Art Bell

[albrecht]

isn't that one of the ones recommended on is FAQ page??

Yep. I really think CCrane and Art should make/advertise an "Art Special" radio, even if it is a radio that already exists. Something along the lines of the old Pogo he sold but with WiFi and, ideally, 4G, and SW also. Record, XD Card for added storage, presets with a way to default to best option available and recording settings and RSS podcast download automatically. Even the phone# listening option if that is best signal strength. With the little speaker in addition to outputs for headphones and maybe a built-in blue-tooth and even FM transmitter for broadcasting locally. And good, added option, of SW antenna to string up for signal, if needed.

[Heather Wade]

I think it depends on the type of science.  This one could be interesting.  Or others in the field of Neuroscience, a field of changing paradigms still wide open for discovery.

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Hood_%28psychologist%29

Also climate scientists.  It's too bad most intelligent discussions on this subject are marred by politics.

I'd dig conversations on any interesting topic that aren't marred by politics or The damned Secret.  Just one humble BellGabber's 2 cents.

[Zenman]

and another thing, I don't like guests that know they are full of it. Everyone loves the Mel's Hole guy. If I wasn't such a pacifist I would punch him in the nose. In fact I want to be like the guy from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged who has made it a mission to insult every being in the universe, except I just want to punch in the nose everyone who is full of it and wants people to believe their crap. I like listening to people that have alternative ideas and believe them. I liked "mad man" Marcum, I liked Father Malachi, GIS, and tons of others, they believe what they are saying, even the guy that wanted to fly into a hole in the north pole to live with the creatures living inside the earth.

I'm the same way, but don't you have to admit that Mel's story had so many fascinating aspects to it that you really wanted to believe it whether you really thought it was true or not? I was hooked when the gov't agents started showing up and sealing off the property. No, actually I was hooked when he first reported dropping the fishline and sinker down the hole and he kept running out of line, never hitting bottom.

btw, did Mel not eventually wash up on some beach after an absence of several years reporting that he had no memory of what had happened and that all his teeth had been pulled out? (Or did Zenman just hallucinate that as a vivid dream after too much jasmine tea?)

[ge30542]

Yep. I really think CCrane and Art should make/advertise an "Art Special" radio, even if it is a radio that already exists. Something along the lines of the old Pogo he sold but with WiFi and, ideally, 4G, and SW also. Record, XD Card for added storage, presets with a way to default to best option available and recording settings and RSS podcast download automatically. Even the phone# listening option if that is best signal strength. With the little speaker in addition to outputs for headphones and maybe a built-in blue-tooth and even FM transmitter for broadcasting locally. And good, added option, of SW antenna to string up for signal, if needed.

What he said.

[inuk2600]

Art has spoken - its covered in the ArtBell.com FAQ already:

Q. Can I use an Internet radio?
A: If you would like a dedicated device to play Internet radio, there are a couple choices out there. Look for the CC-WiFi or CC-Wifi 2 from C.Crane. Use promo code “Dark Matter” or “Art Bell” to get a special gift and give us a credit.

The esthetics of the CC Wifi 2 are nice.  But for an Art Bell Edition they could really up the quality game with Cherry Wood enclosure and real vacuum tubes (with a port to watch them glow) driving two speakers stereo instead of just one.
It would be like a blend of these two...



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[Art Bell]

People are funny, they either love or hate something like Mel's hole, But they sure do remember it a Decade later. The good ones evoke strong emotions of one kind or another. One thing for sure, you only get that sort of thing in open lines because it would never make it past a Producer or for that matter a call screener. Not everything has to make it past the cold reality test, what fun would that be? If that is what you want try PBS.

Art

[chefist]

People are funny, they either love or hate something like Mel's hole, But they sure do remember it a Decade later. The good ones evoke strong emotions of one kind or another. One thing for sure, you only get that sort of thing in open lines because it would never make it past a Producer or for that matter a call screener. Not everything has to make it past the cold reality test, what fun would that be? If that is what you want try PBS.

Art

Said perfectly Art! As a chemist I know I would bore people to death talking about my work!

[maureen]

People are funny, they either love or hate something like Mel's hole, But they sure do remember it a Decade later. The good ones evoke strong emotions of one kind or another. One thing for sure, you only get that sort of thing in open lines because it would never make it past a Producer or for that matter a call screener. Not everything has to make it past the cold reality test, what fun would that be? If that is what you want try PBS.

Art

Serendipitous wonder, having a huge question mark as one's guide, embracing the magistral unknown, and having ludic joy in all one does- these are why I admire you. Those who cling to cold reality are terrified to have their comfortable answers upset. The unknown terrifies them.

[zeebo]

Serendipitous wonder, having a huge question mark as one's guide, embracing the magistral unknown, and having ludic joy in all one does- these are why I admire you. Those who cling to cold reality are terrified to have their comfortable answers upset. The unknown terrifies them.

But for us Bell-nauts, the unknown is our calling.   We shall follow you Art, to whichever realms you roam. 

[Heather Wade]

But for us Bell-nauts, the unknown is our calling.   We shall follow you Art, to whichever realms you roam. 

The weirder, the better.

[b_dubb]

But for us Bell-nauts, the unknown is our calling.   We shall follow you Art, to whichever realms you roam. 

Someone needs to design some headgear for us Bell-nauts. Made of tin foil preferably.

