President Donald J. Trump

[PrairieGhost]

https://twitter.com/magnifier661/status/759526844752244740

[21st Century Man]

As an outsider ...... it's hard to believe that in a country as large as the USA, the choice for top job comes down to those two mental dwarfs.
Putin, with his past political/police experience, hard line mentality, and general hard-case persona ...... dealing with the chosen US dwarf ?
How did America tumble so far ...... Obama the traitor, and now a choice between Trump and Clinton.

I've been wondering the same thing.

[RealCool Daddio]

Looks like crybaby Trump is afraid he will be embarrassed by a woman, and is already laying the groundwork for chickening out of the debates.  This should come as no surprise, given the thorough thrashing he received in the media throughout the DNC, particularly with respect to his cowardly attack on the mother of a war hero. 

Given that the man-baby is barely able to string together a handful of words in a coherent manner, let alone form a cogent position on any matter of import to the nation, it is probably best he spares his family and supporters the indignity of being eviscerated by Hillary on national TV.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/no-certainty-debates-will-happen-at-all

[PB the Deplorable]

Well golly gosh, has Hilary changed and now respects and appreciates the military, or did she just send someone out to find a prop to exploit?

[Lt.Uhura]

Trump is desperately trying to lose this election and he still has three more months to go.  Soon only the Kool-Aid drinking apologists will remain in his corner.  Insulting the parents of the dead serviceman is inexcusable.   

Even the Houston (Texas!) Chronicle, who historically has endorsed Republicans, has seen the light of day and criticized Trump in a scathing editorial, followed by an early endorsement of Hillary. 

"...Any one of Trump's less-than-sterling qualities - his erratic temperament, his dodgy business practices, his racism, his Putin-like strongman inclinations and faux-populist demagoguery, his contempt for the rule of law, his ignorance - is enough to be disqualifying.  His convention-speech comment, 'I alone can fix it,' should make every American shudder. He is, we believe, a danger to the Republic..."

http://www.chron.com/opinion/recommendations/article/For-Hillary-Clinton-8650345.php

[Astrid Galactic]

Well golly gosh, has Hilary changed and now respects and appreciates the military, or did she just send someone out to find a prop to exploit?

Both Clintons say what is expedient for them at that very second and changes even faster than the weather depending on who they are talking to or they sense the audience wants to hear. I saw that immediately in Bill the first time he ran for president and never, ever trusted him because of that. Hillary has refined that skill. This time, more people are waking up to that con job tactic of theirs.

[FightTheFuture]

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot???!!


http://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/759736098838851585

[FightTheFuture]

Scott Adams, who has been right about Trump so far, is speculating that if Trump wins, Obama will declare martial law and refuse to leave office.  After all, we have to do all we can to stop the 21st Century Hitler, as Democrats are already branding Trump.

I`d support Obama in that scenario. Trump must be stopped by A N Y   M E A N S   N E C E S S A R Y

[GravitySucks]

Trump is desperately trying to lose this election and he still has three more months to go.  Soon only the Kool-Aid drinking apologists will remain in his corner.  Insulting the parents of the dead serviceman is inexcusable.   

Even the Houston (Texas!) Chronicle, who historically has endorsed Republicans, has seen the light of day and criticized Trump in a scathing editorial, followed by an early endorsement of Hillary. 

"...Any one of Trump's less-than-sterling qualities - his erratic temperament, his dodgy business practices, his racism, his Putin-like strongman inclinations and faux-populist demagoguery, his contempt for the rule of law, his ignorance - is enough to be disqualifying.  His convention-speech comment, 'I alone can fix it,' should make every American shudder. He is, we believe, a danger to the Republic..."

http://www.chron.com/opinion/recommendations/article/For-Hillary-Clinton-8650345.php

Not really. They endorsed LBJ, and endorsed Obama in 2008. They did endorse Romney in 2012, but 2 years ago endorsed Wendy Davis for governor. They are not a conservative news organization as the media spin would lead you to believe. Houston itself is liberal, a sanctuary city, and the Chronicle is a piece of crap organization. I don't read it anymore. I moved to the Houston area back in 72 and while they used to be a decent news organization, the paper now is mainly liberal fluff.

I stopped reading it shorty after it was bought by Hearst.

