George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[ItsOver]

LOL - that was only 3.5 weeks ago - it seems like we've been calling him Dave for a lot longer for some reason...

I'm surprised PremRat hasn't changed the C2C website to "Coast to Coast AM with Dave Noorie." 

[lonevoice]

LOL - that was only 3.5 weeks ago - it seems like we've been calling him Dave for a lot longer for some reason...

Could it be a porthole?

[ItsOver]

Could it be a porthole?

Hahahah...that must be how Poopeye The PremRat got on-board.

[UnscreenedCaller]

As is this quote from someone you know. "Is there a chance that the devil will win and all the children will be horribly butchered and burned alive?" What's your take on the mindset of someone who would say that? Would George Knapp or John Wells ever say or think something like that?

I thought and thought and thought some more and you know what? There is no one who would think something like that, much less say it. It's sick, but nothing unusual for the Snoory and his maimed children fetish. Even Wells, nutty as he can be, would draw the line at that little bon mot. But not our Joorch.

Could it be a porthole?

If it's our hero, it's more like a sinkhole.

[Nucky Nolan]

The following is a list of documented George Noory quotes. Known as "Nooryisms"... these non sequitur quips and half-witted, meandering ramblings serve only to exacerbate my feelings of disappointment over what has happened since Noory took over Coast to Coast AM. If you happen to know of others and you can document when they occurred, please post them in a reply to this topic.

"If you raised a baby and beat it and kicked it and yelled at it, it would turn out to be a mean baby?"
July 19, 2007.

I quoted the first post in this thread. The original complete post contained some real gems. It was posted in 2008 (the more things (don't) change). Even then, beaten and kicked babies were mentioned. I listened to one show last week, and one of the few news stories dealt with an Australian "mother" who put glue in her infant's ears. It was not a big news story, and it was not an item that dealt with health and safety issues (a smokescreen?). There was no reason to air the story. Who decided to air it, and why was the decision made to do so?

ETA: Unscreened Caller, do you think that someone can explain it? Perhaps Science Fiction Author can offer some insight into the process. Why the fixation and obsession with such tragedies? Does George Noory not select the news stories?

[MV/Liberace!]

We abuse the asshole here on a personal basis because we can't reach into the radio and choke him.

Unless, like me, it's been several years since you cared.

[SaucyRossy]

Unless, like me, it's been several years since you cared.

Yeah, people. Art is coming back. This whole hate george for ruining what Art built is moot at this point. Art has a new show to build. Hopefully that reality will kick in as we get closer to the 16th.

[Roy Hinkley]

I'm surprised PremRat hasn't changed the C2C website to "Coast to Coast AM with Dave Noorie." 

Couldn't hurt at this point!

[eddie dean]

yeah,,,I realized this too. It's like a leaky roof you just can't repair. The water keeps finding its way back in.
I do admire her for being loyal to her core beliefs (dislike for the snoron), but it quickly devolves into something distressing. The rage out-of-proportion to the situation is unsettling.
(I know, I am feeding the troll, but it had to be said)

Second.

[Roy Hinkley]

Could it be a porthole?

Like I said yesterday, Dave's still trying to figure out how to squeeze through the porthole so he can visit different dimensions. 

[SaucyRossy]

And don't get me wrong, this thread has been fun and I've expressed my frustrations and tried to interact with George to help the show out but that was basically a time killer. As we get closer to Art I am starting to care even less.

[MV/Liberace!]

One second you're typing how he eats shit and the next post is him saying 'hope you're all well.'

Heh heh.

[Nucky Nolan]

Yeah, people. Art is coming back. This whole hate george for ruining what Art built is moot at this point. Art has a new show to build. Hopefully that reality will kick in as we get closer to the 16th.

It was disappointment rather than hatred, and, to be fair to George Noory, he did an acceptable job for a while. He worsened over time. 

[WOTR]

It's NOT the Snoron's show. It was Bell's show and when he quit it belonged to the listeners. It NEVER belonged to Snoron.

