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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

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Quote from: aldousburbank on May 18, 2016, 03:53:15 PM
I think he works for the rapist Clinton.

It wouldn't surprise me though I'd doubt that even she would hire him.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 18, 2016, 03:55:10 PM


42% of Fox News viewers would vote for Clinton. That is pretty good.

136 or 142

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 18, 2016, 03:45:36 PM
Damn, 136, you are spazzing out like a hyperactive child.  I really don't understand why you, a Canadian, are so vitriolic at times.  Why do you care so much about who our President will be?  Do you want America to turn into another socialist utopia like your country?    By the way that is an oxymoron if there ever was one.  What is your agenda?

It's hard for any person to judge their own behavior.  Am I really so vitriolic?  I'm not the one posting idiotic videos and pictures as if they genuinely constitute an argument and nor was I the one pointing out the odd grammar mistake as if that also actually proves anything.  I don't know, I thought I was just doing what Rapist Trump does by hitting back harder than I get hit.

There are many reasons why many people in the world not just Americans, and not just Canadians, care about who your President is, especially when one of the two major party candidates for President appears to be completely ignorant on nearly all areas of policy and who seems to be running for no other reason than vanity.  He says he wants to 'make America great again'  but, you can look at Bernie Sanders who seems to have many of the same complaints about the U.S, and he at least, despite the lies of the New York Daily News, has a fairly detailed policy agenda, realistic or otherwise. Rapist Trump has nothing to show how he would accomplish 'making America great again' other than his obvious view that him personally being elected President would make it happen through his personal super ability to negotiate (his belief.)

In regards to your specific question: 1.No other nation claims to be the 'police officer of the world'  2.No other nation that I'm aware of claims this ridiculous notion of 'exceptionalism' which essentially means that those who believe in it think the United States has the right to break international laws.  3.Global warming is real and the U.S needs a President and a Congress that will address it.  4.U.S trends also sometimes set the agenda in the rest of the world.  Is that enough?

Finally, if you think Canada is 'socialist' or that our left leaning policies have in any significant way contributed to Canada being less of a utopia than it could be, you're more ignorant of economics than I had thought.

I have no agenda other than to post my views.  I don't post here to make friends and that allows me to be as blunt as I want to be including correctly referring to all the enablers here of Rapist Trump as idiots.

Do you really seriously expect that most of my comments are going to be serious or 'mature' given the vast majority of other posts here?


136 or 142

P2016 (McLaughlin): Clinton 46%, Trump 42%.

No idea who McLaughlin is but they can't be any less credible than Fox.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on May 18, 2016, 03:58:47 PM
42% of Fox News viewers would vote for Clinton. That is pretty good.
Fox News viewers weren't polled; those are results of polls sponsored by Fox News.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 18, 2016, 04:37:24 PM
Fox News viewers weren't polled; those are results of polls sponsored by Fox News.

At +/- 3% the poll is the same with Clinton at 45% and Trump at 42%.

136 or 142

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on May 18, 2016, 04:46:50 PM
At +/- 3% the poll is the same with Clinton at 45% and Trump at 42%.

One poll should never be looked at in isolation.  There are a number of factors with any poll.  The best thing to do is to either look at the trend lines of the polls by the same firm (assuming they use the same methodology) or to aggregate the polls together.  There clearly has been a move to Rapist Trump lately, but he hasn't gotten above 45% in any poll. Hillary Clinton has also shown weaknesses in support that have been frequently discussed.  In 1988 around this same time Michael Dukakis has a fairly consistent 10% or so lead over George H W Bush and peaked with an 18% lead right after the Democratic convention.  Polls will go up and down and I wouldn't necessarily take them all that seriously until after both conventions are held.

My personal view is that Rapist Trump is the likelier candidate to collapse in the polls as more and more people tire of his schtick and become concerned over his seeming ignorance on nearly all policy matters.  Of course, that was said in the Primaries as well.  But, so far Rapist Trump has collected around 11 million primary votes and will need about six times that number to win the general election.  He'll obviously gain the support of most Republicans who vote for the ticket and not for any specific candidate though.

bateman

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/05/16/morning-joe-panel-clinton-connection-with-billionaire-pedophile-jeffrey-epstein-will-blow-up-campaign/

Mika looks like she wants to jump out a window during this segment.

Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet not once or twice, or even ten times, but at least TWENTY SIX times, and dismissed his Secret Service detail - FOIA requests to release the relevant documents have been denied by SS.

albrecht

Quote from: bateman on May 18, 2016, 05:02:41 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/05/16/morning-joe-panel-clinton-connection-with-billionaire-pedophile-jeffrey-epstein-will-blow-up-campaign/

Mika looks like she wants to jump out a window during this segment.

Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet not once or twice, or even ten times, but at least TWENTY SIX times, and dismissed his Secret Service detail - FOIA requests to release the relevant documents have been denied by SS.
Apparently Trump has had some interactions with Epstein but not nearly as vast as Bill. I've been wondering why more mainstream media hasn't paid much attention to the Epstein stuff and his "friends." I also wonder what happened to the pictures (some court docs and early articles mentioned that he had hidden cams in some of houses/places?) How does a school teacher become a financial advisor and friend to royals, ex-Presidents, and billionaires? Just procuring or maybe hidden pictures?

Zetaspeak

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 18, 2016, 04:37:24 PM
Fox News viewers weren't polled; those are results of polls sponsored by Fox News.

You're right, this wasn't one of those web polls that gets 95% of people agreeing. I pretty sure it's more scientific.

But agree with 136 as well. Every election the media overreacts to a singular poll that looks different then the rest, and those never are accurate. The best is to get the most credible 4 or 5 polls and average it out.

Speaking of that, some homework for me or anybody else, to go back a couple of elections and see which polling firms are the most accurate with the final results.

albrecht

Quote from: Zetaspeak on May 18, 2016, 08:05:51 PM
You're right, this wasn't one of those web polls that gets 95% of people agreeing. I pretty sure it's more scientific.

But agree with 136 as well. Every election the media overreacts to a singular poll that looks different then the rest, and those never are accurate. The best is to get the most credible 4 or 5 polls and average it out.

Speaking of that, some homework for me or anybody else, to go back a couple of elections and see which polling firms are the most accurate with the final results.
I know, but hope not, that you 136 or 142 etc, knows about statistics and polls and won't explain.  ;) But so many poll outfits also seem to be affiliated (in some way or in the past) with specific campaigns, parties, or issues and the methodology is so different between even the more honest ones. Many are based on old technology or ideas or, maybe, even specially do so so that their "buyers" (whether campaign, media, or government) get the "right" results. I've been called a few times since I still have a landline and did some Arbitron stuff. And I know, a minority, but I specifically like messing with them, especially when the person sounds like they just swam some border to speak with me (say things like I get all my news from C2C and Alex Jones and Pacifica, my income was much lower than real, etc etc. Surprised one Democratic volunteer by expressing not only do I support abortion as a first priority but it should be mandatory for Hispanics. (She didn't really counter-argument but just encouraged to turn up to vote. The Uber/Lyft people, and anti were calling CONSTANTLY and I would mess with them.) And that was only because I decided, after countless robocalls to answer. Any calls unknown on my cell phone are blocked, if they call cell phones. I don't trust polls or exit polls. There is still a silent majority, Australian Ballot, etc and you never know if they are telling the truth when they "talk" or submit polls.


albrecht

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on May 18, 2016, 08:19:40 PM

Where was this posted? Looks like some kind of hell-hole inner-city situation. Scary.  If only our borders had the kind of gates and walls and stuff that place apparently has.  ;)

136 or 142

Quote from: Zetaspeak on May 18, 2016, 08:05:51 PM
You're right, this wasn't one of those web polls that gets 95% of people agreeing. I pretty sure it's more scientific.

But agree with 136 as well. Every election the media overreacts to a singular poll that looks different then the rest, and those never are accurate. The best is to get the most credible 4 or 5 polls and average it out.

Speaking of that, some homework for me or anybody else, to go back a couple of elections and see which polling firms are the most accurate with the final results.

It's been done:  http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

Fox News doesn't do it's own polling but apparently hires a couple polling firms.  There is discussion on their poll here: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=237008.0

According to them, the polls released under the Fox News name are fairly accurate in the aggregate (just a Republican bias of 0.4%) but their individual polls show a trend of frequent wide swings that generally can't be explained and that most pollsters generally don't believe occur without something unusual happening. In general, all but the most extreme events will cause no more than about a 3% increase or decrease in support for a candidate over, say, a one or two week period, so the swings in Fox News polls suggest their hired firms have at least somewhat poor polling methodology. Here in Canada I wouldn't be surprised for instance given Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's extremely odd aggressive behavior in Parliament if his Liberals didn't suffer a full 10% decline in support (in the short term) but that is an extreme situation of a leader's behavior that went against the perception of him as a person with 'sunny ways.'