[Lt.Uhura]

Not really. They endorsed LBJ, and endorsed Obama in 2008. They did endorse Romney in 2012, but 2 years ago endorsed Wendy Davis for governor. They are not a conservative news organization as the media spin would lead you to believe. Houston itself is liberal, a sanctuary city, and the Chronicle is a piece of crap organization. I don't read it anymore. I moved to the Houston area back in 72 and while they used to be a decent news organization, the paper now is mainly liberal fluff.

I stopped reading it shorty after it was bought by Hearst.

That (Texan!) LBJ? Haha, you mean in 1964?  Then Obama in 2008...endorsing just two Democrats for POTUS in over fifty years is hardly a "liberal" organization.

The recent Obama and Davis endorsements are likely more indicative of the demise of the Republican Party and their dearth of any worthy candidates, rather than evidence of an ideological shift to the left.

Every time Trump opens his mouth, it's another nail in the coffin for the GOP.

[PB the Deplorable]

Have any of our journalists asked the Muslim couple their views on Jews?  Gays?  Bars?  Dancing?  Women going out in pubic alone and uncovered?  What would they like to see done?

Why not?  If she is supporting increased Islamic immigration and wants this conversation, let's have it.


The answer, of course, is she knows the lackeys in the Media won't ask them these questions, won't ask anyone these questions, and will do their level best to support her anyway they can - by only printing positive news about her and negative news about Trump.

[PB the Deplorable]

The (Texan!) LBJ? Haha, you mean in 1964?  Then Obama in 2008...endorsing just two Democrats for POTUS in over fifty years is hardly a "liberal" organization.

The recent Obama and Davis endorsements are likely more indicative of the demise of the Republican Party and their dearth of any worthy candidates, rather than evidence of an ideological shift to the left.

Every time Trump opens his mouth, it's another nail in the coffin for the GOP.

You make it sound as if the same people on the editorial board now have been there for decades.  That the people making endorsements haven't changed, just their opinions.

If they endorsed Obama the last two times around, and this Wendy person, what they've done 'historically' is moot.  There are plenty of newspapers that were even-handed or even leaned Republican 'historically' who are now the same 'Progressive' mouthpieces most of the rest have become.

Interestingly enough, the demise of journalistic integrity and evenhandedness has occurred over the same period as the massive loss of trust, viewers, and subscribers.  Probably just a coincidence

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Death wishes aside...I think he's a combo of Teddy & Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman...his similar styles to the Roosevelt's might be from the fact they were from NY too...similar culture/backgrounds...NY'ers always have very good (and entertaining) communication skills...LOL

Yeah totally, I spent some time yesterday thinking about it and came up with Teddy Roosevelt too. Two pragmatic prolific men from wealthy backgrounds who are absolute bad asses and who liberal socially but have politically conservative views. Both of whom could be accused of Megalomania and both of were strong America first types.

[Lt.Uhura]

You make it sound as if the same people on the editorial board now have been there for decades.  That the people making endorsements haven't changed, just their opinions.

If they endorsed Obama the last two times around, and this Wendy person, what they've done 'historically' is moot.  There are plenty of newspapers that were even-handed or even leaned Republican 'historically' who are now the same 'Progressive' mouthpieces most of the rest have become.

Interestingly enough, the demise of journalistic integrity and evenhandedness has occurred over the same period as the massive loss of trust, viewers, and subscribers.  Probably just a coincidence

Rest assured, there are still plenty of conservative journalists. They just don't have anyone to vote for.

[ItsOver]

Not really. They endorsed LBJ, and endorsed Obama in 2008. They did endorse Romney in 2012, but 2 years ago endorsed Wendy Davis for governor. They are not a conservative news organization as the media spin would lead you to believe. Houston itself is liberal, a sanctuary city, and the Chronicle is a piece of crap organization. I don't read it anymore. I moved to the Houston area back in 72 and while they used to be a decent news organization, the paper now is mainly liberal fluff.

I stopped reading it shorty after it was bought by Hearst.

The Houston Chronicle isn't even worth using as a fish wrapper.  It's just another BS rag for pushing mindless propaganda.  This is a typical big news story for their demographic.

http://www.chron.com/life/society/article/Go-inside-Chita-and-Lane-Craft-s-platinum-wedding-8380906.php

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Isn't the mass media's approval rating below congress now in the single digits?

[ItsOver]

Isn't the mass media's approval rating below congress now in the single digits?

