John Titor

[John Thomas]

Agent Orange,
With all the questions you're asking me it is almost as if you want to build a device.
You're going to need a Tesla/Brown anti-gravity field to suspend the black holes.
It's currently only used in classified aircraft.
The history viewer has already been partially invented and is classified by the military.
It is obviously not developed enough to solve crimes yet.

In the future, we fully understand what Tesla was trying to say in his Unified Field Theory. CERN proves it. T. Townsend Brown's theories have been proven already but classified -- all of it. That is why hardly anybody knows who he is.

People from this time line probably won't like me for these reasons.
1.) I'm a Social Democrat and Unionist. I believe in national health care and retirement.
2.) I'm a Gnostic Christian. That means that I believe in Jesus but my view of Jesus is contrary to modern views. We gathered evidence that the primary Jesus was a guy who accompanied Emperor Titus in conquering his world. This guy was called Apollonius, a doctor, scientist, spiritual Pagan, sun worshiper. We combine this with First Nation spiritual belief and practices.
3.) I'm rather self-righteous and impatient. I'm damaged goods from military campaigns.
4.) I have a negative view of wealthy people in this time line.

I apologize in advance  for any insensitivity I may show.

Agent Orange, if you just go back and read Tesla/Brown you'll have all the answers you're asking me. Roddenberry's fictional world is something we are all working toward based on their findings and research based on their findings.

[John Thomas]

Very shortly, I will either be proven another hoax, or there is substance to what I have been saying.

I offered up a future news headline. I said that a surprise video would turn up about Amanda Knox. In the news, it was actually a surprise video on Casey Anthony. Since none of you got that, I'm just reporting it.

On another forum, I said that Moody's would downgrade U.S. credit and only Moody's. It turned out to be only S&P.

I also said that Ron Paul would win the Iowa Straw Poll. When he got second, the online publication that had that as a title retracted it. But a few readers found it before it disappeared.

I said that riots would happen in Michigan in October of 2011 and that they might give other states the idea to riot. This was a reference to Occupy Stuff.

Look at each of my predictions. They will all come true shortly.
Add 8 years -- the difference between the Gregorian and Julian Calendars to all previous predictions.
October 28th of this year -----------------------------
..cancelled Olympics 2004+8=2011
That places the U.S. Civil War II 2005+8=2013
World War III 2015+8=2023 Israel and Europe versus Islamic Union

[John Thomas]

Here are two specific time lines that all fans of John Titor should be aware of.

2013-2030
The U.S. floods on both coasts and the Mississippi.
The U.S. breaks up into 5 territories with 5 presidents.
John Titor is a member of the Midwestern Territory, a desert wasteland. Home of the former government administration and those who hope for a reformation of the Union.
The South is a white territory.
The North is a Canadian and International territory.
Texas is apart.
California is apart.
In 2023, 10 years after the breakup, many U.S. cities are suicide nuked by Islam Unionists.
Many European cities and Israel is nuked. Israel, the U.S. territories, and Europe nuke almost every Islamic city.

2041
John Titor is 74 years old and still in good shape.
This is that Star Trek age I've been talking about.
Time travel, warp engines, teleportation, solar system exploration, holodecks, food replicators.
Reunified U.S.
Unified and non-corrupt U.N.
End of Capitalism.
End of violent religions.
End of currency.
Robots will do repetitive work while we do research and exploration.
We're only less than 30 years from this.

[Agent : Orange]

I have terrible news, John.

I was recently contacted by my future self. A chronoportal opened in my living room, and an older, gray-sideburned version of me stepped through. Future:Orange told me that I will be the first scientist to unlock the secret of time travel. He (I?) said that the inspiration for the time travel device will come from a conversation on this very forum.

Immediately following this event, a second chronoportal opened and an identical duplicate of Future:Orange stepped through. He produced a derringer pistol from his waistband and emotionlessly shot the first Future:Orange in the head. This me said to ignore everything I may have just told myself and that he could only pray he made it to 2011 quickly enough. He dragged the limp body of the first Future:Orange back through the chronoportal with him and vanished.

I fear that you may have overstepped your bounds in describing your magnetic-tape model of spacetime. Your chronology may have been significantly and irreparably damaged by this development.

Tread carefully upon the ground of the past, my friend.

[Morgus]

everyone knows the true inventors of time travel were two scientists, Doug Phillips and Tony Newman, working at the top secret underground project 'The Time Tunnel' in the 1960s.

[Avi]

I have terrible news, John.

I was recently contacted by my future self. A chronoportal opened in my living room, and an older, gray-sideburned version of me stepped through. Future:Orange told me that I will be the first scientist to unlock the secret of time travel. He (I?) said that the inspiration for the time travel device will come from a conversation on this very forum.

