John Titor

[Ruteger]

Does anyone else this this JT story is full of excrement? Snoory seems to buy into the scam...

Time travel is impossible. Maybe a thousand years from now, but not with our current understanding of physics.

But you would think that time travel to the past would be easier since those events have already occured.

[bigdaddyknapp]

Snoory seems to buy into the scam...

Snoory believes everything he hears. I shudder to think how many times he must have been burned by those "you may already be a winner" type mailouts. Poor bastard.

[Frys Girl]

Snoory believes everything he hears. I shudder to think how many times he must have been burned by those "you may already be a winner" type mailouts. Poor bastard.

LOL. The Nigerian emails.

[Pirate King Atomsk]

I think Titor is interesting because of the "internet meme" factor. Drudging through the webarchive looking for posts or references on him from the 90's adds some flavor to the whole thing. Other than that, he's just another guest with a story to me. I certainly don't buy it after looking at his "equipment".

[heater]

Just so everyone knows.  I am John Titor, but not the same one you all know and love.  I am from a different alternate timeline and I have been sent back to discover the secrets of The Colonel's secret recipe.  Ever since the war we have been unable to make contact with anyone from the resistance with knowledge of the secret so I have been sent back to learn it any possible way.  I have an interview Monday with a man calling himself a "manager" that claims if I pass a drug test and a series of questions to test my worth he may show me the secret blend.

Once that is done I will need to find a matchstick, proton pack, toaster, and a device called an Ipod nano 2nd generation then I will be able to create the quantum event needed to send me home.  The Ipod must has the song "Ziggy Stardust" in the playlist or who knows where I might end up...

[Words I Like]

Why cant some ambitious college student just have the kernels favorite recipe analyzed in some lab?

[heater]

because America still has 3 great industries that keep us one step ahead of the rest of the world.

1) Oil Production

2) General Motors & car manufacturing

3) The Colonel's Recipe

Without these who knows what would happen to this great country

[heater]

I forgot, there is a 4th) Porn + Internet.

These are the four walls that keep this house together

[PhantasticSanShiSan]

I love it when persons with as little credibility as the story they debunk, go into action.  Classic shit.

[hitfan]

I remember first reading the John Titor story about 5 years ago.  Although I strongly suspected it was fake, I was entertained by it.  However, some guy on the internet with some google skillz quickly debunked and found out who was the most likely to be John Titor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpMYq6kT62M&feature=channel_page

Has GN continued to talk about Titor?  I know that at least 2 years ago he was still mentioning his name quite a few times even though there was no:

-Civil War with "Waco style" events occurring on a monthly basis starting in 2004
-Olympic Games cancellation after 2004 (Winter Olympics occurred in '06 and the Beijing games happened without much incident in '08)

[valdez]

George doesn't stop talking about Titor.  He even brings him up when hes talking to real scientist.  The last time he was discussed they talked about why the creep didn't predict anything, and they explained it away with the old multiple timeline ruse.  Works every time.

[Supernormal]

You could've knocked me down with a feather. Yeah, John Titor is right up there with the story about the captured Congo T-Rex that Noory told on April Fool's night. He still tried to fool callers with that and other "I-got-your-nose" gags. He's the Don Rickles of one's intelligence.

[hitfan]

George doesn't stop talking about Titor.  He even brings him up when hes talking to real scientist.  The last time he was discussed they talked about why the creep didn't predict anything, and they explained it away with the old multiple timeline ruse.  Works every time.

He still does it?  It's one thing to still talk about Titor as if he could be real, it's quite another to not even be knowledgeable about the 'facts' surrounding him when talking enthusiastically about him.

[Ruteger]

I knew this was a farce from the first millisecond. Time travel is not possible. Any child with an 8th grade education (not public) could figure this out.

There will be only ONE time-traveler and that is God. He created time, space and the Universe. Thus, He resides outside of their domain.

