George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[Tinfoil Hat]

According to WeatherUnderground it's like 9 million degrees F there today.

Stay cool, MV.

[pepsiguy]

Ah, the gnoory effect. Schplit forum.

[SaucyRossy]

thank yewwwwwww.  i'm still in morocco, though.

I bet the turmeric is fresh there.

[George Drooly]

Yeah, it's more of a stretch to imagine some flunky sitting next to him, trying to type in the style of Jorch, then feverishly writing shout-outs on cue cards for him to read mere seconds later. Come on. This is not some PR op hatched by Premiere. It was a poorly-conceived attempt at a charm offensive that turned into damage control. That has Jorch written all over it.

Seriously. It's easy to feign vaguely dumb, very difficult to mimic utter stupidity. George falls in the latter category, he's a singular individual that way.

[George Drooly]

Well, you know . . .

If Noory hadn't posted here, Art wouldn't have either

Wait just a minute... Art posted in the forum before George showed up, didn't he?

[George Drooly]

I hate that the posts from people I have on ignore show up in other posts.
But, being a woman, I guess I am just emotional about that.

Anyone who "ignores" any other user (who isn't persistently, directly attacking them) should just get off the internet. C'mon.

[MV/Liberace!]

According to WeatherUnderground it's like 9 million degrees F there today.

Stay cool, MV.

it actually wasn't too terrible today, but i did sleep through a good chunk of the afternoon.  the house i'm staying in has no air conditioning, but the whole place is made of concrete/stone, so it tends to be cool in here during hot summer days.  it's truly a shame homes in the USA aren't built this way.  our insistence on using wood for everything baffles me.

[TequilaMB]

Wait just a minute... Art posted in the forum before George showed up, didn't he?

Yes. Years before, I think.

ETA: Art's first post was February 03, 2012.

[George Drooly]

our insistence on using wood for everything baffles me.

Turmeric bricks!

[SciFiAuthor]

Wait just a minute... Art posted in the forum before George showed up, didn't he?

Yeah, like last January. What, you think Art was sitting around last night thinking "Gee, I think I'll go make a statement about George Noory at the exact time that Noory just happens to be there, in the George Noory Sucks thread, just because I haven't posted in a while."

He was here because George was here. He would not have been here if George wasn't. Why are you even contesting that?

[coaster]

My house is a sauna, even with air conditioning. its stifling. Wood and asbestos are not a good combination it seems.

[RealCool Daddio]

thank yewwwwwww.  i'm still in morocco, though.

In that case, Asaalam Alaikum.

[bmcintyre]

Why is C2C still pushing shows like the Degeneration of U.S. & The 10th Amendment and Defending the Constitution?  This is why I think George and the Motha ship suck.  They do not do it well and that is not the kind of show C2C was intended to be.

George has about 5 people that we can be guaranteed to hear from at least once a month because no one on his staff does research anymore--attending conferences is more lucrative.

I get more out of Popular Mechanics and Popular Science.

[lonevoice]

He was here because George was here. He would not have been here if George wasn't. Why are you even contesting that?

Because you're wrong.   Art wasn't here to engage with Noory.  Art was here to leave a message for his fans.  He did so with a maturity and a dignity that Noory and friends aren't capable of understanding; but that's okay because Art doesn't actually care what they think of him anyway.  He never has.  Art's message was received by those for whom it was intended - which wasn't Dave Noorie, his minders, or his apologists.   In a way, it was a much longer version of the same messages Art used to leave around the internet after his 2002 retirement when Dave Noorie took over full-time hosting...

"Nothing is as it seems"

"Nothing and no one are as they seem"

"Never take rides with strangers"

Art closed both of his two posts last night with essentially the same words. 

I thought that there was possibly a chance that George did not know the history, I no longer believe that.  At this point it no longer matters, it's done...I did ban Oates for life. If George does not respect that after reading what Oates said about me then there is nothing left for me to say about George.

Look, this thing is over because it is a done deal...as of now I would like to let it slide into history again.

