George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[PB the Deplorable]

This is the most complete and entertaining retelling of George's forum dealings I've read to date.  Thanks Lonevoice

Yes. I'd only heard snippets of it before

[PB the Deplorable]

... Well, when Jorch would fight with his critics, his posts read exactly like an Edward G. Robinson character.  He really liked to use the words "bub" and "pal" and his favorite retort was to brag about how he was making millions of dollars and whoever he was posting to was a nobody, a loser living in a basement...

That's George for sure, I've gotten a few replies to what were at the time well meaning emails to him and that's exactly how he responds.  Fine with me.

[PB the Deplorable]

Idiot Jorch gets math wrong this time. The Gangnam Style song was Youtube's first video with one billion views, not million.  :

George doesn't really think about what he's saying or care anyway.  Most people who said 'millions' but meant 'billions' would realize it was a meaningful error and correct it, but to George it's all the same - anything over a few thousand is just 'uh lot'.

[Morgus]

I was listening to C2C Somewhere in time with Art Bell last night, the topic was Mayan Prophesy and I recall that the guest said the end of the Mayan cycle is actually Dec 23,2012.

one of Noory's guests on the show last  night, Graham Hancock, commented on that issue but sided with the Dec 21 date since it was the winter solstice which was very important to the Mayans.

[CrabbyOld Bat]

Rats. I forgot John B. Wells in on tonight. He's just a hair better than Snorge. If he didn't focus so much on maintaining a deep monotone voice he'd be two or three hairs better than Snorge -- which ain't sayin' much.

Ah well, George Knapp is on tomorrow night and he's the best host by far, IMO.

[michio]

that was Noory's dream show, the easiest job for him ever since he only had to interview each guest for a few minutes and could ask each one the exact same couple questions and make the same exact comments to each.
it was a like twenty Noory reruns in one night... 

The doomsday program was "a disaster of biblical proportions." Even Nostradamus couldn't have predicted so much suckage in so few hours.

[At the stroke of midnight]

I made it through whole show last night, even UFO Phil, without vomiting. I have to admit though, I turned off the Numbers Lazy. Jorch kept asking the question: "why are people all over the world so whacked out about this date?" Gee George, could it have anything to do with the fact that you and the C2C 2012 gravy-train riders have been shamelessly pushing this, non-stop for ten years, that Art pushed it for ten years before that (except he harped on Y2K more) and for 20 years before that others were pushing it? (although in the early days of the Mayan Calendar scam, they tossed around a couple of different years). Hoaxland actually surprised me, with the rabbit he pulled out of his hat. I really didn't think he could come up with anything more entertaining than what he has already given us.

[Immy]

Amidst all the backpeddling yesterday was a little gem of a putdown that I forgot to mention.

Ed Dames called Fukushima the "greatest manmade disaster in history" which Mike Bara slapped down in his segment right afterwards: "Fukushima is the worst? Seriously? WWII killed 45 million people." 

Of course Jorch, ever the fence-straddler, didn't comment either way.

[mombird3]

I remember Art Bell talking about 2012 and the Mayan calandar. But you reminded me that y2k was a big nothing. We were afraid our new computer and the whole system would go out. And of course it did not. People went out and bought electric generators for that. The only people who made out were the places that sold those things.

C2C  show is old stuff now. There is nothing new here any longer. Why listen? It is a rerun of old stuff gone bad. Stale. They should hang it up. End it because it is dying slowly.

[thefamilyghost]

Amidst all the backpeddling yesterday was a little gem of a putdown that I forgot to mention.

Ed Dames called Fukushima the "greatest manmade disaster in history" which Mike Bara slapped down in his segment right afterwards: "Fukushima is the worst? Seriously? WWII killed 45 million people." 

Of course Jorch, ever the fence-straddler, didn't comment either way.

George is the ultimate fence-straddler. He can't help but sit on the fence about things. He's like...paint 

[rangers1919]

harvard law disagrees with your statement entirely.


http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

Harvard Law didn't provide a stance that I've seen. They published an article by two people unrelated to Harvard. One of them works at a relatively minor, joke libertarian think tank; both of them have been accused of being dishonest due largely to the article you posted. They've also been called gun-nuts, but I don't think that is as relevant. They rely on data that can be called blatantly falsified, like the one source they used for the Soviet Union crime rates, saying they trusted him because he wasn't engaged in a conspiracy theory to lower crime rates.

But, you can look at Mauser's work using the same data and see that he is a fraud, or incompetent. IN the paper you cite right off the bat you can see that the chart on page 652 cites a Canadian source stating that the murder rate in Luxemborg is listed as 9.01, this is wrong. He could argue that it was a mistake, but he goes on to repeatedly cite this high murder rate in Luxemborg as a key example. In reality this was a decimal point error. The murder rate in Luxemborg was 0.90. Making an error by putting it into the table incorrectly would be one thing, but it doesn't even make sense superficially (unless you are in a fantasy world) and looking at other data confirms this. Of course he uses it as if it were true.

This may not be his fault though, since it was provided incorrectly in the data from a Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics release (pg3)(although they do have other releases where it is released correctly). It is up to the researcher to look into the data they cite when it clearly doesn't make sense, and they didn't do this, so they are ultimately at fault. This entire paper is littered with basic errors like this that eliminate any credibility it may have had. This study should never have been published.

http://publications.gc.ca/collections/Collection-R/Statcan/85-002-XIE/0080385-002-XIE.pdf?

