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[starrmtn001]

Now I can sleep well 

Guess I went to bed too early last night.  Since it's too late to delete my negative reply to you, I'll post a retraction.
Thank you for that Meister, you're a good man.

[starrmtn001]

Well, aren't you an arrogant, narcissistic, somovabitch.

I retract the above statement about Meister.

[Catsmile]

Oh Gawd!  I LOVE happy endings! 

Praise MV!

Happy ending... always come in handy. 



Love happy ending long tiem!

[Sean92008]

My educated guess on your question is no, negative. Sometimes, the instinct and some of the behavior remains even though the equipment has been removed.

My concern about neutering too young is the effect on normal physiological development and the stress of surgery at a very young age. I don't know how the evidence would support my concerns, but vets are very cost and convenience-conscious these days. The old practice with neutering seemed to work fine.

Thanks VofP

[Showroom Dummy]

maybe we  need to remember what Spock said in wrath of kahn  please see below          ....."as with all human things each according to his gifts  "        ...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCs6fhuc6mI

[Meister_000]

Guess I went to bed too early last night.  Since it's too late to delete my negative reply to you, I'll post a retraction.
Thank you for that Meister, you're a good man.

Ok, thanks Starr.

[Meister_000]

[Sorry kids, but this thread appears to be the most appropriate home for this -- MV's always looking for timely topics related to his site, I'm sure . .]

National Enquirer: Feb. 1, 2016  issue (available now)
Top left corner Headline:
"DAVID BOWIE DIED OF AIDS!"  (their caps)

Sad. When I saw this National Enquirer cover at the check-out stand of Safeway tonight, the first thing that came to mind, of course, was disgust. The second thing was, you guessed it. The only other institution I could think of on-par with this level of sleaze peddling is good-ol Bellgab. Nice rep you've earned MV -- and one you're are so willing and eager to stain your entire membership with. Thanks. Take a bow! You're a Giant!

[SredniVashtar]

[Sorry kids, but this thread appears to be the most appropriate home for this -- MV's always looking for timely topics related to his site, I'm sure . .]

National Enquirer: Feb. 1, 2016  issue (available now)
Top left corner Headline:
"DAVID BOWIE DIED OF AIDS!"  (their caps)

Sad. When I saw this National Enquirer cover at the check-out stand of Safeway tonight, the first thing that came to mind, of course, was disgust. The second thing was, you guessed it. The only other institution I could think of on-par with this level of sleaze peddling is good-ol Bellgab. Nice rep you've earned MV -- and one you're are so willing and eager stain your entire membership with. Thanks. Take a bow! You're a Giant!

Two points come to mind. First of all, is it true? Are you accusing the National Enquirer of doing something ignoble like finding out the facts of a case and informing their readers? No doubt you are reading this while scanning Pravda over your breakfast egg, but most of us prefer something that might occasionally turn up something interesting. Secondly, what's the implication here; that dying of AIDS is morally worse than cancer? I assumed, being a heavy smoker, that it was lung cancer. I'd suggest (if we were to play the blame game) there was a simiiar level of culpability with the two conditions.

[Meister_000]

Two points come to mind. First of all, is it true? Are you accusing the National Enquirer of doing something ignoble like finding out the facts of a case and informing their readers? No doubt you are reading this while scanning Pravda over your breakfast egg, but most of us prefer something that might occasionally turn up something interesting. Secondly, what's the implication here; that dying of AIDS is morally worse than cancer? I assumed, being a heavy smoker, that it was lung cancer. I'd suggest (if we were to play the blame game) there was a similar level of culpability with the two conditions.

The point is the ready association and reputation: think "sleaze" and what comes to mind next . . . ?

Got it?

[SredniVashtar]

The point is the ready association and reputation: think "sleaze" and what comes to mind next . . . ?

Got it?

If someone says 'sleaze', my first reaction is 'where?' followed by some rather unpleasant drooling.

[Meister_000]

 

[onan]

If someone says 'sleaze', my first reaction is 'where?' followed by some rather unpleasant drooling.

