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John Titor

Started by Ruteger, June 21, 2009, 07:35:38 AM

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Frys Girl

Looks like I missed out on some good stuff in here. Gotta catch up.

fysisist

Time travel guy, some stock tips, PLEASE!

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 04:53:37 AM
Yes. I'm saying that matter can travel faster than the speed of light. This has a lot to do with the principle of time travel. CERN will prove this and then get funding for some new equipment.

The new equipment will usher in a new age of Star Trek technology. Gene Roddenberry was visited by a guy named J.R. -- a member one of the projects. Gene was working with Navel Intelligence at the time.

From what I understand, Gene worked a lot with navel intelligence.  Can't say I blame him.


Jasoncox

Ren1999 I am glad you have chosen to reach out to me. I have been a fan of Coast to Coast for
sometime and a big fan of this the John Titor story.  I am a filmmaker from Vancouver B.C. Canada
and was interested in bringing this story to the big screen. I have read everything I could about this
online and was hoping for anything else I could hear and learn. If Ren1999 is John Titor why come out now?
From what I understand John Titor had broken off contact for quite some time. I have tried to contact the lawyer for the family of John titor and have but when asking to go further in research for the screenplay I need to purchase the rights. I can't do this without knowing if the family  (or person) has just made all of this up. Time Travel may be possible I believe this and the screenplay I have started anyway is shaping up very nicely. Can I hear about anymore stories? How long are you around? A lot of the things that were supposed to happen either haven't or behind schedule for whatever reason that you had predicted. I assume its because you had mentioned that we can change the future? Is there an organization looking for you within the government? Just the peak of the iceberg in what I would like to chat with you about.

Morgus

Quote from: Jasoncox on October 10, 2011, 12:30:15 PMFrom what I understand John Titor had broken off contact for quite some time.
yes that because John Titor claimed in his final posts about 10 years ago he was returning to his own time (2036) then and never return.
so no further contact should be expected.
anyone claiming to do so is obviously a fake since it would violate Titor's earlier posts...  8)

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 05:19:17 AM
I'm a specialist in cryptology, hardware, software, networking, political science and interrogation.
Excellent. Since you are a specialist in hardware and you said earlier that CERN will be granted new equipment from proving the OPERA results, you should be in a unique position to give us details about this equipment and when confirmation of OPERA results occurs.

This also means you should be able to provide some examples of the "star trek" technology you mention earlier. What does the significance of faster than light neutrinos have on transportation, computer technology and energy generation?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 05:19:17 AM
I'm not a scientist and I didn't invent or patent a time traveling device. I was issued this device. I was briefed on the general principles of how it works. I know that when matter travels faster than the speed of light, it is not restricted to the limitations of time and space and things that travel the speed of light.
How common are these machines in your time? Because I expect that a device powerful enough to twist spacetime into knots would be quite expensive. If you were issued this device I find it suspicious that you would only be briefed on the general operation of it without being given so much as a user manual that explains the principles behind the machines operation.

In our present (your past), long haul truck drivers not only drive their rigs, they know the ins and outs of maintenance of their vehicle as well. If something goes wrong with their truck they can pull over and make the required repairs or at least determine the issue that needs to be serviced. Time travel goes quite a ways beyond this since you are making a much more dangerous trip in a complicated device. What happens if something goes wrong with your vehicle in the past or on your way there? Who was it that "issued" you your device? Can you post some pictures of it?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 05:19:17 AM
I'm not a scientist and I didn't invent or patent a time traveling device. I was issued this device. I was briefed on the general principles of how it works. I know that when matter travels faster than the speed of light, it is not restricted to the limitations of time and space and things that travel the speed of light.

I understand that you are not a scientist, but I would like to ask a few more questions about this carrot that you're dangling in front of us. Let's have some details about what you're talking about here. You say that when matter travels faster than the speed of light time somehow loses meaning. What is the significance of this for humans? It sounds like you are saying that a time travel machine must be able to move faster than the speed of light in order to time travel. Please explain carefully what you mean by this. How do you accelerate to that speed without being killed by G forces? What kind of propellant does your engine use? Time travel by means of motion through space seems inefficient and counter intuitive for an occupant of the past like me. If the passage of time slows as material objects travel ever closer to the speed of light, how is it possible to overcome that speed limit since the rate of time passage at exactly c should be zero? These should be simple questions for one who has been issued a time manipulation device and used it to travel into their past.

