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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 10:21:45 PM

b_dubb

Here's my two cents ... adjusted for inflation I think you wind up owing me money but never mind ... about Art and Sirius and Coast.  And Noory. Sure let's throw that asshole in the mix. 

Sirius wanted to add Coast to their roster but didn't want to pay them their asking price.  So they sign Art and that gives them some leverage in the negotiation.  Sirius can say "we'd love to have Coast come aboard but we already have Art".  Now Sirius can get Coast for little or nothing.  Art was an after thought. 

I'm not saying that I KNOW this is a fact.  This is just speculation.  Like 99% of this site.

Carry on.

wr250

Quote from: b_dubb on March 03, 2014, 02:28:07 PM
Here's my two cents ... adjusted for inflation I think you wind up owing me money but never mind ... about Art and Sirius and Coast.  And Noory. Sure let's throw that asshole in the mix. 

Sirius wanted to add Coast to their roster but didn't want to pay them their asking price.  So they sign Art and that gives them some leverage in the negotiation.  Sirius can say "we'd love to have Coast come aboard but we already have Art".  Now Sirius can get Coast for little or nothing.  Art was an after thought. 

I'm not saying that I KNOW this is a fact.  This is just speculation.  Like 99% of this site.

Carry on.

fixed it for you ?

onan

I know for a fact that Sirius dumped c2c last ~Aug-Sept. And Sirius had been cleaning house for sometime prior to that.

My guess is c2c was a backup/booty call if Art didn't work out.

jazmunda

Quote from: onan on March 03, 2014, 03:16:12 PM
I know for a fact that Sirius dumped c2c last ~Aug-Sept. And Sirius had been cleaning house for sometime prior to that.

My guess is c2c was a backup/booty call if Art didn't work out.

Agreed. I don't think there was anything nefarious going on with C2CAM and Sirius. Sure C2CAM wanted Art to fail but I don't think they had a hand in it. If Art didn't walk we'd still be listening to Dark Matter for 4 hours a night now and C2CAM would probably not be on Channel 104 on Sirius.

So is anybody else finally easing back in to listening to old Art shows?  Taken me a while but I just listened to my first full show since November, the Officer X show posted elsewhere on the board.

jazmunda

Quote from: TheMan WhoFell ToEarth on March 03, 2014, 09:11:01 PM
So is anybody else finally easing back in to listening to old Art shows?  Taken me a while but I just listened to my first full show since November, the Officer X show posted elsewhere on the board.

I'm back to my daily listening routine. I mentioned on the GabCast that for the first few months after Art's departure I couldn't bring myself to listening to his classic shows and likened it to breaking up with a girlfriend and then not being able to listen to "our song" or look at photos of happier times. As they say "time heals all wounds" and like some abused spouse I am back for more. This time will be different. He's changed.

I just finished listening to the Captain Crunch show.

I had kinda likened it to the same thing, I've been building a small list of shows I'd wanted to listen to, time to dig in I guess.

Lunger

Quote from: TheMan WhoFell ToEarth on March 03, 2014, 09:11:01 PM
So is anybody else finally easing back in to listening to old Art shows?  Taken me a while but I just listened to my first full show since November, the Officer X show posted elsewhere on the board.

I am working my way through all of Ed Dames' appearances now.

And, you know, Art is such a shill for these guys. Dames, Hoagland, Scallion, Morton, et al.... Art shills for them all, especially Dames.  I can't see where Ed has actually RV'd anything correctly and when a caller will challenge Ed, Art is there backing him up and outright lying sometimes. 

It all goes back to my Radio Play theory.

wr250

Quote from: Lunger on March 04, 2014, 08:13:25 AM
I am working my way through all of Ed Dames' appearances now.

And, you know, Art is such a shill for these guys. Dames, Hoagland, Scallion, Morton, et al.... Art shills for them all, especially Dames.  I can't see where Ed has actually RV'd anything correctly and when a caller will challenge Ed, Art is there backing him up and outright lying sometimes. 

It all goes back to my Radio Play theory.

i like ed dames. cause i know that if dames says "Art Bell shall not return to radio" i know art will be back soon.

ItsOver

RV must mean reverse viewing since Dames is never right.

dan7800

Quote from: Lunger on March 04, 2014, 08:13:25 AM
I am working my way through all of Ed Dames' appearances now.

And, you know, Art is such a shill for these guys. Dames, Hoagland, Scallion, Morton, et al.... Art shills for them all, especially Dames.  I can't see where Ed has actually RV'd anything correctly and when a caller will challenge Ed, Art is there backing him up and outright lying sometimes. 

