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Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Quote from: albrecht on August 04, 2016, 10:28:59 AM
That map is incorrect, the "Red Chinese" portion should show much of Canada, especially Vancouver, Africa, Australia, and the US (both in some rural areas but especially on the coast's major cities) and who knows what other holdings they own globally.

You forgot Panama. They are wise people. They know they have to have their hands on the Panama Canal for all of their shipping industries.

whoozit

Quote from: Jackstar on August 04, 2016, 07:47:21 AM
Islam is the religion. A Muslim is an adherent of Islam.

Your post seems overly long to make this distinction. Also, I think it should be spelled "Mooslim," since that's how it's pronounced, but whatever, you know me, I don't judge.
You just proved RC D's point.  Please stick with your wacky conspiracy theories.  Your "help" isn't.

Quote from: whoozit on August 04, 2016, 12:40:02 PM
You just proved RC D's point.  Please stick with your wacky conspiracy theories.  Your "help" isn't.
Yeah, poor guy doesn't understand the difference between Islam and Islamism.  Sad.

albrecht

Quote from: Astrid Galactic on August 04, 2016, 10:51:24 AM
You forgot Panama. They are wise people. They know they have to have their hands on the Panama Canal for all of their shipping industries.
Yeah, the Chinese are buying up things, like ports etc, all over the world. Taking advantage especially in countries like Greece in dire financial trouble and also building things for countries to gain favor in places in Africa and closer to home in the Caribbean,

whoozit

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on August 04, 2016, 02:04:14 PM
Yeah, poor guy doesn't understand the difference between Islam and Islamism.  Sad.
It is amazing to me that people are already on the intertubes and don't do 30 seconds of research before shooting themselves in the foot.  I guess we're screwed.

Trump needs to get his shit together if he wants to increase his voting base.  He is sabotaging himself going over those old controversies like the Megyn Kelly "blood coming from her eyes and other places" embarrassment.  Either he is a complete buffoon or a saboteur who wants Hillary to win.  I pick the former because frankly I don't think he is smart enough to do the latter.  Time to shape up or ship out, Donald.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 04, 2016, 02:38:24 PM
Trump needs to get his shit together if he wants to increase his voting base.  He is sabotaging himself going over those old controversies like the Megyn Kelly "blood coming from her eyes and other places" embarrassment.  Either he is a complete buffoon or a saboteur who wants Hillary to win.  I pick the former because frankly I don't think he is smart enough to do the latter.  Time to shape up or ship out, Donald.
Everytime I think the guy can no longer surprise me - he surprises me.  Have you been following his tales of watching "top secret" Iranian film footage?  I am seriously beginning to wonder if he is of sound mind.

"Despite Donald Trump’s claim of having seen video footage of the $400 million cash delivery to Iran having been acknowledged as false by his own campaign, the Manhattan billionaire kicked off a rally Thursday afternoon by repeating the tall tale."

Even his own campaign team seems to be saying "Yep, the dude is just making shit up."

I know you are worried about the SC, 21st, but I would say you should be very afraid of losing both houses as well.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-iran-money-video-226682#ixzz4GOzlVLzu


Quote from: RealCool Daddio on August 04, 2016, 02:43:57 PM
Everytime I think the guy can no longer surprise me - he surprises me.  Have you been following his tales of watching "top secret" Iranian film footage?  I am seriously beginning to wonder if he is of sound mind.

"Despite Donald Trump’s claim of having seen video footage of the $400 million cash delivery to Iran having been acknowledged as false by his own campaign, the Manhattan billionaire kicked off a rally Thursday afternoon by repeating the tall tale."

Even his own campaign team seems to be saying "Yep, the dude is just making shit up."

I know you are worried about the SC, 21st, but I would say you should be very afraid of losing both houses as well.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-iran-money-video-226682#ixzz4GOzlVLzu

The Senate is in jeopardy for sure.  Republicans will lose seats but I don't think they will fall into the minority in the House.  As far as Trump goes, I wasn't aware of this supposed Iran footage.  Thanks for the link. :D

I'd like those on this board who are avid Trump supporters to defend the way he is managing his campaign.  What do you think about Trump's latest gaffes?  They are indefensible in my eyes.  The guy is an arrogant blowhard who likes to shit on everybody.