Let's be honest.  It did belong to Bell... he sold it lock, stock, barrel and content to pemrat (or premiere?)  Whoever... it actually does belong to them now and not the listeners.  The old shows belong to them (as evidenced by the take down order to funkybaldy and ignoring Arts pleas to stop running his old shows.)  It never did belong to us- we just tuned in, added an audience, made it economically viable and added some content during open lines and a presence on the net.  Art made it feel like it belonged to the listeners with unscreened calls and respect to his audience (and hopefully he recreates that with his new show) but I was never sent a cheque nor was I asked to do the work he put into it.

It also does not belong to Noory anymore than the McDonalds down the street belongs to the burger flipper.  He is an employee (and that may be a part of the problem.)  Very few employees put their souls into their work if they get their take home pay regardless of effort.  This may explain why the new Bell show will succeed while C2C remains lumbering on in the same direction it has been going for the last decade.

[WOTR]

But that wasn't the point I was making. Holding someone else responsible for one's aggravation when one continues to participate by listening is irrational. I don't visit people I do not like. If I do then I am a fool. Listening to noory isn't mandatory. If I order a meal at a restaurant and I don't like it I can complain, ask for a refund, and/or not return. If I return and order the same meal and still don't like it...

Thanks... I will agree with that point.  I think we are going to have to disagree on the other.  Yeah, there is personal responsibility, but I have seen a few people who were completely incapable of it (brain injury, major imbalance etc...) I know you have seen the same, so I have to conclude that we just come down on different sides of that issue.

However, you are spot on about visiting people we do not like.  Somehow, I know that I have nobody to blame but myself when I turn the radio on and get aggravated (Noory can do it- but the extreme right wing local guy who broadcasts in the afternoons can actually get me cursing at the radio.)  I know in both cases I should turn it off (or not turn it on in the first place) but seem to keep reaching for the knob.

Fortunately, the local station has just replaced the one host and Art will be back any day now.  In my case, I think that I may need others to intervene for me and save me from myself...

[UnscreenedCaller]

ETA: Unscreened Caller, do you think that someone can explain it? Perhaps Science Fiction Author can offer some insight into the process. Why the fixation and obsession with such tragedies? Does George Noory not select the news stories?

Beats me. Why does someone with grandchildren encourage the anti vaxers and have them on the show? There's disconnect from reality in the vax case and morbid fixation in the maimed child cases.

[lonevoice]

[UnscreenedCaller]

Dang, all this talk about portals on C2C - and, well,  I grew my own portal in the backyard. I'm thinking of calling it Goatsey. Do you think I can get Joorch to mention my prizewinning tomato portal on Monday night's show?

[eddie dean]

As for the children stories....they are REAL tragic stories that need to be told. We dont sensationalize them. And to me there's nothing sadder.

This was Dave's answer when asked, why he includes the horrible children stories so often.
"they need to be told"

[Nucky Nolan]

I don't really believe in the Devil, but if you've been watching the news from Syria, I'd say George summed up precisely what the Devil's work would look like if he did exist.

Why emphasize the suffering of kids to make a general point not related to a specific act? Referencing people of all ages would make sense to a certain extent. Comments about "burned" and "butchered" children are over the top. Surely, you can see this. Also, why do so many news stories deal with horrid things that happen to kids? For example, the bit on the Australian mom, who put glue in her kid's ears, was *not* newsworthy. It wasn't a health or safety advisory about something that posed a danger to children, and it wasn't a cycled story like those found on cable news shows or the Drudge Report. It was one of just a few news stories that were mentioned, and the sheer amount of these kinds of Coast stories is just plain weird.     

[SciFiAuthor]

Why emphasize the suffering of kids to make a general point not related to a specific act? Referencing people of all ages would make sense to a certain extent. Comments about "burned" and "butchered" children are over the top. Surely, you can see this. Also, why do so many news stories deal with horrid things that happen to kids? For example, the bit on the Australian mom, who put glue in her kid's ears, was *not* newsworthy. It wasn't a health or safety advisory about something that posed a danger to children, and it wasn't a cycled story like those found on cable news shows or the Drudge Report. It was one of just a few news stories that were mentioned, and the sheer amount of these kinds of Coast stories is just plain weird.     

