President Donald J. Trump

[Zetaspeak]

How could you not vote for the only man in the race who will protect America from the group that the other candidate founded?  :

What is the difference now of Trump and wino on the street corner with a cardboard sign. His comments just get more absurd and I wonder if people outside his 35% of very loyal supporters are just ignoring him. Even when he does have a point, he exaggerates it so much that it loses the plot. Perfect example of the echo chamber effect, Trump says a ridiculous comment and the Yes-Men are all "yeah, yeah let them have it" while the majority of people look at him and thing he's totally unhinged.

Speaking of echo chambers, Drudge and Fox News haven't mentioned Trump special creepy ex-congressman friend that showed up behind him on the rally. How did such "credible" news outlets that found it sooooo important to focus on who sits behind Hillary somehow forgot this.

That Florida rally sure was eventful, Trump was introduced by Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, The same AG that during the Trump U case in Florida, dropped the charges... coincidently after Trump Foundation donated $25,000 to her campaign. A story the media hardly every touched upon. Once again something that Trump yells about that he's against that he actually did it himself.

[Juan]

Try telling one that Progressiveism is the US version of Mussolini's fascism. Government control of private business - top down rule - both secular Calvinists.

[SredniVashtar]

I'm typing this from my safe space, just so you know.

It is funny how quickly left leaning people are to invoke Hitler whenever they want to destroy someone, but never talk about Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot/the Khmer Rouge, and others too numerous to list.

The next time Lenin or Pol Pot tries to run for President then perhaps we'll find out. Actually, the Hitler comparisons are inexact because at least Hitler had a coherent programme. It's not just a case of 'I've got a lot of money [so he says] and everything will be alright'. I don't know about Pol Pot, but the first 3 were intellectuals; that's why you can't compare them to Trump, who has obviously never read a book that didn't contain lift-up flaps.

This is what can happen when some groups want to 'fundamentally change/install a new regime/system' in a country and will indulge in any number of methods to eliminate opposition. Genocide can take any number of forms-  "mass killings", democide, politicide, "classicide". They also employ terror campaigns, civil war, land reforms,"purges", "repression" and "mass killings". It is estimated that communism has a death toll between 85 and 100 million people and yet they don't seem as worried about this ideology as they are of a defeated and long dead Hitler.

That's because it isn't relevant. Fascist leaders are on the rise around the world, communist ones aren't. I actually watched Trump's speech at the GOP convention (an hour I won't get back) and he did all but unzip and wave it around. There was no content at all, purely playing to the gallery about what a tough guy he was.

We are seeing police assassinated, domestic and foreign terrorism on American soil, anti American and Constitution groups seeking political influence, government agencies used to harass and destroy private citizens and opposition political/voter groups, and the MSM exposed as a propaganda apparatus for the DNC.

You forgot to include dogs and cats living together.

More and more stories alleging collusion between private groups and government departments are emerging- what does it take for people to set aside this idiotic cheerleading for one side or the other and start demanding real answers and accountability? People here may hate Trump but at least he's asking some serious questions and the attacks on him are exposing the MSM for what they really are.

He's doing a pretty good job of undermining himself. His problem isn't that he's being misquoted, it's that he's being quoted accurately. Anyway, I assume you aren't going to include Fox News in this tidal Wave of anti-Trump bigotry. I'm sure the majority of the media don't like Trump, but that's because most people are reasonably sane. I know Caligula once named his horse consul of Rome, but after that the idea of President Trump has to be up there among the  top five most bizarre political leaders. He might as well name Falkie Defence Secretary while he's at it. And yes, I spelled it 'Defence', sue me!

Oh, and I forgot to post a disclaimer for all those special snowflakes who will be triggered by my opinion and will no doubt report me to the great and powerful MV. I'll have to trust in our benevolent dictator's mercy and wisdom not to ban me. 

*WARNING* Not for people who cannot tolerate a POV other than their own.

Don't worry, I'll make sure you're reported, after I've finished taking my thumb out of my mouth.

[Lt.Uhura]

...
It is to the level of insulting everyone's intelligence, this daily anti Trump garbage of lies, rhetoric, and insane comparisons to Hitler.
How about the left...

That's right.  Trump's continued lies, rhetoric and parallels to dictators certainly is fueling the anti Trump movement. If he had refrained from this self-destructive nonsense we could have had a presidential campaign that didn't insult our intelligence--but one of constructive debate and mutual respect.