whoozit

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 04, 2016, 02:57:16 PM
I'd like those on this board who are avid Trump supporters to defend the way he is managing his campaign.  What do you think about Trump's latest gaffes?  They are indefensible in my eyes.  The guy is an arrogant blowhard who likes to shit on everybody.
I'm not an avid Trump supporter.  As I've said before this election is a choice between a hershey squirt and a shart, either way it won't be pretty.  I've always thought Trump was in it to throw it away to Hillary.  I'm starting to root for the Giant Meteor.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 04, 2016, 02:57:16 PM
The Senate is in jeopardy for sure.  Republicans will lose seats but I don't think they will fall into the minority in the House.  As far as Trump goes, I wasn't aware of this supposed Iran footage.  Thanks for the link. :D

I'd like those on this board who are avid Trump supporters to defend the way he is managing his campaign.  What do you think about Trump's latest gaffes?  They are indefensible in my eyes.  The guy is an arrogant blowhard who likes to shit on everybody.
The avid Trump supporters seem to be avoiding this thread lately...

Zetaspeak



*sigh* So this photo been passed around all day yesterday saying this is the crowd at a Trump rally. The second I looked at it I thought something was fishy about it. Unfortunately Twitter Trump supporters had no problem passing it around as their BS meter seems to be on extended summer vacation. Breitbart even posted it before taking it down. BTW the photo was from the Cleveland Cavs NBA championship parade.

Today was the first time I have seen some Trump supporters (not many but one or two) actually speaking out against the Trump-bots out there. I talked about Trump-bots before as these twitter accounts that are super aggressive for Trump/anti-Hillary but don't seem to have any other human personality about them. There are some Trump fans (who do seem like real  people) getting a bit annoyed that these Trump bots continue passing obvious false information and obvious photoshop photos and making the entire supporters of Trump look dumb.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 04, 2016, 02:38:24 PM
Trump needs to get his shit together if he wants to increase his voting base.  He is sabotaging himself going over those old controversies like the Megyn Kelly "blood coming from her eyes and other places" embarrassment.  Either he is a complete buffoon or a saboteur who wants Hillary to win.  I pick the former because frankly I don't think he is smart enough to do the latter.  Time to shape up or ship out, Donald.

Well said, it has to be one or the other. Forget Trump and Hillary, forget Republican or Democrat. But just count the times Trump does something that seems like such a bad move to do in an election. Everything from, kicking a baby and mother out because of crying, dissing a gold star family, saying your VP endorsed the other guy because he felt forced by establishment (ie weak-minded) and recently opening talking about nuclear weapons when one of the general public big concerns is his temperament. Does anybody dear to do that after Johnson/Goldwater (if this continues, we might be getting close to that territory)

New Trump supporter (you're not helping) moment today. As we know yesterday at Pence rally a military mother was booed and taken out of the rally. Today during a Trump rally in Maine  a few people stood up in silent and showed a pocket sized constitution, they were booed and removed from the area. HOLY F*CK!! Remember when Cruz said "Vote your conscious and vote for somebody who will defend the constitution" and the RNC full of Trump supporters automatically thought that was an attack on Trump, and now booing and kicking out people for simply showing the constitution. What has the GOP have come to!? Remember Fox poll had Hillary over Trump 49% to 42% on who will preserve and protect the constitution. The REPUBLICANS are the ones now who seem to hate the constitution and it's leader the one who doesn't respect it. WOW... OH PS, Why the hell is Trump spending time in Maine with 1 electoral vote available?







Rix Gins

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 04, 2016, 02:57:16 PM
The Senate is in jeopardy for sure.  Republicans will lose seats but I don't think they will fall into the minority in the House.  As far as Trump goes, I wasn't aware of this supposed Iran footage.  Thanks for the link. :D

I'd like those on this board who are avid Trump supporters to defend the way he is managing his campaign.  What do you think about Trump's latest gaffes?  They are indefensible in my eyes.  The guy is an arrogant blowhard who likes to shit on everybody.

If Trump's advisors are blithely slapping him on the shoulder and telling him to continue with his spontaneous 'zingers' then he should give them all the well known "You're fired!"  and replace the team with people like we see on this forum.  People like albricht and 21'st Century, and others like RealCool (surprise, though I doubt he would take the job)...and myself too, come to think of it.  lol  I think that we could do a bang up job of pointing Trump in the right direction...at least make the contest a bit more interesting.   

If, on the other hand, Trump is paying no attention to good, albeit 'paid' advice, then all is lost.  If he continues to shoot his mouth off then he is doing nothing more than paving the way for an easy Clinton victory.  Imagine Hillary going on and on about her email problems, or her and Bill's foundation.  Those are about the only subjects that could cause her to shoot her own foot, but of course she has wisely remained silent. 