Furthermore since you are an expert with hardware, you must also have a rudimentary grasp of the basics of electricity and magnetism, correct?

beachcomber

JT -
Physicists are clear when they say the mechanics of subatomic particles cannot be applied to matter (in the macro / physical world).
If you know different you can summarize how that's changed. Right?


Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 04:53:37 AM
Yes. I'm saying that matter can travel faster than the speed of light. This has a lot to do with the principle of time travel. CERN will prove this and then get funding for some new equipment.

The new equipment will usher in a new age of Star Trek technology. Gene Roddenberry was visited by a guy named J.R. -- a member one of the projects. Gene was working with Navel Intelligence at the time.



John Thomas

Jason,
"Ren1999 I am glad you have chosen to reach out to me. I have been a fan of Coast to Coast for
sometime and a big fan of this the John Titor story.  I am a filmmaker from Vancouver B.C. Canada
and was interested in bringing this story to the big screen."

Ren,
I have been waiting for you -- Jason.

"I have read everything I could about this online and was hoping for anything else I could hear and learn. If Ren1999 is John Titor why come out now?"

Please look at my sources. GodLikeProductions, AboveTopSecret, Paranormalis, and now CoastGab.
Also look at Digg.Com where most of my warnings and convincing can be found.
My call-signs are ren1999, Jon Thomas, John Thomas and John Titor.
You have my permission to use any and all of my material online, but you'll have to go to the owner of the website and the lawyer for use of the name. They've endured a lot of harassment for me.

Jason,
"From what I understand John Titor had broken off contact for quite some time. I have tried to contact the lawyer for the family of John titor and have but when asking to go further in research for the screenplay I need to purchase the rights. I can't do this without knowing if the family  (or person) has just made all of this up. Time Travel may be possible I believe this and the"

Ren,
You can't verify that I'm a time traveler but you can verify if my predictions are correct. Two things are mentioned by the original Titors. 1.) There is more than one Titor. 2.) They have been waiting for the Primary Titor to show.

Jason,
"screenplay I have started anyway is shaping up very nicely. Can I hear about anymore stories? How long are you around? A lot of the things that were supposed to happen either haven't or behind schedule for whatever reason that you had predicted. I assume its because you had mentioned that we can change the future?"

Ren,
I'm from this time line. I'm not going anywhere. My future self has come to us.

Add 8 years to all the original dates.
Gregorian versus Julian Calendars
2004-8=2012 Olympics cancelled. Terror? Riots? Natural Disasters? All 3.
2005+8=2013 U.S. Civil War 2
2015+8=2023 World War 3

Jason,
"Is there an organization looking for you within the government? Just the peak of the iceberg in what I would like to chat with you about."

In the near future, I am a part of what is left of the Federal Government. I am U.S. Army Intelligence. We are in what is called the Wasteland -- a dry dust bowl in the center of what was the U.S. Everyone, even children are in the military. We are living a military socialist life. So are all the other territories. I have much more to say. Ask away.

John Thomas

"Excellent. Since you are a specialist in hardware and you said earlier that CERN will be granted new equipment from proving the OPERA results, you should be in a unique position to give us details about this equipment and when confirmation of OPERA results occurs."

I love your avatar! Superman drunk! I'll try. CERN wants to build a build  a bigger mouse trap. But they can do what they need to do with just a few brilliant ideas and modifications.

"This also means you should be able to provide some examples of the "star trek" technology you mention earlier. What does the significance of faster than light neutrinos have on transportation, computer technology and energy generation?"

Fast forward and rewind is faster than normal video play. That is how this relates.
Energy generation. From light and air.

"How common are these machines in your time? Because I expect that a device powerful enough to twist spacetime into knots would be quite expensive. If you were issued this device I find it suspicious that you would only be briefed on the general operation of it without being given so much as a user manual that explains the principles behind the machines operation."

Expensive. These devices become more common as the years progress. But they are dangerous in the early stages. You can be ripped apart. It's like getting into a roller-coaster with a lose seat-belt. In the far future, both teleportation and time-travel functions become integrated.