It would be with me.  At least Congress isn't littering my lawn with free rags they can't pay me to voluntarily receive.

[GravitySucks]

The (Texan!) LBJ? Haha, you mean in 1964?  Then Obama in 2008...endorsing just two Democrats for POTUS in over fifty years is hardly a "liberal" organization.

The recent Obama and Davis endorsements are likely more indicative of the demise of the Republican Party and their dearth of any worthy candidates, rather than evidence of an ideological shift to the left.

Every time Trump opens his mouth, it's another nail in the coffin for the GOP.

For the primary, the Chronicle endorsed Jeb Bush. They didn't endorse the Texan (Cruz) or any of the conservative candidates. They are owned and controlled by Hearst. Go read the history of Wendy Davis and try to find one reason a conservative news outlet would endorse her for Senator.

I dare say that both parties have not had a "dearth of any worthy candidates" for quite some time. This is not unique to the GOP. The process is broken. In my view, until we get this down to a 6-9 month campaign process instead of 18-20, we will never get the top people to run. Until we eliminate corporate lobbyists and foreign funding sources (i.e. Soros) we will continue to see the biggest narcissists and sociopaths with the strongest ties to big money.

There is a centrist core of Americans, but the conservative and liberal divide is getting wider every day. I don't like it. Both the RNC and DNC only care for large federal government, overreach and increased control of our rights and freedoms. $20 trillion in debt?  Neither party did that on their own. 15 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Neither party did that on their own.

Trump offers the chance for change to the status quo. Clinton, at best, offers more of the same crap as we have had. At worst, it could be the most corrupt administration in history.

[ItsOver]

For the primary, the Chronicle endorsed Jeb Bush. They didn't endorse the Texan (Cruz) or any of the conservative candidates. They are owned and controlled by Hearst. Go read the history of Wendy Davis and try to find one reason a conservative news outlet would endorse her for Senator.

I dare say that both parties have had a "dearth of any worthy candidates" for quite some time. This is not unique to the GOP. The process is broken. In my view, until we get this down to a 6-9 month campaign process instead of 18-20, we will never get the top people to run. Until we eliminate corporate lobbyists and foreign funding sources (i.e. Soros) we will continue to see the biggest narcissists and sociopaths with the strongest ties to big money.

There is a centrist core of Americans, but the conservative and liberal divide is getting wider every day. I don't like it. Both the RNC and DNC only care for large federal government, overreach and increased control of our rights and freedoms. $20 trillion in debt?  Neither party did that on their own. 15 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Neither party did that on their own.

Trump offers the chance for change to the status quo. Clinton, at best, offers more of the same crap as we have had. At worst, it could be the most corrupt administration in history.

Great assessment, GS.  Want more of the same?  This is your pick.  Enjoy.

[Lt.Uhura]

...
There is a centrist core of Americans, but the conservative and liberal divide is getting wider every day. I don't like it....

Trump offers the chance for change to the status quo. Clinton, at best, offers more of the same crap as we have had. At worst, it could be the most corrupt administration in history.

How can you reconcile your dislike of the widening conservative/liberal divide with voting for Trump--a poster boy for divisiveness?

[GuerrillaUnReal]

How can you reconcile your dislike of the widening conservative/liberal divide with voting for Trump--a poster boy for divisiveness?

This literally just made me laugh out loud.

[ItsOver]

This literally just made me laugh out loud.

Same here.  It would even make this dude secretly chuckle to himself.

[GravitySucks]

How can you reconcile your dislike of the widening conservative/liberal divide with voting for Trump--a poster boy for divisiveness?

I look at it as the only way to keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House. Nothing more complex than that.

The media parses and hypes any comment Trump makes in order to paint him as your "poster boy for divisiveness." If you can't see that, I can't help you.

Changing "we need a temporary halt to importing refugees from Muslim countries until we can properly vett them" to "Trump wants to ban all Muslims" creates the divisiveness.

I don't believe you and I will ever agree on a candidate for this, or any election. I know you won't change my mind, and I am fairly sure I won't change yours. We could probably sit across the table from each other and share a meal without a problem, but we just see the world through two different lenses.

[ItsOver]

...I don't believe you and I will ever agree on a candidate for this, or any election. I know you won't change my mind, and I am fairly sure I won't change yours. We could probably sit across the table from each other and share a meal without a problem, but we just see the world through two different lenses.

