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President Donald J. Trump

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VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on June 14, 2016, 11:14:56 PM
I`m a strict Hamiltonian.
A Hamiltonian.  Wow.  Impressive. Most think you're a joke.


Quote from: VtaGeezer on June 15, 2016, 06:50:08 AM
A Hamiltonian.  Wow.  Impressive. Most think you're a joke.



LOL

He also was for taxing whiskey.

TigerLily

Quote from: nooryisawesome on June 15, 2016, 07:01:00 AM
LOL

He also was for taxing whiskey.

No wonder he was shot

starrmtn001

Gawd, this band ROCKS!!! and the guitarist is HAWT!!! ;D
I haven't found out who they are yet.  If you know who this band is, PLEASE, tell me ASAP!  Thank you kindly. ;)

LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Atlanta, Georgia (6-15-16) Donald Trump Fox Theatre Atlanta Rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAQwoh9RxQ8

Quote from: VtaGeezer on June 15, 2016, 06:50:08 AM
A Hamiltonian.  Wow.  Impressive. Most think you're a joke.



Ha! I see what ya did there.

Sure, old-timer, I may be a joke, but at least I'm not so simpleminded as to cast my vote  for a joke, which is more than can be said for you. Good Luck!

Quote from: Segundus on June 15, 2016, 03:15:41 AM
Gun rights are NOT going away.  There are liberals who have guns.  It's an issue that always goes nowhere. 
Reagan closed our public mental health facilities.  That was a BIG mistake. 
There were a lot of warnings about the Orlando shooter that the FBI just ignored.  Some responsibility for those deaths rests with them.

I hope you're right but you have Cuomo and Bloomberg wanting to ban guns and many others want to as well. There is a gal who has a chain in many malls across the country,  I can't remember the name right now, and she contributes lots of money to Dem politicians and she wants all guns banned.  I happen to agree with you regarding mental health facilities.  My family was directly affected by that as I had a brother who was schizophrenic.  Reagan made a mistake there but I believe his intentions were honorable.  There were a lot of stories about the abuse in mental hospitals at the time.

I completely agree with you about the FBI's failure regarding the Orlando shooter.

We disagree a lot and I have gone off on you once or twice but you are a decent, thoughtful poster so please don't take my tirades too seriously. They are really not personal even though it may seem that way at the time.

I'm not big on Hamilton myself.  He was all for a strong central government with a federal banking system.   I'm more of a Jeffersonian.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 15, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
I'm not big on Hamilton myself.  He was all for a strong central government with a federal banking system.   I'm more of a Jeffersonian.

Definitely! Hamilton's way allowed more European money in but with it came political influence too, of course. Jefferson was trying to fulfill the spirit of the original idea.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: norland2424 on June 15, 2016, 01:40:52 PM
https://youtu.be/ZbM6WbUw7Bs

Mind-blowingly good but this is a joke and not an official Trump ad, right?  ???

Oh, those wacky Japanese! What color is the sky in their world today?  :D


CornyCrow

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 15, 2016, 01:37:34 PM
I hope you're right but you have Cuomo and Bloomberg wanting to ban guns and many others want to as well. There is a gal who has a chain in many malls across the country,  I can't remember the name right now, and she contributes lots of money to Dem politicians and she wants all guns banned.  I happen to agree with you regarding mental health facilities.  My family was directly affected by that as I had a brother who was schizophrenic.  Reagan made a mistake there but I believe his intentions were honorable.  There were a lot of stories about the abuse in mental hospitals at the time.

I completely agree with you about the FBI's failure regarding the Orlando shooter.

We disagree a lot and I have gone off on you once or twice but you are a decent, thoughtful poster so please don't take my tirades too seriously. They are really not personal even though it may seem that way at the time.
That's ok, 21.  I sometimes hold my beliefs strongly but I've had to eat crow many times.  All a person can do is try the best he can with what resources he has.  I sometimes get angry, but it blows over pretty fast.  Thanks for the post and I'm sorry in advance for any disagreements.  It's, I guess, a gift to disagree without being disagreeable. 

Zetaspeak

I was never a big believer in the bait and switch at the convention with Trump. It seemed why to risky. But this month it really has me start to wonder if the Republicans have to do it, since the calendar switched to June, Trump is just falling on his face the entire time.

The whole judge thing is just so dumb, does it gain him one vote? All it can do is piss off first generation Americans who are born to immigrant parents where you have a presidential nominee who is pretty much treating them as second-class citizens even as adults because where their parents were born. How on earth did nobody go to him & say "Trump, this isn't helping you, and all it does it potentially turn off first generation voters away from you". Then the Wash post banning and the whole bizarre post Orlando where he was literally all over the place.