I just wish I could spend five minutes with Donald and tell him to just stfu with vocalizing what ever pops into his mind.  Stick with what got him to this point in the first place...border security and the dangers of terrorism.  My god, he could certainly throw the terrorist problem into the spotlight on a daily basis if he wanted too.  But no, he comes off sounding like a complete asshole, complaining about a crying baby and all.

I wonder why his advisors don't resign, if indeed Trump isn't following their advice.

 

albrecht

Maybe Trump constant refrain of "it is rigged" is an inside joke for Billary and a signal for "those in the know" that he is after all a Billary plant? I love his anti-politically correct and nativist stance but if you want to win a national election you have to conform and pander to other people also, especially since the demographics have changed due to the suicidal 1965 immigration reform, no id voting, and the open-borders. Or, like Billary, just shut-up and don't hold press conferences and when you do speak or allow a reporter or voter to talk to you be measured and stick to the message. Though I like the Trump, Bidens, etc guy who speak off-the-cuff and make funny comments, it is not the way for modern politics.

onan

Quote from: albrecht on August 04, 2016, 04:15:21 PM
Maybe Trump constant refrain of "it is rigged" is an inside joke for Billary and a signal for "those in the know" that he is after all a Billary plant? I love his anti-politically correct and nativist stance but if you want to win a national election you have to conform and pander to other people also, especially since the demographics have changed due to the suicidal 1965 immigration reform, no id voting, and the open-borders. Or, like Billary, just shut-up and don't hold press conferences and when you do speak or allow a reporter or voter to talk to you be measured and stick to the message. Though I like the Trump, Bidens, etc guy who speak off-the-cuff and make funny comments, it is not the way for modern politics.

A good friend of mine thinks that Trump and Hillary are much more similar than different. He continues with "the powers that be, the money people, would like either one because they will both favor wall street. However, Hillary will be given a wider latitude with spending."

I dunno, I am wearying from the back and forth.

albrecht

Quote from: onan on August 04, 2016, 04:34:02 PM
A good friend of mine thinks that Trump and Hillary are much more similar than different. He continues with "the powers that be, the money people, would like either one because they will both favor wall street. However, Hillary will be given a wider latitude with spending."

I dunno, I am wearying from the back and forth.
I know. I'm getting sick of it. And how people are so invested psychologically to a candidate (hint unless you are a very rich donor to Foundations, business, or campaigns the millionaire/billionaire politicians don't really care about you- whether Hillary or Trump) and even causing problems within friends and families. Ugh, I don't understand why many people can't be friends or at least tolerate with people with different views?

Haven't said that if we hadn't have allowed the Presidency, Court, and DC to assume almost King-like power and almost everything handled in a top-down matter from DC to the hoi polloi and adhered to ideas of the Founders a Presidential election would not matter that much.

Quote from: albrecht on August 04, 2016, 04:40:07 PM
I know. I'm getting sick of it. And how people are so invested psychologically to a candidate (hint unless you are a very rich donor to Foundations, business, or campaigns the millionaire/billionaire politicians don't really care about you- whether Hillary or Trump) and even causing problems within friends and families. Ugh, I don't understand why many people can't be friends or at least tolerate with people with different views?

Haven't said that if we hadn't have allowed the Presidency, Court, and DC to assume almost King-like power and almost everything handled in a top-down matter from DC to the hoi polloi and adhered to ideas of the Founders a Presidential election would not matter that much.

Exactly!!!  Well-said.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on August 04, 2016, 03:22:18 PM
The avid Trump supporters seem to be avoiding this thread lately...

     Where is chefist, VoteQuimby, VtaGeezer, rekcuf and mv, praise be his holy name?  You know who is going to look good after this debacle?  Ted Cruz.  At least he's had the good sense to refrain from endorsing Trump.


pyewacket

Maybe this mess is the culmination of the decades of abuse of our system by both parties. The same system that made us the country of choice for generations of people fleeing oppression.

The voters are to blame as well- too many stand by someone who has done nothing to deserve their trust. This applies to both sides. Both party leaderships use the voters then ignore most of them when they don't need them any longer.

I never thought I'd ever see something like this happen, but it seems to be a trend in our society. Re-treds, sequels, same old worn out ideas and people. Trump is a new element and not a member of one of the 'ruling families', so he may have attracted the people who desperately want someone new. Someone to listen to their concerns and understand that many are barely hanging on. The media and activists do everything they can to stir up more conflict.