"In our present (your past), long haul truck drivers not only drive their rigs, they know the ins and outs of maintenance of their vehicle as well. If something goes wrong with their truck they can pull over and make the required repairs or at least determine the issue that needs to be serviced."

I couldn't fix this thing. If it breaks, I'm stuck. But it doesn't matter. It just means I won't be able to reintegrate with my future self to deliver the information completely. My records could still be found on the Internet.

"Time travel goes quite a ways beyond this since you are making a much more dangerous trip in a complicated device. What happens if something goes wrong with your vehicle in the past or on your way there? Who was it that "issued" you your device? Can you post some pictures of it?"

The vehicles were just for the purposes of hauling heavy equipment. The time travel device is the size of a camcorder. It functions in a very similar way.

The standing U.S. Army issued this to me. I can not post pictures. The original pictures were faked in order to generate interest in the story. I did not do the faking. But they were important. People subconsciously know there is something to this story.

John Thomas

Quote from: Agent : Orange on October 10, 2011, 02:17:19 PM
basics of electricity and magnetism, correct?

Time travel and time travel devices are quite simple when you consider this.
A picture is a time travel device. It allows you to see in the past without going there.
A video is an improved device.
What I've got, I can not only project my cloned self into the picture/video/past, but I can also interact.

I have changed previous descriptions of the device here.
The device exposes an intensely heavy massive marble black hole.
Matter around it swirls faster than light.
This creates a separate bubble of space and time.
My reflection within the bubble becomes my living clone.
That clone then uses the device to expose another black hole.
That black hole clones the universe.
This cloned universe as a copy becomes safe to edit.
The original universe is untouched and pristine.
But when my clone changes the clone universe,
this creates ripples in time space that influence the pristine universe we are in now.
When the job is finished. My clone returns to reintegrate itself with me. It dies. I have its memories.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
CERN wants to build a build  a bigger mouse trap. But they can do what they need to do with just a few brilliant ideas and modifications.
Explain yourself please. What modifications will they make? What kind of equipment do they need and when will they get it? Your "answer" only raises more questions.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
Fast forward and rewind is faster than normal video play. That is how this relates.
Energy generation. From light and air.
Again, your answers are vague and do not specify much of anything. Spacetime is not magnetic tape so I do fail to see how this analogy relates to the questions at hand. You have also avoided some of the other more practical questions - what does your time machine run on? And how do you avoid being killed when it accelerates to speed as you seemed to imply about the device?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
Expensive. These devices become more common as the years progress. But they are dangerous in the early stages. You can be ripped apart. It's like getting into a roller-coaster with a lose seat-belt. In the far future, both teleportation and time-travel functions become integrated.
Please explain yourself more clearly. How can you be ripped apart? You also seem to imply that your device can travel forward and backward in time.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
I couldn't fix this thing. If it breaks, I'm stuck. But it doesn't matter. It just means I won't be able to reintegrate with my future self to deliver the information completely. My records could still be found on the Internet.
What do you mean, "reintegrate" with your future self? Can you tell us a bit about that? Since you are typing this on the internet you must have travelled back to the '10s physically. How can this be if you are somehow recombined when you get back?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
The vehicles were just for the purposes of hauling heavy equipment. The time travel device is the size of a camcorder. It functions in a very similar way.

The standing U.S. Army issued this to me. I can not post pictures. The original pictures were faked in order to generate interest in the story. I did not do the faking. But they were important. People subconsciously know there is something to this story.

How are such speeds generated by a camcorder sized object? Do you hold onto it? Wear it on your back? Or what? If it's that size why can't you post pictures?

Surely you can see how some people may be skeptical of your claims when you make statements like that admit fakery to attract interest to your story.

Also please respond, if you are a hardware expert you must also have a good understanding of the laws of electricity and magnetism right?

John Thomas

Quote from: beachcomber on October 10, 2011, 05:07:40 PM
JT -
Physicists are clear when they say the mechanics of subatomic particles cannot be applied to matter (in the macro / physical world).
If you know different you can summarize how that's changed. Right?