Mauser later uses the correct data when he released another pro-gun study (that's literally all he does), so he apparently got enough heat to change his data, but apparently not the calculations.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedFiles/fraser-ca/Content/research-news/research/articles/international-evidence-on-gun-bans-and-murder-rates.pdf

On top of that there have been constant claims that Mauser has cherry-picked his data, on top of cherry-picking data, to find the most favorable rates. He does not use the same years for violence in his papers, nor does he use multiple years. The correct way to do this study would probably be to also look at multiple years and to use a fixed-effects regression to control for factors like different cultures.

The entire basis of their study is flawed though, the study I provided compares different places in the US; their study compares entirely different nations with entirely different rules, levels of police funding, etc. They are not even really comparable for this context if you are trying to show what the results would be in the US.

I don't think decreasing guns in the US would eliminate violence, but it would eliminate mass killings. Really there is no way to decrease violence in the US anytime soon. We have too many people who think that extreme paranoia is an acceptable state of mind, and people in the US are in love with violence.

Listen to C2C and the moron host, when there are stories about violence he covers it in depth, especially if it happened to a child; when there is a story about sex he gets squeamish and blows by it, as if one is ok and the other isn't (but the wrong way).

There are decent gun studies out there, but most of them show that fewer guns lead to fewer violence.

Also, stating that "Harvard disagrees" with the study I presented is potentially disingenuous, but I give you the benefit of the doubt in this case. The journal that this was published in, The Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, is a student run journal (which isn't necessarily bad, they have the Law Review, and some great business reviews, etc.) aimed at publishing libertarian and conservative articles. This is the type of article that gets published there solely based on the philosophy it follows instead of based on the rigor of the work or the actual methodology used in the study.

The Penn study is far more rigourous, and far more legitimate as a scholarly work, IMO. Also, it was published in a more legitimate article, and not done by ideological hacks.

[CrabbyOld Bat]

Bravo, rangers1919. 

[Sardondi]

Why is this stuff in the Compendium?

[dlawlis]

The C2C Facebook page just posted this from sNoory's new TV show. It's painful to watch. George actually barks like a dog.




I don't know how to post videos on this board so here's the link.


http://www.coasttocoastam.com/videos/?uri=channels/455278/1705732

I love how the expression in those dead eyes of his doesn't change at all when he's barking.

[CrabbyOld Bat]

Has Snorge ever admitted to having a facelift and hair transplants?   

[Sardondi]

That's not cosmetic surgery...it's angels.

[Morgus]

Has Snorge ever admitted to having a facelift and hair transplants?   

of course not.
Noory would only claim its all due to his regimen of turmeric and hundreds of other daily supplements and vitamins he takes...

[Sardondi]

...plus the p90x workouts that George did for 2-3 days....

[thefamilyghost]

George doing a CCrane ad spot on tonight's show: "Weather is not always predictable..."

[Juan]

I think those two photos are the result of his hair being combed forward in the second, rather than back, and lighting from above in the second, rather than straight on in the first.  Obviously the second was taken by a professional photographer after a professional makeup person worked on him.

[PB the Deplorable]

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[DAE]

That's it.... I'm going to start rubbing some turmeric into my thinning hair.  Hopefully I will gain a nice thick glossy dew like George.

Being an old Conan O'Brien fan, I went on the web last night to see if he is still on tv. I lost track after the Tonight Show wars.  I came across his original/first talk show host appearance on YouTube, back when he was in New York.  It's funny, with all sorts of media personalities they almost usually get better over time.  Rusty at first, the refined later.  It's remarkable how George Noory actually went downhill.  Or, the current day Noory is NO DIFFERENT than the Noory I heard 10 years ago on his debut show.  Truly a moron.  You really have to be an idiot to never improve over age.  I would even assume that without conscious choice a person will be forced to improve over time due to the sheer learning of all the topics.  But last spring I heard Noory with Dames and Noory was STILL confused as to what remote viewing was, about 10 years into his hosting the show. 

His "million" YouTube hits goof-up sums it up:  It's fine to make a mistake, but George Noory didn't even clue in to his mistake and thus never corrected himself.  That is how sluggish and moronic his brain works. 

I assume his brain synapsis vanished during one of his treks through the Bermuda Triangle back in his Navy days where he worked as the napkin folder boy in the kitchen.

[McPhallus]

There's one picture where he's leaning forward a bit, and you can definitely tell he has pretty substantial frontal thinning.  Stevesh actually saw him at the SL airport a couple of weeks ago without his hair hat.

Has Snorge ever admitted to having a facelift and hair transplants?   

[Juan]

Interesting, ads for sNoory's "TV" show are all over PJM blogs.

[Sardondi]

Interesting, ads for sNoory's "TV" show are all over PJM blogs.

?  "Pajamas Media", or something else?

[Juan]

Yes, they changed names to something more corporate  - PJM.

[astroguy]

I've talked a bit now with Michael Heiser.  He thinks that he keeps getting asked back, dispite disagreeing with George on most things, because he's nice about it but very clear.  And he also doesn't want to come on to talk about ancient aliens, but George always brings it up on every interview.

And, Mike's e-mailed Lisa recommending me as a guest.

[Morgus]

I think those two photos are the result of his hair being combed forward in the second, rather than back, and lighting from above in the second, rather than straight on in the first.  Obviously the second was taken by a professional photographer after a professional makeup person worked on him.

its also obvious that serious photoshopping was done to the image as well...

[Morgus]

I've talked a bit now with Michael Heiser.  He thinks that he keeps getting asked back, dispite disagreeing with George on most things, because he's nice about it but very clear.  And he also doesn't want to come on to talk about ancient aliens, but George always brings it up on every interview.

i seem to recall a few years back Hoagland and Heiser did a series of convention events together on the subject of "Gods & ETs" or something similar. 

[Morgus]

Noory's Christmas Eve special airs tonight with special guest Santa Claus live.
Its Captain Kangaroo Noory's show for all the kiddies listening...