George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[eddie dean]

Uh huh, pointing out stupidity is moral grandstanding. They tried to make a stupid trollish move. I called them on it. If you want to excuse flagrantly stupid moves, that's your call, but that's also a stupid move. Incidentally, how in the holy hell do you mount an equality of opinion argument in defense of people that wanted to stifle an opinion? I sure as fuck couldn't do that with a straight face.

I am not speaking for anyone but myself here and I am not excusing any bad behavior.  I am NOT trying to start a war with you or anyone because Internet pissing matches are pointless.
From  my POV.

Your post, that I replied to, reminded me of the many times that you've reprimanded us on how to properly interact with Gnoory. An example being: When asking a question to Jorch, be civil and respectful.  (Gathering more flies with honey than vinegar.) BTW, I agree with this philosophy.
It does not help ones cause to start off a conversation by saying: “FUCK YOU! Can I borrow a dollar?”

I just don't understand why you keep telling us about your particular brand of morality.
Over and over again, since the first week you signed up, inserting your moral superiority. Perhaps I have a ”Dad Lecture” intolerance, but your moral high ground refrain is getting old. Maybe you don't realize you are doing this, or you hope that if you say it enough times it will sink in someday and the Interweb will be a kinder, gentler place.

If you feel the need to be the moral police, or GNS hall monitor then have at it my friend.
There is plenty of work around here for such a guy. I just don't agree with the frequency of these posts.

Am I misjudging or misremembering here?
Also remember, I am not talking about every single post, but enough to catch my eye. You've had some funny and entertaining posts, but this moral aspect caught me wrong today, and I could not hold my tongue.

[SciFiAuthor]

Because you're wrong.   Art wasn't here to engage with Noory.  Art was here to leave a message for his fans.  He did so with a maturity and a dignity that Noory and friends aren't capable of understanding; but that's okay because Art doesn't actually care what they think of him anyway.  He never has.  Art's message was received by those for whom it was intended - which wasn't Dave Noorie, his minders, or his apologists.   In a way, it was a much longer version of the same messages Art used to leave around the internet after his 2002 retirement when Dave Noorie took over full-time hosting...

"Nothing is as it seems"

"Nothing and no one are as they seem"

"Never take rides with strangers"

Art closed both of his two posts last night with essentially the same words. 

There's no reason to think Art will be back in this thread, the odds are pretty much against that.  He usually says what he means and means what he says.  As to whether he'll post again in the Art Bell thread once "Dark Matters" is running smoothly, hard to say.  He does like to engage with his fans on the internet.  If that's where he thinks most of them are, maybe so.

Oh right, Art just popped in when Noory was here ranting just so he could talk to us and interact with us in the George Noory Sucks thread, instead of the Art Bell thread or FB. That does not wash.

Last night: No Noory = No Bell. Several people tried to end it before it got that far. That doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it does to you, but to me it looks like a warped bunch of horseshit.

I don't doubt Art has one hell of a problem with Premiere. I didn't mention anything about that, so I won't address it.   

[karios8]

Yessir. I am ex-military service member.

MOS?

[HaveAccess]

Everything is so personalized here....Id like to offer another hypothesis:

Suppose Noorys executive supervisor told him to have Oates.
Noory is not an original thinker or an original actor. He will do what he is told.  His staff tells him "no". He insists, knowing he is backed by Higher Ups.

These Higher Ups, dont care about ratings per se, or Noory, as much as their egos. All your letters there are wasted.

In a way whats going on here is PremRat saying "Ok, Art, if you are going to start your own program, we will do here what we please." Noory becomes only a fall guy.

And my guess is it wasnt "250" cancellations to "833" subscriptions. Think for a moment. It was "833" cancellations to "250" subscriptions. Look at the FB pages.

Ill believe some of the statistics about Noory. But considering that his program is bundled, that really skews the stats in his favor.

The contest will be AM indifference VS satellite provacative intelligence. What will make the real difference, in a sense, is if Art sells his programs on the web, real mass marketing, to a much broader audience, where again audience demand can be measured.

The day will come, when Noory pitches his pizza rolls, because there will be no sponsers left. Commerce..the bucks...Thats the vulnerable spot, and where your letters should be going.

[coaster]

A couple of you should probably go outside for some fresh air.

[Spinner]

I've started a new poll:

Should George apologize to Art Bell?
http://coastgab.com/index.php?topic=4575.0

Please vote and post your opinion.

[Roy Hinkley]

Yessir. I am ex-military service member. If I never served in the Army, then I would never be but a fraction of a man I am today. Maybe that's why I view things the way I do, I just don't know.
But I know what I like, and that man, does NOT have all of us in his best interests. But that is just my opinion, and I'm entitled to it, just as anyone else may be.

If anyone disagrees, I take it with a grain just as they should take my criticisms. Hey, that's just how life goes right? 
Thats what I love about this country. We still have the freedom to say what we want.... atleast for now.

Thanks for your service Foodlion! 