I don't think the Republican leadership expected the people to reject their chosen one, Jeb! Like we needed another Bush - it's only been 8 years since the last one. They don't seem to understand that many people don't want an 'it's my turn' candidate. Same goes for the Dems and Hillary.

This is how I imagined politics in some third world country, not the world's only super power.

"A plague on both houses!"   

Jackstar

Quote from: whoozit on August 04, 2016, 12:40:02 PM
You just proved RC D's point.

That's not terribly surprising, as I agree with him.


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Please stick with your wacky conspiracy theories.  Your "help" isn't.

You're new here, but as my mother was still alive when you registered here, I'm going to cut you some slack. Meanwhile, where are you at on the Kennedy murder and the Waco, TX fertilizer explosion? I wanna check your street cred.

Jackstar

Quote from: whoozit on August 04, 2016, 02:28:31 PM
It is amazing to me that people are already on the intertubes and don't do 30 seconds of research before shooting themselves in the foot.

Oh, the irony.

whoozit

Sorry I missed the sarcasm.  I forgot that it's generally implied in your posts.  :P

whoozit

Quote from: Jackstar on August 04, 2016, 06:51:35 PM
Oh, the irony.
It was a big heavy one that landed on my head.  Stung a bit too.

Jackstar

Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 04, 2016, 02:38:24 PM
the Megyn Kelly "blood coming from her eyes and other places" embarrassment.

I'm puzzled... who do you think was embarrassed by that exchange? Really?

Jackstar

Quote from: whoozit on August 04, 2016, 06:52:08 PM
Sorry I missed the sarcasm.

I wasn't necessarily being sarcastic--saying "Mooslim" out loud, in public, in context, repeatedly, gives me a bit of a chubby these days, I'm the first to admit--but I grant you that my layered message was certainly more obtuse than is the commonly recognized standard, and I thank you for your genuflection.




Quote from: pyewacket on August 04, 2016, 06:19:32 PM
Maybe this mess is the culmination of the decades of abuse of our system by both parties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXxy8cjZQA


... maybe???

whoozit

When building a petard to hoist oneself, be stingy with the explosive.

Quote from: pyewacket on August 04, 2016, 06:19:32 PM
Maybe this mess is the culmination of the decades of abuse of our system by both parties. The same system that made us the country of choice for generations of people fleeing oppression.

The voters are to blame as well- too many stand by someone who has done nothing to deserve their trust. This applies to both sides. Both party leaderships use the voters then ignore most of them when they don't need them any longer.

I never thought I'd ever see something like this happen, but it seems to be a trend in our society. Re-treds, sequels, same old worn out ideas and people. Trump is a new element and not a member of one of the 'ruling families', so he may have attracted the people who desperately want someone new. Someone to listen to their concerns and understand that many are barely hanging on. The media and activists do everything they can to stir up more conflict.   

I don't think the Republican leadership expected the people to reject their chosen one, Jeb! Like we needed another Bush - it's only been 8 years since the last one. They don't seem to understand that many people don't want an 'it's my turn' candidate. Same goes for the Dems and Hillary.

This is how I imagined politics in some third world country, not the world's only super power.

"A plague on both houses!"   

I'm sick and tired of being played by the Establishment.  A House conservative Republican, Tim Huelskamp, from Kansas got primaried and you know how the Establishment beat him?  By putting out tons of ads claiming that Huelskamp wasn't conservative.  Huelskamp didn't have the money to counter the ads.  Huelskamp is in fact one of the most conservative Republicans in the House.  I am really ticked off and I am oh so close to bolting the party.  However, that way leads to irrelevancy.  If enough conservatives left the party to form another party, I would join them.  Then the Republicans will be really sunk. We need a real alternative to the Republicans and Democrats.

Jackstar



Quote from: 21st Century Man on August 04, 2016, 07:17:57 PM
I'm sick and tired of being played by the Establishment.  A House conservative Republican, Tim Huelskamp, from Kansas got primaried and you know how the Establishment beat him?  By putting out tons of ads claiming that Huelskamp wasn't conservative.  Huelskamp didn't have the money to counter the ads.  Huelskamp is in fact one of the most conservative Republicans in the House.  I am really ticked off and I am oh so close to bolting the party.  However, that way leads to irrelevancy.  If enough conservatives left the party to form another party, I would join them.  Then the Republicans will be really sunk. We need a real alternative to the Republicans and Democrats.
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