenience.  I forget all the terminology,  It's confusing.  They define one plane as the lying along the line from Earth to the galaxy's center of mass.  We are always in that plane by definition.   This has become confused with the galaxy's equatorial plane, which it definitely is not.  Other confusions stem from the use of a third plane to describe the orbit of the Earth around the Sun.  So we have two Earth-centered planes which, by definition, must intersect twice in an orbit -- two times a year.  Many have taken this and made false claims of galactic alignment.  I know it's very confusing.

Stellar

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on June 09, 2015, 04:11:51 PM
Sorry to piss on your parade again, but we are not passing through the equatorial plane of the galaxy.  We are about 14 light years above and travelling away from it.  Even if we were passing through it, there is nothing to pass through.  It would make no difference to anything.  14 light years is a small distance and for all practical purposes we are always in and around the galaxy's equator.

I know many have made the claim you are making.  This stems from a misunderstanding of terminology.  Astronomers have made a number of Earth-centric conventions for convenience.  I forget all the terminology,  It's confusing.  They define one plane as the lying along the line from Earth to the galaxy's center of mass.  We are always in that plane by definition.   This has become confused with the galaxy's equatorial plane, which it definitely is not.  Other confusions stem from the use of a third plane to describe the orbit of the Earth around the Sun.  So we have two Earth-centered planes which, by definition, must intersect twice in an orbit -- two times a year.  Many have taken this and made false claims of galactic alignment.  I know it's very confusing.

oK MISTAKE BUT NON the less we are closer to it right.  Therefore more debri.

Stellar






Reason? Logic? Randomness? Uncertainty? Probability????????????????????

I went to Vegas one time and I'm sure the video is still on file, because the pit bosses were off their heads.  I played Roulette for about 8 hours took a break went to the teller and with drew $250.00.  I was down $200.00. Now after careful study and I mean study of all this, "Reason? Logic? Randomness? Uncertainty? Probability????????????????????".  I noticed Gravity anomalies of the old Pink Flamingo at the 17th floor.  Down on the floor one of the table lights seem to have similar numbers come up in lights a sort of bizarre order to the randomness.  Let me extrapolate, there is a reason not in chaos, but in randomness.  An epiphany of God!  I chased these numbers with on off bets in lets say random higher and lower gambits.  Well payoffs can be big or small in multiple ways in Roulette.  Now let me explain chaos- its the asshole pit boss thinking he wants too break my arm, hands and legs for walking into his joint and winning against his best Croupier's rake!  Yet God willing I walked away body intact after 12 hours playing with a fist full of $450.00 dollars :)


Listen Science are God's Tools and Chaos is Diablo's ploy.  DC and all the pain they have called down on themselves and death.  They are SATANIC most of them and they will fall with him one way or another into the Chaos.


Now Sodom and Gomorrah deserved the Chaos which struck!

And I sawe when the Lambe opened one of the seales, and I heard as it were the noise of thunder, one of the foure beastes, saying, Come and see.

2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and hee that sate on him had a bowe, and a crowne was giuen vnto him, and hee went foorth conquering, and to conquere.

3 And when hee had opened the second seale, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was giuen to him that sate thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was giuen vnto him a great sword.

5 And when hee had opened the third seale, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and loe, a blacke horse: and hee that sate on him had a paire of balances in his hand.

6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the foure beastes say, A measure of wheate for a penie, and three measures of barley for a penie, and see thou hurt not the oyle and the wine.

7 And when hee had opened the fourth seale, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

8 And I looked, and behold, a pale horse, & his name that sate on him was Death, and hell followed with him: and power was giuen vnto them, ouer the fourth part of the earth to kill with sword, & with hunger, and with death, and with the beastes of the earth.

9 And when hee had opened the fift seale, I saw vnder the altar, the soules of them that were slaine for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held.

10 And they cried with a lowd voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, doest thou not iudge and auenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were giuen vnto euery one of them, and it was sayd vnto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, vntill their fellow seruants also, and their brethren that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixt seale, and loe, there was a great earthquake, and the Sunne became blacke as sackecloth of haire, and the Moone became as blood.

13 And the starres of heauen fell vnto the earth, euen as a figge tree casteth her vntimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty winde.

14 And the heauen departed as a scrowle when it is rolled together, and euery mountaine and Island were moued out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chiefe captaines, and the mighty men, and euery bondman, and euery free man, hid themselues in the dennes, and in the rockes of the mountaines,

16 And said to the mountaines and rockes, Fall on vs, and hide vs from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lambe:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come, and who shall be able to stand?

Not quite what I was expecting  ??? ...

starrmtn001

Quote from: paladin1991 on June 05, 2015, 06:40:58 PM
Whatever happened to 30 mins or less.  Or it's free?
Yeah.  Good question paladin!  Nothin' worse than cold Doom-Pizza.

starrmtn001

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on June 09, 2015, 03:56:09 PM
This is the scenario you propose, Stellar, as I understand it.  You believe the Earth and Moon will be in approximate alignment as the asteroid passes its MOID, it's closest approach to Earth's orbit.  You believe if the asteroid is lagging behind it's nominal trajectory, the combined gravity of an Earth-Moon alignment will capture it.