It all goes back to my Radio Play theory.

Why do you waste your time listening to that garbage. They are the worst guests ever.

jazmunda

Quote from: dan7800 on March 04, 2014, 12:48:10 PM
Why do you waste your time listening to that garbage. They are the worst guests ever.

There is a certain sport or theatre to it. It's sometimes nice to listen just to see how wrong and far off they were with their predictions. The most frustrating thing is that Art never kept score.

bateman

Listened to Stan Deyo's first appearance from '95 last night. Not bad.

wr250

Quote from: bateman on March 04, 2014, 01:19:32 PM
Listened to Stan Deyo's first appearance from '95 last night. Not bad.

stan still makes regular appearances , but tends to get off on religious tangents. he is weekely on "the hagman report"

Uncle Duke

Quote from: ItsOver on March 04, 2014, 08:48:12 AM
RV must mean reverse viewing since Dames is never right.

Dames is pretty much is a "put up or shut up" mode now, however.  When he was on with George a week or so ago, he said 2014 was the year he'd been pointing to all these years.  Financial collapse, large scale civil unrest, the government killing Americans with all those billions of round of ammo they've been buying, etc.   If come 1 Jan 2015 the US isn't in total meltdown, it's going to be impossible for him (or his shills) to talk his way of those predictions.

If he's wrong (and I'd bet a dollar he is), I look for him to pull a "Kathleen Keating" and just fade away from his public personna. 


Quote from: Uncle Duke on March 04, 2014, 01:37:47 PM
Dames is pretty much is a "put up or shut up" mode now, however.  When he was on with George a week or so ago, he said 2014 was the year he'd been pointing to all these years.  Financial collapse, large scale civil unrest, the government killing Americans with all those billions of round of ammo they've been buying, etc.   If come 1 Jan 2015 the US isn't in total meltdown, it's going to be impossible for him (or his shills) to talk his way of those predictions.

If he's wrong (and I'd bet a dollar he is), I look for him to pull a "Kathleen Keating" and just fade away from his public personna.

I 100% disagree with you my friend. There is a reason he is called ED "no Shame" Dames.

Dames has made countless failed predictions. Dames Claimed Hale-Bopp UFO would bring fungus spores that would destroy planet in 1998. In 1993 Aliens were supposed to make themselves known in the desert. 1997 north Korean launch of a nuke to south.  ETC ETC ETC.

You see Dames has no problem with letting dates pass by, without predicted events. He resurfaces a couple months later with a new outrageous claim. Right now its a "killshot", in 2015 it will be an asteriod or something else. Failed prediction have not, and never will slow down Dames. Also even with all his failed predictions, Noory and company keep putting him on. There is still a market for him no matter how many failed predictions he makes.

jazmunda

Dames also liked to throw out that the dates can be hard to pin down sometimes and if an event passes he uses that excuse and says that it still might happen. At times Art would also justified his fails with this line

George Drooly

Quote from: jazmunda on March 04, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
Dames also liked to throw out that the dates can be hard to pin down sometimes

Especially if they're not of the mail-order variety

jazmunda

Quote from: George Drooly on March 04, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
Especially if they're not of the mail-order variety

You can either choose this:

http://youtu.be/bcYppAs6ZdI

or this:

http://youtu.be/HChzRB8h6LU

to accompany that zinger.

Uncle Duke

Quote from: nooryisawesome on March 04, 2014, 02:15:53 PM
I 100% disagree with you my friend. There is a reason he is called ED "no Shame" Dames.

Dames has made countless failed predictions. Dames Claimed Hale-Bopp UFO would bring fungus spores that would destroy planet in 1998. In 1993 Aliens were supposed to make themselves known in the desert. 1997 north Korean launch of a nuke to south.  ETC ETC ETC.

You see Dames has no problem with letting dates pass by, without predicted events. He resurfaces a couple months later with a new outrageous claim. Right now its a "killshot", in 2015 it will be an asteriod or something else. Failed prediction have not, and never will slow down Dames. Also even with all his failed predictions, Noory and company keep putting him on. There is still a market for him no matter how many failed predictions he makes.

Dames has made many predictions that have not come to pass, but he's always quick to point out they haven't happened "yet" when asked about them.  I've heard him say many times RV cannot put specific dates or even deadlines with predicted events, but rather see things only in a time line of events.  Kill Shot?  Nope, not yet, but before it happens we'll see the NKs nuke somebody and the space shuttle get taken out by a meteor. 