See, and when I hear sleaze, I look at you.

[Lilith]

Joy, Sadness, sleaze,  Welcome to the Human Race.  Loves me some bellgab, where the entire human spectrum is embraced!!

Love bellgabbers!

Praise MV!

[GravitySucks]

[Sorry kids, but this thread appears to be the most appropriate home for this -- MV's always looking for timely topics related to his site, I'm sure . .]

National Enquirer: Feb. 1, 2016  issue (available now)
Top left corner Headline:
"DAVID BOWIE DIED OF AIDS!"  (their caps)

Sad. When I saw this National Enquirer cover at the check-out stand of Safeway tonight, the first thing that came to mind, of course, was disgust. The second thing was, you guessed it. The only other institution I could think of on-par with this level of sleaze peddling is good-ol Bellgab. Nice rep you've earned MV -- and one you're are so willing and eager to stain your entire membership with. Thanks. Take a bow! You're a Giant!

At least they didn't accuse him of dying homeless. Man, that would really bring back bad memories. That is the problem with societies today, dead people have no constituency these days to protect them.

😎

[Meister_000]

At least they didn't accuse him of dying homeless. Man, that would really bring back bad memories. That is the problem with societies today, dead people have no constituency these days to protect them.
😎

I appreciate that you were trying to be humorous there , but you inadvertantly bring up an interesting point. First, for the record, I guarantee you that dead people, their heirs, estates and trustees, have volumes of law, rights, protections, recourses and remedies at their service -- as-well-as living "constituents" (heirs and relatives, estate-tax law attorneys and legislators) on the job and representing them.

The irony I was meaning to suggest then, is, the clear implication by extention that; "dead people" have more rights, protections, and advocates, working on their behalf and representing their interests, than the homeless (have)." or alternately,  "The Homeless _would_ be better-off Dead" ! 

The homeless are effectively abandoned and "Stateless" --  exiles, refugies . . .

[GravitySucks]

I did it again, didn't I?

[Lilith]

"The Homeless _would_ be better-off Dead" ! 

The homeless are effectively abandoned and "Stateless" --  exiles, refugies . . .

Irony?

"...the last shall be first, and the first shall be last".

"Bring me your hungry, your tired, your poor".

"..do unto others as.."

"Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"


Just some food for thought, the sources aren't important to me.

[Meister_000]

I did it again, didn't I?

 
or, perhaps a "foot-in-mouth" gif? 

[GravitySucks]

 
or, perhaps a "foot-in-mouth" gif? 

[Showroom Dummy]

Two points come to mind. First of all, is it true? Are you accusing the National Enquirer of doing something ignoble like finding out the facts of a case and informing their readers? No doubt you are reading this while scanning Pravda over your breakfast egg, but most of us prefer something that might occasionally turn up something interesting. Secondly, what's the implication here; that dying of AIDS is morally worse than cancer? I assumed, being a heavy smoker, that it was lung cancer. I'd suggest (if we were to play the blame game) there was a simiiar level of culpability with the two conditions.

hey  hows it going  when posting questions can you please put them under each other  and number them -thanks so much 

[GravitySucks]

hey  hows it going  when posting questions can you put them under each other  and number them -thanks so much

As Sredni's representative here in the colonies, the short answer is no.

You will thank me later for providing you with the short answer.

[Meister_000]

Irony?

"...the last shall be first, and the first shall be last".

"Bring me your hungry, your tired, your poor".

I was making a joke that the homeless might be better off dead for any number of reasons ( e.g. the cessation of suffering) but now, to those reasons we can add, they will actually gain or have more rights and remedies, effectively "more legal personhood" in death than while still alive. ! [and no it's not funny at all, irony was the best word I could come up with short of cussing.]