You mean that neutrinos do not behave the way light behaves? Of course.
Light is both a particle and a wave at the same time.
What particle?
The Unified Field Theory as explained by Tesla and T. T. Brown. It is time we all do a search on that.
Space and time is composed of particles smaller.

Avi

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 05:51:05 PM
a.k.-->c.a.


Hmm. Alaska implies California? Well, they are both on the west coast. But my issue with the speed of light claims is this well-known equation: E=mc2. Personally, no matter the effects on time, I would not like to accelerate my mass to the speed of light, not without some extensively greater detail on how you've, uh, done it safely. Practice safe relativity and all that.

So, does 'John Thomas' mean in the future what it does today? I mean, it's English slang for penis, now.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
Time travel and time travel devices are quite simple when you consider this.
A picture is a time travel device. It allows you to see in the past without going there.
A video is an improved device.
What I've got, I can not only project my cloned self into the picture/video/past, but I can also interact.
How does the cloning process work?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
I have changed previous descriptions of the device here.
Changed previous descriptions? What do you mean?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
The device exposes an intensely heavy massive marble black hole.
You generate this black hole? If it is "intensely heavy" and small (I assume that's what "marble" means in this context) how is it not dissipated quickly by Hawking radiation?  Also how is it that the black hole can be the size of a marble when a teaspoon of degenerate neutron matter weighs more than a mountain? How does all that fit in a space the size of a camcorder? How can you carry it around?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
Matter around it swirls faster than light.
What kind of matter do you use?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
This creates a separate bubble of space and time.
My reflection within the bubble becomes my living clone.
That clone then uses the device to expose another black hole.
That black hole clones the universe.
This cloned universe as a copy becomes safe to edit.
The original universe is untouched and pristine.
But when my clone changes the clone universe,
this creates ripples in time space that influence the pristine universe we are in now.
When the job is finished. My clone returns to reintegrate itself with me. It dies. I have its memories.
Can you give up any more than that? It would be nice to have a bit more detailed description. I still have many questions about the time travel process.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:39:40 PM
You mean that neutrinos do not behave the way light behaves? Of course.
Light is both a particle and a wave at the same time.
So are neutrinos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave
deBroglie's relations between wavelength and momentum were described in 1924 and electron crystallography was successfully verified at Bell labs in 27. Today matter waves are well known from Schrodinger's pioneering work in quantum mechanics which describes these matter waves with probabilistic language in the Schrodinger wave equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation). Schroedinger used de Broglie's results to predict the spectrum of the hydrogen atom using matter waves. So I do not understand your statement that neutrinos and light behave differently because light is both particle and wave. Neutrinos are like that too. All matter is. It has to be or else Schroedinger's calculations would not reflect reality.



Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:39:40 PM
What particle?
The Unified Field Theory as explained by Tesla and T. T. Brown. It is time we all do a search on that.
You're the expert. Give us a first hand education on the theory.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:39:40 PM
Space and time is composed of particles smaller.
Smaller than what? How do you quantify the size of a wave?

John Thomas

"Again, your answers are vague and do not specify much of anything."

Yes. I apologize. I am often told that I am being vague.

"Spacetime is not magnetic tape"

Ah! But magnetic tape captures space time!

"so I do fail to see how this analogy relates to the questions at hand."

A picture and a video is a time travel device. Some day, people will develop the next big thing. Every historical event emits energy which is then trapped in trees, buildings, or travels out somewhere into the universe. We'll develop a device that can view history. Then we'll make it a virtual view.

"You have also avoided some of the other more practical questions - what does your time machine run on? And how do you avoid being killed when it accelerates to speed as you seemed to imply about the device?"

l can't tell you somethings. ..can't. I risk my life every time this device is used.

"Please explain yourself more clearly. How can you be ripped apart? You also seem to imply that your device can travel forward and backward in time."

Yes. So why didn't we go into the future to solve many of our problems in the 2030s? It would violate the Prime Directive. We didn't earn that technology. We don't deserve it. Bad things happen when stuff is given to you from an advanced civilization.

"How are such speeds generated by a camcorder sized object? Do you hold onto it? Wear it on your back? Or what? If it's that size why can't you post pictures?"

The small black hole generates the speeds. You hold it like a cam very steady.