Immediately following this event, a second chronoportal opened and an identical duplicate of Future:Orange stepped through. He produced a derringer pistol from his waistband and emotionlessly shot the first Future:Orange in the head. This me said to ignore everything I may have just told myself and that he could only pray he made it to 2011 quickly enough. He dragged the limp body of the first Future:Orange back through the chronoportal with him and vanished.

Youda man, Agent Orange. My past, present and future selves have all been laughing their assess off at your exchange. G'night, John-boy.

Well, maybe there's still hope for transparent aluminium.

[Flaxen Hegemony]

Youda man, Agent Orange. My past, present and future selves have all been laughing their assess off at your exchange. G'night, John-boy.

Well, maybe there's still hope for transparent aluminium.

You folks are having far too much fun in this thread.  John Thomas will soon join the legendary Fort Rock in the Coastgab troll trophy case.

[McPhallus]

Anyone else find it curious that a time-traveling super genius is hosting his Web site on Tripod in 2011?

That is correct. This universe is a clone of mine. That makes you all clones of the people in mine. It doesn't mean I'm superior. I'm also a clone of my future self.

[Avi]

You folks are having far too much fun in this thread.  John Thomas will soon join the legendary Fort Rock in the Coastgab troll trophy case.

Captain, there be whales here!

[John Thomas]

We didn't lose a skyscraper, we lost two.  Is that such a detail so trivial enough to be forgotten in a few decades?

But that is a typical Titor Prophecy. To get it mostly right but leave one part of it wrong.

[John Thomas]

What is this "Marshall Law" of which John Titor speaks? Is that like the Code of Hammurabi or Murphy's Law? You would think that a guy from the future would know that it's "martial law". Of course, this Marshall guy might be a future leader, for all I know. ;-)

I loved that anti-hero comic-book.

[John Thomas]

I have a question for those of you living in the U.S. today.
My father, my uncle and my two cousins all have concealed firearm licenses.
Do you all too? Has it gotten that scarey outside?

[Frys Girl]

I have a question for those of you living in the U.S. today.
My father, my uncle and my two cousins all have concealed firearm licenses.
Do you all too? Has it gotten that scarey outside?

It only takes one incident. I don't think you comprehend the concept of a conceal carry permit, so time travel is definitely hopeless.

[John Thomas]

It only takes one incident. I don't think you comprehend the concept of a conceal carry permit, so time travel is definitely hopeless.

I'm not against it. I just want to know how many here also have a permit.

[Evil Twin Of Zen]

Having achieved Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority two decades ago, I'm not sure why I still keep my C&C permit. 

[Frys Girl]

Having achieved Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority two decades ago, I'm not sure why I still keep my C&C permit. 

lol!!

[Jasoncox]

John Thomas - John Titor - Ren1999

I am curious to learn more and was hoping to talk in person or over the phone.
Is this possible? if not, why? After talking with the lawyer, it seems to me this
family behind the scenes doens't want to come out for the very reason I thought.
Great hoax? Truth? this is all shaping up for something good. I'd love to meet and
or chat anytime, anywhere. I'm in Vancouver and will be going to Las Vegas November.

[John Thomas]

Jason,
"John Thomas - John Titor - Ren1999"

Ren,
You can call me John or Ren.

Jason,
"I am curious to learn more and was hoping to talk in person or over the phone."

Ren,
You can ask anything you want here. I may or may not answer. I'll try to explain why I don't answer directly.

Jason,
"Is this possible? if not, why? After talking with the lawyer, it seems to me this
family behind the scenes doens't want to come out for the very reason I thought."

Ren,
Not possible for the same reasons. I'm from Seattle (edited to say most of my family is elsewhere). Please don't go looking for me. We can't talk on the phone either. It would be very subconsciously unnerving for you. I don't know why. Perhaps it is because you know deep down that don't belong here.

Jason,
"Great hoax? Truth? this is all shaping up for something good. I'd love to meet and
or chat anytime, anywhere. I'm in Vancouver and will be going to Las Vegas November."

Ren,
Don't go with the Alas Babylon plot. Russia isn't going to attack us. In 2000, people didn't think Russia would attack us either.

[John Thomas]

Oh? Could this be the revelation?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=228x83915

"Sher also mentions a third option: that the measurement is correct. Some theories posit that there are extra, hidden dimensions beyond the familiar four (three of space, one of time). It's possible that the speedy neutrinos tunnel through these extra dimensions, reducing the distance they have to travel to get to the target. This would explain the measurement without requiring the speed of light to be broken."

