The GabCast (A podcast about BellGab)

[pate]

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comparing 4channers to homeless people

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Dang-o Homeless!

I love Lamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHSCNrCqTpY

Naow back to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MsXqoGC44Q

[GuerrillaUnReal]

I believe so. The random capitalized words is the give away.

I'm not sure if it is or not since I remember that account posting during live threads but that post was the most epic trolling of the week.

[whoozit]

I can sound arrogant, grandiose, and even self-righteous with my emphatic and confident tone. And I am in fact a Son-of-a-Bitch when crossed. But nevertheless, I am right. 

Don't sell yourself short, you forgot smug.   

[onan]

Don't sell yourself short, you forgot smug.   

I own smug, goddamnit.

[SredniVashtar]

I believe so. The random capitalized words is the give away.

No, he isn't Art. This sort of thing goes on a lot, with people fingering posters as one sock puppet or another. In some cases it might well be the case, but not this time.

[GravitySucks]

I own smug(TM), goddamnit.

FIFY

[HedgehogNorman]

Did an Occupy protest just breakout here on BellGab?

Did anyone take a crap in the corner?

If not, then no.

[HedgehogNorman]

FIFY

Alt+0153

[cweb]

Did anyone take a crap in the corner?

It's called the Falkie thread.

[delanee]

Well, aren't you an arrogant, narcissistic, somovabitch.

And tired, too, with all that swirling around and pointing at himself in the mirror.  The point could have been made in 25 words or less. 

[GravitySucks]

And tired, too, with all that swirling around and pointing at himself in the mirror.  The point could have been made in 25 words or less.

It is apparent you haven't read any of Mesiter_000's previous body of work. This was an abridged diatribe.

[SredniVashtar]

Well, aren't you an arrogant, narcissistic, somovabitch.

There's only room for one of those here. And I'm in the mood to throw down!!!

[Lilith]

There's only room for one of those here. And I'm in the mood to throw down!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsPa8QgGGkc

[GravitySucks]

There's only room for one of those here. And I'm in the mood to throw down!!!

Meister_000, meet SredniVashtar.

10 round match for the title.

No hitting below the belt and no gouging of eyes.

Begin...

#homelesslivesmatter

[Lilith]

Meister_000, meet SredniVashtar.

10 round match for the title.

No hitting below the belt and no gouging of eyes.

Begin...

#homelesslivesmatter

discuss

[Meister_000]

It is apparent you haven't read any of Mesiter_000's previous body of work. This was an abridged diatribe.

<Fact> There's a little problem in the "veracity department" with your summation and characterization there Gravity. The problem has to do with that little inconvenience called "Posting History". My posting history and in its totality says that you are a liar. Plain and Simple. Period. What is "apparent" instead is that _you_  have not read Meisters "body of work".  Those are the facts.

[GravitySucks]

Exhibit A

MV, you are an Unprincipled TURD
Like we haven't had enough problems around here in the last six weeks? Now you take the initiative to instigate an active not passive assault on Art's Facebook page and posters?! Like you couldn't find enough STUPID shit on your own website and from your own posters to comment on? You take the fucking cake. You didn't stir up enough shit or enough page hits here last week by announcing to everyone the private business that Art might have laid it on the line with "poor little old sweet and innocent you"? You, who openly actively and explicitly encourages trolls and vile posters not only to come here but stay and exercise their so-called "free speech" at any and all expense because "hey, I MV finally found a way to make a Profit off my web site and Ain't I an American!!! We don't need no stinkin Integrity, no Responsibility to anything or anyone. I'm gettin mine and fuck you all. Decency? Honor? Truth in Advertising? Fuck that, I'm a Free Enterprise American, an Entrepreneur!

If you've got so much free time on your hands, grab a text editor and correct the name and Label of your God Damn Home Page because Bellgab and its Owner is NOT any kind of "Art Bell Fan Site" let alone "THE" Art Bell fan site. You Unprincipled and Unscrupulous Swine.

[GravitySucks]

Exhibit B

With due respect Herr Doktor, I think one of us needs their head examined!    That's quite a leap you've made in your interpretation of the Scripture passage in question.

To start with, I don't buy into the Homo Superior, Homo Luminous, on the Cusp of some major Consciousness Expansion/Transformation Birthing event, and I respect Bowie's intelligence too much to believe he did either.  We'll be miraculously lucky to become even plain old "Human",  EVER, in future. We don't need to be no stinkin Starmen, just Earth men/women, proper Earthlings, is already more than we have the right to hope for.