[phrodo]

Someone needs to design some headgear for us Bell-nauts. Made of tin foil preferably.

Why is it called tin foil - when all the foil you can buy these days is made out of aluminum?

[The General]

I loved the Mel's hole story and I totally believed it until he came on the second time and started talking about inter dimensional sea otters and time travelling Nazi's.  Once the time travelling Nazi's or paranormal aquatic life come out, that's when I usually call bullshit.

[Heather Wade]

Yeah, but I loved Art's reaction to the inter dimensional sea otter.

[zeebo]

Yeah, but I loved Art's reaction to the inter dimensional sea otter.

Sea otters are already so cool, having interdimensional ones just kicks the awesome up a notch.

[MV/Liberace!]

hey, it's a friday night and bellgab didn't go down! 

yay.

[The General]

Yeah, but I loved Art's reaction to the inter dimensional sea otter.

Oh, I loved every minute of it.
I just didn't believe it anymore.

[The General]

hey, it's a friday night and bellgab didn't go down! 

yay.

yet

[MV/Liberace!]

yet

negative nancy.

[The General]

heh.

Hey, remember when Art was obsessed with dumb blonde jokes for weeks and told new ones every night?
Probably 98-ish.

Them were the days by golly.

[Nick el Ass]

hey, it's a friday night and bellgab didn't go down! 

yay.

Party time.

[Heather Wade]

heh.

Hey, remember when Art was obsessed with dumb blonde jokes for weeks and told new ones every night?
Probably 98-ish.

Them were the days by golly.

Ah tell yeeww whaut.

[Nick el Ass]

heh.

Hey, remember when Art was obsessed with dumb blonde jokes for weeks and told new ones every night?
Probably 98-ish.

Them were the days by golly.

Spikes on shoulder pads, and mirrors on the bottom of the pool.

[Roswells, Art]

People are funny, they either love or hate something like Mel's hole, But they sure do remember it a Decade later. The good ones evoke strong emotions of one kind or another. One thing for sure, you only get that sort of thing in open lines because it would never make it past a Producer or for that matter a call screener. Not everything has to make it past the cold reality test, what fun would that be? If that is what you want try PBS.

Art

OK OK, maybe I was a bit harsh. It was still a very good show.

[Roswells, Art]

I loved the Mel's hole story and I totally believed it until he came on the second time and started talking about inter dimensional sea otters and time travelling Nazi's.  Once the time travelling Nazi's or paranormal aquatic life come out, that's when I usually call bullshit.

By the way, that paranormal aquatic life cured cancer too. It's really too bad it jumped back down into a bottomless hole.

[ks3484]

Art, do you still advocate for conceal carry laws?

[MABUSE]

Original denizen, long absent...
think of me now as a comet on a random elliptical orbit...
Art gave space to possibility, not credence to dogma or ideology, per se, but space...
Twenty years later those heady days of wildness STILL resonate and THAT says volumes about the man
and what he gave life to, possibility.
The peculiarity of human existence and perception which resonates so vibrantly in this entire desire to have him back and recapture
what so magically occurred during his aegis may, in fact say more about us and our desire for that magic than about, him, a priori.
What he stood for seemed to be the infinite of the possible, against the societal limitations of the acceptably reasonable.
A counter-culture of reasonable doubt of accepted perception-by-revealed-diktat.
And, given the current and  much more all-invasive, non-stop, media guerre a outrance against perception heresy, the Art nostalgia becomes all-that-much-more-justified.
Our beloved Art sits in a unique position, given technology and its concomitant effects on the speed of history:
He has become a profoundly admired and fondly remembered nostalgic and prophetic touchstone of the past, and, through the alchemical speed of technology and perception of history, an eagerly anticipated messiah of wisdom whose return is awaited breathlessly...and he has achieved both in one lifetime.  THAT, my friends, is some powerful goddamned magic-fu!

[ks3484]

I really don't know if it is a good thing. Things like this hampers, not help, the disclosure movement. I think that what they are saying to, and about him - they are saying; by extension or/and association, to all who are interested in UFOlogy. They are calling all UFOologists NUTS!...

"Delete. Short of being the son of someone famous and being a complete nut, I don't see anything notable about him."*

*Wikipedia: Articles for deletion/John Lear

Ya know, it occurred to me that John Lear would probably prevail if he pursued a defamation case against Wikipedia because of what they have written, and the way that they have written about him. 

Hmmm. I think that I'll contact him to see what he thinks about it.   





Defamation, Libel & Slander

Defamation is an area of law that provides a civil remedy when someone's words end up causing harm to your reputation or your livelihood. Libel is a written or published defamatory statement, while slander is defamation that is spoken by the defendant. In this section, we'll explain what you need to prove if you're bringing a defamation lawsuit, and what to expect at each step of your case, including common defenses to a defamation claim. 

[ks3484]

Definitely some interesting stuff I came across on John Lear's sight. Art, this is probably something you would have talked about on Coast MITD with Seth Shostack, or even with John Lear himself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-MMn9SZkA



• Winged Unidentified Alien Objects seen next to the Sun

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Ya know, it occurred to me that John Lear would probably prevail if he pursued a defamation case against Wikipedia because of what they have written, and the way that they have written about him. 

Hmmm. I think that I'll contact him to see what he thinks about it.   

That sounds like a pretty solid case.
Don't waste time on this website, go out and get that lawsuit done.