It's his refusal to pin himself down to a date/deadline that has given him legs, he's never wrong...... YET.  This past week was the first time I ever heard him do that.  Not saying he hasn't, just that he says he can't/won't and that I cannot remember hearing him do so.  The exact opposite was true of Kathleen Keating, she of the dated religious predictions that came and went without anything happening.  As a result, she dropped out of public life in relative disgrace.  Dames has been too smart for that up to now.  There is no going back for him at this point, however.

wr250

Quote from: Uncle Duke on March 04, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
Dames has made many predictions that have not come to pass, but he's always quick to point out they haven't happened "yet" when asked about them.  I've heard him say many times RV cannot put specific dates or even deadlines with predicted events, but rather see things only in a time line of events.  Kill Shot?  Nope, not yet, but before it happens we'll see the NKs nuke somebody and the space shuttle get taken out by a meteor. 

It's his refusal to pin himself down to a date/deadline that has given him legs, he's never wrong...... YET.  This past week was the first time I ever heard him do that.  Not saying he hasn't, just that he says he can't/won't and that I cannot remember hearing him do so.  The exact opposite was true of Kathleen Keating, she of the dated religious predictions that came and went without anything happening.  As a result, she dropped out of public life in relative disgrace.  Dames has been too smart for that up to now.  There is no going back for him at this point, however.

in a alternate timeline (aka michio kaku) all of these things have happened.so ed was right after all lol

ItsOver

Quote from: wr250 on March 04, 2014, 03:48:50 PM
in a alternate timeline (aka michio kaku) all of these things have happened.so ed was right after all lol
Could be.  Noory would suck in any timeline, though.

jazmunda

Quote from: ItsOver on March 04, 2014, 04:32:16 PM
Could be.  Noory would suck in any timeline, though.

It's the one constant that binds all the universes. Without it the whole thing would implode and then explode leaving trace particles of feces, pizza rolls, a mustache comb and some jet black shoe polish.

onan

Quote from: ItsOver on March 04, 2014, 04:32:16 PM
Could be.  Noory would suck in any timeline, though.

Could it be? The multiverse of noory suckage created the initial singularity? OMG!!

ItsOver

Quote from: jazmunda on March 04, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
It's the one constant that binds all the universes. Without it the whole thing would implode and then explode leaving trace particles of feces, pizza rolls, a mustache comb and some jet black shoe polish.

"The Suckage is strong with this one."

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Quote from: Uncle Duke on March 04, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
Dames has made many predictions that have not come to pass, but he's always quick to point out they haven't happened "yet" when asked about them.  I've heard him say many times RV cannot put specific dates or even deadlines with predicted events, but rather see things only in a time line of events.  Kill Shot?  Nope, not yet, but before it happens we'll see the NKs nuke somebody and the space shuttle get taken out by a meteor. 

It's his refusal to pin himself down to a date/deadline that has given him legs, he's never wrong...... YET.  This past week was the first time I ever heard him do that.  Not saying he hasn't, just that he says he can't/won't and that I cannot remember hearing him do so.  The exact opposite was true of Kathleen Keating, she of the dated religious predictions that came and went without anything happening.  As a result, she dropped out of public life in relative disgrace.  Dames has been too smart for that up to now.  There is no going back for him at this point, however.

He has used dates before. Nothing new, always wrong.

He declared n korea would nuke S korea before  that winter 15 years ago.

My personal favorite was his claim he could only see darkness past 2012, end of world.

There is more but I'm to lazy to type it.

Nooron will keep putting him on so long burns time. Also dames is a easy interview for lazy george.

Keeting apparently had humility, there is no shame in dames.

It's a lot like doomsday pastors who are wrong, and claim they just had the wrong date.  Except I don't think Dames would ever bother excusing his lies, he'd just move on to some new ones.

Quote from: TheMan WhoFell ToEarth on March 05, 2014, 08:03:53 AM
It's a lot like doomsday pastors who are wrong, and claim they just had the wrong date.  Except I don't think Dames would ever bother excusing his lies, he'd just move on to some new ones.

Yes, he track record is exactly that. Although he will occasionally call a hit, on something that is vaguely related but not as he predicted.

I.E. A disease that would wipe out mankind which originated from hale bopp. Dames claimed a African crop disease which has been there over 150 years as a HIT. Obviously, he was flat out wrong, but he will never admit it.

Then there is all his lies on missing kids. He says he has worked with families of missing kids only to have there parents say they never even heard of him. That upsets my that dames exploits missing kids for recognition. 

Dames has been caught in lies over and over. Passed time tables again and again, yet Noory keeps booking him.


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