[Wcstflyer]

Look, I spend quite a bit of time in the Tampa Bay area and if John Titor was legit all he had to do was answer a few questions about the Tampa Bay of the future. Example: Are the Rays ever going to get a new baseball stadium or are they still doomed to play in Tropicana Field with its lame fake grass and the domed stadium with the lights that go out every time there is a lightning strike within a 10nm radius? Is that national treasure Hooters still a thriving restaurant chain and is store number one at 2800 Gulf-to-Bay in Clearwater still open in 2036? What about local TV in the Tampa of the future? Will those old hags Kathy Fountain and Kelly Ring ever retire or are we going to see octogenarian news women doing the 5 and 6 o'clock Channel 13 news in the city of the future?

All John Titor has to do is give some simple answers. 

[Marc.Knight]

I knew this was a farce from the first millisecond. Time travel is not possible. Any child with an 8th grade education (not public) could figure this out.

There will be only ONE time-traveler and that is God. He created time, space and the Universe. Thus, He resides outside of their domain.

Mmmmmm.  Your mind seeks Truth.  How can space and time exist, yet also be emergent from, and subject to non-space and time?  As you may surmise, ONE perspective delivers that which was, is, and will be as a singularity.  How limited we are with our conveyance of concepts with words.   

[Ruteger]

PW:

Anything that begins to exist must have a cause.

Cosmological science indicates the Universe had a beginning and therefore requires a cause. Please, no quantum fluctuation horse-hockey!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalam_cosmological_argument

[Stevenqbosell]

God I loved that John Titor story. The real problem with it was Noory was the one doing the interviews. Just imagine Art tackling that one;

It was a fantastic story until I read about Alas, babylon and how so much of it mirrored Titors story.

Has anyone figured out who exactly was the cat posting on the anomolies site back in the day?

One thing I always thought was weird, was that Geroge would have oliver Williams on, yuk it up with him about the story, then mayny 2 months later have on a Titor criticizer and completley agree with him. Then to looney the waters even more, he'd invite back oliver Willimas, yet LIGHTLY gloss over the criticisms...

If anything, it would make a fantastic movie

[anagrammy]

God I loved that John Titor story. The real problem with it was Noory was the one doing the interviews. Just imagine Art tackling that one;

It was a fantastic story until I read about Alas, babylon and how so much of it mirrored Titors story.

Has anyone figured out who exactly was the cat posting on the anomolies site back in the day?

One thing I always thought was weird, was that Geroge would have oliver Williams on, yuk it up with him about the story, then mayny 2 months later have on a Titor criticizer and completley agree with him. Then to looney the waters even more, he'd invite back oliver Willimas, yet LIGHTLY gloss over the criticisms...

If anything, it would make a fantastic movie

I am a big Titors fan.  Even if it isn't true, the balls of this hoaxster have to be admired.  How many people would have the guts to pull one over on Art-Heard-It-All-Wasn't-Born-Yesterday-Bell.  And then to have people with the right name who live in the right spot, and then they move anonymously in the middle of the night.  Made for shivers.  It would make a GREAT movie, esp if done in Twilight Zone/Inception mode. 

George Noory is clearly not fascinated by the story and the possibilities it evokes.  He doesn't have the level of wonder to ask, "What is it about this possible hoax that makes it so compelling?" 

I remember how Art made a time travel show absolutely compelling by sharing his own fascination with the subject and then making very cogent comments about the parties involved.  Art did not tiptoe around guest's feelings like all the hosts do (they must be huritng for guests).  George Knapp recently apologized for having to correct one guest who mixed the dates of Kissinger's stint as secretary of state. 

When one guest told Art the photograph (of Christ) taken by a time traveler was actually a mockup, Art said, "Well if the photograph is a hoax, the whole thing is a lie." 

Er, yeah.  But still a highly entertaining show when managed by someone with talent.

Anagrammy

[Agent : Orange]

Even if it isn't true, the balls of this hoaxster have to be admired. 

