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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM


FightTheFuture: "A dead hooker was just found in the trunk of Donald J. Trump`s car"

VtaGeezer: "Nobody cares about that personal crap! Move on!"

Anyone here read The Art of the Deal before? I'm about halfway through it.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: 136 or 142 on May 22, 2016, 10:44:35 AM
Only one problem.  It was Rapist Trump who said that, not Hillary Clinton.
Even we children understand that Trump was a private citizen reacting only to what was reported in news as a humanitarian crisis in the making when Khaddafi threatened to destroy Benghazi.  Clinton, who had this job as the Sec State, had these things called CIA and DIA intelligence* briefings daily; probably multiple times daily as Libya heated up. And a whole staff of ex-Bill C. Ivy Leaguer advisors who earned their stripes at the Brookings Institute and similar sterile posts where responsibility meant getting the footnotes on their missives right. And she still managed to assure that Libya was left literally FUBAR when she and the UN lost interest as the next Arab Spring catastrophe ripened in Syria.

BTW, we'll never know what Libya may have become had Trump's position been the reality, as most in NATO had expected from Obama's rhetoric; UN/NATO forces on the ground providing direction and discipline to the rebel anarchy.  What we got was NATO bombing from afar and waving om-poms for the rebels...who turned out to be largely AQ and allied Islamists.

* I realize the word "intelligence" confounds you, but there it is. Don't apologize for your poor spelling; we understand.

chefist

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 22, 2016, 12:15:09 PM
Anyone here read The Art of the Deal before? I'm about halfway through it.

I have not...how is it so far?

Quote from: chefist on May 22, 2016, 12:19:45 PM
I have not...how is it so far?

It's incredible, the man is an absolute genius. A lot of the book is figuratively about how yuugggeee his junk is but the rest of the book is going deep inside the mind of a brilliant businessman/economist/public figure.

chefist

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 22, 2016, 12:26:48 PM
It's incredible, the man is an absolute genius. A lot of the book is figuratively about how yuugggeee his junk is but the rest of the book is going deep inside the mind of a brilliant businessman/economist/public figure.

I'm going to have to give it a read...funny those nuts that compare Trump to Hitler...I'm pretty sure "Art of the Deal" doesn't have any plans on minority genocide or conquering Canada... 8)

Quote from: chefist on May 22, 2016, 12:33:31 PM
I'm going to have to give it a read...funny those nuts that compare Trump to Hitler...I'm pretty sure "Art of the Deal" doesn't have any plans on minority genocide or conquering Canada... 8)

It's hilarious after reading the book watching how the media and liberals try to portray him. They don't have a clue and are so arrogant in their ignorance that they play right into his hands. I'll tell you this, after reading his book there's no doubt in my mind he's going to eviscerate the Democrats in the general.

chefist

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 22, 2016, 12:36:17 PM
It's hilarious after reading the book watching how the media and liberals try to portray him. They don't have a clue and are so arrogant in their ignorance that they play right into his hands. I'll tell you this, after reading his book there's no doubt in my mind he's going to eviscerate the Democrats in the general.

It's already happening...the PC GOP apology tour is over, they have moved in the correct direction on certain policies, and the Dems just don't know what tidal wave is coming for them...

VtaGeezer

Quote from: chefist on May 22, 2016, 12:44:37 PM
It's already happening...the PC GOP apology tour is over, they have moved in the correct direction on certain policies, and the Dems just don't know what tidal wave is coming for them...
I think he'll rope-a-dope Clinton with the uncouth-uninformed act until the first debate; she won't know what hit her.

chefist

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 22, 2016, 01:02:22 PM
I think he'll rope-a-dope Clinton with the uncouth-uninformed act until the first debate; she won't know what hit her.

Agreed...You know all the politicians try to keep surprises in their back pockets...I'm so looking forward to the first debate in September...Already there are rumors that if it goes badly for HRC, she will bow out of the other debates...I don't think that will happen, but It's going to be fun to watch! Best WWE event in decades! Hulk v Andre, Hulk v Piper, etc...

VtaGeezer

Quote from: chefist on May 22, 2016, 01:05:01 PM
Already there are rumors that if it goes badly for HRC, she will bow out of the other debates...
I'm no sexist, but if she were to cave after one debate, it would end the race for her, and devastate chances for other women as Pres candidates for a long, long time.

chefist

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 22, 2016, 01:11:40 PM
I'm no sexist, but if she were to cave after one debate, it would end the race for her, and devastate chances for other women as Pres candidates for a long, long time.

Yea, I agree...those saying that were of two opinions. 1: She will take the high road and not stoop to Trump's level (which is impossible given her PAC ads), or 2: She is getting destroyed on the stage and has to go into emergency damage control. She's not a bad debater, but Trump does not use a teleprompter. I think he would have the ad lib advantage...