That said, I do believe that Bowie was a very Spiritual inclined soul, and in the Authentic meaning of that word. I only need to see this video (Blackstar), and ponder some of it's lyrics to know it (i.e. even if I knew nothing else about the man).

There are many themes and ideas compressed into both the lyrics alone, and the video alone, and I won't pretend to know all of David's precise and multiple meanings either originally nor what was settled for in the end.

I _will_ venture this one leap in interpretation though; that the original opening lyric was not "In the Villa of Ormen" but something more like; "In the House/Heart/Soul of All Men, or Amen, or "in the House of God", or "In The Hearts and Hopes of all "True Believers" or those Likened-to or Imitating God. Something to that effect, I suspect, was more likely the idea germ. If we play along with that supposition, and then add some of the subsequent lines, we arrive at something like this:

"In the villa of Amen, In the villa of All Men
Stands a solitary candle,   ah-ah,    ah-ah
In the centre of it all,   in the centre of it all,
Your eyes"

The solitary candle is the single Uniting Eternal Flame of hope and striving.  And the content of that hope, that thing which Lights the Way, the Center of "it all" always was and forever will be "Your Eyes", Your Sightedness, your Wisdom, your Preservation, your Safety. Seeing to those things, or that One Solitary Thing,  _is_ . . . at the Center of it all,  is the Center of it all.

And that, tells _me_, all I need to know about Master Bowie.

"Planet Earth is Blue, and there's nothing I can Do." say's much the same. 

[GravitySucks]

Exhibit C

Hi WORT. If this is a serious question, you have tapped the main-line, and could easily spend the rest of your life digesting all there is to learn about the notion of Rights and it's history. No other question has occupied the best minds on this planet more, and actively, for the past 500 years. The Age of Reason, The Enlightenment, and it's Philosophy, Theology, Ethics, Political Science, all of it, centered upon revolved around, hinged upon, evolved out of humankind's inquiry into two inter-related and inter-dependent ideas, those of Natural Law and by extension Natural Rights and ultimately arriving at Human Rights only very recently -- largely a 20th century extension of ancient principles.

A couple of quick notes. Natural Law theory and writings come first in the historical sequence, initiated most deliberately via Roman Law (as in 1st century Roman Empire, the Stoic Philosophers, etc). Very similar ideas are the ground of the then contemporary early Christianity, e.g. The Golden Rule, human Conscience "Written on the Heart". The great revival of Natural Law tradition occurred in the 12th and 13th centuries, kicked-off by the recovery of Roman Law (Civil Law and Natural Law both) via "Justinian's Code". The English Magna Carta (Rights and Authorities document) happens here too, within this time zone. Thomas Aquinas (Summa Theologica, THE classic Catholic Natural Law statement is therein) is right there too, late 1200's.

Skipping over large parts of the story; during the Enlightenment, all roads led to and from Natural Law theories (and in the Physical Sciences as well), all sides and parties, Left, Right, Religious and Secular, claimed Natural Law as their #1 source and validator. The only and the biggest question was, does such Natural Law come from God? or Nature? -- Nature here including Human Nature and natural Human faculties of Reason (in particular) but also the notion of natural human animal Conscience (a feeling/emotion rather than rigorous Rational Reason). Where and with whom or what does ultimate Authority rest, and the scope or/and limits and warrants of said Authority. That was the big question and the battle ground. Natural Law come Natural Rights, that is where you must go (in history of Philosophy and Political Science and Ethics) to get your answers.

Of note is the fact that, Muslim/Islamic culture and law is largely devoid of this key step into modernity, the Natural Law/Rights thread and track. Their growth and consciousness and practice has been stunted, they are "arrested development", deficient, explicitly for want of this one exact key bit, they are "behind" by many many many centuries.

One last time-saver you must by apprised of. Since c.1980, the Catholics (God damn them for this)  have utterly and thoroughly desecrated this Holy-of-Holys, humankind's most sacred birth-right, that of Natural Law and it's recorded history on this planet. They have perpetrated this crime-upon-humanity Actively but deceptively, deceitfully, by subterfuge, in a last ditch effort to justify their Medieval Doctrine and Dogma. Since 1980, when few were looking, they have flooded the market place, deliberately poisoning the well for all future generations, with literally thousands of new book titles containing the words Natural Law (or sometimes New Natural Law). An unsuspecting learner and buyer would have no clue by cover and title alone the fraud that awaits them. Solution, be very cautious and leary, suspect until proven otherwise, of any title with a 1st ed pub date after 1980. [Your enemy is the Grisez, Finnis, George, Boyle, Budziszewski, crew and legions of copy-cats.]  There are, however, a small number of recent must have and respectable titles by the likes of e.g. Brian Tierney, Richard Tuck, and others (Historians)

Natural Law
@ Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law

Natural Rights  (compare human Legislated or Legal,  Statutory, Civil, Juridical, etc)
@Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_and_legal_rights

Human Rights
@ Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights

All I was saying is that you tend to be verbose, maybe the choice of the word diatribe was a mistake.

