Ebola

[ItsOver]

     Tumeric Turkey this Thanksgiving.

With a healthy helping of cranberrys and Carnivora. Has Jorch run a commercial yet for his buddy Ty, extolling how Pres Obama has successfully used Carnivora?  That'll definitely be "game over."

[albrecht]

With a healthy helping of cranberrys and Carnivora. Has Jorch run a commercial yet for his buddy Ty, extolling how Pres Obama has successfully used Carnivora?  That'll definitely be "game over."

Let us not forget the health of our canine friends. Apparently they might catch ebola also. So have a supply of DINOVITE on hand. (Do they make survival foods for dogs for use in their doghouse bunker? Id better stock up those also.)

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

With a healthy helping of cranberrys and Carnivora. Has Jorch run a commercial yet for his buddy Ty, extolling how Pres Obama has successfully used Carnivora?  That'll definitely be "game over."

Maybe something like

Bollinger:  "President Obama has refused to have Carnivora delivered to the White House since 2009, and look at how much he has aged.  I just started taking Carnivora before this commercial break and I fully expect to stop aging from knocking at my door."

Noory:  "There you have it.  Proof that the aging response can be modulated."

[ItsOver]

Ah, yes, that all important 'mune modulation.  I wonder what happens when you mix Carnivora, turmeric, and Dinovite together.

[bateman]

... I'll just leave this here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/10/15/obama-i-hugged-and-kissed-medical-staff-treating-an-ebola-patient-and-felt-perfectly-safe-doing-so/

[albrecht]

... I'll just leave this here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/10/15/obama-i-hugged-and-kissed-medical-staff-treating-an-ebola-patient-and-felt-perfectly-safe-doing-so/

I guess this is supposed to inspire confidence and bolster the morale of the medical staff, in particular, nurses who have taken some heat recently. But it just seems odd to me and an unnecessary danger. Give speeches, get a photo-op, but I don't know about the rest. And I hope it wasn't a "french kiss" considering the bodily fluids deal. And strangely no mention of names, or gender, of said nurses. I'm I wrong to assume they were male nurses?

[FightTheFuture]

Let us not forget the health of our canine friends. Apparently they might catch ebola also. So have a supply of DINOVITE on hand. (Do they make survival foods for dogs for use in their doghouse bunker? Id better stock up those also.)

how about some Texas superfood??

Texas superfooooooood.com




Drives me freaking'  crazy

[bateman]

Maybe something like

Bollinger:  "President Obama has refused to have Carnivora delivered to the White House since 2009, and look at how much he has aged.  I just started taking Carnivora before this commercial break and I fully expect to stop aging from knocking at my door."

Noory:  "There you have it.  Proof that the aging response can be modulated."

He might need some soon:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/10/15/obama-i-hugged-and-kissed-medical-staff-treating-an-ebola-patient-and-felt-perfectly-safe-doing-so/

[Up All Night]

The Dallas County Commissioners Court is planning to call a special meeting for Thursday to discuss whether to request that Gov. Rick Perry declare a local emergency because of the Ebola crisis.

According to state law, a declaration of emergency, says "the county judge or mayor of a municipality may control ingress to and egress from a disaster area under the jurisdiction and authority of the county judge or mayor and control the movement of persons and the occupancy of premises in that area.”

The declarations last up to seven days, and can be renewed by the Commissioners Court for longer than that.

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So, that would give the local authorities the power to restrict air travel for anyone on a watch list, regardless of whether or not they have a temperature.

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Also, there will be Congressional Hearing Thursday the 16th in front of the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.

Officials scheduled to testify at the hearing include CDC Director Thomas Frieden and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Daniel Varga, the chief clinical officer at parent company of the Texas hospital that treated the Liberian man who died of Ebola, will attend via video-link so that he can remain in Dallas to take care of his responsibilities there.   

[Up All Night]

That's just more of the typical hubris and platitudes we've been getting from the medical institutions.  Every level has failed in Dallas from the first case presenting for diagnosis to handling infected waste to monitoring the exposed care providers. Every one.  And none of the failures are complicated or high tech.  These are all "WTF??"-level screw-ups.  Mistakes are one thing.  Repeated incompetence where expertise is expected is quite another.  Blame is entirely appropriate when incompetency is left in place and avoids responsibility.  Group hugs won't fix this.  And I can imagine the bill that Dallas Presbyt will send to the govt for their two weeks of fuck-ups that, at best, will cost others millions in associated disruption.

Right, and who is paying for all of those many, many people affected by this, in one way or another, that have been told to not come back to work for 21 days. Are they all getting paid leave? Is the Guberment back-stopping all of those airline, health, police, fire, family, friends, etc. workers' paid leaves???

[VtaGeezer]

The more the news comes out it seems more wtf. Even I a non-medically trained person would think piling up soiled sheets in a room is a suspect practice. Even if the guy didnt have a deadly disease. Ultimately though with an open-border n refusal to stop incoming people from infected countries the responsibility lands with the Feds. Hospitals, or even States, cant refuse people or keep people out. Simply not allowing people in by not granting a VISA and checking passports (ideally prior to departure) stopped this from happening- at least in this instance. That doesnt mean not helping or getting involved over in Africa but just basic, common-sense.