And your old left versus right arguments frequently employed in previous campaigns, are now moot.  Increasing numbers of stalwart right-wing Rebublicans are publicly disassociating themselves from Trump in an attempt to salvage the campaigns of down-ballot GOP candidates.  Trump is his own worst enemy.

[=Schlyder=]

That's right.  Trump's continued lies, rhetoric and parallels to dictators certainly is fueling the anti Trump movement. If he had refrained from this self-destructive nonsense we could have had a presidential campaign that didn't insult our intelligence--but one of constructive debate and mutual respect.

And your old left versus right arguments frequently employed in previous campaigns, are now moot.  Increasing numbers of stalwart right-wing Rebublicans are publicly disassociating themselves from Trump in an attempt to salvage the campaigns of down-ballot GOP candidates.  Trump is his own worst enemy.

go back to your fucking delusions, and wait for the free helicopter ride.

[HedgehogNorman]

http://tinyletter.com/Daniel_Hanson/letters/the-scandal-of-narcissism-s-normalcy

A good (long) read, written by a friend of mine.

[WOTR]

Oh, and I forgot to post a disclaimer for all those special snowflakes who will be triggered by my opinion and will no doubt report me to the great and powerful MV. I'll have to trust in our benevolent dictator's mercy and wisdom not to ban me. 

Really?  Do you honestly think that MV is receiving dozens of emails right now reporting your post- or was it just rhetoric? The post was coherent, thought out and did not even show nudity... I doubt that people are hitting the report button...

[WOTR]

That Florida rally sure was eventful, Trump was introduced by Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, The same AG that during the Trump U case in Florida, dropped the charges... coincidently after Trump Foundation donated $25,000 to her campaign.

I don't understand what it is that you are trying to say?  I'm sure that there was nothing wrong with any of this...

***Waiting on others to arrive to tell me how Hillary took millions for speeches in her "pay to play" scheme, this was only $25 000... As such it is better to vote for Trump than Hillary because while he may be corrupt, he is "not as corrupt."

[pyewacket]

Really?  Do you honestly think that MV is receiving dozens of emails right now reporting your post- or was it just rhetoric? The post was coherent, thought out and did not even show nudity... I doubt that people are hitting the report button...

I neglected to add [sarcasm]  [/sarcasm] and didn't expect anyone to take that seriously.    

We all know it takes quite a bit for MV to whip out the old ban hammer.

[WOTR]

I neglected to add [sarcasm]  [/sarcasm] and didn't expect anyone to take that seriously.    

I can see from this that you don't know me very well...

[henge0stone]

I am not a Trump fan at all but I have to say it is disturbing how the media refuses to cover Clinton's endless controversies while exaggerating or out right lying about Trumps comments. How Many DNC staffers have died mysteriously now?

[pyewacket]

I can see from this that you don't know me very well...

That's OK, WOTR. Sometimes I have the same problem myself. A particular co worker loved to prank me- he was a sweetie so I didn't mind. 

[=Schlyder=]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/10/left-planned-stage-violence-embarrass-trump/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

Just pathetic. Between the outright corruption in the Democrat Party and weak assed Saul Alinsky tactics, plus the cock gargling, leftist media bias.. it is just pathetic that leftards drink that shit up.

[chefist]

It's just a great experiment...could there have been a better messenger...of course...but D is here and has laid waste to many a foe...

He's combining messages both good and bad of what no other politician would have ever said...so now we wait and see what happens...

I believe Hil would be very bad for the country...but, if you are a fan of hers, no ill will...but her devil vagina will engulf you GODAMMIT!

[pyewacket]

I blame the GOP establishment for the present situation. They have lost touch with their constituents and dismiss their concerns. Look at the candidates they ran in the past two election cycles- McCain/Palin - McCain was unpopular with conservatives due to his voting record. You'd think they would have learned from that, but no, they then put up Romney/Ryan and he failed to define himself, many conservatives saw him as a RINO and not concerned with the average person. They needed to get it right this election and failed - again. To make things worse- they're ignoring the message sent by the people and are actively undermining their chosen candidate. It appears that the establishment GOP is willing to throw this election away rather than find a way to work with Trump and try to regain the peoples' trust. This should have occurred way before the convention. I believe people see Trump as a fighter and the only one this time around who can take on the Dems and their dirty tactics. If the GOP elites try to force Trump to exit the race like the DNC allegedly did with Bernie - they will lose a significant amount of supporters.

It does say something about the state of US politics- both parties have large segments of voters rejecting the establishment candidates.