There's no reason to think Art will be back in this thread, the odds are pretty much against that.  He usually says what he means and means what he says.  As to whether he'll post again in the Art Bell thread once "Dark Matters" is running smoothly, hard to say.  He does like to engage with his fans on the internet.  If that's where he thinks most of them are, maybe so.

[starrmtn001]

thank yewwwwwww.  i'm still in morocco, though.

After Thurs. night, I was wondering whether gn would cancel his guest spot on PodCast.  Then I thought, to hell with gn perhaps MV might cancel it.

Foodlion reminded me that you were still out of town then.  Now that you're (virtually) here, some of us were wondering whether you were going to cancel george.

[bmcintyre]

Because you're wrong.   Art wasn't here to engage with Noory.  Art was here to leave a message for his fans.  He did so with a maturity and a dignity that Noory and friends aren't capable of understanding; but that's okay because Art doesn't actually care what they think of him anyway.  He never has.  Art's message was received by those to whom it was intended - which wasn't Dave Noorie, his minders, or his apologists.   In a way, it was a much longer version of the same messages Art used to leave around the internet after his 2002 retirement when Dave Noorie took over full-time hosting...

"Nothing is as it seems"

"Nothing and no one are as they seem"

"Never take rides with strangers"

Art closed both of his two posts last night with essentially the same words. 

There's no reason to think Art will be back in this thread, the odds are pretty much against that.  He usually says what he means and means what he says.  As to whether he'll post again in the Art Bell thread once "Dark Matters" is running smoothly, hard to say.  He does like to engage with his fans on the internet.  If that's where he thinks most of them are, maybe so.

Do you think that George is the stranger?

[lonevoice]

Do you think that George is the stranger?

I think most of Art's problems with business models began in 2000 when Premiere was sold to Clear Channel and assimilated by the borg.  I'd guess Art doesn't make a huge distinction between Clear Channel, Premiere, and their corporate spokesmodel (Dave Noorie) when it comes to the fate of C2C.  That's my opinion of The Stranger. 

[ItsOver]

I think most of Art's problems with business models began in 2000 when Premiere was sold to Clear Channel and assimilated by the borg.  I'd guess Art doesn't make a huge distinction between Clear Channel, Premiere, and their corporate spokesmodel (Dave Noorie) when it comes to the fate of C2C.  That's my opinion of The Stranger.

That's one of the reasons I can't get too excited about whether or not it's really George Noory who's been posting here.  Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  I believe most of us will agree it's SOMEBODY from PremRat that's been posting as George, especially after MV's checks.  George, Tommy, Lisa Lyon, etc. are all just part of the Borg machine that stumbles along, trying to churn-out a train wreck of a show by a corporate group-think approach.  They may as well all be one and the same.  Just an interchangeable part of the Borg conglomerate. 

Art has never struck me as a "group-think" corporate committee kind of guy.  I would imagine the typical PremRat-type of operation would completely grind Art the wrong way. 

[nooryisawesome]

  George, Tommy, Lisa Lyon, etc. are all just part of the Borg machine that stumbles along, trying to churn-out a train wreck of a show by a corporate group-think approach. 

If George is being truthful that group think turns out a show that has more listners, more affiliates, is in more markets, has more stream link member, etc than ever before. Not to mention the show appeals to more people than ever with their diverse guest and split shows. Also according to george people spend more time actually listening to the show than ever.

[shell88]

Yeah, like last January. What, you think Art was sitting around last night thinking "Gee, I think I'll go make a statement about George Noory at the exact time that Noory just happens to be there, in the George Noory Sucks thread, just because I haven't posted in a while."

He was here because George was here. He would not have been here if George wasn't. Why are you even contesting that?

Still all opinion.  There are very few truths on this board compared to the opinions. I'm not singling you out sci fi just using it as an example.  Nothing is ever as it appears, nor is it otherwise. 

[nooryisawesome]

FROM 2006 -An estimated 4.5 million  listeners tune in to Coast to Coast each night, reportedly making the show No. 1 in its time slot in cities from Los Angeles to Albuquerque (where it gets a whopping 22 percent of the audience) to San Diego (where it attracts more listeners than the next two most popular stations combined).