[Foodlion]

Thanks for your service Foodlion!

thank you sir, but I prefer to keep my service as a job, rather than a sacrifice. We got paychecks. Not mercenaries, but just hard working dedicated individuals committed to killing the enemy.

MOS?

13M MLRS FA

I take it you were in as well? I can't ID that vehicle on the picture, looks like the front of a Stryker. Those came out after I left service as did a lot. When I was in, we still had to shine our boots every day lol. Now a days, they have ACU. Heck, I can no longer wear my old BDUs but I can ruck 80lbs around all day. 

[heater]

A couple of you should probably go outside for some fresh air.

Post of the Day!

[SciFiAuthor]

I am not speaking for anyone but myself here and I am not excusing any bad behavior.  I am NOT trying to start a war with you or anyone because Internet pissing matches are pointless.
From  my POV.

Your post, that I replied to, reminded me of the many times that you've reprimanded us on how to properly interact with Gnoory. An example being: When asking a question to Jorch, be civil and respectful.  (Gathering more flies with honey than vinegar.) BTW, I agree with this philosophy.
It does not help ones cause to start off a conversation by saying: “FUCK YOU! Can I borrow a dollar?”

I just don't understand why you keep telling us about your particular brand of morality.
Over and over again, since the first week you signed up, inserting your moral superiority. Perhaps I have a ”Dad Lecture” intolerance, but your moral high ground refrain is getting old. Maybe you don't realize you are doing this, or you hope that if you say it enough times it will sink in someday and the Interweb will be a kinder, gentler place.

If you feel the need to be the moral police, or GNS hall monitor then have at it my friend.
There is plenty of work around here for such a guy. I just don't agree with the frequency of these posts.

Am I misjudging or misremembering here?
Also remember, I am not talking about every single post, but enough to catch my eye. You've had some funny and entertaining posts, but this moral aspect caught me wrong today, and I could not hold my tongue.

Same here, just speaking for me and calling people stupid when they go out of their way to try to cost everyone else because apparently no one's ever explained to them why they shouldn't do that. I'm not a moderator, I'm some guy calling someone else an asshole in a diplomatic way. Everything I've said, everything you consider moralizing, is in response to something else. Take a look at what they were in response to and you might not have the same viewpoint when you're done.

"It does not help ones cause to start off a conversation by saying: “FUCK YOU! Can I borrow a dollar?”

Yeah, well, so I have the balls to say something when that happens. That's all that's going on here.

[SaucyRossy]

Oh right, Art just popped in when Noory was here ranting just so he could talk to us and interact with us in the George Noory Sucks thread, instead of the Art Bell thread or FB. That does not wash.

Last night: No Noory = No Bell. Several people tried to end it before it got that far. That doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it does to you, but to me it looks like a warped bunch of horseshit.

I don't doubt Art has one hell of a problem with Premiere. I didn't mention anything about that, so I won't address it.

Dude, he was obviously given a heads up by people here but he came here to set the record straight since George was just saying one bullshit thing after another. It's why he listed his points in the second post.

George saying all the crap he did is why Art posted, not that George was here in general.

He set the record straight and bounced.

And people can say they don't want George here all they want, but only two people can make that decision.
1. George deciding to leave, if he gets too thin skinned (ill give him credit for putting up with a lot while posting here) or as the case was last night, being called out and instead of standing his ground and refuting the points I and others were making, claim he was sick of being crucified and wanted to leave.

2. MV banning him (which is NOT going to happen, MV isn't that type of admin)

[karios8]

I was 11B Infantry wearing ACUs and suede boots, both were very low maintenance.  I'll 80lb ruck with you all day and you are correct, that is the front of a stryker. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Okay, as lonevoice already explained quite clearly, Art was obviously NOT communicating with George Noory - Art has a dozen more private ways to do that if he feels he needs to. Art was communicating with us, explaining to us that George Noory had never contacted him, contrary to what Team Noory was telling us here via the "GNoory" posts. It has nothing to do with Art thinking Noory is genuinely posting here. Art gives a shit: he just wants to counter any lies put out on behalf of Noory, which is what Art was doing with his last two posts. End of story.

You're really stretching facts way out of shape here.

Overstretching the facts, yeah, Art shows up at the same time as Noory and you guys think he's here for you and by extension would still have been if Noory wasn't here. That is absurd, and it is the point I am making. No Noory = No Bell in this thread. There is no further content to that point. If the few "Ban Noory" and "Noory go home" people would have had their way, this would have been shut down long before now.

I don't see how that's rocket science.

[SciFiAuthor]

Dude, he was obviously given a heads up by people here but he came here to set the record straight since George was just saying one bullshit thing after another. It's why he listed his points in the second post.

George saying all the crap he did is why Art posted, not that George was here in general.

He set the record straight and bounced.

And people can say they don't want George here all they want, but only two people can make that decision.
1. George deciding to leave, if he gets too thin skinned (ill give him credit for putting up with a lot while posting here) or as the case was last night, being called out and instead of standing his ground and refuting the points I and others were making, claim he was sick of being crucified and wanted to leave.