"Surely you can see how some people may be skeptical of your claims when you make statements like that admit fakery to attract interest to your story."

I'm counting on it. I'm only here to warn about stuff. I'm not here to change it myself.

"Also please respond, if you are a hardware expert you must also have a good understanding of laws of electricity and magnetism right?"

Computer hardware.

John Thomas

Einstein really said that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light?

John Thomas is slang and I think my parents had a shocking sense of humor. That or they just didn't know. They say they didn't know.

John Thomas

Very good questions, Agent Orange!
Excellent.
Reread what I've given you and work things out.
I'll be back here later.

Frys Girl

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 07:01:21 PM
Very good questions, Agent Orange!
Excellent.
Reread what I've given you and work things out.
I'll be back here later.
Translation: bullshitting has made me hungry. Burrito time.

Avi

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:57:45 PM
Einstein really said that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light?

Not exactly. He defined a relationship between matter and energy, and what happens to that relationship at the speed of light. It's kind of a bugaboo.


Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:53:59 PM
Ah! But magnetic tape captures space time!
Magnetic tape records magnetic signals recorded on it by a write head. That's all. A picture or videotape does not include curvature information. These methods of recording capture an approximate two dimensional representation of a three dimensional scene using a charge coupled device (CCD with our primitive digital technology) - and not even very well in most cases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_spread_function). The spacetime of general relativity is a four dimensional entity, which only mathematics can properly describe.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:53:59 PM
A picture and a video is a time travel device. Some day, people will develop the next big thing. Every historical event emits energy which is then trapped in trees, buildings, or travels out somewhere into the universe. We'll develop a device that can view history. Then we'll make it a virtual view.
Care to describe this energy? Do you know about the second law of thermodynamics? What does that mean to you? How can you recover electromagnetic signals which transfer heat to their environment?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:53:59 PM
l can't tell you somethings. ..can't. I risk my life every time this device is used.
Unfortunate.

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:53:59 PM
Yes. So why didn't we go into the future to solve many of our problems in the 2030s? It would violate the Prime Directive. We didn't earn that technology. We don't deserve it. Bad things happen when stuff is given to you from an advanced civilization.
It strikes me that when time travel is invented the limitations of time no longer have any meaning. The future and past are your playground. Why the arbitrary distinction if your technology allows travel to the future?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:53:59 PM
The small black hole generates the speeds. You hold it like a cam very steady.
How do you hold it at all?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:53:59 PM
Computer hardware.
What kind of computer hardware?

Quote from: John Thomas on October 10, 2011, 06:57:45 PM
Einstein really said that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light?

No, he said no signal can carry information faster than the speed of light through spacetime. He also said that no material object can ever travel at the speed of light by necessity.

Which is why I'm interested in what you can tell me about electricity and magnetism.

Quote from: Frys Girl on October 10, 2011, 07:02:41 PM
Translation: bullshitting has made me hungry. Burrito time.
Frys Girl, I must remember not to be drinking any liquid when reading your posts.  8)

BSing is correct. The comments posted here are not remotely similar to original ones by the person or persons known as John Titor. You would think that the poster would have at least used Titors own terms and details of the device claimed to be used for time travel.

The Titor hoax has been exposed for many years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

Centurion40

Quote from: anagrammy on July 09, 2011, 11:22:18 PM
FAXES From John Titor to Art Bell 2007:


... time itself can be understood in terms of connected lines. When you go back in time you travel on your original time line when you turn the singularity engine off a new time line is created due to the fact that you and your time machine are now there.

In other words a new universe is created. To get back to your original line you must travel a split second farther back and immediately throw the engine into forward without turning it off.


Then, according to this logic, our universe was created when John Titor arrived here from his original universe.  So our universe is a clone of his universe, and relatively young.

Who'd a thunk it?

John Thomas

Quote from: Centurion40 on October 11, 2011, 06:21:18 AM
Then, according to this logic, our universe was created when John Titor arrived here from his original universe.  So our universe is a clone of his universe, and relatively young.

Who'd a thunk it?

That is correct. This universe is a clone of mine. That makes you all clones of the people in mine. It doesn't mean I'm superior. I'm also a clone of my future self.

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