[chefist]

It does say something about the state of US politics- both parties have large segments of voters rejecting the establishment candidates.

If the Donald could have been locked up, as a private citizen he would have been by now...if he paid off the DNC or RNC, they would have already brought out the nastiest of dirt...but no...he's still out there...

Fun to see what happens next !

[WOTR]

Fun to see what happens next !

I am going to say a Hillary victory... UNLESS Assange really does have something damning on her.  I want him to wait until one week before the election and go "all in."  Not because I want to see Trump win... Rather because I really do have a feeling that she is a dirty scum bag and if my suspicions are correct watching her go down in flames may wake a few people up.  After that, Trump can admit that he was just playing a joke and renounce the nomination leaving both parties with substantially more than they have now with their chosen candidates... Nothing.

Barring those kinds of revelations she will win.  Trump has his core of believers- but I don't think he has enough appeal to enough people who do not already support him with their hearts and minds and souls.

[TigerLily]

Good article in the New York Times on the two tax plans. Here's the summary of the summary.  Full article at nytimes.com


How Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Differ on Taxes
The New York Times The New York Times
By NEIL IRWIN
4 hrs ago

If Donald J. Trump wins the White House and proceeds to persuade Congress to pass his tax agenda, middle-class Americans will get a small tax cut, wealthy Americans and businesses will get a huge tax cut, and the budget deficit will widen substantially unless there is the type of economic boom he promises amid lower taxes and lighter regulation.

If Hillary Clinton wins the White House and persuades Congress to pass her agenda, wealthy Americans will pay higher taxes, businesses will face tax rules that make it less advantageous to relocate overseas, and the money those changes produce will go to fund the rest of her policy agenda, from child care to roads, bridges and other infrastructure.

That, in a nutshell, is the tax policy choice Americans face when they vote in November, based on plans the two candidates have released and discussed in major speeches this week.

[pyewacket]

Dr. Sebastian Gorka- Trump is right about who facilitated the growth of ISIS into the force it is now.

“I’m not his spokesman, I’m not part of his campaign, so let him talk for himself,” Gorka said of Trump. “But if he means that the Obama Administration and Hillary Clinton facilitated the growth of ISIS into the most powerful jihadi insurgency the world has ever seen, he is absolutely right.”

“Let’s just look at the facts,” he continued. “In 2008, when this Senator from Illinois became the President, and afterwards appointed Hillary as his Secretary of State, at that moment in time, ISIS didn’t exist. Al Qaeda in Iraq, the forerunner of ISIS, was one regional franchise inside Iraq. When we withdrew our troops â€" when we started to cook the books on intelligence, as you hear from the CENTCOM analysts â€" then we facilitated the rise of ISIS. With these false red lines in Syria that meant nothing, all the things were put in place by this Administration to help this former al Qaeda franchise become a trans-regional insurgency with more than 80,000 fighters today. That’s facts.”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/dr-sebastian-gorka-trump-right-obama-clinton-facilitated-growth-isis-powerful-jihadi-insurgency-world-ever-seen/

[Jackstar]

I am not a Trump fan at all but I have to say it is disturbing how the media refuses to cover Clinton's endless controversies while exaggerating or out right lying about Trumps comments. How Many DNC staffers have died mysteriously now?

You think that's bad? Just wait until you find out what they've been covering up about Waco!

[albrecht]

Good article in the New York Times on the two tax plans. Here's the summary of the summary.  Full article at nytimes.com


How Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Differ on Taxes
The New York Times The New York Times
By NEIL IRWIN
4 hrs ago

If Donald J. Trump wins the White House and proceeds to persuade Congress to pass his tax agenda, middle-class Americans will get a small tax cut, wealthy Americans and businesses will get a huge tax cut, and the budget deficit will widen substantially unless there is the type of economic boom he promises amid lower taxes and lighter regulation.

If Hillary Clinton wins the White House and persuades Congress to pass her agenda, wealthy Americans will pay higher taxes, businesses will face tax rules that make it less advantageous to relocate overseas, and the money those changes produce will go to fund the rest of her policy agenda, from child care to roads, bridges and other infrastructure.

That, in a nutshell, is the tax policy choice Americans face when they vote in November, based on plans the two candidates have released and discussed in major speeches this week.

