President Donald J. Trump

[ACE of CLUBS]

Do your homework ....... Iron Eyes Cody.
More Italian than Pizza ..... (hold the anchovies)

[GravitySucks]

Being accepted as a native for a Cherokee registry, and being accepted as a native under U.S law are two different things.

From my quote, the only evidence she went public with this prior to the Republicans making a campaign issue of it is that she sent some recipes to a native cook book.

At worst you've established that she isn't perfect.  Compared to pathological liar, not self-made anything, Rapist Trump she may as well be.

And once again, you are wrong. From 1986 through 1995, she went public with her claims about being a minority by describing herself as such in the Association Directory identified in the article I linked in my post.

p.s.  Seems like you forgot your meds again. You are still awake.

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And once again, you are wrong. From 1986 through 1995, she went public with her claims about being a minority by describing herself as such in the Association Directory identified in the article I linked in my post.

p.s.  Seems like you forgot your meds again. You are still awake.

That just says 'minority,' not native.

I'm trying to get some sleep
but these motel walls are cheap

[Value Of Pi]

"So you mean, we're just a couple of white people?"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIgnscRz6Q

[Yorkshire pud]

The full article is pretty damning of Trump's chances.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/11/trump-cant-win-election-america-political-earthquake?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=176915&subid=11301906&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

But last week, when Trump launched a vicious and nakedly racist attack against Gonzalo Curiel, the judge in his Trump University fraud case, the halo around Trump began to crack â€" and it offered a useful reminder as to why Trump has practically no chance of winning the presidency. Quite simply, the Republican electorate looks nothing like the rest of the American electorate.

Trump has systematically alienated the demographic groups that he will need to win the White House
Trump’s broadsides against Judge Curiel certainly crossed a line. The presumptive GOP nominee suggested that the judge’s “bad decisions” against him were not the result of Curiel’s interpretation of the law, but rather because, as Trump put it, he’s a “Mexican” (Curiel was born in Indiana). Since Trump has a harsh view of illegal immigration from Mexico, Trump alleged that Curiel’s ethnic heritage made it impossible for him to offer unbiased judgments on Trump’s case. This is, as even Republicans have pointed out, the textbook definition of racism.

That he is openly attacking the federal judiciary, as he runs for an office with the responsibility of appointing federal judges, represents a fundamental disrespect for the rule of the law and raises legitimate issues as to whether Trump, as president, would enforce court orders with which he disagrees.

Still, it’s hard to see how Trump’s comments about Curiel were any worse than his earlier comments about Mexican criminals or his proposed Muslim ban. They practically pale next to his sinister pledge to investigate Amazon, because its CEO also owns the Washington Post and Trump has been unhappy with some of that paper’s coverage of him. In the American constitutional system, this would be an impeachable offence.

[WOTR]

The full article is pretty damning of Trump's chances.
Trump’s broadsides against Judge Curiel certainly crossed a line.

I think it was the CBC's "as it happens" who I heard interviewing one of the judge's friends about this (apparently, the judge cannot defend himself because the law and ethics do not allow it, but they do allow a man with no ethics to make any accusations he pleases.) I remember thinking in that interview and the information they gave on the judge's career that it was a perfect example of why I believe the man to be a dangerous buffoon.  Attacking an American judge without any proof of wrongdoing after the guys fairly long career (they made mention of him needing protection while he heard drug cases against Mexican drug gangs because there was a contract on his life...) is a pretty shitty thing to do.

When your only proof is "he is Mexican and therefore hates me and cannot be trusted to render an unbiased verdict" it is a little worrisome.

But, whatever... Full steam ahead- Trump for president!

[CornyCrow]

So lie to get into a position justifies it? (Ignoring that oddly phrased statement because it was, likely, done so on purpose.) Forget grammar. Why is lying good? First Nations (Indians) even in your country have a lot of problems and exploitation! So it is "ok" for someone to lie?

Well, many of us start out in life with our parents lying to us about Santa.  Maybe that is not traumatic for most, but it gives our kids a message that lying is fine.  How about if Africa is the cradle of civilization, we can all claim to be African Americans.  Are we supposed to create narrowly defined racial criteria as the Nazis did?  Should we be going there?

[CornyCrow]

She can certainly be proud of that one Native American, or black, or Chinese, or Swedish member of her family four or five generations back. I have no problem there. And she has a right to think of herself any way she likes.

But if she therefore believes that anyone else needs to think of her the same way, as Native American and not white (why not check both boxes?), that's where she and I part company. I say that regardless of how the statutes might read. 1/32 is a very small fraction to be basing your racial identity on, unless you're a lawyer who enjoys arguing a point.

I will venture that most Americans do not know their ancestors passed their grandparents.  I don't.  People who have been in this country for many generations may have all sorts of genetic mixtures in their lines.

[CornyCrow]

She has not ever applied for recognition as a member of the 3 Cherokee nations registries. They would not accept her based on the claim of 1/32 even if she did.