We've still had only one person slip through a system that, in hindsight, was insufficient.  All the problems since Duncan walked into the ER have been homegrown. The average intelligent person knew things were seriously amiss immediately upon the news that Duncan's travel was ignored on his initial trip to the ER.  I assumed that kind of slip would wake the medical establishment up, including CDC.  Nope...we've had two weeks of business as usual.  Daily briefings on the fine and heroic job they're doing. Texas Health, the owner of the hospital, has been absolutely opaque.  We get more info from Pyongyang than we get from that place. 

Multiply Dallas Presbyt Hospital by five thousand hospitals in the US that we thought were getting ready for Ebola or SARS or H1N1 or some other plague for years. The medical establishment was caught with its pants down and, worse, won't admit it.  This is not unlike the bureaucratic stupidity that, though all the clues were put in front of them, allowed inter-agency protocols to prevent uncovering and stopping the 9/11 attack. 

There are 20 million in affected W Africa. Those backing the stoppage of travel from W Africa because of one man coming to the US are being unrealistic and don't understand modern travel or realize the catastrophic economic effect such draconian measures would have.  There's no way to make any regional embargo air tight.  You can't isolate W Africa; you'd have to shut out everyone. And some will still get through.

[VtaGeezer]

Right, and who is paying for all of those many, many people affected by this, in one way or another, that have been told to not come back to work for 21 days. Are they all getting paid leave? Is the Guberment back-stopping all of those airline, health, police, fire, family, friends, etc. workers' paid leaves???

No.  Losses will have to be eaten by the economy. That's a big reason why the market dropped like a stone today. That and the talk by rightwingers of closing down air travel.

[paladin1991]

I'd hand Texas over to the Mexicans.

Do they still want it, though?

"Texas?  We don't need no stinkin' Ebola!"

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

one thing we know for sure. if a real bio attack were to happen, we would all be screwed. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Just from an observation point of view: Toffee, sweet or salt popcorn? I only like toffee.

[Yorkshire pud]

You are certainly entitled to that opinion. To me anyone who promises to "fundamentally transform" something, like a country, must not hold it in very high regard.

Or what about the acceptance the country was/is broken and well away from it's tenets. Only those who have engineered and subscribed to the shift away have a vested interest in keeping the new status quo, and dismiss an attempt to get back to the original tenets as being 'commie'?

The rest of the planet knows the USA has shifted to and sees the race to the far right over the past twenty years or so, why can't the right wingers in the USA?

[PB the Deplorable]

...  I assumed that kind of slip would wake the medical establishment up, including CDC.  Nope...we've had two weeks of business as usual.  Daily briefings on the fine and heroic job they're doing. Texas Health, the owner of the hospital, has been absolutely opaque.  We get more info from Pyongyang than we get from that place...

Yes, the CDC.  The people who report to the President (the Director of the CDC is appointed by the President, and does not require confirmation).  The present Director - Thomas Frieden - was appointed by Obama in 2009, so it shouldn't really be a surprise he's a flop.

The CDC is supposed to establish protocols and training, not every local hospital out there.  They've only had since spring to do so for Ebola.  Doesn't appear to have been any advance guidance at all.

The way Obama's Chicago Machine operates, I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone from the West Wing has threatened the hospital about what they can and cannot discuss about the issue.


Yes, let's put our trust in Big Government.  Let's let them decide who gets what healthcare and who goes to which doctors. 

... There are 20 million in affected W Africa. Those backing the stoppage of travel from W Africa because of one man coming to the US are being unrealistic and don't understand modern travel or realize the catastrophic economic effect such draconian measures would have.  There's no way to make any regional embargo air tight.  You can't isolate W Africa; you'd have to shut out everyone. And some will still get through.

No, we can't isolate Africa in an airtight quarantine.  But we can pluck the low hanging fruit and stop passengers originating from those countries.  Which would be a huge improvement over doing nothing.  It seems to me denying entry to nearly all who would otherwise get through would be better than dealing with anyone that can get on a plane.

Since we can't stop all violence and murderer, should we just forget about policing our streets?  Jeez, the same people who think we can't stop everything so let's not bother trying are the same people that would take the guns only from law abiding citizens.  The same people who aren't listening to the epidemiologists advising the WHO are the same people always clucking about how they are on the side of science when it comes to global whatever.  And the same people who gave us Obama in the first place.


By the way, what is this 'catastrophic economic effect' that would occur if the 'draconian measures' of trying to keep this virus out the country are implemented?  Please be specific. 

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

Just from an observation point of view: Toffee, sweet or salt popcorn? I only like toffee.

mmmm toffee. i miss European confections. i cringe at the sight of someone eating those bricks of burned glass called Heath bars. think i'll splurge and make a few online orders. any dark chocolate suggestions? 

[paladin1991]

How about tobacco infused?