#homelesslivesmatter

[Meister_000]

Meister_000, meet SredniVashtar.

10 round match for the title.

No hitting below the belt and no gouging of eyes.

Begin...

#homelesslivesmatter

Maybe some day, or later (and the though did make me smile, or at least the Hashtag did  ) But honestly, I am just now going off to bed. I'm only up now because I felt a reply was needed to your last post about me (Gravity).  I truly don't enjoy having to be the one to confront people on the matter of homelessness, but I do in all honesty take it to by a matter of Duty (seriously). If there was a way or place to discuss it in some kind of productive manner I might be willing to do that. But, I am fairly exhausted from the last 6 or 7 weeks of crap that's gone on here, and I can not fight off ten people at once any more (when I was younger perhaps.) I can't and won't be rushed, pressured, and run ragged, particularly when there is no defensible argument _ for_ homelessness in this day and age.  I get very exasperated and short tempered that I should even _need_ to explain the obvious.
Anyhow, we'll see what developes. (and now I have to spend 10 mins checking my spelling befor posting this and then hopefully finally getting off to bed.)  BTW, I have to hen-peck with a stylus on my cell phone every single thing I write here. That's a lot if pecking!

[GravitySucks]

Maybe some day, or later (and the though did make me smile, or at least the Hashtag did  ) But honestly, I am just now going off to bed. I'm only up now because I felt a reply was needed to your last post about me (Gravity).  I truly don't enjoy having to be the one to confront people on the matter of homelessness, but I do in all honesty take it to by a matter of Duty (seriously). If there was a way or place to discuss it in some kind of productive manner I might be willing to do that. But, I am fairly exhausted from the last 6 or 7 weeks of crap that's gone on here, and I can not fight off ten people at once any more (when I was younger perhaps.) I can't and won't be rushed, pressured, and run ragged, particularly when there is no defensible argument _ for_ homelessness in this day and age.  I get very exasperated and short tempered that I should even _need_ to explain the obvious.
Anyhow, we'll see what developes. (and now I have to spend 10 mins checking my spelling befor posting this and then hopefully finally getting off to bed.)  BTW, I have to hen-peck with a stylus on my cell phone every single thing I write here. That's a lot if pecking!

Peace Bro

[Meister_000]

Exhibit C

All I was saying is that you tend to be verbose, maybe the choice of the word diatribe was a mistake.

#homelesslivesmatter

Yes, the word diatribe makes all the difference. I am old school. I cut my teeth on Usenet. Real people using real names and actually wanting to learn things. I don't know how to do things differently.

[Lilith]

Peace Bro

Oh Gawd!  I LOVE happy endings! 

Praise MV!

[Meister_000]

Peace Bro

Alrighty, thanks. Peace to you as well.

[Meister_000]

Oh Gawd!  I LOVE happy endings! 

And Hi Brig, kiss if you'll accept it.

[Meister_000]

No, he isn't Art. This sort of thing goes on a lot, with people fingering posters as one sock puppet or another. In some cases it might well be the case, but not this time.

And thanks SV for that.

[Lilith]

And Hi Brig, kiss if you'll accept it.

AND
((((((HUG))))))

[Meister_000]

AND
((((((HUG))))))

Now I can sleep well 

[GravitySucks]

Oh Gawd!  I LOVE happy endings! 

Praise MV!

Yep. Me too. Meister's heart is in the right place.

Praise MV

[starrmtn001]

Grate Scott!

That is terrible. 

To quote my veterinarian when I brought my newly adopted "three-month old" puppy home from the rescue shelter, after he declared the poor pup to be not much older than six weeks:

"That's criminal!"

An ego, nor a pup nor kitten should be altered so young!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IHadByMvXk

Oh dear, sweet, Pate.  I was speaking in hyperbole.  I didn't even have an ego when I was a kitten.