In 1981, she checked "White" when she went to work as a visiting professor at the University of Texas.

By 1984, she must have found it convenient to be Cherokee. She submitted 5 recipes for a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow and identified herself as Cherokee.

Before being hired at Harvard, she identified herself as a minority between 1986 and 1995 in the Association of American Law School Directory of Faculty.

Since she was a visiting professor at UT in 1981 and returned as a full professor in 1983, that may well be the first time she tried to gain some type of advantage by checking Native American. This article provides a lot of background, but does not mention how she self-identified in 1983.

If she claims this was her oral traditions in her family her entire life, why would she identify as white in 1981 and then start identifying as a minority sometime later in the 80's. Whether or not she ever gained an advantage is unknown, but it sure seems like she was checking the boxes to keep from missing out on an advantage if one existed.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

I cannot see why she should not take advantage of this.  How many blacks, years back, would try to pass for white for advantage?  It's just human nature to put your best foot forward.  I would venture that most of the guys I worked with embellished their resumes.  It's the American way.

[CornyCrow]

The thing that I find really low about Trump is that he says climate change is something invented by the Chinese to bring down US business.

Who in their right mind could believe that?  He's not a good man.

[The King of Kings]

The thing that I find really low about Trump is that he says climate change is something invented by the Chinese to bring down US business.

Who in their right mind could believe that?  He's not a good man.

True, I can't understand that one, but once again what is the alternative?

I just saw an article the other day that Hillary Clinton as Secretary as State personally signed a waiver allowing groups in Sudan to be armed who knowingly had young children as soldiers.

Compare that to some dumb tweet Donald Trump made, with Hillary purposefully arming children in the Sudan to fight.

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/09/hillary-clintons-state-department-gave-south-sudans-military-a-pass-for-its-child-soldiers/

[Richard Groyper]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/741774067368402945

[Richard Groyper]

HOW...did she think she was going to get away with it?

Her animal spirit should've foreseen this...

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/741774067368402945

It's probably more likely $50 million, and they should have added something like "and some talent at making deals" but other than that...

[Richard Groyper]

It's probably more likely $50 million, and they should have added something like "and some talent at making deals" but other than that...

Too bad she wasn't around when her ancestors were swindled out of their land...

[VtaGeezer]

It's probably more likely $50 million, and they should have added something like "and some talent at making deals" but other than that...

If you'd do a little homework, instead of swallowing the lib line, you'd see he was confirmed as a billionaire (in Forbes 400) many years before father Fred  passed away. A year ago, I, like you, thought Trump was a joke, But then I did some fact checking on the smears being streamed at him by the media and found almost all were overt lies based on innuendo and half-truth.  The globalist fear his knowledge of their cozy system business-govt hug and have given free rein to the already distorted media that they control to attack him by any means.

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If you'd do a little homework, instead of swallowing the lib line, you'd see he was confirmed as a billionaire (in Forbes 400) many years before father Fred  passed away. A year ago, I, like you, thought Trump was a joke, But then I did some fact checking on the smears being streamed at him by the media and found almost all were overt lies based on innuendo and half-truth.

Leaving aside the inheritance, his first development deal in 1970 was done entirely through the aid of his father's political connections and in which Rapist Trump received a sweetheart deal, and in 1974 he was made President of his father's development business that was said to be worth $200 million at the time.

It's a lot easier to become a billionaire when you have advantages like that, than if you're starting out by yourself with (close to) nothing.

Also, Rapist Trump was genuinely $5.9 Billion in debt in the early 1990s, and, as that text on that picture implies, were corporate bankruptcy laws the same as personal bankruptcy laws, Rapist Trump would likely now be a Vice President of Marketing at some Fortune 100 company still paying off his debt, if he hadn't committed suicide instead.

I've asked you a number of times for these supposed websites that detail how all the claims against Rapist Trump are 'overt lies' and you have yet to show me a single one.  I think it's far more likely that your claim regarding the supposed information on these websites (or wherever you got this supposed information from) is the overt lie.

[chefist]

Leaving aside the inheritance, his first development deal in 1970 was done entirely through the aid of his father's political connections and in which Rapist Trump received a sweetheart deal, and in 1974 he was made President of his father's development business that was said to be worth $200 million at the time.

It's a lot easier to become a billionaire when you have advantages like that, than if you're starting out by yourself with (close to) nothing.

Also, Rapist Trump was genuinely $5.9 Billion in debt in the early 1990s, and, as that text on that picture implies, were corporate bankruptcy laws the same as personal bankruptcy laws, Rapist Trump would likely now be a Vice President of Marketing at some Fortune 100 company still paying off his debt, if he hadn't committed suicide instead.

I've asked you a number of times for these supposed websites that detail that all the claims against Rapist Trump are 'overt lies' and you have yet to show me a single one.  I think it's far more likely that your claim regarding the supposed information on these websites (or wherever you got this supposed information from) is the overt lie.

