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MV/Liberace!

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on May 13, 2016, 02:56:31 PM
Yeah, I kinda figured. Honestly, it's a shame. I think the deck was stacked against Bernie from the start and if the superdelegate issue didn't exist I think he'd have gotten it. It's a shame because I think that a contest between two non-establishment candidates would have been a very healthy thing for the country. At the very least it would have gotten people to think outside the box.

i believe sanders will be the democratic nominee.  i'd put a hundred bucks on it.

edit:  and i think he'd be a much tougher opponent than HRC.

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
i believe sanders will be the democratic nominee.  i'd put a hundred bucks on it.

edit:  and i think he'd be a much tougher opponent than HRC.

I think you're probably right.  Hillary seems to be a somewhat regional candidate who plays well in the South and the Mid-Atlantic regions.  I simply don't see her winning many states moving forward.  New Jersey will probably vote for her but that's about it.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 13, 2016, 06:44:24 PM
I think you're probably right.  Hillary seems to be a somewhat regional candidate who plays well in the South and the Mid-Atlantic regions.  I simply don't see her winning many states moving forward.  New Jersey will probably vote for her but that's about it.

there's just no energy out there for clinton.  it seems sanders fills stadiums with electric enthusiasm while hillary almost fills hotel conference rooms with tepidly committed voters motivated more by HRC's political inertia and supposed "inevitability" than anything else. 

the democrats are making a huge mistake if they let the superdelegates deny sanders the nomination.  hillary will lose.  i think sanders could draw infinitely more crossover votes than clinton.   hillary's perceived as being corrupt; sanders isn't.  hillary's perceived as an aggressively self interested climber bent on satisfying her personal ambitions; sanders isn't.  she's perceived as having indirectly used public office to enrich herself; he isn't.


i personally wouldn't be so broken up over the idea of a sanders presidency.  my top two candidates on isidewith:


1) donald trump  83%
2) bernie sanders  77%


had bush, rubio, kasich, christie or fiorina become the republican nominee, i would have planned on voting for sanders in november.

GravitySucks

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
i believe sanders will be the democratic nominee.  i'd put a hundred bucks on it.

edit:  and i think he'd be a much tougher opponent than HRC.

I never bet on anything. That being said, I am not sure if he has enough states left. Most of them are closed primaries, meaning no independents can vote for Bernie. None of the primaries are winner taking all, so HRC will continue to pick up delegates in each state.

HRC has a lead of 280 delegates before the Superdelegates.

See the graphic below.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 13, 2016, 07:30:02 PM
Superdelegates

that's the only thing that matters, and that's where the decision will be made.

norland2424

Quote from: GravitySucks on May 13, 2016, 07:30:02 PM
I never bet on anything. That being said, I am not sure if he has enough states left. Most of them are closed primaries, meaning no independents can vote for Bernie. None of the primaries are winner taking all, so HRC will continue to pick up delegates in each state.

HRC has a lead of 280 delegates before the Superdelegates.

See the graphic below.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

yup im an independent voter so i know i wont be able to vote for hillary, sanders or trump here in California. but what shocked me more was this, my grandmother is a registered democrat and she votes thru the mail, so this her ballot book, look how far down sanders is and look where they placed hillary.

Designx

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 07:18:32 PM
there's just no energy out there for clinton.  it seems sanders fills stadiums with electric enthusiasm while hillary almost fills hotel conference rooms with tepidly committed voters motivated more by HRC's political inertia and supposed "inevitability" than anything else. 

the democrats are making a huge mistake if they let the superdelegates deny sanders the nomination.  hillary will lose.  i think sanders could draw infinitely more crossover votes than clinton.   hillary's perceived as being corrupt; sanders isn't.  hillary's perceived as an aggressively self interested climber bent on satisfying her personal ambitions; sanders isn't.  she's perceived as having indirectly used public office to enrich herself; he isn't.


i personally wouldn't be so broken up over the idea of a sanders presidency.  my top two candidates on isidewith:


1) donald trump  83%
2) bernie sanders  77%


had bush, rubio, kasich, christie or fiorina become the republican nominee, i would have planned on voting for sanders in november.

You think the democrats would nominate a white guy? I don't. Not at this time at least. Too much hated and perceived disparity for the "rich white." Too bad they don't realize Hillary is a white dude too.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Designx on May 13, 2016, 08:01:35 PM
You think the democrats would nominate a white guy? I don't. Not at this time at least. Too much hated and perceived disparity for the "rich white." Too bad they don't realize Hillary is a white dude too.

i don't think sanders is seen as yet another rich white guy.  i doubt minorities will feel put out voting for a guy who stands in front of a national audience and declares with a straight face, "white people don't know what it's like to be poor or live in a ghetto."