People say that, but I look at drudge and here's what we have right now:

-Cameron threatening Syria in direct response to pictures of gassed children.
-An 8 year old fatally shoots a 90 year old
-Thief vandalizes school, steals kid's school supplies

The fact is that people react to news stories that involve kids. Drudge wouldn't have them if they didn't result in clicks moving through. I would assume, and this is total speculation, that George sees that certain news stories result in better TSL. Either that or he's just plain horrified by the stories and think they should be reported. I always took it as a "Why would someone do that???" vibe when he reported something like that.

[Nucky Nolan]

People say that, but I look at drudge and here's what we have right now:

-Cameron threatening Syria in direct response to pictures of gassed children.
-An 8 year old fatally shoots a 90 year old
-Thief vandalizes school, steals kid's school supplies

The fact is that people react to news stories that involve kids. Drudge wouldn't have them if they didn't result in clicks moving through. I would assume, and this is total speculation, that George sees that certain news stories result in better TSL. Either that or he's just plain horrified by the stories and think they should be reported. I always took it as a "Why would someone do that???" vibe when he reported something like that.

Your efforts are admirable. I concede that such stories sometimes are in the mainstream news. I'm not referring to those. I'm talking about the gratuitous stuff that isn't appropriate or necessary. The "dead baby stories" come across as very weird, and they definitely turn off many people, and George Noory should cover them much less than he does. There's some honest advice for you. I don't know why your boss emphasizes such things. For example, how is it constructive or positive to bring up the Australian case? What's the point? George may be horrified and moved by such things, but some listeners see his disproportionate reporting of such tragedies as manifestations of creepiness of the worst kind. In political parlance, the optics hurt him. If you took a poll, the vast majority of people would vote against such stories, as well as the baffling asides, being aired on a routine basis.

[PB the Deplorable]

Lots of times the guest will mention something gruesome, and George's immediate response will be something about kids or babies.  And he sure perks right up for it too, no 'drift'.

It's not about people needing to know, it comes across as a sickness.

[SciFiAuthor]

Your efforts are admirable. I concede that such stories sometimes are in the mainstream news. I'm not referring to those. I'm talking about the gratuitous stuff that isn't appropriate or necessary. The "dead baby stories" come across as very weird, and they definitely turn off many people, and George Noory should cover them much less than he does. There's some honest advice for you. I don't know why your boss emphasizes such things. For example, how is it constructive or positive to bring up the Australian case? What's the point? George may be horrified and moved by such things, but some listeners see his disproportionate reporting of such tragedies as manifestations of creepiness of the worst kind. In political parlance, the optics hurt him. If you took a poll, the vast majority of people would vote against such stories, as well as the baffling asides, being aired on a routine basis.

What's the point of any shock story in the media? The point is to get people to listen. I assume it works, which is why we see nothing but a constant train of shock stories. You can't say that Drudge gets off on old people getting beat up because he links to an inordinate amount of stories about old people getting beat up, so I don't really know that it's fair to pin that one on George. To broaden, I can name about 100 metal albums that have lyrics or cover art that goes way further. Do we insinuate things about the artist? No, we don't...unless we're biased, such as with a preacher that wasn't going to like metal anyway. From that perspective all sorts of things can be insinuated, but that doesn't mean they're objectively valid.

I'll tell you one thing that's relevant, my real boss, a publisher, of whom I am their bitch and have been for years, actually did require that I tone certain things down and accentuate others in order to effectively pander to a modern trend audience and make my books saleable. It was their way or the highway. All of that came from corporate focus groups and god knows what studies that determined it.

Well, everyone seems to accept that Noory is a corporate type controlled by Premiere's focus groups and studies and numbers and statistics . . . except in this case. When it comes to this single aspect, Premiere's control disappears, and it's all Noory. Where did that come from? I have no idea how a radio conglomerate really works, but it seems to me to be contradictory logic on the part of the posters looking one way or the other as it suits.