And I do routinely interpret "the first shall be last" to mean; yes, indeed, those who "should" have come first, will in fact come last. To whit, e.g. Gay Marriage Rights elevated above and prioritised over (come first) before the rights of the Homeless. And that in the name of "Equality"  

I happen to live in San Francisco, and this City (Capital of Marriage Equality Rights) is one of the biggest offenders in the country when it comes to homeless rights aka Human rights. But here they've gone way beyond mere criminal negligence, to active, willful, deliberate, Intent to Harm and to Terrorize the homeless (by legislation first, and then through the millitary-wing of city gov, the SFPD, you know, guys with guns, tasers, bench warrants, jails, etc.)

Are we communicating?

[Meister_000]

mighty cute that   

[Value Of Pi]

I appreciate that you were trying to be humorous there , but you inadvertantly bring up an interesting point. First, for the record, I guarantee you that dead people, their heirs, estates and trustees, have volumes of law, rights, protections, recourses and remedies at their service -- as-well-as living "constituents" (heirs and relatives, estate-tax law attorneys and legislators) on the job and representing them.

The irony I was meaning to suggest then, is, the clear implication by extention that; "dead people" have more rights, protections, and advocates, working on their behalf and representing their interests, than the homeless (have)." or alternately,  "The Homeless _would_ be better-off Dead" ! 

The homeless are effectively abandoned and "Stateless" --  exiles, refugies . . .

Theoretically, your first paragraph is true; in reality, not so much. All these people represent themselves or an institution first and foremost, and the pieces of paper representing the deceased only secondarily. Most of the time in life, the only way to safeguard your interests is to personally make it happen, which is not possible in this case.

It changes the balance a little bit when compared to the homeless. Being dead is no bargain when it comes to human rights.

[starrmtn001]

Irony?

"...the last shall be first, and the first shall be last".

"Bring me your hungry, your tired, your poor".

"..do unto others as.."

"Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"


Just some food for thought, the sources aren't important to me.

+1 

[Meister_000]

Theoretically, your first paragraph is true; in reality, not so much. All these people represent themselves or an institution first and foremost, and the pieces of paper representing the deceased only secondarily. Most of the time in life, the only way to safeguard your interests is to personally make it happen, which is not possible in this case.

It changes the balance a little bit when compared to the homeless. Being dead is no bargain when it comes to human rights.

In any event, even if it were limited to just the disposing of the remains, they and their case would recieve more attention, proceedural guarantees, and respect, in death than in life. And while I like that last line, some fates are worse than death.

[Value Of Pi]

In any event, even if it were limited to just the disposing of the remains, they and their case would recieve more attention, proceedural guarantees, and respect, in death than in life. And while I like that last line, some fates are worse than death.

So they say and I can certainly see why they say it. But there is that little bit of uncertainty that people have about how bad death could be. I know I felt it when one of the undead in the sequel to "Night of the Living Dead" was asked why he and his friends were walking around eating the brains of the living. The response was: "Because it hurts to be dead." Not to mention the permanence of the condition.

I think I just made a depressing conversation even more depressing. Sorry about that, Chief.

[Meister_000]

So they say and I can certainly see why they say it. But there is that little bit of uncertainty that people have about how bad death could be. I know I felt it when one of the undead in the sequel to "Night of the Living Dead" was asked why he and his friends were walking around eating the brains of the living. The response was: "Because it hurts to be dead." Not to mention the permanence of the condition.

I think I just made a depressing conversation even more depressing. Sorry about that, Chief.

Actually I do agree. Death itself, when it finally comes, is often merciful (i.e. not "bad".) And I also don't believe in any kind of afterlife or immortality of the individual soul or personality, hence I don't believe in any kind of suffering in "The Hereafter". 

[Ciardelo]

Actually I do agree. Death itself, when it finally comes, is often merciful (i.e. not "bad".) And I also don't believe in any kind of afterlife or immortality of the individual soul or personality, hence I don't believe in any kind of suffering in "The Hereafter".

When it's time, i want you to be the one to bring me the perfect slice of key lime pie.

[Meister_000]

When it's time, i want you to be the one to bring me the perfect slice of key lime pie.

I'll do my best -- though I don't relish the thought of goodbyes generally.

[edit: and no I didn't mean "generally, but in your case I will make the exception and relish the thought" ]