What gets me is Trump makes obviously bad decisions and his supporters (I am guessing his staff) all cheer and tell him how great he is. It's like the worst of corporate cronyism where the boss surrounds himself with "yes men" as his  poll numbers seem to have fallen off a cliff this week.

Trump today on twitter is bragging about TV  news cable ratings. Why? Who knows .He does know disaster movies and Nascar crashes get good numbers too right? lol The kicker is he gets the article from the Washington Post, the same WashPost that he banned because of bad reporting. I seriously think Trump has no idea what contradiction means.


TigerLily


I'm really thinking the Donald wants to lose but his fans refuse to catch on

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Segundus on June 14, 2016, 03:28:25 AM
Obviously, our planet is the bigger issue.  We are killing the planet, which means ALL children will suffer.

I'm sick of people bringing children up, looking for sympathy, by the way.  There's just too much of that done in the states.  If you can't take care of them, just don't have 'em.

Trumps last two speeches were very poorly attended.

Don't have children you can't afford to have. There's a bit of age-old wisdom you could build a whole political platform around, from economics to the environment to a bunch of other areas, I'm sure. However, any candidate would likely get attacked from all sides for saying it. That's a shame.


albrecht

Quote from: Zetaspeak on June 15, 2016, 03:39:25 PM

The whole judge thing is just so dumb, does it gain him one vote? All it can do is piss off first generation Americans
Often, at least in the European and American experience, it was the second generation of immigrants that cause most of the mass shootings, terrorism, rapes, crimes, etc. (I say usually because until the recent mass "refugee" and illegal invasions, much immigration was more slow or in waves that ended not continuous.) The first generation immigrant, especially if legal but even if not, appreciated the opportunity to live in a more peaceful land and wanted to keep his head down and work. Where as that second generation looked to the former country as idealized, comes in to contact with Imams or other terrorists telling them about the glory of their old land that their parents sold them out, and when not assimilated often jobless and under educated and go get sucked into gangs, terrorism, Islam, etc. They also, often, know the local language and culture better so can infiltrate and commit acts of terror more easily than a first generation who might have struggle with language, look suspicious, etc.

TigerLily

Quote from: mikuthing01 on June 15, 2016, 04:12:13 PM
can't tell if pro or anti Trump

;D ;D ;D. No surprise there

VtaGeezer

Quote from: TigerLily on June 15, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
I'm really thinking the Donald wants to lose but his fans refuse to catch on
I tend to agree.  After cinching the nomination, it seems he deliberately put his campaign in the ditch with the attack on the judge.  He had to know that would jam on the brakes.  The establishment Repubs have cut him adrift, probably in hopes he'll crater by the convention and they can pick a good reliable insider. 

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 15, 2016, 03:19:24 PM
Mind-blowingly good but this is a joke and not an official Trump ad, right?  ???

Oh, those wacky Japanese! What color is the sky in their world today?  :D

What part do you like, considering that the "ad" is making fun of Trump as an entertaining way of expressing the threat he represents? If you are a Trump supporter, you should recognize when your man is being mocked, I would think. If you're not, you should get the message very easily.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on June 15, 2016, 04:39:15 PM
I tend to agree.  After cinching the nomination, it seems he deliberately put his campaign in the ditch by attack on the judge.  He had to know that would jam on the brakes.  The establishment Repubs have cut him adrift, probably in hopes he'll crater by the convention and they can pick a good reliable insider.
Replace "Raza" (race) or "Hispanic" in those organizations' names with "white" and I wonder if Trump would've been criticized and how the media would take it. I don't why a judge sitting on a case who joins race/ethnic-based law organizations shouldn't be questioned on bias? Though it should've be handled by Trump's attorneys not by him, in my opinion but, then again, that strategy could work (maybe shame the judge to actually back up Trump- lest he looks biased in the future might have been the plan? I don't know.) But if OJ or a "youth', for example, faced a judge who was a member of the "White National Attorney Association" etc?

starrmtn001

Quote from: TigerLily on June 15, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
I'm really thinking the Donald wants to lose but his fans refuse to catch on
I totally disagree with you Sister.  That being said, if something terrible were to happen (and I ain't gonna speculate a damn thing), here is my choice for our/America's best, last hope.

Jason Chaffetz
http://chaffetz.house.gov/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jf566jeLn0

Value Of Pi

Quote from: TigerLily on June 15, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
;D ;D ;D. No surprise there

So far, the reactions are fascinating. I think they'll get even more fascinating.

Quote from: Zetaspeak on June 15, 2016, 03:39:25 PM
I was never a big believer in the bait and switch at the convention with Trump. It seemed why to risky. But this month it really has me start to wonder if the Republicans have to do it, since the calendar switched to June, Trump is just falling on his face the entire time.