[Yorkshire pud]

mmmm toffee. i miss European confections. i cringe at the sight of someone eating those bricks of burned glass called Heath bars. think i'll splurge and make a few online orders. any dark chocolate suggestions? 

Do you get Lindt chocolate? They do a nice dark one with chilli---now I confess, when I was first offered it, I was dubious, but it's quite nice. They also do it with mint, blueberry and several others... Indulge and have no shame.

[PB the Deplorable]

... The rest of the planet knows the USA has shifted to and sees the race to the far right over the past twenty years or so, why can't the right wingers in the USA?

Because it's BS put out by the Far Left.  You know, the people that have taken over the Democrat Party and the Media that operates as their propaganda arm.  Thanks for falling for it.  Just because the Socialists have taken over nearly every party in much of Western Europe, and Socialists and dictators have taken over much of the rest of the world, doesn't make the US 'Far Right'.  Just because the Democrats want the same for us doesn't mean it's for the best - just the opposite.

Personal Liberty, small limited government, low taxes, freedom of exchange, personal property rights, the right to the fruit of one's labor, the rule of law, opportunity for all, personal responsibility, and support of our Constitutional system of government and individual rights listed in the Bill of Rights, self rule, self determination, the consent of the governed - yeah that's really radical and Far Right. 

What it actually is is the continuation of The Enlightenment. Everything else is an attempt to eradicate those freedoms. 

Maybe you can explain why - if we are so 'far right', if we are so 'racist' - why people are pouring into our country, and yet no one leaves?

[Yorkshire pud]

Because it's BS put out by the Far Left.

I said the rest of the planet.. The rest of the planet are not the far left.

You know, the people that have taken over the Democrat Party and the Media that operates as their propaganda arm.  Thanks for falling for it.  Just because the Socialists have taken over nearly every party in much of Western Europe, and Socialists and dictators have taken over much of the rest of the world, doesn't make the US 'Far Right'.  Just because the Democrats want the same for us doesn't mean it's for the best - just the opposite.

Utter bollox.

Personal Liberty, small limited government, low taxes, freedom of exchange, personal property rights, the right to the fruit of one's labor, the rule of law, opportunity for all, personal responsibility, and support of our Constitutional system of government and individual rights listed in the Bill of Rights, self rule, self determination, the consent of the governed - yeah that's really radical and Far Right. 

No, that's what it used to be up until about twenty-thirty years ago, it hasn't since then.

What it actually is is the continuation of The Enlightenment. Everything else is an attempt to eradicate those freedoms. 

Maybe you can explain why - if we are so 'far right', if we are so 'racist' - why people are pouring into our country, and yet no one leaves?

Far right isn't just racism. If you think it is, I can't explain as you wouldn't understand.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

.......By the way, what is this 'catastrophic economic effect' that would occur if the 'draconian measures' of trying to keep this virus out the country are implemented?  Please be specific.

it would seem to me that ebola "raging out of control in west africa" is about as catastrophic economically as it gets. controlling air traffic is something the world loves to do these days. for the price of a ticket you get a free physical screening or scan. throw in a free health check at the airports. i'd go just for the prostate check. 

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

Do you get Lindt chocolate? They do a nice dark one with chilli---now I confess, when I was first offered it, I was dubious, but it's quite nice. They also do it with mint, blueberry and several others... Indulge and have no shame.

yes i do like a chocolate with 75 to 85 percent cocoa solids, but i can't find their 85 percent within a hundred miles. i got use to a brand that had the high content of cocoa with a touch of cinnamon. i think i had it when i passed thru Sri Lanka.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Far right isn't just racism. If you think it is, I can't explain as you wouldn't understand.

Of course it isn't.  I was just trying to anticipate your next lame post

[PB the Deplorable]

I said the rest of the planet.. The rest of the planet are not the far left...

No, but it IS the Far Left putting out the BS about the US shifting to the 'Far Right'. 

And the 'rest of the planet' isn't buying it, mostly just the people in Western Europe.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Utter bollox...

Really?

Which major parties in Western Europe are fighting for smaller government?  Less taxes?  The end of socialized health care?  Feel free to add and respond to other anti-Socialist issues I might be missing.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

http://rt.com/usa/196324-yellow-fever-mosquito-los-angeles/

The Shining - Here's Johnny!

[Yorkshire pud]

Really?

Which major parties in Western Europe are fighting for smaller government?  Less taxes?  The end of socialized health care?  Feel free to add and respond to other anti-Socialist issues I might be missing.

Smaller government is left wing! It's the collective population deciding and implementing it's agenda without an over arching 'elite'. Politically Germany is 'left' of the USA and has been since the war (with the exception of Helmut Kohl). Their workers have a say in the way their factories work and function up to and including board level (so does Japan)...Germany has one of the biggest economies in the world, and a centre of engineering excellence; so would you suggest they're missing out?

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

This concept of conservative values being fundamentally based around smaller government seems to be a recent phenomenon.  I think it's a revisionist history based on what conservatives think the Reagan playbook was.