Three years after the departure of Coast to Coast host Art Bell, this bizarre brew of the strange and the serious appears to be on a roll, boasting nearly 500 affiliates, podcasts and a satellite radio feed.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70218



From 2011
However, from the Coast to Coast AM website itself (emphasis mine):

“Coast to Coast AM airs on more than 500 stations in the U.S., as well as Canada, Mexico and Guam, and is heard by nearly three million weekly listeners.“


http://fauxcapitalist.com/2011/10/07/fact-check-george-noory-of-coast-to-coast-am-has-16-million-daily-listeners/

[Sardondi]

...Those negativists also seem to be people that don't post here day to day, and only jumped in when Noory was posting.....

Huh? Said the guy who's been here 3 weeks, and who joined 2 days after "GNoory" made an appearance.

...Well, here's the end result of all that: MV's forum, and advertising, has less numbers, this thread becomes just another ho hum thread on the internet, and no one gets any real information about anything...

Gosh, if only we'd known your true purpose was to support MV.

What craven BS. 

Consider this.

Much of the time, George doesn't seem focused on the show, or even to be listening.  I think it's because he's doing other things - googlling something the guest just said, scanning for 'breaking news', playing cards with Tommy - hell I don't know, watching movie trailers and catching up on celeb gossip.

The point is, he's always doing something else.  In this case that something else is posting here.

Actually that's a damn good point. HOWEVER. The "voices" are entirely different. And "GNoory" is by far a more coherent thinker and writer than George Noory could ever be. 

[lonevoice]

Huh? Said the guy who's been here 3 weeks, and who joined 2 days after "GNoory" made an appearance. Gosh, if only we'd known your true purpose was to support MV.

What craven BS.

Oh, sardoni, never change.  I'm restraining myself from posting the gif of the monkeys hugging again.  You're welcome.

[Sardondi]

Art wasn't here to engage with Noory.  Art was here to leave a message for his fans....

Precisely. Any other construction means that millionaire Art Bell and national radio host George Noory, who is employed by a major radio network, don't have any human, technological or data resources instantly available by which to obtain contact information one for the other if they so wished, and are thus reduced to communicating with each other in public via an online forum*. Oh yeah, that makes sense.


*Which reminds me of the quote from "GNoory" claiming that "he" had attempted to reach Art via email by sending a message to his "mindspring address". (Which little bit of false info was for our consumption, people.) Heh. About like trying an address at The Well or Compuserv. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't mindspring addresses disappear around 2000? Or about 3 years before George Noory even dreamed of hosting C2C? And neither George nor anyone at PremRad ever had a whole series of alternate email addresses for Art? Riiiiight.

[bmcintyre]

I agree with Sardondi.  A dolphin in a uniform, on a pedestal, attempting to nay say a decision already made and demonstrated daily.

[nooryisawesome]

Precisely.

Well since Art claims he didnt get an email from George. Art would have never responded to Georges point of view had Gnoory not posted here.
So therefore Art did only respond because Noory posted here.

[bateman]

Whole lot of circlejerking going on in here.

[awake]

And stayed when he was wasn't. I've been here every day since I joined, posting away frivolously unlike the drive bys last night. There's just no excuse for it and it needed to be said.

I don't think anyone voted you room monitor, but I could be wrong.  And I have noticed that you have a habit of speaking for "everyone" and "all of us" when posting to dave.  Just so you and I are clear, you do not speak for me. 

[herbalizer]

Not that I consider myself a member of the "Bellgab Family" as I'm relatively new here but didnt someone on here point out awhile back that George posting on another forum caused it to split into two groups and finally the forum dried up and died because of infighting?

[UnscreenedCaller]

And neither George nor anyone at PremRad PremArt ever had a whole series of alternate email addresses for Art? Riiiiight.

I guess they never heard about ArtBell.com and the email address there, either.  Fancy that. :