If followed to a conclusion, warp engines, teleportation and time travel don't seem so far-fetched.

[John Thomas]

Jason, here are some notes that I have added to the original dictated story. These notes are more open as there is virtually nothing any of us can do to change anything now.

World War 3 will happen in 2015+8=2023
Israel finds itself 'unfriended' and isolated. Turkey and Pakistan become more aggressive and start to lead an Islamic pride and unification movement. They become wealthier after having slung-off their tax eating tyrants. India, Europe and Israel are attacked. Nukes are launched. Many cities are destroyed. The entire Middle East is destroyed. Israel is destroyed. This is what is called Armageddon.

The U.S. becomes a farming culture because we are all reduced to farming the land for lack of jobs. Life is centered around being outdoors more with our families. But that isn't to say that I won't be outdoors on my computer reading old comics and magazines.

The ice caps are melting too rapidly. We'll be living in a very hot world soon.

There is less pollution in the near future.

We decided to build a high speed rail like the one in Japan. Bipedal robots play a greater role in factories and basic chores. They are starting to assist more with farming. We enjoy doing the cooking and childcare on our own.

The post office is more like a package service. We use a redundant modular internet network. We can use the internet deep in the woods. We also have portable crank and solar power generators. Good ones. There is an endless supply of energy we can get but I won't go into the details of it. Anyone deep in the woods can have enough power to run a fully automated home.

The Civil War II starts in 2005+8=2013. Obama is the Lincoln President. That is a clue.
There is a communist revolution in the U.S. I'm more partial to a socialist government. But that is what happens when the economy and law and order break down. Wealthy people are stripped of their wealth. This is mostly a bloodless conflict. Secession breaks us up into 5 areas. The central government moved to the center of the U.S. because of flooding and because of the breakup. I support this government.

During this short time, everyone is drafted into the military in their territory. Even kids.

We are suicide nuked by Islamists because we outlaw Islam in the U.S. We stated that no religions that promote violence must continue to promote it. That included Christianity. People become more Gnostic, New Age, and Pagan at this time. They begin to explore First Nation beliefs and start to identify themselves as now natives. Jesus becomes just a man, a scientist, a doctor called Apollonius who along with Emperor Titus creates the religion of Christianity. The idea is that they created the Pax Romana. We use this idea to try to rally sentiment for the reunification of the U.S. One God, One President, One Land. A New socialist Pax Americana.

Hydrogen Bio-fuel in a much safer form is developed. The Japanese made it from rice husks.

In an age where there are more robots and fewer jobs, many people return to the Universities to just have fun and learn at any age. They also get rewarded for their research. The Universities become major cultural centers in my time.

Medicine continues to advance but because the U.S. declines economically during the Civil War II years, delivery of medicine becomes appalling.

The New U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits banks from gambling with our savings. It also outlaws wealth above a certain figure. Civil, worker, victim, privacy rights are specifically worded. Money is used less these days but wages always meet the cost of living. Social health insurance is finally had by all. It's the law.

I have observed electronic voter fraud in the U.S. The 2000 election where Katherine Harris was the only one allowed to vote was shameful. The 2004 election where Ohio was stolen by a man later murdered was the worst. 2012 will astonish you..

My first experience with war was in Germany. A man shot a shotgun at our facility.

On the Machine
When the machine is on a separate bubble of space time is generated in front of me around a black hole singularity. I see my reflection in it and then I become conscious within the bubble seeing myself and my universe outside. I'm a clone and my universe and my machine is a clone. I know that I am not the original. I am not 1. I am 0 -- not real. This bubble becomes saucer shaped as I begin to travel about within time and space. My machine can not only travel great distances, but also travel forward and backward in time by  rewinding and fast forwarding the universe outside my dish. This is possible by exposing another singularity within the saucer. This machine has a clock like the one in H. G. Wells' novel. Turning back the clock sends me back. Turning forward the clock sends me forward. Simple. Electromagnetic gravity, space and time becomes warped. Teleportation, warp propulsion and time-travel are part of the same principle. For the most part, time-travel is excluded by engineers who plan to use this technology someday to send us to habitable planets.

[Jasoncox]

Thanks for keeping in contact one way or another.
May i ask about Canada and more specific B.C. in the future?
If none of the predictions come to pass that you have mentioned does this mean
the future can be changed?
If the predictions are true than I guess 2011 - 2013 is going to be a very busy time.
Power available to us even in the deep woods. Amazing!
2012 has had a a lot of mystic behind it, doom and gloom, a new awarness. What
happens Dec.21 2012?
I have been conditioned for quite some time regarding many unusual ideas, concepts and otherwise
my whole life from a source I can't talk about. Can you reconsider discussing in another way?
If you are real I appreciate you and what you have done thus far to connect with people in the present.
What is the main reason for this?
It would be very subconsciously unnerving for you. I don't know why. Perhaps it is because you know deep down that don't belong here. I don't understand this?