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 07:18:32 PM
there's just no energy out there for clinton.  it seems sanders fills stadiums with electric enthusiasm while hillary almost fills hotel conference rooms with tepidly committed voters motivated more by HRC's political inertia and supposed "inevitability" than anything else. 

the democrats are making a huge mistake if they let the superdelegates deny sanders the nomination.  hillary will lose.  i think sanders could draw infinitely more crossover votes than clinton.   hillary's perceived as being corrupt; sanders isn't.  hillary's perceived as an aggressively self interested climber bent on satisfying her personal ambitions; sanders isn't.  she's perceived as having indirectly used public office to enrich herself; he isn't.


i personally wouldn't be so broken up over the idea of a sanders presidency.  my top two candidates on isidewith:


1) donald trump  83%
2) bernie sanders  77%


had bush, rubio, kasich, christie or fiorina become the republican nominee, i would have planned on voting for sanders in november.

I probably would have voted for Rubio or Fiorina but I have no use for the rest particularly Jeb.

albrecht

Quote from: norland2424 on May 13, 2016, 07:55:25 PM
yup im an independent voter so i know i wont be able to vote for hillary, sanders or trump here in California. but what shocked me more was this, my grandmother is a registered democrat and she votes thru the mail, so this her ballot book, look how far down sanders is and look where they placed hillary.
Weird. The 'small print' says that they randomly assign name position, which, in theory, makes some sense (versus alphabetical or some other criteria) but also, actually, means that people wouldn't notice if all the ballot had him "down ballot" since they would assume it was "just random."

norland2424

Quote from: albrecht on May 13, 2016, 08:36:32 PM
Weird. The 'small print' says that they randomly assign name position, which, in theory, makes some sense (versus alphabetical or some other criteria) but also, actually, means that people wouldn't notice if all the ballot had him "down ballot" since they would assume it was "just random."

yup i just find funny that Hillary name is on top of a randomly generated list

albrecht

Quote from: norland2424 on May 13, 2016, 08:38:39 PM
yup i just find funny that Hillary name is on top of a randomly generated list
Sort of like how she won all of those coin flips in Iowa, I think it was? Very random.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
i believe sanders will be the democratic nominee.  i'd put a hundred bucks on it.

edit:  and i think he'd be a much tougher opponent than HRC.

For me, it comes down to the indictment. If something happens soon, then yeah, Bernie will get it. If it doesn't, then Hillary will. And I agree, Bernie would be a tougher opponent. Trump has it in the bag if he goes up against Hillary.

chefist

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
i believe sanders will be the democratic nominee.  i'd put a hundred bucks on it.

edit:  and i think he'd be a much tougher opponent than HRC.

If that happens it would be amazing...two outsiders on both sides winning...One party is honored to be called capitalistic, the other shuns being called socialistic...

It will be a battle for the ages...


GravitySucks

Quote from: Segundus on May 13, 2016, 11:30:29 AM
We are already having protests and deaths over water.  The world has too many people, especially for the systems that we have in place of government and economics.  It is a good thing to discourage births.

Does your husband know you are using the computer again?

VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on May 13, 2016, 09:45:56 PM
Right lol.


Maybe this will help:

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/reporter-donald-trump-admitted-being/2016/05/13/id/728805/

Still going on about that damning Trump phone call to a People Mag reporter 25 years ago where he pretended to be his own PR guy?  Damn...nowthat's some serious serious shit!!  And the really disqualifying stuff...like Howard Stern Show appearances talking about boobs? And probably on Imus too?  I gotta admit, shaking down half of the govts friendly to America for tens of millions, or emailing state secrets to old pals, or shutting down the govt at a cost of several billion just don't hold a candle to Trump's vile misdeeds.

An army of reporters and detectives gleaning for almost a year every word ever uttered by or about Trump...and this is the dirt? Really??

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 13, 2016, 11:42:48 PM
Still going on about that damning Trump phone call to a People Mag reporter 25 years ago where he pretended to be his own PR guy?  Damn...nowthat's some serious serious shit!!  And the really disqualifying stuff...like Howard Stern Show appearances talking about boobs? And probably on Imus too?  I gotta admit, shaking down half of the govts friendly to America for tens of millions, or emailing state secrets to old pals, or shutting down the govt at a cost of several billion just don't hold a candle to Trump's vile misdeeds.

An army of reporters and detectives gleaning for almost a year every word ever uttered by or about Trump...and this is the dirt? Really??

It's more funny than damning. Not an issue. Will slide off like Teflon.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on May 13, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
For me, it comes down to the indictment. If something happens soon, then yeah, Bernie will get it. If it doesn't, then Hillary will. And I agree, Bernie would be a tougher opponent. Trump has it in the bag if he goes up against Hillary.

not counting territories, there are 9 contests remaining in the dem primaries over the next month.  sanders only trails hillary in pledged delegates by 7%.  let's imagine a universe in which sanders sweeps all of those states, which is possible.  if that were to happen, or if he were even to come close, it would expose the bad november bet that hillary represents.  i think the sanders people could then make a credible case to the unpledged delegates without an indictment.

i'm betting on an indictment, though.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on May 13, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
It's more funny than damning. Not an issue. Will slide off like Teflon.

i was gut laughing as i listened to the phone call.  goddamn, i love donald trump.

edit:  i think it's clearly him.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 13, 2016, 11:42:48 PM
Still going on about that damning Trump phone call to a People Mag reporter 25 years ago where he pretended to be his own PR guy?  Damn...nowthat's some serious serious shit!!  And the really disqualifying stuff...like Howard Stern Show appearances talking about boobs? And probably on Imus too?  I gotta admit, shaking down half of the govts friendly to America for tens of millions, or emailing state secrets to old pals, or shutting down the govt at a cost of several billion just don't hold a candle to Trump's vile misdeeds.