Regardless of tax plans the only issue that matters is the border and immigration. Hillary promises to continue the Obama open-border doctrine with even less border controls and even more illegals (which she wants to make legal,) "refugees," and asylum seekers. The system (schools, hospitals, EMS, police, welfare, CPS, etc) is already over-burdened and could collapse (maybe their motivation is just the Cloward-Piven stuff) with the importation of more young, uneducated, diseased, and poor people especially with the actual honest and hardworking illegals (the majority) bringing over many of their family members who are not in the workforce but use our system (if you have a kid you get EBT, free schools, free medical, free food in schools, etc.) Not to mention the dangers of importing corruption, crime, and terrorism. Even countries like Mexico have a border and laws about immigration. No reason the USA can't have similar ones. And if Islamic countries won't take Muslim refugees, due to the costs and terrorism risk, why should we? If they are honest immigrants with no criminal background and their identity can be verified and have necessary skills, wealth, or training we need than they can go through proper channels and obtain a VISA or do the process to emigrate. Simple.

[pyewacket]

Khizr Khan, the Gold Star father who lectured Donald Trump about the Constitution at the Democratic National Convention last month, has been touted by the media as a constitutional expert, on par with a Supreme Court Justice. However, far from being a constitutional expert or even a seasoned attorney, the 66-year-old Pakistani immigrant only recently obtained a license to practice law.

A résumé posted on his website (removed from the Internet last week) lists court admission and bar membership for New York state only.

A spokeswoman for the New York State Office of Court Administration in Albany, N.Y., said that Khan was admitted to the New York bar on June 22, 2010, which means he became eligible to practice law just six years ago â€" at the age of 60. He is not listed as a member of any other state bar.

No citations appear in court databases for Khan as attorney of record, based on a search of federal and state court filings through PACER and Lexis.

Nor does Khan appear to have published academic papers or law journal articles about constitutional law. In contrast, Khan’s academic papers touting Sharia law have been cited in dozens of Islamic law articles and have been used in college syllabi for Islamic law courses as recently as 2013.

And much more:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/12/khizr-khan-no-constitutional-expert/

[Lt.Uhura]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/10/left-planned-stage-violence-embarrass-trump/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/dr-sebastian-gorka-trump-right-obama-clinton-facilitated-growth-isis-powerful-jihadi-insurgency-world-ever-seen/

And much more:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/12/khizr-khan-no-constitutional-expert/

Hmm...Interesting that the Trump supporters have only ONE media source to reference in support of their candidate.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/breitbart-staffers-believe-trump-has-given-money-to-site-for?utm_term=.vm7yX7v4K#.vgB85l9pk

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-campaign-pays-breitbart-editor-8000/article/2588958

[Zetaspeak]

Breitbart (Trump media) still on this  A position that burned Trump badly, a recent Bloomberg of what Trump said/done that bothered you, this situation came in second with 75% of people polled being bothered by it (56% alot, 19% a little, 21% not at all) Yet weeks later Breitbart (who is pretty much preaching to the converted) is still having battles with these outside people. It really makes me shake my head.

Here is list of what bothered people most. From Bloomberg


The pattern of Trump is the same thing, Has an opening, instead of taking advantage, says something so stupid or exaggerated, or just make something out. Get's called on it, he double down, even triples down, after a week of battling gives in with the "I am misunderstood/ joking/ sarcastic" He just repeats the same thing every week.

That dumb thing did Trump say today. If he doesn't win Pennsylvania it's because Clinton cheated, not because Pennsylvania has gone Democrat since 1992, and in 1988 GHWB won by only 2% and every poll has Clinton up comfortably in the state. Seriously, Trump is so full of crap and it's sad anybody who buys anything he says.

[Lt.Uhura]

McConnell: GOP chances to keep Senate are 'very dicey'

The Kentucky senator said he hopes Trump "settles down and follows the script."

... Still hoping. Leopards don't change their spots, lol.

http://bigstory.ap.org/82da0641576240a7806b7e949f8b4041

[albrecht]

Hmm...Interesting that the Trump supporters have only ONE media source to reference in support of their candidate.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/breitbart-staffers-believe-trump-has-given-money-to-site-for?utm_term=.vm7yX7v4K#.vgB85l9pk

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-campaign-pays-breitbart-editor-8000/article/2588958

Why would that be a surprise considering the corporate ownership of much media, the international nature of much of the media and their corporate owners and the interlocking directorates of those companies?

Plus, they have experience with the antics and corruption of a Clinton Presidency in the past and expect lots of news and juicy stories, or at least boilerplate government issued press releases to read, in the future once she gets in because of all the new regulations she will enact and all the crime and terrorism that will happen once she opens the borders wider and imports more radical Muslims.