All the best and i look ofrward to hearing from you again............one of the best things I have learned about

[M Knight]

The U.S. becomes a farming culture because we are all reduced to farming the land for lack of jobs.

... and there are an unlimited number of rickshaw pulling jobs for young Americans serving rich Chinese tourists.   

[John Thomas]

Jason,
"May i ask about Canada and more specific B.C. in the future?"

Ren,
Canada and Greenland become somewhat of a promised land. Canadian cities are not nuked. The weather becomes warmer so it becomes habitable way up north. Many Americans will cross the border into Canada despite any fence. Much of the U.S. is tropical and flooded. People will not hunt the wildlife to extinction. That is one of the benefits of a popular First American belief system.

"If none of the predictions come to pass that you have mentioned does this mean
the future can be changed?"

All of the earth changes predictions will happen as said. People can't change nature. The flooding has already started. So have the eruptions and earthquakes. The poles will shift. It will get hotter. For several 1000 years.

Jason,
"If the predictions are true than I guess 2011 - 2013 is going to be a very busy time."

Ren,
I'm amazed at the negative comments about the Occupy Wall Street movement. These people don't understand that this is the beginning of an attack on the rich. Not corporations. Not banks. Not brokers. The rich. The rich are in mortal danger and they don't realize it. If I was rich, I'd be moving to my French castle getaway right about now.

Jason,
"Power available to us even in the deep woods. Amazing!"

Ren,
Only a few years. My message isn't all doom. We'll have great advances in medicine, robotics and energy in the next 2 or 3 years. This is because our power to compute and communicate around the world has lead to an environment of discovery.

Jason,
"2012 has had a a lot of mystic behind it, doom and gloom, a new awarness. What
happens Dec.21 2012?"

Ren,
October 28th 2011. We don't have to live in a world of civil wars and world wars. We can change this now! But people have got to start caring about the underemployed and unemployed. We've got to provide national health insurance. Jobs that pay fairly. Hire everyone who wants to work. If we don't do this by next year.. Civil War..

It is important for you to wrap up your story and start filming it now. You have very little time left, Jason.

[John Thomas]

... and there are an unlimited number of rickshaw pulling jobs for young Americans serving rich Chinese tourists. 

The Chinese will be furious with us when all the jobs go back to the U.S. because of labor campaigns. Buy American. High Tariffs Now. Unionize. Fair Pay for a Full Day.

[Frys Girl]

The Chinese will be furious with us when all the jobs go back to the U.S. because of labor campaigns. Buy American. High Tariffs Now. Unionize. Fair Pay for a Full Day.

You should call George Noory and tell him you posted this information on CoastGab.com.

[John Thomas]

This stealth UAV is called the X-47B. I've seen these aircraft in my unit. I've also seen what I believe to be similar looking aircraft from our far future. I have met a man and his son from our far future. I have also met a person I believe to be half-human. Now that would be an interesting addition to your story, Jason. Interested?

[John Thomas]

You should call George Noory and tell him you posted this information on CoastGab.com.

Call George here or I'll agree to post to the show and answer his questions. I'll field questions from Art Bell himself. I have already sent 2 emails, one to George directly, and one to a Coast 2 Coast staffer informing them that I was posting on a few popular forums.

[Frys Girl]

Call George here or I'll agree to post to the show and answer his questions. I'll field questions from Art Bell himself. I have already sent 2 emails, one to George directly, and one to a Coast 2 Coast staffer informing them that I was posting on a few popular forums.

Please don't contact Art. You'll ruin the chances of his coming on. He'll totally change his mind about doing any kind of broadcast. Please just stick to contacting George Noory.

[heater]

I was wondering Mr. Thomas, is this you?


John Thomas


By the way the record will show that in truth I am the real John Titor as seen in these posts from:


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,1457.msg17828.html#msg17828


http://www.coastgab.com/index.php/topic,1695.msg22725.html#msg22725


I rest my case.

[Jasoncox]

John, you make this very interesting. I've been working on this script for a few months now
I've tweaked it enough to hopefully not worry about infringing upon the lawyer and family
involved. I've actually kept in line with some of the predictions you mentioned as they align with whats going on
anyway. Really too bad we can't meet or chat personally. Pretty amazing times these days and the writing
on the wall has been there for sometime. Should be finished in a few weeks from now. Love to share it with
you but I wouldn't be able to on this forum of course. Hope to see you in canada where its safe. lol