Yep.  That's why I concluded long ago that any internet discussion related to politics is pretty much for personal entertainment value only.  My time is better spent either taking a dump or adding to the GNS thread and taking a dump is usually much more productive.

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

[GuerrillaUnReal]

[mikuthing01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaqvc-0XDMM

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

“Humans appear to have some need to look down on someone; there’s just a basic tribalistic impulse in all of us,” Vance recently told The American Conservative. “And if you’re an elite white professional, working-class whites are an easy target: You don’t have to feel guilty for being a racist or a xenophobe. By looking down on the hillbilly, you can get that high of self-righteousness and superiority without violating any of the moral norms of your own tribe.”

[...]

Trump’s attacks on the media and political correctness make Vance’s people stand up and cheer. From the Democrats, they draw the same sense of condescension that struck Vance when, at Yale, another student said she couldn’t believe he was in the Marines because he was a nice guy....Trump’s me-against-everybody combativeness, his refusal to back down, his vows to disrupt Washington deal-making are giving the hillbilly class a feeling they haven’t had in decades: that they’ve got a friend at the top.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/30/why-white-trash-americans-are-flocking-to-donald-trump/

[Zetaspeak]

Anyone watching Trump go into hyperdrive on Twitter the last few days? He's going to a bantz level never seen before by man. Trump also has about two million more followers on Twitter than the last time I looked a few weeks ago.

I was going to make a thread about this, but since you brought it up I will put it up here. Do you not notice something odd with A LOT of Trump twitter supporters. The thing that first caught my eye was the unusual amount of attractive 20-something year old profile photos of women who are pro Trump. I mean how are they all over twitter but you never hear this demo calling talk radio or in Fox news demo statistics?  First I didn't think much of it and just ignored it, but then I took a second look and they all seem exactly the same.

Profile photo of an attractive woman in her 20s, bio/banner praising Trump. No other link to other social media accounts (No facebook/Instagram) 100% of tweets either praising Trump/bashing Hillary/ national political views so far right it sounds like KingofKings. These "women" never have a movie review, go to a sporting event, comment on a TV show, they never go to a concert or have an opinion on any current music. They have no local friends, they don't talk to their family on twitter, they don't talk about going to any local event or have opinion on local storie and also no selfies or other pictures of themselves on twitter with friends or family or at events. So you telling me we are suppose to believe that there's a bunch of attractive 20 year old attractive women who is spending countless hours during the summer online retweeting pro trump tweets and anti Hillary tweets and giving constant opinion on "read meat" Right wing political talking points.

Something just smells fishy, this isn't just a couple of them, there are hundreds of them out there, all following the same pattern, and I was just talking about the "attractive female" there's also the common "black guy for Trump" and "Hispanic girl for Trump"  and of course the "Bernie fan who know loves Trump" which all follow the same suspicious pattern I mentioned above. What really sad is some of these people have thousands of followers, and I figure it bots/fakes following bots/fakes to pad the numbers, but I am sure some genuine Trump fans are too, which is just so sad. There's even been speculation out there that some of the more famous pro-Trump accounts out there (that's been posted on here) is actually the same person working a bunch of accounts.

There's been some interesting articles about Trump bots, one interesting piece brought to light Trump high "retweet/like/replies" for all his tweets. They studied it and showed that many Pro-Trump accounts would tweet Trump less than 5-seconds after he tweets at times with memes and with generic words of praise. Which of course it's humanly impossible to get notified a tweets was made, read it, type out a response, and at times find and add a meeme. All in under 5 seconds. The only conclusion is there a bunch of spam bots throwing pro Trump stuff out there. Some article below study this.

http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/06/inside-donald-trumps-twitter-bot-fan-club.html Inside Turmp Twittebot fan club
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433870/donald-trumps-twitter-supporters-might-be-fake Trump twitter supporters might be fake

[GuerrillaUnReal]

I was going to make a thread about this, but since you brought it up I will put it up here. Do you not notice something odd with A LOT of Trump twitter supporters. The thing that first caught my eye was the unusual amount of attractive 20-something year old profile photos of women who are pro Trump. I mean how are they all over twitter but you never hear this demo calling talk radio or in Fox news demo statistics?  First I didn't think much of it and just ignored it, but then I took a second look and they all seem exactly the same.

Please name a political show young attractive 20-something year old women are calling into?