2. MV banning him (which is NOT going to happen, MV isn't that type of admin)

#1 was the problem that could have been shut down by them. #2 Said Noory was welcome and has him
scheduled for a podcast. The few attackers want to shit in that nest.

"George saying all the crap he did is why Art posted, not that George was here in general. "

Yes, I've been screaming that for most of the day, but some people apparently think Art was here for a scheduled tea party and press conference instead of asking Noory where the fucking email was.

[Sardondi]

Overstretching the facts, yeah, Art shows up at the same time as Noory and you guys think he's here for you and by extension would still have been if Noory wasn't here. That is absurd, and it is the point I am making. No Noory = No Bell in this thread. There is no further content to that point. If the few "Ban Noory" and "Noory go home" people would have had their way, this would have been shut down long before now.

I don't see how that's rocket science.

You know, your stuff goes far beyond mere fanboyism. Why the hell are you really here?

[SciFiAuthor]

You know, your stuff goes far beyond mere fanboyism. Why the hell are you really here?

Ad hominem. Scoundrel! You must have no response to that point.

[nooryisawesome]

Sci-fi, no offense but fuck off. Fucking drama queen.

To fair.
I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion.

People are just getting upset the dolphin has some valid points.

[sleeplessinca]

Do you think that George is the stranger?

Know of  anyone stranger Art could mean?

[SciFiAuthor]

Sci-fi, no offense but fuck off. Fucking drama queen.

That's "Red Sonya" to you.

[shell88]

#1 was the problem that could have been shut down by them. #2 Said Noory was welcome and has him
scheduled for a podcast. The few attackers want to shit in that nest.

"George saying all the crap he did is why Art posted, not that George was here in general. "

Yes, I've been screaming that for most of the day, but some people apparently think Art was here for a scheduled tea party and press conference instead of asking Noory where the fucking email was.

Quite taking everything so damn seriously. Honestly, it is just a forum board and yea it get's dramatic.  We aren't at a life or death type of board meeting ya know. People say all kinds of stuff in the heat of the moment. Ya it gets dramatic. Big deal.
I sometimes think George hired you for public relations or damage control.  If so, your not doing too badly. 

[sleeplessinca]

Too far?

yeppers

[SaucyRossy]

Yes, I've been screaming that for most of the day, but some people apparently think Art was here for a scheduled tea party and press conference instead of asking Noory where the fucking email was.

No. You're missing my point. He wasn't ASKING George where the email was, he was informing US he had not received an email.

[SciFiAuthor]

To far.
I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion.

People are just getting upset the dolphin has some valid points.

Thank you Green Chick. Hey, at least they're not after you for laying out what happened with Noory anymore. That was a load of crap too, you said not to shoot the messenger and they still shot the messenger.

[nooryisawesome]

Dude, he was obviously given a heads up by people here but he came here to set the record straight since George was just saying one bullshit thing after another. It's why he listed his points in the second post.




1. George deciding to leave, if he gets too thin skinned (ill give him credit for putting up with a lot while posting here) or as the case was last night, being called out and instead of standing his ground and refuting the points I and others were making,

I don't think most people will think less of george for not arguing with a bunch of people who hate him on the Internet.

[aldousburbank]

If it was me all curled up with the keyboard f(laming) I'd do what works for me; If I can't be happy I try to be smart. If I can't be smart I try to be funny. If I can't be funny I try to be quiet. If I can't be quiet I try to get stoned. If I can't get stoned I try go to sleep. When I wake up, if I'm not happy, I try to start all over. But that's just me.

[nooryisawesome]

Thank you Green Chick. Hey, at least they're not after you for laying out what happened with Noory anymore. That was a load of crap too, you said not to shoot the messenger and they still shot the messenger.

The sad thing is NO ONE is supporting george.

People here get pissed if someone says anything other than Noory is Satan.

[aldousburbank]

Know of  anyone stranger Art could mean?

Ft. Rock?

[SciFiAuthor]

No. You're missing my point. He wasn't ASKING George where they email was, he was informing US he had not received an email.

And he would have been here doing that if Noory wasn't here? You're missing my point.

[SaucyRossy]

I don't think most people will think less of george for not arguing with a bunch of people who hate him on the Internet.

First I don't hate George.

Secondly, I have been respectful and asked him to explain what happened in a clear and well thought out way.

Says a lot that he didn't. My guess is he wasn't capable of doing it.

Also, I am not entirely sure George can do much more to make people think less of him after having Oates on.

[bateman]

If it was me all curled up with the keyboard f(laming) I'd do what works for me; If I can't be happy I try to be smart. If I can't be smart I try to be funny. If I can't be funny I try to be quiet. If I can't be quiet I try to get stoned. If I can't get stoned I try go to sleep. When I wake up, if I'm not happy, I try to start all over. But that's just me.

George is stuck in the "can't be smart, can't be funny" range. If only he'd be quiet.

http://youtu.be/HEuySCia6aw