You never cease to amaze me, Ana

[Agent : Orange]

George Knapp recently apologized for having to correct one guest who mixed the dates of Kissinger's stint as secretary of state. 

As an afterthought, the host was John B. Wells if I recall correctly. Who totally stunk it up.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

[anagrammy]

John Titor's talk about a civil war in America doesn't seem so far-fetched now as it did at the time he made that statement.  He blamed us. Blamed America for not doing something about it, for letting it happen.  Now, in 2011, a chorus of voices are saying that and there is plenty of talk about the Feds being so corrupt, the states should just opt out.  Seeds of sedition, my friends.  We'll all be labeled traitors if we say to the Federal Government, "It's over. It's not you, it's me.  I just need to be free."

When you hear that, you know it's you.  That's why the Federal Government is building camps and preparing for domestic violence.  We have young people here too and they're mad as hell and not going to take much more either.  Didn't Titor mention a generational war and everybody said, "Whaaa?"

Egypt exploded because the under 40 age group had 70% unemployment.  And their government was fanning themselves with feathers, so to speak.  Actually, they were very busy looting the treasurey.  Sound familiar?  We close down the neighborhood bank because they are insolvent, but let the big boys who committed the fraud get a pass because they are "too big to fail."  Fuck that.   

I say the tipping point is fast approaching when they throw public education under the bus because "we are broke" but refuse to rescind the tax increase for the very wealthy.  And, as the recent guest, Webster Tarpley, pointed out, WHY THE HELL ARE WE NOT TAXING WALL STREET TRANSACTIONS? 

Best show in some time with Tarpley.  He ran the numbers--we could pink this country up just fine if we taxed these stock transactions which whiz by on computers, dozens per minute.  These speculators are automated gamblers.  I pay taxes every time I buy a dish towel, WHY ARE THEY GETTING OFF SCOT FREE?

The answer to that question is the tipping point for civil war--and it won't be just the young people either.  Everybody I know is furious about what they've done to the country.  And most people are realizing it doesn't matter which party is in the White House.  They have that special meeting right around their inauguration and they come out already looking haggard.  They aren't told about UFOs, no, they are told who runs the world and it makes them an old, defeated man whether they are 40 or 60.  Except Jack Kennedy.  He didn't cave, so they had to shoot him.

Anagrammy

[fabucat]

I'm a HUGE John Titor fan.  From what I gather, this was a hoax cooked up by a couple of bored attorneys in Omaha.  But I LOVE the story.

[999]

The IBM 5100 was a great detail.

[anagrammy]

I am seeking theories of what happened in 2005 that made John Titor say that the U.S. civil war that "ruined everything" started then.   

Any ideas?

Anagrammy

[999]

I am seeking theories of what happened in 2005 that made John Titor say that the U.S. civil war that "ruined everything" started then.   

Any ideas?

Anagrammy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/109th_United_States_Congress


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina


https://www.eff.org/press/releases/archives

[anagrammy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/109th_United_States_Congress


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina


https://www.eff.org/press/releases/archives

Thanks, 999.  That is definitely food for thought.  Katrina was like 9/11 in a way.  Anyone who still had a John Wayne view of America could not help but be shocked seeing the helicopter shots of Katrina and all those people dying in the Dome.  Inside our own country.  Foreign aid, anyone?

Anagrammy

[cwarner]

What was so compelling about the John Titor story is when I stumbled across it (I think in 2003 or so?) he had enough dings or near dings with his predictions (and that IBM 5100 thing was excellent) to really feed into my imagination and I found myself seriously considering whether there could be some truth his story. Then as the political climate continued to worsen, his civil prediction gained plausibility, even if it was still a huge reach.

Whoever it was, they must've been fairly intelligent and well-informed enough to make their story line up with reality as well as it did. Not unlike Bob Lazar.

[999]

I'm a sucker for Bob Lazar too. Sometimes I'll think, you know the powers that be COULD have changed his educational records etc, LOL...