The whole judge thing is just so dumb, does it gain him one vote? All it can do is piss off first generation Americans who are born to immigrant parents where you have a presidential nominee who is pretty much treating them as second-class citizens even as adults because where their parents were born. How on earth did nobody go to him & say "Trump, this isn't helping you, and all it does it potentially turn off first generation voters away from you". Then the Wash post banning and the whole bizarre post Orlando where he was literally all over the place.

What gets me is Trump makes obviously bad decisions and his supporters (I am guessing his staff) all cheer and tell him how great he is. It's like the worst of corporate cronyism where the boss surrounds himself with "yes men" as his  poll numbers seem to have fallen off a cliff this week.

Trump today on twitter is bragging about TV  news cable ratings. Why? Who knows .He does know disaster movies and Nascar crashes get good numbers too right? lol The kicker is he gets the article from the Washington Post, the same WashPost that he banned because of bad reporting. I seriously think Trump has no idea what contradiction means.

Stupidest mistake he has made by far turning his personal grudge against the Hispanic judge into a wholesale attack on hispanics in general.

Quote from: starrmtn001 on June 15, 2016, 04:49:15 PM
I totally disagree with you Sister.  That being said, if something terrible were to happen (and I ain't gonna speculate a damn thing), here is my choice for our/America's best, last hope.

Jason Chaffetz
http://chaffetz.house.gov/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jf566jeLn0

I can dig that.

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 15, 2016, 05:00:53 PM
Stupidest mistake he has made by far turning his personal grudge against the Hispanic judge into a wholesale attack on hispanics in general.
It should've been done through the lawyers but I don't understand how a setting judge should be members of race/ethnic-based organizations. Sure, they have a right to associate with whatever group they wish, even racist ones, but it should be public knowledge and questions of bias are certainly a legitimate question. Replace "Raza" with "race" or "Hispanic" with "White" and see how that would fly in the media. Say the judge was a white old guy with a history or memberships in "National White Attorney Association" or "The Race Legal Assc of California" trying a black person- even in a civil case.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 15, 2016, 05:00:53 PM
Stupidest mistake he has made by far turning his personal grudge against the Hispanic judge into a wholesale attack on hispanics in general.

I would agree.

He has to cultivate a better message and do it fast.

The problem is there is a huge media push to bash this guy and doing so subsequently electing Hillary Clinton.  Fine bash Trump all you want, but I find it odd none of these media outlets are talking about the complete evilness of Clinton's politic career.

It's frightening that these supposed liberal entities refuse to see the havoc and destruction Clinton has been involved with during her political career.

Quote from: Segundus on June 15, 2016, 03:21:52 PM
That's ok, 21.  I sometimes hold my beliefs strongly but I've had to eat crow many times.  All a person can do is try the best he can with what resources he has.  I sometimes get angry, but it blows over pretty fast.  Thanks for the post and I'm sorry in advance for any disagreements.  It's, I guess, a gift to disagree without being disagreeable.

So it is.  I'm sorry in advance as well.   :D ;)

Value Of Pi

Quote from: Zetaspeak on June 15, 2016, 03:39:25 PM
I was never a big believer in the bait and switch at the convention with Trump. It seemed why to risky. But this month it really has me start to wonder if the Republicans have to do it, since the calendar switched to June, Trump is just falling on his face the entire time.

The whole judge thing is just so dumb, does it gain him one vote? All it can do is piss off first generation Americans who are born to immigrant parents where you have a presidential nominee who is pretty much treating them as second-class citizens even as adults because where their parents were born. How on earth did nobody go to him & say "Trump, this isn't helping you, and all it does it potentially turn off first generation voters away from you". Then the Wash post banning and the whole bizarre post Orlando where he was literally all over the place.

What gets me is Trump makes obviously bad decisions and his supporters (I am guessing his staff) all cheer and tell him how great he is. It's like the worst of corporate cronyism where the boss surrounds himself with "yes men" as his  poll numbers seem to have fallen off a cliff this week.

Trump today on twitter is bragging about TV  news cable ratings. Why? Who knows .He does know disaster movies and Nascar crashes get good numbers too right? lol The kicker is he gets the article from the Washington Post, the same WashPost that he banned because of bad reporting. I seriously think Trump has no idea what contradiction means.

Right. In fact, I find Trump's supporters way more interesting than Trump himself. The mental machinations one would have to go through to keep supporting this guy, with all his obvious problems, makes Trump supporters the reality show stars of this campaign. I don't generally watch or appreciate reality tv, but in this case it is unavoidable.

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