Value Of Pi

Quote from: chefist on May 22, 2016, 01:05:01 PM
Agreed...You know all the politicians try to keep surprises in their back pockets...I'm so looking forward to the first debate in September...Already there are rumors that if it goes badly for HRC, she will bow out of the other debates...I don't think that will happen, but It's going to be fun to watch! Best WWE event in decades! Hulk v Andre, Hulk v Piper, etc...

Most people truly understand the difference between watching a disaster movie and experiencing a disaster in real life. One is entertaining, the other is just plain painful. If your man wins this election, one way or another you're likely to find out firsthand the difference between entertainment and reality.

It will be painful and it will hurt like hell regardless of whether you're in your living room or trying to escape to the movies or reality TV. So have all the fun you can while you still can, because reality is a bitch.

chefist

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 22, 2016, 01:41:27 PM
Most people truly understand the difference between watching a disaster movie and experiencing a disaster in real life. One is entertaining, the other is just plain painful. If your man wins this election, one way or another you're likely to find out firsthand the difference between entertainment and reality.

It will be painful and it will hurt like hell regardless of whether you're in your living room or trying to escape to the movies or reality TV. So have all the fun you can while you still can, because reality is a bitch.

Hillary will be a complete disaster...you are right...

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 22, 2016, 01:41:27 PM
Most people truly understand the difference between watching a disaster movie and experiencing a disaster in real life. One is entertaining, the other is just plain painful. If your man wins this election, one way or another you're likely to find out firsthand the difference between entertainment and reality.

It will be painful and it will hurt like hell regardless of whether you're in your living room or trying to escape to the movies or reality TV. So have all the fun you can while you still can, because reality is a bitch.

And you base this assessment on?

136 or 142

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 22, 2016, 12:15:27 PM
Even we children understand that Trump was a private citizen reacting only to what was reported in news as a humanitarian crisis in the making when Khaddafi threatened to destroy Benghazi.  Clinton, who had this job as the Sec State, had these things called CIA and DIA intelligence* briefings daily; probably multiple times daily as Libya heated up. And a whole staff of ex-Bill C. Ivy Leaguer advisors who earned their stripes at the Brookings Institute and similar sterile posts where responsibility meant getting the footnotes on their missives right. And she still managed to assure that Libya was left literally FUBAR when she and the UN lost interest as the next Arab Spring catastrophe ripened in Syria.

BTW, we'll never know what Libya may have become had Trump's position been the reality, as most in NATO had expected from Obama's rhetoric; UN/NATO forces on the ground providing direction and discipline to the rebel anarchy.  What we got was NATO bombing from afar and waving om-poms for the rebels...who turned out to be largely AQ and allied Islamists.

* I realize the word "intelligence" confounds you, but there it is. Don't apologize for your poor spelling; we understand.

Right, except that you also say that you like the Rapist Trump because he's a non politician.  So, you either like him because he's a private citizen reacting to what he sees, and you have no way of knowing whether or not you'd like him as a politician, or you like him because, while he's a private citizen, he has some super intelligence that makes him vastly superior to the average private citizen and capable from day one of assuming the office of the Presidency, which he did not show here.

Also, this does not excuse or explain his lying regarding his claim that he opposed the war in Iraq and the overthrow of Gaddafi.

I realize intelligence confounds you, but there it is.  Don't apologize for it, you're a complete moron; we understand.

136 or 142

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 22, 2016, 01:11:40 PM
I'm no sexist, but if she were to cave after one debate, it would end the race for her, and devastate chances for other women as Pres candidates for a long, long time.


VtaGeezer

Quote from: 136 or 142 on May 22, 2016, 01:52:13 PM
Right, except that you also say that you like the Rapist Trump because he's a non politician.  So, you either like him because he's a private citizen reacting to what he sees, and you have no way of knowing whether or not you'd like him as a politician, or you like him because, while he's a private citizen he has some super intelligence that makes him vastly superior to the average private citizen and capable from day one of assuming the office of the Presidency, which he did not show here.

Also, this does not excuse or explain his lying regarding his claim that he opposed the war in Iraq and the overthrow of Gaddafi.

I realize intelligence confounds you, but there it is.  Don't apologize for it, you're a complete moron; we understand.
Jeez, incoherent drunk so early?  And on Sunday! 

136 or 142

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 22, 2016, 02:10:52 PM
Jeez, incoherent drunk so early?  And on Sunday!

That a complete moron like you found what I wrote to be 'incoherent' does not make it so.  I suspect you find Dick and Jane either incoherent or above your level or understanding.

See VtaGeezer vote

VtaGeezer is voting for Rapist Trump

VtaGeezer falls for Rapist Trump's nonsense

VtaGeezer is a complete moron.

Edit: I apologize, what I wrote above lacked a comma in one place.  Everything else still stands though as all the rest shouldn't have been hard to understand.

Value Of Pi

Quote from: VoteQuimby on May 22, 2016, 01:49:32 PM
And you base this assessment on?