[Nucky Nolan]

Lots of times the guest will mention something gruesome, and George's immediate response will be something about kids or babies.  And he sure perks right up for it too, no 'drift'.

It's not about people needing to know, it comes across as a sickness.

PR Guy, it really does come across that way. Your boss might have good motives, but he sometimes sounds like Bluebeard or Albert Fish. That's not a slam. It's an honest observation. I'm done with the subject. My spleen is vented. I'll just say that the dead baby stories motivated me to join the ranks of the critics and "haters". If not for them, my ire would have been solely reserved for Nancy Grace, as it's not in my nature to repeatedly comment on public figures on public forums. Think about it, Sci-Fi Author. Paperboy's take on things is shared by a large percentage of listeners out there. Frankly, it would be unfair to your boss if he was grossly misunderstood due to a lack of understanding of how his comments and stories sound to a lot of people. He may have the best intentions, but we can't ascertain them by what he says. 

[SciFiAuthor]

Woof, I'll even admit that was one pedantic ass post I just stuck up there. The more beers I get in me, the more I get in touch with my inner Charles Krauthammer. You can imagine what sort of fun I am at parties.

[onan]

It really comes down to noory sucks. Whether his suffering babies is directed from management or some twisted emotional penchant... who cares? How do I explain it? Shit stinks. every time. noory may well be a fine person as a neighbor but as host he is shit.

[Nucky Nolan]

It really comes down to noory sucks. Whether his suffering babies is directed from management or some twisted emotional penchant... who cares? How do I explain it? Shit stinks. every time. noory may well be a fine person as a neighbor but as host he is shit.

Someone kidnapped the introspective Onan! Who is this impostor? Whoever you may be, you summed it up quite succinctly but there is one caveat. George didn't really stink that much during his first two or so years, but I have a sinus problem.

[SciFiAuthor]

PR Guy, it really does come across that way. Your boss might have good motives, but he sometimes sounds like Bluebeard or Albert Fish. That's not a slam. It's an honest observation. I'm done with the subject. My spleen is vented. I'll just say that the dead baby stories motivated me to join the ranks of the critics and "haters". If not for them, my ire would have been solely reserved for Nancy Grace, as it's not in my nature to repeatedly comment on public figures on public forums. Think about it, Sci-Fi Author. Paperboy's take on things is shared by a large percentage of listeners out there. Frankly, it would be unfair to your boss if he was grossly misunderstood due to a lack of understanding of how his comments and stories sound to a lot of people. He may have the best intentions, but we can't ascertain them by what he says.

After that, I'd probably think I was a PR guy too. I should be a PR guy, but I'm not, I'm exactly what I say I am. I really am just some asshole out here drinking Milwaukee's Best and listening to Wells with no connection to Noory or Premiere. It seems to be really easy to talk to Noory on here, tell him your concerns. If you do it tactfully, like I do, he seems to listen and respond in the positive. I don't get the vibe you guys do though, George just seems "typical media" to me.

[SciFiAuthor]

It really comes down to noory sucks. Whether his suffering babies is directed from management or some twisted emotional penchant... who cares? How do I explain it? Shit stinks. every time. noory may well be a fine person as a neighbor but as host he is shit.

I think it's more of a case of Art being so damned good that the bar is too high. Art is a gifted motherfucker as far as broadcasting goes. That one guy that happened to have the right mix of vocal tone, style, interest, and other factors to produce the highest possible effect for what he did. He was so good that he probably will never be equaled in what he does.

But I also remember Punnett boring me to tears, Siegal boring me to tears, Hilly Rose boring me to tears, Barbara Simpson boring me to tears, and so on. Well, ok, say you were Premiere. Art doesn't want to do C2C, you have to replace him with someone. Who would that be?

Some think I'm a plant, but I would actually replace George with Wells. Wells is 85% of Art Bell.

So you guys tell me. Who would your replacement be?