An army of reporters and detectives gleaning for almost a year every word ever uttered by or about Trump...and this is the dirt? Really??

Dude...I just thought it was hilarious. Relax, already. You`re probably the only person on the planet that didn`t know immediately it was Trump. And, for the record, I thought that was purdy dern funny, too!

VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on May 14, 2016, 01:08:19 AM
Dude...I just thought it was hilarious. Relax, already. You`re probably the only person on the planet that didn`t know immediately it was Trump. And, for the record, I thought that was purdy dern funny, too!
Yeah, after hearing it repeated interminably last might, I heard DT.  But on the first hearing, I honestly heard only some NYC dude.  I'm still waiting for all the media-promised TRump atrocities.  Like I've said...thousands of close business associates and top level employees and the investigations produce only pranks and hardball business deals.  So what's wrong with this picture?

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: MV on May 14, 2016, 12:35:28 AM
not counting territories, there are 9 contests remaining in the dem primaries over the next month.  sanders only trails hillary in pledged delegates by 7%.  let's imagine a universe in which sanders sweeps all of those states, which is possible.  if that were to happen, or if he were even to come close, it would expose the bad november bet that hillary represents.  i think the sanders people could then make a credible case to the unpledged delegates without an indictment.

i'm betting on an indictment, though.

I could see that scenario playing out. Bernie has won states that I flat out didn't think he would. It's actually been pretty weird watching that side of things, he picks up states almost randomly.

All I can say about the indictment is that it's clear that it should happen. But at the same time, I place no faith in upper levels of government.

Quote from: MV on May 14, 2016, 12:43:26 AM
i was gut laughing as i listened to the phone call.  goddamn, i love donald trump.

edit:  i think it's clearly him.

Same, I laughed my ass off. It's clearly him. I'll admit it, I do the same thing when I get BS calls or salespeople. "He's in Nepal learning multiple orgasm sex techniques from the Maharishi, I'll make sure he calls you when he gets some zinc back in him." etc.

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 06:41:23 PM
i believe sanders will be the democratic nominee.  i'd put a hundred bucks on it.

edit:  and i think he'd be a much tougher opponent than HRC.

Can I take you up on that bet?

You're probably right but I detest him so much and I hope Americans aren't that stupid even though I'd probably benefit a lot financially from him.

Quote from: MV on May 13, 2016, 08:05:59 PM
i don't think sanders is seen as yet another rich white guy.  i doubt minorities will feel put out voting for a guy who stands in front of a national audience and declares with a straight face, "white people don't know what it's like to be poor or live in a ghetto."

Him being Jewish and his weak pandering is a major turn off to minorities as we've witnessed in the primaries.

''The casino magnate Sheldon G. Adelson told Donald J. Trump in a private meeting last week that he was willing to contribute more to help elect him than he has to any previous campaign, a sum that could exceed $100 million, according to two Republicans with direct knowledge of Mr. Adelson’s commitment.

As significant, Mr. Adelson, a billionaire based in Las Vegas, has decided that he will significantly scale back his giving to congressional Republicans and direct most of his contributions to groups dedicated to Mr. Trump’s campaign. The two Republicans familiar with Mr. Adelson’s plans spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Mr. Adelson’s pledge to Mr. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, comes at an opportune time. Mr. Trump has relied on a mix of his own wealth and small-dollar contributions to finance his primary effort and lacks the sort of major donor network needed to sustain him in the general election. Mr. Trump has said that he may need $1 billion for the campaign but has only recently begun scheduling fund-raisers and hiring finance staff members. Many of the Republican Party’s wealthiest contributors, including the billionaire brothers Charles G. and David H. Koch, have indicated they are unlikely to give to his candidacy.''

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/14/sheldon-adelson-poised-give-donald-trump-donation-boost/

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 14, 2016, 09:01:00 AM
Yeah, after hearing it repeated interminably last might, I heard DT.  But on the first hearing, I honestly heard only some NYC dude.  I'm still waiting for all the media-promised TRump atrocities.  Like I've said...thousands of close business associates and top level employees and the investigations produce only pranks and hardball business deals.  So what's wrong with this picture?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__VQX2Xn7tI


It's amazing watching just what cancer the mass media really is in the current day. Donald Trump is annihilating billion dollar propaganda machines with a simple Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/730500562022760448

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/731192363809394688

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/731503361774768129

His average twitter analytics have almost quadrupled in the last week or two from what I've witnessed.

mikuthing01

Hispanics love Trump

Quote from: mikuthing01 on May 14, 2016, 11:50:12 AM
Hispanics love Trump

Imagine that, groups of people bristling at white liberals speaking for them and putting them in the same category as criminals. The left is so hilariously racist now that people are going to be shocked at the numbers Trump draws from the minority vote.

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