"If your man wins this election, one way or another you're likely to find out firsthand the difference between entertainment and reality." That's what I said. The reason I believe this is that the world Trump knows is very narrow, proscribed by relatively simple and straightforward sets of rules and populated by people whose behavior he is often able to control. All relative to the big, bad, complicated world that he'd have to deal with as president.

On day one as president, his advisors would be telling Trump why he can't do hardly any of the things he's talked about -- deporting 11 million people, banning an entire religion from entering the country, dropping out of NATO, reneging on defense commitments and instead encouraging nuclear proliferation around the world, the list goes on and on. If he took their advice and wised up, maybe we'd have a chance.

But, Trump being Trump, I think he'd insist on doing things his way. And whether the result was a panicked stock market and runaway inflation as the result of a trade war and/or loss of confidence in U.S. Treasuries, or a hot war based on miscalculation and misunderstanding of the players involved, it would hit Trump voters like a pail of ice water. Simplistic, short-sighted solutions and slogans don't work in the real world. They only work in the movies.

albrecht

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 22, 2016, 08:51:45 PM
"If your man wins this election, one way or another you're likely to find out firsthand the difference between entertainment and reality." That's what I said. The reason I believe this is that the world Trump knows is very narrow, proscribed by relatively simple and straightforward sets of rules and populated by people whose behavior he is often able to control. All relative to the big, bad, complicated world that he'd have to deal with as president.

On day one as president, his advisors would be telling Trump why he can't do hardly any of the things he's talked about -- deporting 11 million people, banning an entire religion from entering the country, dropping out of NATO, reneging on defense commitments and instead encouraging nuclear proliferation around the world, the list goes on and on. If he took their advice and wised up, maybe we'd have a chance.

But, Trump being Trump, I think he'd insist on doing things his way. And whether the result was a panicked stock market and runaway inflation as the result of a trade war and/or loss of confidence in U.S. Treasuries, or a hot war based on miscalculation and misunderstanding of the players involved, it would hit Trump voters like a pail of ice water. Simplistic, short-sighted solutions and slogans don't work in the real world. They only work in the movies.
quick thoughts on this (and I'm won't mention my opinions now but these events though might cause pause or gain with some voters, supporters, and funders in various directions:)
1) Trump meeting with Kissinger
2) One Koch brother going against (and funding)
3) meeting with Gingrich

Value Of Pi

Quote from: FightTheFuture on May 22, 2016, 11:25:47 AM
FightTheFuture: "A dead hooker was just found in the trunk of Donald J. Trump`s car"

VtaGeezer: "Nobody cares about that personal crap! Move on!"

I forgot to say, this is pretty damn funny. Captures the essence of the debate in a few well-chosen words.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 22, 2016, 09:25:03 PM
I forgot to say, this is pretty damn funny. Captures the essence of the debate in a few well-chosen words.
When you clowns get something serious on Trump other than your perverse fantasies, let us know.  On second thought, let the NYT know; they're coming up dry.

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 22, 2016, 09:25:03 PM
I forgot to say, this is pretty damn funny. Captures the essence of the debate in a few well-chosen words.

How long has the hooker been dead for? Asking for a friend...

Value Of Pi

Quote from: rekcuf on May 22, 2016, 09:46:29 PM
How long has the hooker been dead for? Asking for a friend...

Long enough, I imagine. But FWIW, Donald says he really didn't know or recommend her -- met her maybe once. Also, he wasn't at all complimentary on her looks (something about Irish Wolfhounds), so there's that. And she smelled worse than Ivanka's signature perfume, even before she was a corpse. That's really all I know.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: rekcuf on May 22, 2016, 09:46:29 PM
How long has the hooker been dead for? Asking for a friend...
You know Bill C ?

Quote from: Value Of Pi on May 22, 2016, 10:11:30 PM
Long enough, I imagine. But FWIW, Donald says he really didn't know or recommend her -- met her maybe once. Also, he wasn't at all complimentary on her looks (something about Irish Wolfhounds), so there's that. And she smelled worse than Ivanka's signature perfume, even before she was a corpse. That's really all I know.

My *cough* friend, thanks you for the comprehensive breakdown of said hooker. *sniff sniff* I..err, my friend, can already smell the sweet perfume. Could be the Irish Wolfhounds. Does it really matter though?

WOOF! WOOF!

Quote from: VtaGeezer on May 22, 2016, 10:15:52 PM
You know Bill C ?

The first 'black president?' Slick Willie and I have crossed paths before. Not swords, though. Strictly professional.

136 or 142

Quote from: rekcuf on May 22, 2016, 09:46:29 PM
How long has the hooker been dead for? Asking for a friend...

Those who know can't say, Rapist Trump negotiated in court a gag order on them.

albrecht

Quote from: 136 or 142 on May 22, 2016, 10:44:19 PM
Those who know can't say, Rapist Trump negotiated in court a gag order on them.
Smart guy!

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