So, Fox News polls in the aggregate seem to be quite accurate but every individual one of their polls should be regarded with suspicion.  And, this doesn't require belief in any conspiracy theory that Fox News might put out intentionally skewed polls for mischievous purposes.  Unlike that idiot after the 2012 Presidential election who claimed he could 'unskew' polls, there is a well established technique in statistics called 'smoothing.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoothing "In statistics and image processing, to smooth a data set is to create an approximating function that attempts to capture important patterns in the data, while leaving out noise or other fine-scale structures/rapid phenomena. In smoothing, the data points of a signal are modified so individual points (presumably because of noise) are reduced"

I think that would be a good approach to take to any individual poll that Fox News puts out, though I don't know how to do it.


Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 18, 2016, 11:25:40 AM
DT has fulfilled his promise to release a list of eleven judges he considers USSC nominees.  Apparently, Torquemada didn't reply to his invitation.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/president-trump-just-released-a-list-of-11-people-hed-nominate-to-the-supreme-court/


It should come as no surprise to anyone that Trump is now gently walking back his recommendations for the United States Supreme Court. Trump is absent any semblance of core principles. He only says what someone -- presumably much smarter than himself -- whispers in his ear. When you think about it, Trump is the ultimate sock puppet. No wonder Putin is so enamoured with him.


Quote from: rekcuf on May 19, 2016, 03:00:58 PM
https://twitter.com/ArtBell51/status/733415909365190656

I'm disappointed in Art.  I see him morphing into a mini-me version of Trump. I thought he was far too intelligent to sink to such depths.  I say that as an almost-certain Trump voter.



136 or 142

Quote from: rekcuf on May 19, 2016, 03:18:09 PM
Those faggots have lost. Trump has received the most votes in U.S. primary history.

Most Republican votes.  He received just over 11 million votes with 9 states to go when his last remaining opponents dropped out.  Both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in 2008 received nearly 18 million votes.

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Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 19, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
I'm disappointed in Art.  I see him morphing into a mini-me version of Trump. I thought he was far too intelligent to sink to such depths.  I say that as an almost-certain Trump voter.

The evidence keeps mounting that the intelligent and reasonable persona we knew on the radio is very different from the way Art really is. I still like the persona but it's hard to listen to an old AB broadcast now without thinking about the real Art. Some personalities and celebrities should just keep their private selves private.

We bought the image. The actual article wouldn't have been as attractive. He's so much better at asking questions than answering them.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on May 19, 2016, 04:46:40 PM
Most Republican votes.  He received just over 11 million votes with 9 states to go when his last remaining opponents dropped out.  Both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in 2008 received nearly 18 million votes.

Yes, Republican votes. He also beat 15 other candidates. Downplay all you like; Trump is doing what no candidate has done before. He crushed the opposition without wasting 100's of millions of dollars. (*cough cough* Jeb)

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 19, 2016, 06:49:14 PM
The evidence keeps mounting that the intelligent and reasonable persona we knew on the radio is very different from the way Art really is. I still like the persona but it's hard to listen to an old AB broadcast now without thinking about the real Art. Some personalities and celebrities should just keep their private selves private.

We bought the image. The actual article wouldn't have been as attractive. He's so much better at asking questions than answering them.

Value Of Pie, Art is far too impulsive (in real life.) That trait is compounded with speed and ease he can send a Tweet or post thoughts on Internet message boards.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 19, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
I'm disappointed in Art.  I see him morphing into a mini-me version of Trump. I thought he was far too intelligent to sink to such depths.  I say that as an almost-certain Trump voter.

Art doesn't know what he's talking about. Trump has praised that little midget dictator.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-gotta-give/story?id=36198345

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12092353/Donald-Trump-praises-Kim-Jong-un-for-his-firm-hand-with-executed-uncle.html

albrecht

Quote from: rekcuf on May 19, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
Value Of Pie, Art is far too impulsive. (in real life) That trait is compounded with speed and ease he can send a Tweet or post thoughts on Internet message boards.
Yeah, the twitters and interwebs stuff, especially with smartphones etc, are like the nuke threat used to be before some more protocols (maybe still is.) Moves quicker than people can respond but from the get-go the new "network" seemed ill-advised, seemingly no business model, under-staffed, over-worked, people working multiple jobs, an older guy (who I love) but suddenly jumping back into a full-time night shift job with a young child and wife, so much worries about music bumpers, paypal only option, and no control over social media and postings and all dirty laundering being aired. It was too bad.


Quote from: rekcuf on May 19, 2016, 08:16:20 PM
MV; A Koch Brother Shill?  :o :o :o

Heh, I think something more is involved, like your geolocation and browsing history. I wish I had taken a screenshot now, but I was getting ads for super high end sports cars.

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