How big was your first check from, http://correctrecord.org/

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How big was your first check from, http://correctrecord.org/

As an employee of  Hillary Clinton, it shouldn't surprise you that I had to sign a secrecy oath on that and everything else about my working for her campaign.

Damnit, now that I've mentioned that I work for this thing, I'm going to be fired from it.

[VtaGeezer]

I've asked you a number of times for these supposed websites that detail how all the claims against Rapist Trump are 'overt lies' and you have yet to show me a single one.  I think it's far more likely that your claim regarding the supposed information on these websites (or wherever you got this supposed information from) is the overt lie.

Ignorance is bliss in practice, eh?  This is no term paper and footnotes won't be furnished.  You've heard Trump.  You've heard how the media truncates and takes his words out of context.  You've seen his off-the-cuff remarks treated as policy papers.  You know every word uttered by HMH has been focus-grouped and rehearsed. You've heard her repeatedly misquote and misrepresent Trump but your blind faith never wavers.  "Sure she lies, but gee, saving the world takes some dishonesty." says your conscience).  You're blind and are afraid to move past the superficial lest you see you're stuck in a deeply rutted PC path.

[chefist]

As an employee of  Hillary Clinton, it shouldn't surprise you that I had to sign a secrecy oath on that and everything else about my working for her campaign.

Damnit, now that I've mentioned that I work for this thing, I'm going to be fired from it.

Also noticed you had no words of condolences for those who were murdered by an Islamic terrorist in Orlando this morning. Clearly there is a reason why you didn't mention that. Black hearted liberal...

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Ignorance is bliss in practice, eh?  This is no term paper and footnotes won't be furnished.  You've heard Trump.  You've heard how the media truncates and takes his words out of context.  You've seen his off-the-cuff remarks treated as policy papers.  You know every word uttered by HMH has been focus-grouped and rehearsed. You've heard her repeatedly misquote and misrepresent Trump but your blind faith never wavers.  "Sure she lies, but gee, saving the world takes some dishonesty." says your conscience).  You're blind and are afraid to move past the superficial lest you see you're stuck in a deeply rutted PC path.

Right, just as I thought these imagined websites don't exist.  You are both a retard and an overt liar.

[aldousburbank]

Black hearted liberal...

Dude, of color hearted liberal is the preferred nomenclature.

[chefist]

Dude, of color hearted liberal is the preferred nomenclature.

my bad...red hearted liberal...oh, shoot, that is a commie or native American reference. Uh, generally vile hearted liberal. Does that work?

[VtaGeezer]

Right, just as I thought these imagined websites don't exist.  You are both a retard and an overt liar.

Find a child to play your pedantic games with.  They may be impressed.  No one else is.

[aldousburbank]

my bad...red hearted liberal...oh, shoot, that is a commie or native American reference. Uh, generally vile hearted liberal. Does that work?

Eh, I prefer dipshit, as in, "Steve is such a dipshit for stealing his mom's weed." I guess I'm just oldschool that way.

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Also noticed you had no words of condolences for those who were murdered by an Islamic terrorist in Orlando this morning. Clearly there is a reason why you didn't mention that. Black hearted liberal...

I had nothing to add that hadn't already said. 

It seems some Republicans are torn between being unhappy over the Islamic Terrorism and having a difficult time hiding their (likely) pleasure that it was gays who were killed.



There had been a link to some conservative discussion board on the comments section on the story that the poster claimed had a lot of comments that expressed glee with this terrorist incident, but the post was deleted: https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/12/texas-official-tweets-reap-what-you-sow-after-mass-shooting/#disqus_thread

I'm sure you could find such discussions for yourself if you check out the usual suspects, assuming those posts expressing glee haven't also been deleted.

[Dr. MD MD]

Eh, I prefer dipshit, as in, "Steve is such a dipshit for stealing his mom's weed." I guess I'm just oldschool that way.

Your mom wouldn't share with you?! Fucking bitch! 

[chefist]

I had nothing to add that hadn't already said. 

It seems some Republicans are torn between being unhappy over the Islamic Terrorism and having a difficult time hiding their (likely) pleasure that it was gays killed.



There had been a link to some conservative discussion board on the comments section on the story that the poster claimed had a lot of comments that expressed glee with this terrorist incident, but the post was deleted: https://politicalwire.com/2016/06/12/texas-official-tweets-reap-what-you-sow-after-mass-shooting/#disqus_thread

I'm sure you could find such discussions for yourself if you check out the usual suspects, assuming those posts expressing glee haven't also been deleted.

No, you are as cold blooded as the idiot that made that tweet (it must be confirmed, as Obama would say)..a few more bucks from Hillary for you.

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Find a child to play your pedantic games with.  They may be impressed.  No one else is.

Right, asking for you to back up your claim is a 'pedantic game.'  I don't know why any child would be impressed.  You have the mentality of a retarded three year old and you're not impressed.