First things first.  IT DOES NOT MATTER how closely 2015 MH10 passes by Earth's orbit.  EARTH WILL NOT BE THERE.  By then the asteroid will be leading the Earth by several hundred thousand miles.

However, I have illustrated what it would take for an Earth-Moon alignment to capture 2015 MH10.  I have used the Earth-Moon distance for July 7, 2015. The thin green line shows Earth's component of the Earth-Moon escape velocity.  The thin yellow line shows the Moon's.  The thick blue line is the local escape velocity for the combined Earth-Moon system at any given distance from the Earth.

The thick red line, again, represents the velocity of 2015 MH10 at any given distance from the Earth, if in alignment with the Earth and Moon.  This assumes the asteroid is leading the Earth, so this time, Earth's gravity retards its velocity.

The point to see here is that the Earth-Moon system can not capture 2015 MH10, even in this scenario, unless the asteroid happens to pass within about 15 000 miles of Earth in order for the asteroid's speed to drop below the local Earth-Moon escape velocity.

I hope you will study these graphs and understand that 2015 MH10 will not be captured by Earth or the Earth-Moon system during this pass, regardless of a 67 minute uncertainty NASA has already accounted for.
Hey.  That graph.  It kinda looks like a . . . uh, um . . . phallic symbol.  That, or my celibacy is being pissy.

Quote from: starrmtn001 on June 09, 2015, 06:10:33 PM
Hey.  That graph.  It kinda looks like a . . . uh, um . . . phallic symbol.  That, or my celibacy is being pissy.

:-[

albrecht

Quote from: Stellar on June 09, 2015, 03:01:25 PM
Ah its 3:00 am hilary fu_K-Obama too bad you had a nice evening salt and pepper.  Well time to split and hide in DEnVER Airport with the Queen Of England DUMB.  Where is that RED phone oh well I'll use oops my iphone is gone how about Yahoo mail NSA are watching.  Shit I"M Hilary Clinton lets get out the map well screw the EAST Coast ok head west the military will protect the politicians
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2013/03/denver-airport-probe-nearly-2-billion.html





Isaiah 2:19   | Read whole chapter   | See verse in context
And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwrnexYa4Zs
Stellar, you need an exhibition somewhere. If you would lay off, a bit, on the government and administration angles (a bit at least), I think you could get a government grant. Your posts, if put into some exhibition at a modern art gallery, could be interesting to people who like that type of "art" of multimedia, juxtaposition of various news clips, graphics, art, flashing lights, etc. Seriously, I've seen much worse considered art and getting grants and sales. (I recall some artist had an empty room with a blinking light-bulb in London once and, of course, the urinal deal.)

Stellar

Quote from: albrecht on June 09, 2015, 06:36:39 PM
Stellar, you need an exhibition somewhere. If you would lay off, a bit, on the government and administration angles (a bit at least), I think you could get a government grant. Your posts, if put into some exhibition at a modern art gallery, could be interesting to people who like that type of "art" of multimedia, juxtaposition of various news clips, graphics, art, flashing lights, etc. Seriously, I've seen much worse considered art and getting grants and sales. (I recall some artist had an empty room with a blinking light-bulb in London once and, of course, the urinal deal.)

lol or if your patronizing me than well my ego can handle that too.

albrecht

Quote from: Stellar on June 09, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
lol or if your patronizing me than well my ego can handle that too.
In that post I was totally serious, about you being able to "show" in some modern art museum and maybe get government, Foundation, or otherwise grants was also in all seriousness. Now, if you mean, such things are worthwhile or I would buy? Maybe not, but I enjoy your stuff much more than some stuff  I, more properly we all, are paying for currently by subsidizing via taxes and those monies not collected in taxes due to re-routing of said money to rich people's foundations, grants, etc to support various "art."

Stellar

Quote from: albrecht on June 09, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
In that post I was totally serious, about you being able to "show" in some modern art museum and maybe get government, Foundation, or otherwise grants was also in all seriousness. Now, if you mean, such things are worthwhile or I would buy? Maybe not, but I enjoy your stuff much more than some stuff  I, more properly we all, are paying for currently by subsidizing via taxes and those monies not collected in taxes due to re-routing of said money to rich people's foundations, grants, etc to support various "art."

Annukia on there way to help along Asteroid HM10 hit DC

ISIS CiA Talmud Israel Ploy-  They are Pharsis Obama behind too.  Obama and Neplim to try and destroy the Hoover DAM like an EMP attack on America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQkYtmewSpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfBBF4_hkDQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTFpoVu4dI


Stellar

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on June 09, 2015, 06:20:11 PM
:-[

Listen Georgia you want  facts right well there is strong evidence that the gravitational pull of Nibiru is bring along AsteroidHM10 towards DC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTFpoVu4dI

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Stellar on June 13, 2015, 04:12:36 AM
Listen Georgia you want  facts right well there is strong evidence that the gravitational pull of Nibiru is bring along AsteroidHM10 towards DC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTFpoVu4dI


Might this be the same Planet Nibiru that hit us in December 2013? Yeah, I think it is.

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