[FightTheFuture]

My bright red home state of South Carolina, is now in play. Wthin the magin of error. Way to go, humpers!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_81116.pdf

"I talk to myself...because I have a good brain"
               

[albrecht]

My bright red home state of South Carolina, is now in play. Wthin the magin of error. Way to go, humpers!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_81116.pdf

"I talk to myself...because I have a good brain"
             

Wow, I would've assumed it was close regardless considering the number of blacks, the former history of the Democratic party in the state until the 'flip' happened, Trump being such an obvious 'New York Yankee,' and conservative Christian-types pissed off over their candidate losing in the primaries and Trump's family antics.

[Zetaspeak]

Hmm...Interesting that the Trump supporters have only ONE media source to reference in support of their candidate.

My favorite is Drudge. It has become my favorite comedy site online. Every other day there's a SHOCK POLL !!! that comes out. First off if you get shocked that often you probably have a Neurological issue.

Secondly Drudge seems to scan all the polls (there's like at least 15 running now) desperately trying to find any good news, when he finds one with a little bit of good news (Trump GAINS, ONLY down by 3)  he'll post the SHOCK POLL. When the polling company drops Trump back again to minus 6, Drudge ignores that poll goes for another poll with good news with of course SHOCK POLL!!! (Trump GAINS down by 3!)  The poor saps who only reads Drudge must wonder how is Trump keep having SHOCK POLLS and gaining but staying in the same spot. Is Trump a dog chasing his tail?

Speaking of polls, the craziest thing I reading on twitter now is that how Trump supporters don't believe in the traditional polls, that just for example the CNN 4-way race has Clinton 45%, Trump 37%, Johnson 9%, Stein 5% and it's fine if you think it's a little off (personally I think Trump number will be a couple of points higher). But these same people are passing around online polls that have Trump 70%, Stein 17%, Johnson 8%, Clinton 5% and bragging about it.

There's my example of how many Trump supporters are delusional and  insane. They brush away a traditional poll completely, but their counterargument is a poll that has Jill Stein having triple of votes of the Democratic party candidate? Do they have any idea how crazy that sounds.

[TigerLily]

I had never heard of breitbart until I first wandered in to Bellgab Politics and saw it cited so often. So did a little investigative journalism of my own. This took a 2 minute search and are only a few articles debunking Breitbart News for misleading reporting in August alone.  Andrew Breitbart himself was quite a character. Before he was murdered by Obama. 

Breitbart News Network (known simply as Breitbart News, Breitbart or Breitbart.com) is a politically conservative[4][5][6] American news and opinion website founded in 2007 by conservative commentator and entrepreneur Andrew Breitbart (1969â€"2012). -Wikipedia



1.Conservatives Use Icy Stairs From Last Winter To Manufacture A Clinton Health Crisis

Mainstream media quickly dismissed the charge that the pictures are evidence of a health issue as a “conspiracy theory,” with CNN senior media correspondent Brian Stelter tweeting, “The photo is from February 24. She slipped,” and writing on CNN.com that the reports show “how easily photos can be distorted to take on a new and more sinister meaning.” He added that the “blog post failed to note that the photos were six months old, or that the Getty caption indicated that Clinton simply slipped while walking up the stairs.” The Daily Mail explained that the photo “is falsely being presented as some form of proof” that Clinton “is in poor health.”

The photo quickly made its way from American Mirror to other right-wing blogs, includings Drudge Report, WorldNetDaily, and Breitbart News. According to Breitbart News, the photos show Clinton “struggling to make it up the stairs, either as a result of her fragile body or perhaps because her well-documented brain injuries make it harder for her to transport herself through daily life activities.” The website RT also claimed that the “worrying photographs” have people “speculating” that “Clinton’s health could be taking a nose-dive.”



2. Breitbart Caught Passing Off Photo Of Cleveland’s NBA Championship Parade As Image Of Trump's Jacksonville Rally
Breitbart Subsequently Changed Image, But Did Not Issue Correction
UPDATE: Breitbart Issues Correction Blaming "Social Media"

In an August 3 tweet, Washington Examiner staff correspondent T. Becket Adams highlighted Breitbart.com attempting to pass off a picture of Cleveland Cavaliers fans as an image of a Trump rally.


3. Breitbart Duped by Fake News (Again)
The conservative "news" site cited a fake news article to back up claims of paid protesters at Trump rallies.
Jeff Zarronandia
Jeff Zarronandia
Aug 07, 2016